Schakowsky: Those radical Republicans talk about self-government!

posted at 3:15 pm on October 2, 2010 by Ed Morrissey

And now, a rant so absurd that both NewsAlert and The Blaze picked up on it. Rep. Jan Schakowsky, who once argued that government should destroy the private health-insurance market, here laments the radical nature of Republicans with radio host Stephanie Miller. How are Republicans radical and extreme? Well, they quote ancient texts … like the Constitution!   They talk about old heresies … like free people governing themselves!  They’re all “tenthers” because Republicans believe the conspiracy theory that the founders added a mysterious Tenth Amendment to the Bill of Rights, and actually meant something by it!  Horrors — or as Miller says, “Oy”:

Schakowsky has an opponent in her IL-09 district, Joel Pollak, who has been very active on the Internet.  He gets backing from the Club for Growth for his sensible economic positions, not to mention the fact that the incumbent is a dyed-in-the-wool socialist.  IL-09 is a D+20 district, which means that Pollak has a Sisyphean task ahead of him to unseat Schakowsky, but a few more interviews like this and she may do Pollak’s work for him.  I interviewed Pollak at CPAC, so be sure to check out that clip, and also his latest campaign ad featuring Joel’s remarkable wife Julia:

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Wow! Mrs. Pollack is a great speaker for her husband – obviously intelligent, quite articulate, and very attractive. They make a lovely couple.

Jill1066 on October 2, 2010 at 3:22 PM

“All that stuff”? The Constitution and free people governing themselves is stuff?

And the snide condescension in her voice is something else, too.

Wethal on October 2, 2010 at 3:25 PM

Coming to the US because it promotes freedom and self-governance? Radical!

More extremist rightwing propaganda from people who think they should have the right to make decisions without the loving guidance of our Beneficent Nanny State.

Who do these Constitution lovers think they are? Free people with the right to self determination? Crazy nutjobs.

powerpro on October 2, 2010 at 3:26 PM

Well, Schakowsky, those who embrace the Constitution and the Tenth Amendment really are “all about” the freedom to become rich people…if they choose to work hard and use the opportunities open to them. It really is all about choice, isn’t it?

Knock off the class warfare, you dumb broad. It’s tiresome.

onlineanalyst on October 2, 2010 at 3:28 PM

We are at a crossroads.

We either live in freedom or we live to serve others.

Democrats must be stopped. If they retain power while they are openly saying the Constitution is radical, we will lose everything we hold dear.

GardenGnome on October 2, 2010 at 3:28 PM

You must admit that “Tenthers” is cuter than “Taliban Dan.”

Seth Halpern on October 2, 2010 at 3:28 PM

There’s nothing sexier than a smart, attractive, Jewish conservative woman. They’re a rare breed, but well worth hunting for. If it wasn’t for Pam Geller, the 9/11 Victory Mosque controversy would have never gotten the kind of exposure that it’s had. Okay, so Pam’s voice is kind of shrill. That’s nothing that Professor Higgins can’t fix. Other than that, she’s perfect.

ardenenoch on October 2, 2010 at 3:32 PM

The Constitution she disparages is the same one that allows her the freedom to spout this nonsense.Are the people voting for her brain dead or just plain dead?

Beaglemom on October 2, 2010 at 3:32 PM

yes I’m a proud 10ther

unseen on October 2, 2010 at 3:32 PM

Wait… what? Joel Pollack is married to that smokeshow? I don’t believe it.

swamp_yankee on October 2, 2010 at 3:33 PM

There are three types of voters in the US.

1) Those who recognize the democrat party is dead and has been taken over by communists.

2) Those who know something is wrong but believe the leftist media and can’t bring themselves to admit the unthinkable.

3) Communists.

The third is a very small minority and counts on number two’s unwillingness to face reality and it’s ignorance to maintain it’s grip on power.

Educate number two and the war is won.

darwin on October 2, 2010 at 3:34 PM

yes I’m a proud 10ther

unseen on October 2, 2010 at 3:32 PM

Quoting Tenth to Power!

powerpro on October 2, 2010 at 3:36 PM

Julia Pollak, you are yummy.

JohnGalt23 on October 2, 2010 at 3:37 PM

it’s all about rich people” she says.

