Gallup: Unemployment rate back over 10%

posted at 11:36 am on October 7, 2010 by Ed Morrissey

In yet another harbinger of tomorrow’s official jobless report, Gallup shows a sharp increase in unemployment for September, pushing their estimate of joblessness to 10.1%.  The pollster also warns that tomorrow’s figure will miss some of the change, which will likely lull some into a sense that no action is needed:

Unemployment, as measured by Gallup without seasonal adjustment, increased to 10.1% in September — up sharply from 9.3% in August and 8.9% in July. Much of this increase came during the second half of the month — the unemployment rate was 9.4% in mid-September — and therefore is unlikely to be picked up in the government’s unemployment report on Friday. …

The government’s final unemployment report before the midterm elections is based on job market conditions around mid-September. Gallup’s modeling of the unemployment rate is consistent with Tuesday’s ADP report of a decline of 39,000 private-sector jobs, and indicates that the government’s national unemployment rate in September will be in the 9.6% to 9.8% range. This is based on Gallup’s mid-September measurements and the continuing decline Gallup is seeing in the U.S. workforce during 2010.

The underemployment number should remain steady, Gallup predicts, but not because businesses are hiring.  Gallup predicts that their equivalent to the U-6 number will hit between 18.6% and 18.8% because they see fewer people working part-time but looking for full-time employment.  More part-timers had their positions converted to full time, but businesses aren’t hiring part-timers to add to their staffs now.

This has implications beyond employment or the elections, too.  With unemployment rising again, the upcoming holiday season could be another disaster like 2008.  Job insecurity will result in more savings and more frugality in a season that makes or breaks retail businesses.  The pending tax hikes will also have some with cash less likely to part with it as well.  With that in mind, retailers are going to hire fewer people this holiday season in anticipation of lower demand, and Gallup warns this will mean a brutal fourth quarter for the economy.

At the same time, the Department of Labor announced that initial jobless claims fell for the third straight week to a four-month low at 445,000.  This hits at the lower end of the range seen for all of 2010, so it’s not exactly “unexpected.”  It does, however, mean that either Gallup’s data doesn’t account entirely for the job swings, or that Gallup’s data is more recent on job losses and we can expect to see the jobless claims start to rise again in the next couple of weeks, as those who lost their jobs in the final two weeks become eligible to apply for benefits.

With all of the predictors in place, where do you think the jobless rate will be tomorrow morning?  Take the poll:


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The hits just keep coming, don’t they? *sigh*

capejasmine on October 7, 2010 at 11:39 AM

Wreckovery Bummer turning into an Oppressive Fall.

Chip on October 7, 2010 at 11:40 AM

Whatever the facts, there is no way the Obama regime will permit an official figure of 10% or more to be published. Look for a flat rate or change of .1% in either direction, depending on how much brazenness Obama thinks he can get away with.

jwolf on October 7, 2010 at 11:40 AM

the pre election numbers will somehow, magically be rosey

oldernwiser on October 7, 2010 at 11:41 AM

After it’s announced, Scooter will come on TV to remind us all that it’s not his fault. He inherited this…or sumpin’.

kingsjester on October 7, 2010 at 11:42 AM

Proof the stimulus worked! Now that it’s winding down, unemployment is going back up!

BTW- does anyone have another trillion lying around?

Chuck Schick on October 7, 2010 at 11:43 AM

I’m going with an official number of 9.999999999%.

Count it!

Vashta.Nerada on October 7, 2010 at 11:43 AM

Whatever the facts, there is no way the Obama regime will permit an official figure of 10% or more to be published. Look for a flat rate or change of .1% in either direction, depending on how much brazenness Obama thinks he can get away with.

jwolf on October 7, 2010 at 11:40 AM

Yep, any figure we get from JOTUS’s administration from now until the day after the election will be unreliable. Economic growth figures will be fudged as well, and quietly ‘adjusted’ after the election.

slickwillie2001 on October 7, 2010 at 11:43 AM

I’d be surprised if it hits 10. Just about everyone I know is VERY worried about their jobs, or their lack of one, or their finances.

changer1701 on October 7, 2010 at 11:44 AM

Whatever the facts, there is no way the Obama regime will permit an official figure of 10% or more to be published. Look for a flat rate or change of .1% in either direction, depending on how much brazenness Obama thinks he can get away with.

jwolf on October 7, 2010 at 11:40 AM

And then in January ’11, a committee will reveal how, because of incompetence or for political reasons, the administration hid the true numbers…

ChrisB on October 7, 2010 at 11:44 AM

It’s DOWN FALL time for Democrats!!!!!!

pilamaye on October 7, 2010 at 11:45 AM

If it’s 10% or higher, only Dems in Congressional Black Caucus districts will be safe.

