CNN poll asks “who’s the better president”: Obama 47, Bush 45

posted at 4:14 pm on October 8, 2010 by Allahpundit

What they’re really measuring, of course, is which one’s the worst president. It’s still G-Dub — by a hair.

By 47 to 45 percent, Americans say Obama is a better president than George W. Bush. But that two point margin is down from a 23 point advantage one year ago.

“Democrats may want to think twice about bringing up former President George W. Bush’s name while campaigning this year,” says CNN Polling Director Keating Holland.

“But that doesn’t mean that Americans regret their decision to put Obama in the White House in 2008. By a 50 to 42 percent margin, the public says that Obama has done a better job than Sen. John McCain would have done if he had won. And by a 10-point margin, Americans also say that Joe Biden has done a better job than Sarah Palin would have done as vice president,” adds Holland.

Is the lesson from this poll really that Dems should think twice before bringing up Bush? The most amazing thing about it is that, after more than a year and a half of economic misery and trillion-dollar health-care boondoggles and giant oil spills and slow going in Afghanistan, The One is still (barely) preferable to Dubya. The sour aftertaste of the Bush era lingers on even after devouring a big Hopenchange shinola sandwich, and no one — including tea partiers who grumble about Bush’s big-spending ways — is doing much to try to change that. The determining factors here, I think, are that Obama’s still not even halfway through his first term and did, after all, come into office after the financial crisis was already in full swing. To wit, this Marist poll out today finds that only 33 percent say current economic conditions are due to his policies compared to 61 percent who say he inherited them. The public’s fully prepared to render a verdict on Democratic control of government next month but they’re not quite ready yet to render a verdict on The One himself, which is why we also get this fantastically depressing tidbit from Marist:

Despite the president’s 43% approval rating, a majority of voters — 51% — think the president’s approach will eventually solve the problems facing the nation. But, he needs more time. 45% report Mr. Obama’s approach will not solve the nation’s problems. Four percent are unsure.

Not surprisingly, there is a partisan divide on this question as well. 81% of Democrats think the president’s approach needs more time while 15% say his efforts will be futile. On the other hand, 76% of Republicans think the president’s approach will not fix America’s problems compared with 20% who say patience is in order. A majority of independent voters — 54% — report the president’s approach will not fix the problems facing the nation while 42% think they will in time.

Even 20 percent of the GOP — let’s call them, oh, I don’t know, “Charlie Crist Republicans” — aren’t ready to write Obama off just yet. But give ‘em time: I suspect that 51 percent figure is down from something like 70 percent at around the time of the inauguration, which if true would mean he’s shedding around a point per month. If unemployment doesn’t inch down next year, you can imagine where his numbers will be come election time 2012.

Elsewhere in the CNN poll, the GOP leads 52/45 on the generic ballot and by two to one among independents. Prepare for utter destruction three and a half weeks from now. Exit question: Why does Bush rate higher than McCain or Palin in the poll given that he ended his term less popular than either of them? Is he benefiting a bit from the presidential aura, or is it simply that people are more likely to think of him when they remember better economic times a few years ago? Or is it the fact that he’s handled himself so well over the past 20 months? Quote: “I loved being your president. But frankly, I’m having the time of my life not being your president. I do not miss the limelight. I have zero desire to be in the press. I have zero desire to be on your TV screens. Eight years is enough of that.”

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LOL LOL LOL – This just made my weekend !!!

brewcrew67 on October 8, 2010 at 4:16 PM

How quickly the mighty fall…

right2bright on October 8, 2010 at 4:17 PM

This racist poll is treating Obama like a dog…

right2bright on October 8, 2010 at 4:17 PM

And that’s from all democrats…..

Haunches on October 8, 2010 at 4:20 PM

Man, the spin sure doesn’t stop there!

Fuzzlenutter on October 8, 2010 at 4:20 PM

I guess their time has expired on Blame Bush. Now they are left with no ideas and no one to blame for their failures.

WoosterOh on October 8, 2010 at 4:21 PM

WoosterOh on October 8, 2010 at 4:21 PM

The new meme will be “He’s just as good as our last president.”

