British columnist: Sure, I’d put a pillow over my child’s face if it was “deeply suffering”
posted at 8:48 pm on October 4, 2010 by Allahpundit
Via Newsbusters and the Blaze, I’ll leave it to you to divine the parameters of “deeply suffering.” A possible clue per her thoughts on abortion:
Miss Ironside said: ‘If a baby’s going to be born severely disabled or totally unwanted, surely an abortion is the act of a loving mother.’…
The writer said she recognised that disabled people could lead active and fulfilling lives.
But she said there were millions of disabled and unwanted children around the world who were left suffering in institutions.
‘To go ahead and have a baby, knowing that you can’t give it some kind of stable upbringing, seems to me to be cruel,’ she said.
Option one: Stable upbringing. Option two: Killing it in the womb. Option three: …a mystery, alas. Perhaps someday someone will think of something. In the meantime, though, I’m curious. Is she sure that smothering would be the quickest, most painless way to deal with a “deeply suffering” child? Maybe slamming it against something heavy would hurry things up. Food for thought.
Between this and that “final solution” vid for climate change skeptics, ever find yourself feeling a little relieved that the “special relationship” is over?
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Well, the way Brit HC is going the odds are 50/50 she’ll get one over her face first, and going up daily.
Can’t say I’ll break down when the news comes, either.
rightwingyahooo on October 4, 2010 at 8:51 PM
Pillow over the face? That must be how she got knocked up in the first place.
ronsfi on October 4, 2010 at 8:51 PM
“Stable.”
Lots of people growing up in “unstable” conditions in third world nations wouldn’t appreciate this notion.
blatantblue on October 4, 2010 at 8:51 PM
This proves my point from the Atheist thread. People suck.
Vera on October 4, 2010 at 8:52 PM
She’s clearly senile.
On that note, I wonder where she stands on euthanasia.
Caiwyn on October 4, 2010 at 8:53 PM
Soros is also a Fabian Socialist. Talk about “extremists!”
Connie on October 4, 2010 at 8:53 PM
The West is becoming a full-bore Lord of the Flies metaphor.
rightwingyahooo on October 4, 2010 at 8:53 PM
Well, my first thought is that this woman is right there with the mom who had no problem with Solomon’s command to his soldier to cut the living child in two.
You can tell she’s no mom of a living child.
INC on October 4, 2010 at 8:53 PM
Anyone who would inconvenience her or make her feel icky if she had to look at them.
Lily on October 4, 2010 at 8:54 PM
She’s right. I mean, when have you ever heard of someone from an unstable background succeeding in life?
Like a boy born to a struggling single mother who gets abandoned by his birth father. Obviously has no future, right?
Good Solid B-Plus on October 4, 2010 at 8:54 PM
ABSOLUTELY PERFECT REPLY !
petefrt on October 4, 2010 at 8:55 PM
I wonder how Virginia would feel if, in her old age, she was deemed to be unwanted and doomed to spend her remaining days suffering, and so was told it was “time”.
Bishop on October 4, 2010 at 8:55 PM
Wow, the liberal mindset is on full display lately.
Wasn’t there a time when the left cared about civil rights?
JustTruth101 on October 4, 2010 at 8:56 PM
Why not tie a brick to its leg and throw it in the pool? What’s the difference?
Sorry, but there has to be a Hell for people like this.
SouthernGent on October 4, 2010 at 8:56 PM
Ba-zing.
Good Solid B-Plus on October 4, 2010 at 8:56 PM
The return of the Eugenics movement…
So much for Never Again..
katy on October 4, 2010 at 8:56 PM
Wow, this woman is invaluable…all libs are born “severely disabled, and unwanted by most”. So, go for it.
Wills on October 4, 2010 at 8:56 PM
Who goes Nazi?
I know, I know!
Lance Murdock on October 4, 2010 at 8:57 PM
This evil witch probably would smother her kid if they had the sniffles and a sore throat. Definitely proves that there are truly evil people in this world, and apparently they get the media’s ear.
Tuari on October 4, 2010 at 8:57 PM
Think I will HIDE THE PILLOWS next time I visit my family in England.
400lb Gorilla on October 4, 2010 at 8:58 PM
Or just beat it to death with a sack of hammers. It’s the “humane” thing to do, right? At least, according to our leftist betters.