BuckeyeSam on October 7, 2010 at 11:45 AM

This seems to be at odds with the piece at Ace, but I guess that’s relying on the DOL numbers.

Firefly_76 on October 7, 2010 at 11:46 AM

Joe “8 percent” Biden always reminds me of Carl Spackler from Caddyshack: “I’d keep playing. I don’t think the heavy stuff’s gonna come down for quite a while.”

saint kansas on October 7, 2010 at 11:47 AM

“We’re definitely headed in the right direction!!!”

-The Child Emperor

VelvetElvis on October 7, 2010 at 11:47 AM

I don’t think it’ll hit 10% through BLS figures, if for no other reason than magic math will be done in the interest of politics.

But if it does? Many, many Democrats can start packing. That would be politically disastrous right before the election.

amerpundit on October 7, 2010 at 11:49 AM

Yeah, we should be thanking BHO…

d1carter on October 7, 2010 at 11:49 AM

Inconceivable!

29Victor on October 7, 2010 at 11:50 AM

OT: Only “attractive” people are authorized to attend Obama’s next town meeting!

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/1010/MTV_screening_Obamas_audience_for_views_looks.html

The Lone Platypus on October 7, 2010 at 11:52 AM

Ruh roh. Unemployment rising again, with elections coming next month.

But not to worry, Department of Labor will jigger the number down to about 9.4%.

petefrt on October 7, 2010 at 11:52 AM

Yeah, we should be thanking BHO…

d1carter on October 7, 2010 at 11:49 AM

Friday:
8:30 am ET – the September employment numbers come out.
8:31 am ET – BHO blames Bush.

ChrisB on October 7, 2010 at 11:52 AM

Wreckovery Bummer turning into an Oppressive Fall.

Chip on October 7, 2010 at 11:40 AM

The Great Oppression (with the O being the Obama logo, natch.)

Abby Adams on October 7, 2010 at 11:53 AM

Do I have to be the first commenter to invoke the “U” word here?

UltimateBob on October 7, 2010 at 11:53 AM

More stimulus stat or we’ll be at 20% by next year!

mankai on October 7, 2010 at 11:54 AM

The truth cannot be hidden for long.

Real unemployment in depression era terms is U6 and stands at about 18%, The great depression ran unemployment numbers of 15-20%.

tarpon on October 7, 2010 at 11:55 AM

I don’t think it’ll hit 10% through BLS figures, if for no other reason than magic math will be done in the interest of politics.

But if it does? Many, many Democrats can start packing. That would be politically disastrous right before the election.

amerpundit on October 7, 2010 at 11:49 AM

After the elections the coming revisions will let the numbers go above 10%..

the_nile on October 7, 2010 at 11:55 AM

“Unexpectedly”.
And whats the deal with linking to the NYT sign in page?
Is HOTAIR now pimping NYT?
Personally I think its TACKY.
IMHO Either post the story or dont. Dont try to use us to boost their numbers.

ColdWarrior57 on October 7, 2010 at 11:55 AM

i’ll take 9.8% for a dollar and four apples Alex…

Despite that, the hammer is coming–someone is going to have a swirlie here pretty soon, vacaycay or not.

flush.

ted c on October 7, 2010 at 11:58 AM

Over at ZeroHedge, they pointed out that the initial claims number has been adjusted upward the following week in 23 out of 24 cases. Wow are those UI prognosticators having a bad run of guesses, or what?

Nothing to see here, move along.

GnuBreed on October 7, 2010 at 11:58 AM

Look on the bright side: if every family in America pays $31,000 per year for 75 years, our current debt will be paid off…..

Vashta.Nerada on October 7, 2010 at 11:59 AM

Friday:
8:30 am ET – the September employment numbers come out.
8:31 am ET – BHO blames Bush.

ChrisB on October 7, 2010 at 11:52 AM

8:32 AM ET – he hits the links for a round of golf to clear his mind.