I’m sick of this meme. It’s constantly pushed by the Democrats and by the media. But I’m not rich. Far from it. Most of my conservative friends are far from rich – I know very few people who make over $100,000 a year. But we’re conservative anyway. Conservatism is not about the rich or protecting the rich and it never will be. This class warfare garbage has got to be stopped and the cliche needs to be called out.

I’m not rich. I do hope to be someday – and that’s part of the reason why I’m conservative and not liberal.

MikeknaJ on October 2, 2010 at 3:42 PM

We are at a crossroads.

We either live in freedom or we live to serve others. GardenGnome on October 2, 2010 at 3:28 PM

What the average Democrat voter doesn’t get is while they are thinking they are one of the “others” that will be served, they won’t be.

The “others” being served will be the people in charge and no one else. “All animals are equal!” Will become “Some animals are more equal than others!” just as soon as it can be managed.

Lily on October 2, 2010 at 3:42 PM

There are three types of voters in the US.

darwin on October 2, 2010 at 3:34 PM

A bit of an oversimplification; there are quite a few people who fall in between 2 and 3 on your list.

MikeknaJ on October 2, 2010 at 3:43 PM

Those flames at the end…were her burning.

Schadenfreude on October 2, 2010 at 3:45 PM

Democrats are brilliant.

Inanemergencydial on October 2, 2010 at 3:55 PM

It’s sad that a disgraceful nut like Schakowsky could be elected to high office in America. It shows how badly we conservatives have failed at fighting back against the radical left. We’ve had far too much of the Karl Rove approach. “We’ll just shut up and take it and hopefully the people will sort things out.” Awful.

Django on October 2, 2010 at 3:59 PM

IL-09 is a D+20 district, which means that Pollak has a Sisyphean task ahead of him to unseat Schakowsky

Let’s see…because the district leans Dem…next to impossible to unseat an un American, anti constitution socialist…has it really come to this????

winston on October 2, 2010 at 4:07 PM

Yep, (to quote Useful Idiot Ed Schultz) it’s too darned bad the “forces of evil” in the Republican Party aren’t the sorts who ally themselves with Ahmadinejead, like so many of those “social justice” groups and assorted Communists rallying in D.C. today.

Buy Danish on October 2, 2010 at 4:08 PM

And to think these thugs call us Nazi’s and Fascists, when it is they who seek to create a socialist America ruled by an elite class. The projection is so intense it is blinding.

Let’s not mince words, this woman is a Fascist, plain and simple.

DeathB4Tyranny on October 2, 2010 at 4:09 PM

A bit of an oversimplification; there are quite a few people who fall in between 2 and 3 on your list.

MikeknaJ on October 2, 2010 at 3:43 PM

Probably, but my point is the democrats have been successful only because they’re skilled at hiding who they really are and where their true sympathies lie.

Some don’t see the need to hide it anymore as in Schakowsky’s case.

darwin on October 2, 2010 at 4:10 PM

Joel Pollak was endorsed by super-lib Alan Dershowitz, too.

Abby Adams on October 2, 2010 at 4:12 PM

Let’s see…because the district leans Dem…next to impossible to unseat an un American, anti constitution socialist…has it really come to this????

winston on October 2, 2010 at 4:07 PM

No it’s not impossible. I just don’t think many constituents ever hear or see anything like this. Use their own words against them. Attack them for what they are … anti-American and anti-Constitution.

Too many Republicans are afraid to go after people like this because people will think they’re lying. They won’t if you use stuff like this. Plus there must be reams of stuff on Schakowsky. She’s one who constantly reveals where her sympathies lie … not to her constituents, but to special interest groups and most of it is recorded.

Use it.

darwin on October 2, 2010 at 4:16 PM

Yes, we are extreme– extremely ready to throw out the Democrat trash.

leftnomore on October 2, 2010 at 4:17 PM

Shark Jumped. Russian judges give it a 10.

BHO Jonestown on October 2, 2010 at 4:18 PM

Schakowsky: “It’s all about the same old same old regarding economic policy.”

Gotta hand it to her. She’s right!

Tea Party folks for the most part have an inclination to
The Free Market System
versus the Socialist cr*p the Democrats have been shoving down Americans’ throats.