CurtZHP on October 8, 2010 at 4:25 PM

Quote: “I loved being your president. But frankly, I’m having the time of my life not being your president. I do not miss the limelight. I have zero desire to be in the press. I have zero desire to be on your TV screens. Eight years is enough of that.”

I heart him.

terryannonline on October 8, 2010 at 4:26 PM

81% of Democrats think the president’s approach needs more time while 15% say his efforts will be futile. On the other hand, 76% of Republicans think the president’s approach will not fix America’s problems compared with 20% who say patience is in order. A majority of independent voters — 54% — report the president’s approach will not fix the problems facing the nation while 42% think they will in time.

Run those numbers. Based on an equal distribution,

D 81 15
R 20 76
I 42 54

gives you 143 who think he needs time, and 145 who think he cannot fix the problem – which gives the opposite result. How was this weighted?

Vashta.Nerada on October 8, 2010 at 4:27 PM

Sidebar: Bush gave a rare speech last night in Mobile.

Highlights:

“I loved being your president. But frankly, I’m having the time of my life not being your president,” he said. “I do not miss the limelight. I have zero desire to be in the press. I have zero desire to be on your TV screens. Eight years is enough of that.”

And on his silence since leaving office:

“You’re not going to see me out opining or offering my critique,” he said. “Frankly, I don’t think it’s good for the country to have a former president criticize his successor.”

The rest here: Bush and his experiences/book.

SteveMG on October 8, 2010 at 4:27 PM

Waiting to see some new Obama vs Basil Marceaux numbers, think that race will continue to tighten

Raisedbywolves on October 8, 2010 at 4:27 PM

I grew tired of Bush’s spend thrift ways, but man at least he loves his country. I’d take 3 more terms of Slick Willy over this Clown Named Barry.

search4truth on October 8, 2010 at 4:27 PM

Sorry, I missed the link in the post.

SteveMG on October 8, 2010 at 4:28 PM

W gave a speech in Alabama last night; once again displaying pure class. I miss him!

“You’re not going to see me out opining or offering my critique,” he said. “Frankly, I don’t think it’s good for the country to have a former president criticize his successor.”

Read the whole article it’s great!

Brat on October 8, 2010 at 4:28 PM

Why does Bush rate higher than McCain or Palin in the poll given that he ended his term less popular than either of them? Is he benefiting a bit from the presidential aura, or is it simply that people are more likely to think of him when they remember better economic times a few years ago? Or is it the fact that he’s handled himself so well over the past 20 months?

It’s that people now see what a gracious, kind and self-controlled individual he was, and they see him through the lens of Obama—a thin skinned, non-ball throwing demagogue that has driven the economy thoroughly into the ground and trashed Bush at every turn. Bush has turned the other cheek repeatedly and his stock has increased as a result.

ted c on October 8, 2010 at 4:29 PM

I say the whoever’s most eligible should win that contest!

abobo on October 8, 2010 at 4:29 PM

Bush looks a lot better and healthier than he did during his last year or so in office, when he looked old. I’m glad to see he’s got that load off his shoulders and really enjoying life in retirement now. He certainly earned it.

jwolf on October 8, 2010 at 4:29 PM

By 2012, will President George W. Bush be campaigning for the Republican nominee, while the democratic nominee is saying Barack who?

slickwillie2001 on October 8, 2010 at 4:30 PM

SteveMG on October 8, 2010 at 4:27 PM

Great minds think alike! You beat me by a minute!

Brat on October 8, 2010 at 4:30 PM

Any sane, objective, thinking person would have to say that Bush was the better president, even just 2 years into Zero’s reign.

But those adjectives can’t be used to describe most Democrats.

UltimateBob on October 8, 2010 at 4:30 PM

LOL LOL LOL – This just made my weekend !!!

brewcrew67 on October 8, 2010 at 4:16 PM

This post needs more LOL

LOL!

rollthedice on October 8, 2010 at 4:31 PM

The unemployment rate was like 4.4% before the Democrats took back congress..

ninjapirate on October 8, 2010 at 4:33 PM

Great minds think alike! You beat me by a minute!

Yeah, well AP beat us both. He’s got a story and link on it in the post.

But we got the original piece anyway.

SteveMG on October 8, 2010 at 4:34 PM

Who are the 47% that prefer Obumba? Geeeze.