UltimateBob on October 7, 2010 at 11:59 AM

Whatever the facts, there is no way the Obama regime will permit an official figure of 10% or more to be published. Look for a flat rate or change of .1% in either direction, depending on how much brazenness Obama thinks he can get away with.
jwolf on October 7, 2010 at 11:40 AM

WHAT! Are you telling us that Obama would Lie?

That would so Unexpected of him, wouldn’t it?

Chip on October 7, 2010 at 12:00 PM

Troll-resistant thread.

mankai on October 7, 2010 at 12:01 PM

Do I have to be the first commenter to invoke the “U” word here?

UltimateBob on October 7, 2010 at 11:53 AM

Unexpectedly”.

ColdWarrior57 on October 7, 2010 at 11:55 AM

There ya go! I knew that word would show up sooner or later! :-)

UltimateBob on October 7, 2010 at 12:01 PM

The pending tax hikes will also have some with cash less likely to part with it as well…

It’s worse than that. I predict these pending tax hikes, if not addressed will move many more families into foreclosure. This is a freaking disaster national emergency.

Anyone who was foolish enough to believe that if ‘you make less than $250,000 a year your taxes won’t go up one dime’ is about to get a big dose of reality. Indeed, the threshold is now less than $50,000 a year unless action is taken by a Congress led by Nancy ‘food stamps provide an awesome bang for your buck’ Pelosi.

Buy Danish on October 7, 2010 at 12:01 PM

The stimulus worked!

WisCon on October 7, 2010 at 12:02 PM

Troll-resistant thread.

mankai on October 7, 2010 at 12:01 PM

Reality is like troll Kryptonite.

UltimateBob on October 7, 2010 at 12:02 PM

Friday:
8:30 am ET – the September employment numbers come out.
8:31 am ET – BHO blames Bush.
ChrisB on October 7, 2010 at 11:52 AM

8:32 AM ET – he hits the links for a round of golf to clear his mind.
UltimateBob on October 7, 2010 at 11:59 AM

Followed by another vacation.

Chip on October 7, 2010 at 12:02 PM

Over at ZeroHedge, they pointed out that the initial claims number has been adjusted upward the following week in 23 out of 24 cases. Wow are those UI prognosticators having a bad run of guesses, or what?

Nothing to see here, move along.

GnuBreed on October 7, 2010 at 11:58 AM

Well, the prognosticators dont want to be part of their numbers..

the_nile on October 7, 2010 at 12:03 PM

The Junior Senator posing as President will fix all of this…

PatriotRider on October 7, 2010 at 12:03 PM

Troll-resistant thread.
mankai on October 7, 2010 at 12:01 PM

There’s a lot of that going around these days.

Chip on October 7, 2010 at 12:05 PM

It’s worse than that. I predict these pending tax hikes, if not addressed will move many more families into foreclosure.Buy Danish on October 7, 2010 at 12:01 PM
Buy Danish on October 7, 2010 at 12:01 PM

And I am hearing that Oboobi is absolutely adamant about these taxes…he will NOT budge. Well, HE’LL pay later.

NJ Red on October 7, 2010 at 12:09 PM

Yeah, the Obama regime never reports 10% even though we all know its really over 18 ALREADY. My guess is they report 9.9%

dogsoldier on October 7, 2010 at 12:09 PM

The economy and job market are lousy. They will try to spin it tomorrow no matter what number gets slapped on it, but you can only get that s**t so shiny when you polish a turd.

forest on October 7, 2010 at 12:10 PM

Geoff over at AoSHQ is warning not to read too much into this because of a particular line in the report:

without seasonal adjustment

He thinks unemployment is actually going down because businesses finally see the light at the end of the tunnel coming November 2.

Caiwyn on October 7, 2010 at 12:16 PM

There has to be a pivot from vacations to jobs at some point, right?

tommer74 on October 7, 2010 at 12:19 PM

Geoff over at AoSHQ is warning not to read too much into this because of a particular line in the report:

without seasonal adjustment

He thinks unemployment is actually going down because businesses finally see the light at the end of the tunnel coming November 2.
Caiwyn on October 7, 2010 at 12:16 PM

Just remember, that light could be the oncoming train of the oppressive tax increases come January.

Chip on October 7, 2010 at 12:20 PM

It’s a feature!

There has to be a pivot from vacations to jobs at some point, right?

tommer74 on October 7, 2010 at 12:19 PM

Yes – when the new Republican president enters office after the 2012 election, we will pivot from vacations to jobs.