Good Solid B-Plus on October 4, 2010 at 8:58 PM
CUNNING STUNT! Sorry I just had to say that as well.
400lb Gorilla on October 4, 2010 at 8:58 PM
Exactly. I don’t have a huge problem with euthanasia, but this not really even in the same universe.
lorien1973 on October 4, 2010 at 8:59 PM
Look out for old age lady. The way National Health over there is going you my find yourself to be considered to be “suffering” by the state.
Ask not for whom the pillow smothers
Guardian on October 4, 2010 at 8:59 PM
Another thought:
Something about the altar of abortion makes liberals lose their minds. In order to justify abortion, liberals will analogize any act, no matter how horrific, to support the position that abortion is ok.
JustTruth101 on October 4, 2010 at 9:00 PM
The number one reason I, as an agnostic, hope there is an afterlife is so that those who get off so lightly in life can receive what they deserve in hell.
Macabre I know but I’ve gotten to that point.
Grayson on October 4, 2010 at 9:01 PM
All the inmates in prison are suffering and leading a miserable existence. Shouldn’t they all be put to death on humanitarian grounds?
ddrintn on October 4, 2010 at 9:02 PM
Step 1: Abortion!
Step 2: ?????
Step 3: Profit!
Step 4: Smothering with a pillow!
Nethicus on October 4, 2010 at 9:02 PM
As an adoptive parent of a child with disabilities, I can assure our eugenicist that, should she not find it in her heart to love an imperfect human being, there are many other people who can and will.
obladioblada on October 4, 2010 at 9:02 PM
Can I put a pillow over her face? She seems to be suffering from a chronic case of the dumbass. Obviously she needs to be put out of her misery.
BacaDog on October 4, 2010 at 9:03 PM
I’m sure your mother felt the same and was really tempted on numerous occasions.
bannedbyhuffpo on October 4, 2010 at 9:03 PM
sick
ted c on October 4, 2010 at 9:04 PM
Yeah, I’m afraid that the UK is gone forever, along with most of the rest of Europe.
ddrintn on October 4, 2010 at 9:05 PM
I think that I would put a BAG over her face. And one over mine as well in case hers came off
400lb Gorilla on October 4, 2010 at 9:05 PM
Executing a mass murderer – Inhumane! Barbaric! What are we, savages?!!?
Smothering to death an “unwanted” infant – Epic win. Awesomesauce to the max. Totally compassionate.
Lib Logic 101. It’s stunning, really.
Good Solid B-Plus on October 4, 2010 at 9:06 PM
Can we spare the baby and rid the mother??…
Can trade her to the Taliban..hehe
hawkman on October 4, 2010 at 9:06 PM
Get that damn purple out of your hair and search for your soul, monster! No big guess as to what she`d do with an aging ad burdensome parent.
ThePrez on October 4, 2010 at 9:08 PM
‘IT’
She keeps referring to a ‘loving’ child as ‘IT’
‘Nuff Said. A truly self-absorbed, heart-less b!itch.
Phil-351 on October 4, 2010 at 9:08 PM
Yes Virginia, there is an insanity clause.
GnuBreed on October 4, 2010 at 9:09 PM
Evil Liberals want to murder little babies by smothering them with pillows so they won’t suffer, whereby creating serial murderers masquarading as mommies. They want to blow off the heads of school children in the name of saving the planet.
Tolerance?
TN Mom on October 4, 2010 at 9:09 PM
She is clearly suffering…
d1carter on October 4, 2010 at 9:09 PM
It’s not enough that the murder of the unborn on demand is legal, but now we’re supposed to think that “surely an abortion is the act of a loving mother”?
The mind boggles.
WaltzingMtilda on October 4, 2010 at 9:11 PM
When using a pillow to suffocate, use something that is colorfast. The purple bangs is a big giveaway.
Electrongod on October 4, 2010 at 9:11 PM
So actually wanting the child is not necessary to be a loving parent?
malclave on October 4, 2010 at 9:14 PM
I’m missing the part where we go from “I can’t love this child” to “so the loving thing to do is kill it.”
TexasDan on October 4, 2010 at 9:16 PM
Oh SNAP!