Dingbat63 on October 8, 2010 at 4:34 PM

Of course, there’s always this….

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIHz5tevLAw

tencole on October 8, 2010 at 4:35 PM

Bush, in a dark blue suit and azure tie, was energized and animated as he delivered his unscripted remarks…

No teleprompter! Those were the days.

Dingbat63 on October 8, 2010 at 4:38 PM

Yeah and this follows six years of relentless Bush bashing and a media 100% in the tank for the Obaminable One.

What would the numbers be like if the press just reported the news and didn’t try to influence public opinion leftward?

The Rock on October 8, 2010 at 4:40 PM

SteveMG on October 8, 2010 at 4:34 PM

Yeah I just noticed AP’s link!

Brat on October 8, 2010 at 4:42 PM

By 2012, will President George W. Bush be campaigning for the Republican nominee, while the democratic nominee is saying Barack who?

slickwillie2001 on October 8, 2010 at 4:30 PM

Prescient.

WitchDoctor on October 8, 2010 at 4:43 PM

About the only reason people would have thinking that Obama’s as good a potus as Bush deals with getting monumental legislation passed. BUT THEY’D BE WRONG ON THAT, given that Bush pushed through the Patriot Act and built the DHS. ObamaCare is not more impressive, as both legacies are grotesque mutations of what’s become of our Constitutional Republic.

That all the rancor towards Bush is still present in bitter clinging Leftists is hardly surprising. And that the hard core Left would still insist that somehow their Obama is better than Bush is completely predictable. They hate the same things that Obama hates, the rest of America, us, traditions.

As far as being personable and pleasant during hardship, Bush wins big hands down.

But Bush’s dealings through his Sec./Treasury Paulson reeks to high heaven, allowing the globalist mortgage scam and recession, covering Paulson’s @ss with an executive order enabling EVERY Sec./Treasury autonomy. TARP taxing Americans to pay off international foreign based banks stank, too, another Paulson insider gift paid at our sorry expense.

maverick muse on October 8, 2010 at 4:46 PM

tencole on October 8, 2010 at 4:35 PM

Wow what a contrast.

Brat on October 8, 2010 at 4:46 PM

Hey, Obama is and will ALWAYS be within the margin of error.

He’s a Professor Errortus at Marxist Community Organizer College.

Yeah, okay the plod was never a “Professor” merely an senior lecturer (untenured and untethered from reality)

Jack Bauer on October 8, 2010 at 4:46 PM

I’m not getting “LOL” from this. I think it’s depressing as Hell that so many Americans still like The One. How gullible can ya be not to see what an arrogant poseur the manchild is? And that’s before we get into his policies or associates. Wake up America, you’re being hustled.

Buy Danish on October 8, 2010 at 4:47 PM

Just wait and see what Barry’s numbers are this time next year.

GarandFan on October 8, 2010 at 4:48 PM

Despite the president’s 43% approval rating, a majority of voters — 51% — think the president’s approach will eventually solve the problems facing the nation.

This should require a follow-up question to see if the respondent can actually articulate what Obama’s “approach” actually is. Hell, he doesn’t even know what his approach is until Pelosi, Reid or Axlerod tells him.

ButterflyDragon on October 8, 2010 at 4:48 PM

George Bush may have mangled a syllable or two, but he sure the hell wasn’t leashed to a teleprompter 24/7. Nor, did his seal ever fall off his podium. AND, GDub could duck a pair of shoes.

ted c on October 8, 2010 at 4:49 PM

Miss me yet?

Attila (Pillage Idiot) on October 8, 2010 at 4:49 PM

There really is no comparison.

carbon_footprint on October 8, 2010 at 4:49 PM

By 2012, will President George W. Bush be campaigning for the Republican nominee, while the democratic nominee is saying Barack who?

slickwillie2001 on October 8, 2010 at 4:30 PM

If Obama decides to get down to the “hand-to-hand” combat level with the incoming Congress, then yes.

If he moves to the right to get some things done, then no.

ButterflyDragon on October 8, 2010 at 4:50 PM

Margin of error”

“I loved being your president. But frankly, I’m having the time of my life not being your president. I do not miss the limelight. I have zero desire to be in the press. I have zero desire to be on your TV screens. Eight years is enough of that.”