Lockstein13 on October 2, 2010 at 4:24 PM

“It’s all about rich people.” She says it like it’s a dirty word when many of those rich people are her colleagues in Congress. Besides, isn’t it part of the American dream to aspire to wealth? So, how does she square that with immigrants who come here wanting to be a part of that? It’s okay to be wealthy if you’re a Democrat, but not if you’re a Republican? Isn’t Obama rich by the liberal’s definition? So, why isn’t she mad at him? As Stephanie Miller said, “Oy!”

College Prof on October 2, 2010 at 4:25 PM

With enemies like Schakowski, who needs friends? We need more Jan, and less McCain, Graham et al.

And the Pollacks…. Wow! Beautiful couple, inter-racial, one an immigrant, linked to Mandella and civil rights and conservative. Shouldn’t they be Dems? LOL Of course not. A great example of what conservatives actually are.

JimP on October 2, 2010 at 4:26 PM

Beyond physical freedom lies another greater freedom. This true freedom is scary to those who’ve never tasted it. Like a boat adrift on the ocean with no direction and no anchor. No one to tell them what to do or how to do it. To others, this is the only way to live. Indeed, it is a way of living so alien as to be repulsive to those not blessed by it.

MrX on October 2, 2010 at 4:28 PM

MRS. POLLACK should be running for Congress and let her husband stay home and raise the kids.

He sounds like a thousand other ERIC CANTOR type politicians but she’s got the goods.

PappyD61 on October 2, 2010 at 4:33 PM

Abortions are a ‘right’, but freedom is dispensable? Give that lady a one-way ticket to North Korea.

petefrt on October 2, 2010 at 4:36 PM

Serious OT: Travel advisory to US citizens traveling in Europe
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/10/02/source-issue-travel-warning-public-places-europe/

onlineanalyst on October 2, 2010 at 4:36 PM

WTF?

“Meg flunked the most fundamental test..humanity,” says Brown 2 press post debate.

http://twitter.com/KQED_CapNotes/statuses/26204501121

ninjapirate on October 2, 2010 at 4:36 PM

Wow! Mrs. Pollack is a great speaker for her husband – obviously intelligent, quite articulate, and very attractive.

Jill1066 on October 2, 2010 at 3:22 PM

Otherwise known as “Democrat’s favorite target.” I hope she has think skin. I hope that no one on the SNL cast looks like her.

29Victor on October 2, 2010 at 4:38 PM

@ swamp_yankee, question for ya–If D+20 means 60 for Schakowsky and 40 for Pollak…I would think that Julia is more than capable of making it a Red seat.

Also, Paul Ryan has endorsed Joel Pollak’s candidacy and came to Chicago for a fundraiser that made $150,000 in contributions to Joel’s campaign.

redneck hippie on October 2, 2010 at 4:39 PM

OY… Rich People…

Wade on October 2, 2010 at 4:45 PM

Use it.

darwin on October 2, 2010 at 4:16 PM

Right on! A big problem is that so many “Conservatives” assume it to be so.
Ace over at Ace of Spades sees it differently…so do I…

winston on October 2, 2010 at 5:04 PM

What the heck! You mean the tenth amendment wasn’t a joke to fill a space on a piece of paper?

burt on October 2, 2010 at 5:07 PM

And the Pollacks…. Wow! Beautiful couple, inter-racial, one an immigrant, linked to Mandella and civil rights and conservative. Shouldn’t they be Dems? LOL Of course not. A great example of what conservatives actually are.

JimP on October 2, 2010 at 4:26 PM

Actually they’re both from SA, and Julia Pollack recently joined the US Navy.

annoyinglittletwerp on October 2, 2010 at 5:33 PM

Some of you might recognize Joel Pollack from THIS video.

annoyinglittletwerp on October 2, 2010 at 5:41 PM

This woman should be impeached for her treasonous remarks.
It won’t happen now, because there are so many enemies of the Constitution holding the Majority right now.
Maybe after November 2, 2010 this kind of attitude can be addressed properly.

KMC1 on October 2, 2010 at 5:43 PM

Does anyone believe that Shakowski doesn’t have the resources to move to Cuba or North Korea? I mean, she hates everything about America and wants to to become a socialist dictatorship, well, I hate to go all “love it or leave it,” but if you’re that upset, maybe you should go, Jan.