Exactly what is “totally unwanted” anyway? According to whom, the mother? This woman assumes even that kids “suffering” in institutions aren’t “wanted”. But not one iota of responsibility on the mother. Rape and incest is one thing, but a woman who considers her pregnancy as “a mistake” is quite another.
These liberals seem to have crystal balls…they can accurately predict how any child will turn out, and of what “value” they are worth. Incredible. And disgusting.
JetBoy on October 4, 2010 at 9:18 PM
WTF.
These people are monsters.
tetriskid on October 4, 2010 at 9:18 PM
When you’ve committed yourself irrevocably to the indefensible, your defenses inevitable become more nonsensical, shrill, and frequent.
Merovign on October 4, 2010 at 9:19 PM
Now you can understand why someone would hate Gov. Palin for giving birth to trig. Unreal I did not know we had so many monsters in the world….liberals are insane
unseen on October 4, 2010 at 9:20 PM
I guess it’s a mark of a great civilization when, instead of bashing babies skulls in while in the secrecy of a “sterile” clinic room, just do it out in the open like the ancients? We’ve come SO FAR
quiz1 on October 4, 2010 at 9:20 PM
She’s simply on the same end of the monstrous spectrum that Barack ‘leave those unwanted babies in a closet until they’re dead’ Obama and many hard lefties are.
Absolutely monstrous.
Midas on October 4, 2010 at 9:21 PM
This wretched piece of humanity has to first find a life form willing to commit an act with her that could lead to a child.
Fat chance of that happening.
David2.0 on October 4, 2010 at 9:21 PM
–She’s citing the British National Health Care procedure in Britain for self-care which lowers the country’s overall health care costs.
chickasaw42 on October 4, 2010 at 9:22 PM
I wonder why it’s okay to put a “deeply suffering” child out of its’ misery but not a spouse or parent? Does she consider a child her property? What is wrong with people like this?
Cindy Munford on October 4, 2010 at 9:22 PM
What’s really awful is that when this does happen (not if, but when), the creeps will record it and put it up on youtube.
trapeze on October 4, 2010 at 9:22 PM
It occurs to me that this hideous woman is extremely unwanted, and simply an overgrown child – I suppose by her reasoning she’d be perfectly accepting if someone decided to simply kill her, right?
Midas on October 4, 2010 at 9:23 PM
Postnatal abortion. Every child better be a wanted child.
unclesmrgol on October 4, 2010 at 9:24 PM
MASK SLIPS/KINSLEY GAFFE.
LEFTISTS = PEOPLE WHO THINK NOTHING OF KILLING THEIR OWN BABIES, BUT HATE TO EVEN SAY A BAD WORD ABOUT THE ROP.
reliapundit on October 4, 2010 at 9:25 PM
The bullet method is superior. One shot — one suffering kid, dead.
Does kind of put the moral context in perspective, doesn’t it?
J.E. Dyer on October 4, 2010 at 9:25 PM
Aaaaahhh the “progress” of progressives. It may look barbarism, but it’s not…’cause she’s got purple hair…and a British accent.
Weight of Glory on October 4, 2010 at 9:26 PM
Allahpundit,
Wonder if the woman is Christian or Atheist??
I know which direction I’d bet the house. The answer is obvious to everyone on this thread.
Love ya, AP, but you know it’s true.
HDFOB on October 4, 2010 at 9:26 PM
You should.
Vera on October 4, 2010 at 9:27 PM
In Western Europe (France, Germany, etc.), the abortion laws are often more strict than in the US (late term abortions are not allowed, for instance), although in the UK I believe they are about the same as in the US.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/6235557.stm
So I wouldn’t give up on the Euros completely.
Dreadnought on October 4, 2010 at 9:31 PM
I guess I showed how much I hated my kid by sitting at his bedside and holding his hand, feeding him ice chips, and traveling to hospitals in 5 states so he could get the best care possible as he suffered through his 8 grueling spine surgeries over 6 years…. when all I needed was a pillow.