How this contrasts with Nero. What a zinger it is too!

Buy Danish, you logical lady, you have it so right, again.

Every populace deserves its leader (especially in a constitutional republic or a democracy).

Schadenfreude on October 8, 2010 at 4:50 PM

Prescient.

WitchDoctor on October 8, 2010 at 4:43 PM

..awsome! Awesomely awesome! Awesomely awesome awesomeness!

The War Planner on October 8, 2010 at 4:51 PM

Bush wasn’t always right but he displays class that Obama couldn’t find if you gave him a treasure map.

amerpundit on October 8, 2010 at 4:51 PM

Slightly OT – Go see Ace’s post.

Time to get off our a$$es and BE THE WAVE!!!

BacaDog on October 8, 2010 at 4:52 PM

George Bush may have mangled a syllable or two, but he sure the hell wasn’t leashed to a teleprompter 24/7. Nor, did his seal ever fall off his podium. AND, GDub could duck a pair of shoes.

ted c on October 8, 2010 at 4:49 PM

“..I refer the right honorable gentleman to the awesome comments I made some moments ago.”

The War Planner on October 8, 2010 at 4:53 PM

Leave it to CNN to push the blame Bush meme.

CWforFreedom on October 8, 2010 at 4:53 PM

They should do some other comparisons:

Obama vs. Bill Clinton

Obama vs. what if Al Gore was President

Obama vs. Jimmy Carter (Question: Which is the worst President?)

albill on October 8, 2010 at 4:55 PM

(GWB) I do not miss the limelight. I have zero desire to be in the press. I have zero desire to be on your TV screens. Eight years is enough of that.”

…of being relentlessly skewered for how Democrats screwed up New Orleans and blamed me, how Democrats filibustered banking reform and caused the mortgage crisis and blamed me, having methods to protect our country being published in the New York Times, for the troop surge which brought peace to Iraq. Remember the good ol’ days of unemployment below 6%?

Steve Z on October 8, 2010 at 4:56 PM

Exit question: Why does Bush rate higher than McCain or Palin in the poll given that he ended his term less popular than either of them? Is he benefiting a bit from the presidential aura, or is it simply that people are more likely to think of him when they remember better economic times a few years ago? Or is it the fact that he’s handled himself so well over the past 20 months?

Part of it may be that people who voted for Obama over McCain are now reluctant to say McCain would have been better, because that would require them to admit to themselves that they made a mistake. Which of course doesn’t apply to the Bush vs. Obama comparison, since Bush and Obama never actually ran against each other.

Jon0815 on October 8, 2010 at 5:05 PM

ummmmmmmmmmm

Boooooooooooooosh ain’t running next time………

but don’t tell CNN…….

you just can’t make this stuff up!!!!

RealMc on October 8, 2010 at 5:05 PM

“….a majority of voters — 51% — think the president’s approach will eventually solve the problems facing the nation.”

Much the same way cancer eventually solves the problem of hair loss.

nico on October 8, 2010 at 5:05 PM

The CNN/Opinion Research Corporation national poll was conducted October 5-7, with 1,008 adult Americans, including 938 registered voters and 504 likely voters…

So fully half the respondents don’t vote, including 7% who aren’t even registered. CNN had a perfectly functional likely voter screen, but chose to report the adult numbers instead. Excellent. I will now give these poll numbers the deep and respectful attention they deserve.

Fabozz on October 8, 2010 at 5:06 PM

Is the lesson from this poll really that Dems should think twice before bringing up Bush? The most amazing thing about it is that, after more than a year and a half of economic misery and trillion-dollar health-care boondoggles and giant oil spills and slow going in Afghanistan, The One is still (barely) preferable to Dubya.

Well for thing, it was years before Bush’s numbers got down to where Obama is right now…and this is a CNN poll at that. Who knows what a legitimate poll might show.

Also, just because people think Obama inherited a lot of these problems, does not mean they like or support the way he handles the economy. Chronologically speaking he did inherit some of the problems, all presidents inherit problems..so what?