We’d all be grateful. You can take Pete Stark.

Exit question – does she just live ideology as a total lifestyle, or does she actually believe the tenth amendment is just there to reduce whitespace in the Bill of Rights?

Merovign on October 2, 2010 at 5:45 PM

KMC1 on October 2, 2010 at 5:43 PM

Well, she is guilty, it certainly appears, of engaging in a conspiracy to deny civil rights. 10 years in prison might do her good.

Merovign on October 2, 2010 at 5:48 PM

Somebody needs to let the Pollak campaign they need to make it a bit more of a no-brainer for us moron zombie tenther’s to send a few bucks to his campaign.

…which I was gladly trying to do.

…articulate and beautiful. And he sounds a lot like Jerry Seinfeld. What’s not to like here.

davisbr on October 2, 2010 at 6:02 PM

Let’s see…because the district leans Dem…next to impossible to unseat an un American, anti constitution socialist…has it really come to this????

winston on October 2, 2010 at 4:07 PM

Yes.

Midas on October 2, 2010 at 6:05 PM

Warren ‘Shaggy’ Schagowsky.

ZOIKS!

Lanceman on October 2, 2010 at 6:05 PM

For a short time I lived in a north suburb of Chicago, and this woman was my congressional representative. I shudder at the thought, now, and if she is unseated, I am going to break open a bottle of champagne!

JannyMae on October 2, 2010 at 6:07 PM

Joel Pollak was endorsed by super-lib Alan Dershowitz, too.

Abby Adams on October 2, 2010 at 4:12 PM

Dersho still has his flaming Leftist moments, like when he was absolutely convinced that Chimpy Bush “stole” the 2000 election, but has mellowed somewhat since that time. He was definitely mugged by 9/11.

Del Dolemonte on October 2, 2010 at 6:09 PM

If you like the Pollak-Pollak team on video, here is a recent offering from the PFC website:

http://www.pollakforcongress.com/flipmyride/

redneck hippie on October 2, 2010 at 6:12 PM

I know nothing about this woman. What I would like to know, is she one of the rich herself?

Little Nell on October 2, 2010 at 6:12 PM

For a short time I lived in a north suburb of Chicago, and this woman was my congressional representative. I shudder at the thought, now, and if she is unseated, I am going to break open a bottle of champagne!

JannyMae on October 2, 2010 at 6:07 PM

I lived in her district over the 2008 election. I’ll break out the Baileys if she loses. If both Schakowsky and Triple J(my current*spit* congress-thing)lose I may end up getting really buzzed!

annoyinglittletwerp on October 2, 2010 at 6:24 PM

She looks alcoholic and she could use a manicure. Other than that, she’s a worthless waste of skin.

Key West Reader on October 2, 2010 at 6:26 PM

I just wanna grab this woman by her pantsuit lapels and ask if she’s happy feeding the malaise of middle-class Americans who might be content if not constantly reminded by class-warfare jerks that they’re missing out–that the very existence of “the rich” is oppressing them.

How many lives have been consumed by class warfare? How many malcontent liberals refuse to count their blessings for casting a critical eye toward “the rich”?

Grace_is_sufficient on October 2, 2010 at 6:29 PM

I hope Miss Sh*tcowsky is happy about her desire to eliminate private insurers. My parents just lost their Medicare Advantage program here in Florida. They don’t know what to do or where to go, because all these companies are folding.

“They should be thanking me”
/BHO

Key West Reader on October 2, 2010 at 6:38 PM


Look at # 145

Schakowsky is on the run.

Please help me here in the PROI (Peoples Republik of Illinois).
Please donate to Pollack.

chicagotrauma on October 2, 2010 at 6:39 PM

Rep. Jan Schakowsky, who once argued that government should destroy the private health-insurance market, here laments the radical nature of Republicans with radio host Stephanie Miller. How are Republicans radical and extreme? Well, they quote ancient texts … like the Constitution! They talk about old heresies … like free people governing themselves! They’re all “tenthers” because Republicans believe the conspiracy theory that the founders added a mysterious Tenth Amendment to the Bill of Rights, and actually meant something by it!

