Gloria Allred: I have the Social Security letter about Whitman’s maid — with her husband’s handwriting on it

posted at 5:40 pm on September 30, 2010 by Allahpundit

Via the boss emeritus, who’s not happy.

The Whitman household, contrary to the candidate’s flat denials, did in fact receive the red-flag letter six years ago. Contrary to Whitman campaign supporters’ insinuations that the maid stole the letter, she was apparently in legal, legitimate possession of it. Whitman’s husband gave it to her and passed the buck.

Will the campaign deny that Whitman’s husband’s handwriting is the real deal? Will they absolve Whitman by putting sole responsibility for the matter in her husband’s hands? Will they continue to harp on the maid’s fraudulent representation of her status in 2000, instead of dealing with the red flags [not just the no-match letter(s), but also the fact that Diaz-Santillan was banned from traveling back to Mexico] from 2003 onward?

You’ll find a PDF of the letter here, along with Allred’s observation that Nicky Diaz is the Rosa Parks of Latinas or something. Obviously there’s a question of whether the handwriting really does belong to Whitman’s husband, and at her own presser today (video of which you’ll find below), Whitman said she’s willing to take a polygraph if necessary to prove that she knew nothing about Diaz’s status until last year. It could be true: It’s not hard to imagine her husband going through a stack of bills, letters, etc, and glancing at the Social Security letter before deciding to just let Diaz deal with it. If so, that was negligent and negligence is no excuse, but it does suggest that Whitman’s not quite as culpable as Allred would have people believe. And as Whitman herself noted today, she started running for governor all the way back in February 2009 — five months before she fired Diaz. To repeat a point I made yesterday, if she had really known that Diaz was here illegally, wouldn’t she have unloaded her before the campaign to limit the political damage?

As for why she didn’t try to have Diaz deported:

Once she fired Diaz Santillan, Whitman said she told her senior campaign advisors about the matter but did not disclose it publicly because she did not want to turn the spotlight on the woman, whom she repeatedly described as a member of her “extended family.”

“I was not going to make an example of Nicky,” Whitman said, adding that this situation shows why the United States needs a temporary guest worker program and a reliable electronic method for employers to check the status of employees.

Whitman repeatedly refused to say whether Diaz Santillan should be deported, saying that was a matter for federal immigration authorities, and she acknowledged checking with her attorney to see if there was anything she could do to help legalize the woman. The attorney said no, at which point Whitman fired the housekeeper.

She’s doing the best she can here, obviously, not to lose Latino votes over this. Exit question: Is she going to lose votes over this? She fired the maid when she (allegedly) found out about her status and has been careful not to disparage her personally in talking about this. An election’s not going to turn on the fact of her husband’s negligence, is it?


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I agree with a previous poster that the jackass running against her would be well suited for Mexifornia.

rplat on September 30, 2010 at 6:18 PM

I’m still not impressed and not particularly impressed by Malkin either. I guess we’re all entitled to have moments to go Rove occasionally but the context here seems way out of proportion (a personal gripe versus Whitman ?). For Malkin not to realize she aids Brown’s campaign dirt-throwing, for whatever motivation, is unseemly.

The facts remain that Whitman let illegal Diaz go and Allred somehow has attained Whitman’s personal property. If Meg Whitman’s name is on the letter as addressee and Allred has possession of it without express permission of the addressee then to suggest that “the maid didn’t steal it” therefore it ain’t stolen is a red herring and a seedy diversion. If Whitman’s husband unwisely trusted Diaz and entrusted his wife’s letter to illegal Diaz than that is his misjudgment alone and hardly precludes that Whitman’s property rights have been compromised by Allred.

viking01 on September 30, 2010 at 6:18 PM

This whole thread misses an important point: the issue isn’t what Whitman knew or when she knew it. The point is that Allred only objective is to hobble Whitman before the election.

Remember that the initial allegation was that the maid was abused and maltreated. Allred isn’t talking about that anymore, she’s merely trying to discredit Whitman is a liar.