Lily on October 4, 2010 at 9:32 PM
Normally I’d consider that comment rude and uncalled for, but in this case I think it was actually called for.
peski on October 4, 2010 at 9:33 PM
I get the feeling this woman wouldn’t want to be bothered by the mess a bullet would cause, thus pillow method.
tru2tx on October 4, 2010 at 9:36 PM
Is anyone clearing out a rubber room for this nut? George Bernard Shaw would be proud.
Philly on October 4, 2010 at 9:39 PM
.
I agree.
ronsfi on October 4, 2010 at 9:41 PM
Lily on October 4, 2010 at 9:32 PM
the world would be a much better place with more people like you and less like this lady…..
unseen on October 4, 2010 at 9:43 PM
This woman sounds cracked. I’m pro-choice and I do agree that if the fetus is severely disabled (spina bifida, Down’s syndrome, etc.) then abortion should be an option. But to say that it’s a loving mother that aborts an unwanted baby is flatly wrong. It’s not loving towards the baby. It’s the woman choosing to take care of her own wishes. That’s legal and I support it, but nobody should be putting on airs like it’s a kind act.
Jill1066 on October 4, 2010 at 9:43 PM
So you believe that disability is a crime deserving of the death penalty?
Vera on October 4, 2010 at 9:50 PM
Um, why would a loving mother not want a child? I really don’t get this at all…
Fallon on October 4, 2010 at 9:51 PM
Jill,
Here is a PBS transcript of a married couple, both born with spina bifida, with their daughter who was not.
These are people you’re talking about, you know.
BTW, folic acid is the vitamin that makes the difference. It’s vital during the earliest days of pregnancy.
INC on October 4, 2010 at 9:51 PM
Even Hitler’s Stormtroopers that ran the ovens at Auchwitz had mothers…mothers like THIS monster!
Someone needs to put a pillow over HER face!
Justrand on October 4, 2010 at 9:52 PM
It’s not just abortion. It’s the whole sheeple thing.
ddrintn on October 4, 2010 at 9:53 PM
I’ve worked in special education for years. People with Down’s and spina bifida are perfectly wonderful people who would never think to kill you just because you aren’t like them.
Thank you. It’s too bad some people are so afraid of seeing some suffering that they are willing to kill someone to spare their own delicate sensibilities.
Lily on October 4, 2010 at 9:54 PM
Demonic.
AnotherOpinion on October 4, 2010 at 9:56 PM
Virginia Ironside has huge issues. I’ve been looking around and I found this on a memoir she wrote of her mother. While it’s dreadful she had such a mother, she perpetuates child abuse.
INC on October 4, 2010 at 9:57 PM
Depraved but a logical follow-on from abortion.
aengus on October 4, 2010 at 9:58 PM
You are a wonderful mother, and all children should be so blessed.
INC on October 4, 2010 at 9:59 PM
Progressivism is a mental disorder.
A psychosis, really.
SuperCool on October 4, 2010 at 10:02 PM
Hey, here’s an idea:
How about instead of spending millions on abortion mills, you use those tax dollars to help stable loving people who can’t afford to fork over 10, 20, 30 grand to adopt these supposedly “unwanted” children?
Or, better yet, how about you keep it in your pants if you don’t want kids or fear getting the cooties from someone who is disabled.
My child is my child. Healthy or otherwise. A loving mother treats her child with dignity, not like a piece of garbage.
The term this “woman” is actually looking for is a “self-loving” mother.
englishqueen01 on October 4, 2010 at 10:03 PM
My impression is this, uhh, woman, goes to the pillow-over-the-face because she enjoys the act. Smothering is an up-close-and-personal act that provides the murderer (this woman, as an example) the “opportunity” to watch the suffering while someone’s life is taken from them. Bullets, anything “quicker” doesn’t benefit the murderer with this particular type of sadistic mind. This woman WANTS to OBSERVE and ENJOY the act, thus, she refers to smothering, her hands, a pillow, taking another life.
She’s what is called a sadist. Quite sick.
Lourdes on October 4, 2010 at 10:16 PM
I am disgusted beyond words. Pure evil.
Norwegian on October 4, 2010 at 10:17 PM
Not shocking. This is the same kind of person who condones abortion and they wonder why people are disgusted by them.
I personally don’t care about euthanasia because it is an adult making a decision for themselves, this is just disgusting.