I always wonder when I hear people such as Schakowsky as to just what country she THINKS she lives in, is a citizen and resident of. Because clearly she’s not in any relationship with the U.S.A., she’s someone who is living a life here while her awareness of where she is and who she is isn’t related to reality.

It is MIND BOGGLING that ANYONE such as Scharkowsky could be employed in our government and think as she does. She’s clearly anti-American. She doesn’t even believe in what the nation is and why.

Lourdes on October 2, 2010 at 6:42 PM

This woman should be impeached for her treasonous remarks.
It won’t happen now, because there are so many enemies of the Constitution holding the Majority right now.
Maybe after November 2, 2010 this kind of attitude can be addressed properly.

KMC1 on October 2, 2010 at 5:43 PM

Does anyone believe that Shakowski doesn’t have the resources to move to Cuba or North Korea? I mean, she hates everything about America and wants to to become a socialist dictatorship, well, I hate to go all “love it or leave it,” but if you’re that upset, maybe you should go, Jan.

We’d all be grateful. You can take Pete Stark.

Exit question – does she just live ideology as a total lifestyle, or does she actually believe the tenth amendment is just there to reduce whitespace in the Bill of Rights?

Merovign on October 2, 2010 at 5:45 PM

I completely agree with both of you…the woman doesn’t express ANYthing that is associated with (much moreso, supportive of) this nation called the U.S.A. As a private citizen, perhaps it’s O.K. to critique whatever (and most do) but as an elected official, Scharkowsky is beyond what I’d call even legitimate in office while making such statements as here, AND worse, in believing them as she does.

She’s not fit for public office and should be removed for incompetence, or for treason or whatever it takes: anything just get her out of government, altogether. She clearly hates the nation that is paying her salary and providing her with a job and there’s nothing about her that is suitable to serve any citizen, anywhere.

Lourdes on October 2, 2010 at 6:48 PM

The Democrat voters have no principles. They’ll vote for anyone who will give them other people’s money.

bayview on October 2, 2010 at 6:49 PM

And to think these thugs call us Nazi’s and Fascists, when it is they who seek to create a socialist America ruled by an elite class. The projection is so intense it is blinding.

Let’s not mince words, this woman is a Fascist, plain and simple.

DeathB4Tyranny on October 2, 2010 at 4:09 PM

Yes, exactly.

Lourdes on October 2, 2010 at 6:52 PM

yes I’m a proud 10ther

unseen on October 2, 2010 at 3:32 PM

Me too!

Kafir on October 2, 2010 at 7:07 PM

Look at # 145

Schakowsky is on the run.

Please help me here in the PROI (Peoples Republik of Illinois).
Please donate to Pollack.

chicagotrauma on October 2, 2010 at 6:39 PM

Illinois 2 isn’t on that list.

Grrrrrr.

annoyinglittletwerp on October 2, 2010 at 7:19 PM

Illinois 2 isn’t on that list.

Grrrrrr.

annoyinglittletwerp on October 2, 2010 at 7:19 PM

Isn’t Triple J going to run for mayor of Chicago?..:)

Dire Straits on October 2, 2010 at 7:23 PM

KMC1 on October 2, 2010 at 5:43 PM

Got your high 6…
This so called rep. speaks of the Constitution with utter comtempt…errrrr.

jerrytbg on October 2, 2010 at 7:30 PM

Isn’t Triple J going to run for mayor of Chicago?..:)

Dire Straits on October 2, 2010 at 7:23 PM

I think his ‘bimbo-eruption’ just took him out of consideration.
He may lose his district to redistricting anyway which would the probably put us in Bobby Rush’s or Luis Gutierrez’s domain.
by gosh if it’s a gerry-mandered district it’s gonna STAY gerry-mandered.

annoyinglittletwerp on October 2, 2010 at 7:32 PM

contempt…oops…damn that’s twice in less than a week

jerrytbg on October 2, 2010 at 7:32 PM

annoyinglittletwerp on October 2, 2010 at 7:32 PM

Woe is you either way..

Dire Straits on October 2, 2010 at 7:35 PM

yes I’m a proud 10ther

unseen on October 2, 2010 at 3:32 PM
Me too!