Midas on October 7, 2010 at 12:22 PM

They’ll be honest and say unemployment has increased to 14% from 12.5%.

Just kidding.

BowHuntingTexas on October 7, 2010 at 12:24 PM

Figures don’t lie, but liars figure.

Mirimichi on October 7, 2010 at 12:27 PM

Recovery fall.

More American out of work due to the absolutely worthless, corrupt and incompetent Democrat Party.

If this were not a Christian nation, Democrat politicians would be hanging from lamp posts by now.

NoDonkey on October 7, 2010 at 12:28 PM

5000 barrels per day – Max!
/credibility!

dont taze me bro on October 7, 2010 at 12:30 PM

Troll-resistant thread.
mankai on October 7, 2010 at 12:01 PM

There’s a lot of that going around these days.

Chip on October 7, 2010 at 12:05 PM

That reminds me, who used to say that these pesky unemployment numbers were actually just “lagging indicators” of a economic turnaround? That was about a year and a 1/2 ago.

betsyz on October 7, 2010 at 12:36 PM

betsyz on October 7, 2010 at 12:36 PM

They were right.

They will lag until after the 111th Democrat owned Congress gets hurled from power by enraged voters.

NoDonkey on October 7, 2010 at 12:38 PM

Funny thing… The guys at work who during the second Bush term would show up at least once week with a pronouncement about how awful things were getting… will not even engage in a quick non-specific discussion about the current economy. I’ve even tried to trick him into it with a story about an out of work ’friend’… He totally panics and all but runs away.
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The shoe/show/expression on his face that I’m really waiting for though is when he realizes that at 60ish, and with a long list of medical issues (including chemo for cancer not too long ago), his savior Obama has a ‘cost to benefit analysis board’ (but definitely not a DEATH PANEL) ready to help him with all his end of life medications assistance.

RalphyBoy on October 7, 2010 at 12:48 PM

It figures. The various bailouts and stimulus plans were nothing more than very expensive can-kicking efforts, while the real problem remains unaddressed: that America is trying to fund a first-world nation on Wal-Mart wages and McJobs.

And the housing bubble hasn’t even finished popping…

Dark-Star on October 7, 2010 at 12:51 PM

If jobs are his top priority, then he qualifies for the “miserable failure” title.

av8tr on October 7, 2010 at 12:25 PM

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In fact… a solid ZERO

RalphyBoy on October 7, 2010 at 12:51 PM

Well I have to agree that Obummer won’t allow anything 10% or over to be published right before elections – but when I took the poll, I thought we were shooting for the REAL number, which will be over 10%.

katablog.com on October 7, 2010 at 12:54 PM

Soooooooo, I’m out of money now which means I should just spend more money I don’t have? Riiiiight.

A good, sold B+, my azz.

dthorny on October 7, 2010 at 12:55 PM

Obama has a ‘cost to benefit analysis board’ (but definitely not a DEATH PANEL) ready to help him with all his end of life medications assistance.

RalphyBoy on October 7, 2010 at 12:48 PM

Obowma: Na, no surgery required, just take a pain pill for that cancer.

http://hotair.com/archives/2009/07/21/video-let-them-eat-painkillers/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-dQfb8WQvo

dthorny on October 7, 2010 at 1:01 PM

Troll-resistant thread.

mankai on October 7, 2010 at 12:01 PM

October 2009: “Unemployment is a lagging indicator! We’re in a recovery! The stimulus is working!”

October 2010:

forest on October 7, 2010 at 1:12 PM

What would Bite-me say this time? He IS the one, appointed by Obama, dolling out money, isn’t he?

Sir Napsalot on October 7, 2010 at 1:15 PM

It’s working okay, it you are bent on destroying America.

katablog.com on October 7, 2010 at 1:15 PM

The continuing claims figure does not include the number of Americans receiving extended and emergency benefits under federal programs. Those who’ve used up their traditional benefits and are now collecting emergency and extended payments increased by about 257,000 to 5.14 million in the week ended Sept. 18.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-10-07/jobless-claims-in-u-s-unexpectedly-decreased-11-000-last-week-to-445-000.html

marinetbryant on October 7, 2010 at 1:15 PM

What would Bite-me say this time?