MFn G I M P on October 4, 2010 at 10:17 PM
Only about THEIR civil rights, and if you are not one of them, tough luck.
chai on October 4, 2010 at 10:17 PM
That her victim of mention is a child is even more sadistic. That it might be her own child, quite the monstrous perspective for “any mother”.
Lourdes on October 4, 2010 at 10:17 PM
The look of open-mouth horror on the face of the girl on the left is priceless. This chick is a vile monster/liberal.
Jaibones on October 4, 2010 at 10:18 PM
THIS IS THE
GODLESSDarwin Worshipping Progressive Left.Except it’s not really survival of the fittest as much as it’s survival of the RULING CLASS PROGRESSIVE ELITISTS.
PappyD61 on October 4, 2010 at 10:18 PM
…and presumably — sorry to say it, AP — an atheist. Bet me.
Jaibones on October 4, 2010 at 10:18 PM
Didn’t one of the DIVINE Progressives say recently that the world really needed to be brought down to about a billion people ideally?
Oh, I found the link it was the COPENHAGEN CLIMATE CHANGERS…..
http://neuroanthropology.net/2009/12/07/copenhagen-climate-change/
MMMMMMM, That would mean that 5 out of 6 people in the world would have that special ‘PILLOW TALK’ trip to Eternity.
PROGRESSIVE LOVE. So warm and fuzzy.
PappyD61 on October 4, 2010 at 10:25 PM
We are all Claus Von Bulows now!
Caper29 on October 4, 2010 at 10:32 PM
Who would like to have her as your mother?
Would you like her to be your surgeon? Would you trust her to hand you a pill from the medicine cabinet?
Really, it’s not about the suffering of the child. The woman just doesn’t want to suffer the child. There is a difference.
Special needs children require effort to care for. Someone who is severely sick has need. She doesn’t want to be bothered so kill the kid and call it compassion. Liberalism is pure evil.
Hey, I have a question. Does any kind of suffering qualify? What if you and your friends agree you just can’t endure that guy down the street anymore or the other guy you work with because he’s a tard with a brain the size of a pea? Could be time to get some pillows and show some compassion.
If you can kill somebody because they’re suffering, then why can’t you kill somebody if they’re causing you suffering?
JellyToast on October 4, 2010 at 10:37 PM
It’s so strange how “Women” like this can think that killing and/or aborting a child is the act of a good “mother”. It’s just f’n insane. Abortion and motherhood don’t exactly go hand-in-hand last I checked. In fact, I think it’s fair to say that abortion or “smothering” a child prevents motherhood through the act of KILLING THE DAMN CHILD THEREFORE THERE’S NOTHING TO MOTHER!
Ugh. Liberal “logic”. Now my head hurts.
Yakko77 on October 4, 2010 at 10:37 PM
Malevolent.
kingsjester on October 4, 2010 at 10:41 PM
Nah, I’m just a regular Mom. And a Mom’s gotta do what a Mom’s gotta do. And sometimes there are hard times to suffer through, but, you know everyone, has their troubles.
There are lots of Moms and Dads out there sitting by bedsides, just doing what Moms and Dads with sick, injured, or disabled kids do. I know. I have met a lot of them over the years.
But I think I will print out you kind words, anyway. And then hand it to The Kid the next time I have to tell him, “I realize you are all grown up and 15 years old, but NO you can’t go the the boy-girl sleep over at Nathan’s house. And, you are right, I don’t care if everyone else is going and you will be socially humiliated because your Mom is so uncool. Because I am evil like that.”
Lily on October 4, 2010 at 10:44 PM
I had a comment, then I read your comment and my comment felt inadequate and slunk away.
29Victor on October 4, 2010 at 10:45 PM
Yeah, my husband’s been saying that a lot lately: “I hate the Brits these days. They’re all stupid f-ing liberals and their food sucks.”
It’s downright depressing, really, to witness how the mighty have fallen. And not just a little chilling.
Animator Girl on October 4, 2010 at 10:49 PM
If recovery is hopeless and the child is deeply suffering, then I agree with her. If you disagree, then you must face that you would choose to cause the lifelong agony of an innocent to satisfy your own self-righteousness. The idea that such a choice is clear and obvious is lazy and thoughtless.
bagoh20 on October 4, 2010 at 10:50 PM
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