Kafir on October 2, 2010 at 7:07 PM

AND...anti 16th & 17ther…

jerrytbg on October 2, 2010 at 7:37 PM

Schakowsky is just your average marxist and her hubby creamer wrote the book about how progressives would get health care, the family has bad genes, mostly communist.

tim c on October 2, 2010 at 7:42 PM

I am so sick and tired of this class warfare. My lib sister yammers about the “evil rich” constantly. Her husband sells real estate. I ask her if she would rather her husband sell a house to a rich guy buying a million dollar home or a poor guy buying a $30K condo. She looks at me like I am speaking Chinese.

They. Just. Don’t. Get. It.

ctmom on October 2, 2010 at 7:50 PM

Illinois 2 isn’t on that list.

Grrrrrr.

annoyinglittletwerp on October 2, 2010 at 7:19 PM

I feel your pain. I used to live in Illinois 7 and my Rep was Danny Davis.

JannyMae on October 2, 2010 at 7:50 PM

I am so sick and tired of this class warfare. My lib sister yammers about the “evil rich” constantly. Her husband sells real estate. I ask her if she would rather her husband sell a house to a rich guy buying a million dollar home or a poor guy buying a $30K condo. She looks at me like I am speaking Chinese.

They. Just. Don’t. Get. It.

Why do you always fall for the class warfare argument? Before Bush lowered taxes to their present levels, the budget was actually balanced. It was Bush’s Treasury Secretary Paul O’neill who first opposed those tax cuts as excessive. O’neill, a former Alcoa CEO, commissioned a study which concluded that our current tax rates would lead to massive deficits. Alan Greenspan at the time also opposed the tax cuts, on the same grounds.

So are former Alcoa CEOs and Alan Greenspan clueless, while you’re the economic scholar who ‘gets it’?

bayam on October 2, 2010 at 8:10 PM

So are former Alcoa CEOs and Alan Greenspan clueless, while you’re the economic scholar who ‘gets it’?

bayam on October 2, 2010 at 8:10 PM

So, Bush’s “excessive” taxcuts ruined the “balanced budget” that never really existed in the first place? Not exactly.

educate yourself

JannyMae on October 2, 2010 at 8:23 PM

This Pollak guy sounds good. Young, very accomplished, Jewish and conservative. But it’s an uphill fight; he needs support. Nice synopsis at WS:

A young Republican's long-shot bid to unseat an entrenched liberal House member

DERSHOWITZ ENDORSES POLLAK

Pollak: Joe Lieberman is not a 'suicide bomber'

paul1149 on October 2, 2010 at 8:29 PM

JannyMae on October 2, 2010 at 8:23 PM

Great article, but don’t expect a progressive to understand all those numbers and arithmetic-type stuff. They consider a tax cut as ‘spending’.

slickwillie2001 on October 2, 2010 at 8:34 PM

It was Bush’s Treasury Secretary Paul O’neill who first opposed those tax cuts as excessive.

He’s an idiot, and you’re an idiot for not looking at what happened to tax revenues after the rate cuts.

Hint: the problem is spending, not revenue. We know how to increase revenue: cut rates. What no Congress has ever done is actually cut the GD spending.

Crawford on October 2, 2010 at 9:54 PM

Wow. You got to hand it to the Democrats. They sure know how to promote and perpetuate the “dumification” of their constituents.

Yeah, I made that word up, but it works.

Do you think I should have added the “b”?

pjean on October 2, 2010 at 11:11 PM

I did not know Schakowsky has a full beard until I saw the photo for the thread.

bayview on October 2, 2010 at 11:24 PM

10th-ers? Are you kidding me?

Mojave Mark on October 2, 2010 at 11:33 PM

He’s an idiot, and you’re an idiot for not looking at what happened to tax revenues after the rate cuts

Your belief in the miracle of tax cuts is based on an urban myth. Yes, tax cuts provide an immediate boost to tax revenues, but in the case of deep deficit spending, those gains are never sustainable. It’s why mainstream economists, executives (like O’Neil), and even Alan Greenspan, never supported the deep tax cuts.

It’s incredible that in the wake of modern America’s second worst economic disaster, some people don’t seem to have learned anything.