There are no planes at the airport….. oops that was Baghdad Bob. The recovery is working……. just like we planned.

katablog.com on October 7, 2010 at 1:16 PM

OT: Only “attractive” people are authorized to attend Obama’s next town meeting!

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/1010/MTV_screening_Obamas_audience_for_views_looks.html

The Lone Platypus on October 7, 2010 at 11:52 AM

That is just THE excuse. They don’t want to have any of the real people attending town hall and risk the “I’me tired of defending you” ever happens again.

Sir Napsalot on October 7, 2010 at 1:22 PM

The slowing in job losses could also mean that we have reached bottom in terms of minimal economic activity required to keep a business or economy alive. A certain level of economic activity will always exist…I think.

PattyJ on October 7, 2010 at 1:25 PM

Chip on October 7, 2010 at 12:02 PM

I tipped Ed that ODumbAss is actually taking 12 days after the election to go on a wicked cool trip! Isn’t that great?

He works soooooo hard, y’know?

dogsoldier on October 7, 2010 at 1:39 PM

Look on the bright side: if every family in America pays $31,000 per year for 75 years, our current debt will be paid off…..

Vashta.Nerada on October 7, 2010 at 11:59 AM

Debt? What debt? I thought it was all a myth.

Trafalgar on October 7, 2010 at 1:43 PM

dogsoldier on October 7, 2010 at 1:39 PM

I hope it’s soundproof, so nobody can hear the First President Temper Tantrum.

kingsjester on October 7, 2010 at 1:48 PM

The slowing in job losses could also mean that we have reached bottom in terms of minimal economic activity required to keep a business or economy alive. A certain level of economic activity will always exist…I think.

PattyJ on October 7, 2010 at 1:25 PM

That is what I think whenever I hear the claim that compared to X month last year or 2008, the figures are good.

Where I work, we are at rock bottom in hours allowed for the associates. Each of us are expected to do the job that 3 or 4 had done last year. Service is bad, employees are very disgruntled but where do we go? It’s not like we can walk away from the job we have and expect to easily find another.

Jvette on October 7, 2010 at 2:23 PM

For me, it’s 100%.

leftnomore on October 7, 2010 at 2:39 PM

The stated number will probably be a couple tenths below 10% — 9.7 or 9.8 is my guess. When the numbers are revised, though, it’ll be above 10. Obama has to cover his ass as much as possible, and a spike in unemployment just before the election is one of the worst things that could happen for him.

Fat Jolly Penguin on October 7, 2010 at 3:07 PM

Unemployment, as measured by Gallup without seasonal adjustment, increased to 10.1% in September — up sharply from 9.3% in August and 8.9% in July.

So, for the last 3 months Obama has been telling us the the numbers were moving in the “right” direction, but slower than he likes.

Has anyone ever asked him what the “right number” or the actual “goal” is?

Everyone assumes he means the right direction and the goal is lower unemployment, but that may not be the case.

Either he is an utter moron who has absolutely no idea WTF he’s doing, or he is an evil genius bent on destroying this country.

He is consistent for patting himself on the back for doing a good job as the economy dives!

DSchoen on October 7, 2010 at 3:55 PM

The Junior Senator posing as President will fix all of this…

PatriotRider on October 7, 2010 at 12:03 PM

fify

DSchoen on October 7, 2010 at 3:58 PM

HOPEY CHANGY
Its ALWAYS been above 10% they have used census and other means of manipulation to make it see like ” ONLY 9.5% ”
VIVA OBAMA

ELMO Q on October 7, 2010 at 4:07 PM

Stuart Varney talking to a NY Post reporter about IRS making poll workers pay taxes so they MAY be counted in the employment numbers.

Mr_Magoo on October 7, 2010 at 4:20 PM

Stuart Varney talking to a NY Post reporter about IRS making poll workers pay taxes so they MAY be counted in the employment numbers.

Mr_Magoo on October 7, 2010 at 4:20 PM

No doubt: Are poll workers being used to inflate jobs totals?

slickwillie2001 on October 7, 2010 at 5:42 PM

Impromptu poll:

Raise your hand if you’ve started taking at least SOME preparative (is that a word?) survival measures. Examples: learning a trade, stocking up on ammo/firearms, storing or growing food, etc.

*hand*

I’ve never been a pessimist or a doomsday-conspiracy theorist, but my gut tells me bad things are coming, conservative Congress or not.

Animator Girl on October 7, 2010 at 6:35 PM