Terrye on October 8, 2010 at 5:09 PM

*koff*RACISTS*koff*

This in two years. Wonder what it will be in another two years?

kim roy on October 8, 2010 at 5:12 PM

Bet they had to overinflate the democrap sample and undercount the repubs and/or independents to get the results with an Obama win, slight though it is. Trusting CNN on poll results would be like trusting Barney Frank or Rahmbo on gym etiquette.

eaglewingz08 on October 8, 2010 at 5:16 PM

and THIS is a CNN poll.

snowballs chance in hell that poll doesn’t waaaay over sample democrats!

This election may exceed even my overblown expectations and I expect the world to begin to heal!

Lonetown on October 8, 2010 at 5:35 PM

Five percent unemployment. You’d have to be crazy to want that.

Cicero43 on October 8, 2010 at 5:42 PM

Should’ve asked who is the better first lady…

SouthernGent on October 8, 2010 at 5:43 PM

George W. Bush, with dignity, grace and steely resolve brought us through 911, an attack that could have brought the nation to an economic standstill.

When he climbed up on that pile of rubble, he rallied the nation to pick itself up, dust itself off and get busy.

I will always love him for that single moment.

JonPrichard on October 8, 2010 at 5:50 PM

President Obushithler

BobMbx on October 8, 2010 at 5:56 PM

The CNN/Opinion Research Corporation national poll was conducted October 5-7, with 1,008 adult Americans, including 938 registered voters and 504 likely voters…

So fully half the respondents don’t vote, including 7% who aren’t even registered. CNN had a perfectly functional likely voter screen, but chose to report the adult numbers instead. Excellent. I will now give these poll numbers the deep and respectful attention they deserve.

Fabozz on October 8, 2010 at 5:06 PM

Opinion Research is owned and run by a fellow named Vinod Gupta, who’s a major Clinton groupie. Look him up sometime.

Del Dolemonte on October 8, 2010 at 6:08 PM

Should’ve asked who is the better first lady…

SouthernGent on October 8, 2010 at 5:43 PM

Maybe they did, in which case we will never know.

slickwillie2001 on October 8, 2010 at 6:22 PM

CNN poll asks “who’s the better president”: Obama 47, Bush 45

This is not even close….

Watching Obama run for the exits in Afghanistan while destroying the economy back home shows just how far the office of the President has fallen since Bush’s departure.

This is leadership:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaiGPpOH__Q&feature=related

This is a President who did not put politics before country and did what was best for Freedom no matter what it did to his poll numbers.

This was a President we could count on not to apologize for the leadership and accomplishments of America and the Freedom it has spread throughout the world.

No President is perfect….but you could count on Bush to do what was best for the country….not what was best for himself:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiSwqaQ4VbA

This is leadership that you will never see from Obama.

Baxter Greene on October 8, 2010 at 6:37 PM

Bush 5% unemployment, Obowma 10% unemployment.
Bush 14,000 Dow Jones avg, Obowma 10,900 Dow Jones avg.
Bush national debt 9.7 trillion, Obowma 13.5 trillion.
Bush 2006 deficit 200 billion, Obowma 2009 deficit 1.6 trillion.
Bush blamed predecessor: a few times (Clinton recession).
Obowma blamed predecessor: 2,789,931,451,496 times.

The facts should end the debate forever.

dthorny on October 8, 2010 at 7:14 PM

The power of the MSM never fails to astonish me. Just how many really uninformed or just plain stupid people are there in this country?!

Sheesh!!

Fatal on October 8, 2010 at 7:27 PM

A statistical tie halfway through the first term probably means that Obama will be widely recognized as a horrible president in the next 6 months to a year, and go down in history books as a Carter-like disaster.

tom on October 8, 2010 at 7:40 PM

Not under estimate the idiocy of the average voter. Bush wasn’t ideal, but to compare him to Obama is absurd.

therightwinger on October 8, 2010 at 8:45 PM

… and did, after all, come into office after the financial crisis was already in full swing.

When will it sink in that business’ planning and spending today is based on an expectation of conditions in six months to a year. While triggered by Fannie Mae / Freddie Mac, economic expectations started sinking about the same time Obama took the lead from Hillary in the Democrat primaries.

desertdweller on October 9, 2010 at 5:49 AM