Anyone who argues that there was never a surplus under Clinton is splitting hears. The overall trend is more than clear.
http://oi51.tinypic.com/2100w1u.jpg

bayam on October 2, 2010 at 11:54 PM

Rich people do the hiring and investing and if we drive them to leave, to hide instead of spend their money, to close their businesses and go to work for somebody else, the country suffers!

The GOP should be blaring this loudly in a massive ad buy, but instead they sit on their hands and let “the rich” be demonized. They are letting the communists and the media turn it into a mantra that rich are rich because they stole it, are unethical, don’t care about the little guy! Are there bad rich? Yes, but there are more poor in prison, per capita, than rich! And the rich do care about the “little guy”: they employ them and make them middle class and give the opportunity to move up and, gasp, become rich!

We have to get that message out!

PastorJon on October 3, 2010 at 12:02 AM

Hint: the problem is spending, not revenue. We know how to increase revenue: cut rates. What no Congress has ever done is actually cut the GD spending.
Crawford on October 2, 2010 at 9:54 PM

Liberals are precisely as terrified by the idea of actually cutting government spending as any normal person is by the idea of the government taking over all remaining private property.

What we have to keep in mind is that there is no “misunderstanding” or “difference of opinion” here. Liberalism is a complete inversion of everything the United States Constitution stands for.

logis on October 3, 2010 at 12:05 AM

bayam on October 2, 2010 at 11:54 PM

Yes, lets show a chart that stops at the end of the recessions effects on the economy, on the year when unemployment started heading back down. Brilliant.

Oh, and the year the tax cuts were passed MEANING, they didn’t have an impact until 2004! And the deficit was going down until . ..

Lets not show the chart that shows the deficit shrinking and disappearing until . . . DEMOCRATS took control of both houses and started spending like drunken sailors!

And if deficits are a homicide, what OBAMA AND THE DEMOCRATS are doing now is GENOCIDE.

If your going to cherry pick your statistics, don’t show where you got them if they don’t support your assertions.

The deficit of 2001 – 2003 was caused by the internet bubble popping (remember that, your apple stock dropped) AND 9/11, not by tax cuts.

The average recession last 18 months. We are almost 3 years into it (despite what an economic council that didn’t take out government spending from GDP says). So what happened? Hundreds of new taxes and fees stuck in bills where Dems raised SPENDING by another 21% and the threat of more taxes to come. People AND businesses stop spending and prepare for more tax pain when that happens and the economy stalls!

The economy collapsed in 2007 because of the sub-prime mortgage crisis. Who created that? Bill Clinton, Harold Raines and Linsay Graham! And there’s no love for Graham in conservative circles, trust me. You can quote the registered Democrat Alan Greenspan all you want, but his “use interest rates to avoid the natural cycles in the economy” is part of the reason we are here too!

PastorJon on October 3, 2010 at 12:13 AM

The problem is that tax cutting conservatives keep getting outvoted by overspending democrats and RINO’s.

Oh, and Clinton balanced the budget by taking from SS and giving them IOUs, IOUs they are now having to cash in to pay for SS, increasing our deficit! It was like not counting the debt accumulating on the credit card you were paying your other debts with and passing it on.

Ending the Bush tax cuts, ignoring the Laffer curve, dems say will bring in 4 Trillion over the next 10 years. But at the current Obama/Congress budget levels, the deficit is slated to grow by $10 Trillion, counting the 3 trillion of his first two years in office. Where are we going to get $6 Trillion more dollars!

The spending has to stop.

PastorJon on October 3, 2010 at 12:19 AM

slickwillie2001 on October 2, 2010 at 8:34 PM

Thanks! I didn’t realize who/what(?) I was dealing with until I saw his “rebuttal.” Unbelievable.

JannyMae on October 3, 2010 at 12:26 AM

The economy collapsed in 2007 because of the sub-prime mortgage crisis. Who created that? Bill Clinton, Harold Raines and Linsay Graham! And there’s no love for Graham in conservative circles..

You can read a book about the cause of the crisis, such as Too Big To Fail or any number of analyses coming out of Wall Street. But no, sub-prime loans didn’t nearly cause capitalism as we know it to collapse. You’re repeating a myth. Not even Alan Greenspan, a Reagan disciple and libertarian, can buy into that story.

The average recession last 18 months. We are almost 3 years into it (despite what an economic council that didn’t take out government spending from GDP says). So what happened? Hundreds of new taxes and fees stuck in bills where Dems raised SPENDING by another 21% and the threat of more taxes to come.

I don’t know why you’re reciting the average length of a recession. This isn’t an ‘average’ economic event. Ask your neighbors why they stopped spending- it’s because of the combination of lower asset values (housing prices) and debt. If you read Barron’s, you’d know this is called a balance sheet recession. The economy was never going to recover after 18 months.

If you take out the stimulus bill intended to prevent the economy from falling off a cliff, Bush raised spending more than Obama and that didn’t kill the economy. You don’t seem to understand that deficit spending has a short-term stimulative effect, as it did under Bush for the many years that it kept the housing bubble economy alive.

And yes, you should be very afraid because during normal economic times, up to 2007, this country lowered taxes far below the level that mainstream economists and Wall Street experts like Alan Greenspan found acceptable, doubling the national debt and creating a $1 tril deficit. Given the clear need to raise taxes back to Clinton levels and enact deep spending cuts, you should be worried. If this country fails to take the tough medicine and balance the budget once the recession is over, things will end very badly.

bayam on October 3, 2010 at 2:26 AM

I like those first 10 Amendments… the Bill of Rights, securing the rights of the States and the people FROM the federal government.

Got some good words on the 14th making the States have to keep up with that so the people don’t get infringed via them, either.

The 16th and 17th need a redaction Amendment taken to them, big mistakes.

ajacksonian on October 3, 2010 at 6:25 AM

You really want to see the face of everything that is wrong with politics in Illinois these days?

Behold Rep. Jan Schakowsky, in all her faded glory!

pilamaye on October 3, 2010 at 7:59 AM

Wow! Mrs. Pollack is a great speaker for her husband – obviously intelligent, quite articulate, and very attractive. They make a lovely couple.

Jill1066 on October 2, 2010 at 3:22 PM

Oh yeah? Well Mr. Schakowsky…er, I mean Bobby Creamer, is a twice convicted felon, and they make quite the lovely couple too, so there!

MarkT on October 3, 2010 at 8:49 AM

I’ve said before:

“The only difference between conservative nut jobs and liberal nut jobs is that liberals elected their nut jobs to public office.”

locomotivebreath1901 on October 3, 2010 at 9:00 AM

Oh yeah? Well Mr. Schakowsky…er, I mean Bobby Creamer, is a twice convicted felon, and they make quite the lovely couple too, so there!

MarkT on October 3, 2010 at 8:49 AM

Well don’t expect anyone here to question her “character and rectitude” or her fitness for office. She’s liberal. We expect that.

gryphon202 on October 3, 2010 at 10:08 AM

IL-09 is a D+20 district

This being Chicago, it takes trash to represent trash.

Which would explain Mr. Robert “Schakowsky” and the whole machine of Democrat trash that circles around this felon.

Heh…seems the boy is a little snippy about being referred to as a thief. He did mean to pay the stolen money back…someday.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,579973,00.html

Yep. Fully quilified to represent your typical FIB.

MNHawk on October 3, 2010 at 11:05 AM

Great exposure of this wretched socialist, Ed. She is unknown outside of her district and enjoys her position almost solely because of the partisan machine Democrat support of people who don’t agree with anything she says. They happen to have their jobs because they are controlled by the Rich Daley/Mike Madigan Illinois Democrat mob, so they vote Dem.

It’s a coalition of scum: union thugs, union teachers, communists, socialists, race-victims, illegal aliens, and assorted leftists and anarchists.

Jaibones on October 3, 2010 at 2:19 PM

You know, re: bayam, nobody wants to waste any more time trying to educate the ignorant on economics, especially since it’s the same argument each one of us has had with delusional liberals every other damned week since the 70s.

But it would be nice if you figured out who in DC actually holds the purse strings before you vomit huge screeds onto discussion threads.

I will admit both sides do it sometimes, but it’s stupid no matter who does it.

I mean, it’s not the only thing bayam ALWAYS gets wrong, but it’s pretty basic and I think, at this point, less the result of ignorance than dissemblance.

Merovign on October 3, 2010 at 3:34 PM

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