The abuse allegations were utter BS but they allowed Allred to set the Whitmans up.

landshark on September 30, 2010 at 6:19 PM

My mother-in-law believes the media hysteria on this. She believes Whitman deserves to lose if this is true . The damage has been done unless it can be proved this person is lying. It would be great just once to have one of these “revelations” so near an election come out against a Democrat. Wishful thinking on my part.

sandee on September 30, 2010 at 6:19 PM

This is going to hurt Gloria’s business. She will never be able to represent another allegedly discriminated employee fired on the basis of one of these letters. She is arguing that getting one of these letters is tantamount to being informed that your employee is illegal. I’m sure Brown will make up for this loss of business for her.

tommylotto on September 30, 2010 at 6:19 PM

Better question here is who put the maid and Allred in contact? Brownie’s oppo-research team should be the first suspect there. What was the maid promised in return for exposing herself to prosecution? Who is paying for Allred’s services?

slickwillie2001 on September 30, 2010 at 6:19 PM

OK, here’s my simple plan for compelling the media to lose all interest in this story – and, as a bonus, for compelling them to relentlessly mock those on the Left who push it.

We float the rumor that Whitman’s U.S. birth certificate is a fake to hide the fact that she was actually born Kenya.

FlameWarrior on September 30, 2010 at 6:20 PM

Sooooo…

… time for the Arizona Illigal Immigration Law in California?

If not, then why is this such a big deal?

Seven Percent Solution on September 30, 2010 at 6:20 PM

It’s an election play.

Whitman is mean to Hispanics and it alienates conservatives.

sharrukin on September 30, 2010

You know this just kills it for hiring future maids/domestic help that might have even a tiny possibility of being illegal. I doubt Hispanics like that.

JonPrichard on September 30, 2010 at 6:21 PM

Could someone explain to me like I’m a 5 year old what Allred’s perceived outcome of this is supposed to be?

Diaz to get amnesty? Civil lawsuit (can an illegal even do that)? Just making waves for the election?

If even the libs find this hinky – what the he!l is the point of this exercise?

tru2tx on September 30, 2010 at 6:15 PM

This whole exercise is for Gloria Allred to get face time on television. She’s a media whore of the worst sort. She inserted herself into the Octo-mom scandal… I think that says it all.

SPCOlympics on September 30, 2010 at 6:22 PM

You know this just kills it for hiring future maids/domestic help that might have even a tiny possibility of being illegal. I doubt Hispanics like that.

JonPrichard on September 30, 2010 at 6:21 PM

That will be the impact, but I doubt most have thought that far ahead. If they have they are probably voting Republican anyway.

sharrukin on September 30, 2010 at 6:22 PM

I agree. WTF is the story? I don’t get it.
That Whitman and her husband got a letter from SS administration? So what? That the family employed an illegal? hm, isn’t that what Democrats want us to do? Isn’t that what the day labor centers are all about?
Or is it that she fired the woman when she found out she was illegal? That seems like a Dem no no. Or was it that Rosa Parks jr. lied on her job application? or….you could go on and on.
The idiot that looks like the loser here is old Gloria.

ORconservative on September 30, 2010 at 6:24 PM

I have yet to meet a CA voter (D or R) who will alter vote one way or another because of this story.

lexhamfox on September 30, 2010 at 6:24 PM

What if she hired the maid from a Sancuary City?

DrAllecon on September 30, 2010 at 6:25 PM

…er Sanctuary City

DrAllecon on September 30, 2010 at 6:25 PM

This is a typical Democratic smear on a candidate that cleaned Moonbeam Brown’s clock at that debate a couple of days ago. It should get the attention it deserves — none.

If Whitman had masterminded the robbery of Ft. Knox (assuming that Congress has left anything of value there) she might lose my vote, but not for anything less — and in any case I would leave the vote for that particular race blank rather than vote for Brown. I was here when he was governor the last time

Do the words “colossal joke” have any meaning for you ?– because they are a perfect description of his previous governorship. There was a reason we called him “Moonbeam.”

‘Nuff said.

hachiban on September 30, 2010 at 6:28 PM

I’m still not impressed and not particularly impressed by Malkin either. I guess we’re all entitled to have moments to go Rove occasionally but the context here seems way out of proportion (a personal gripe versus Whitman ?). For Malkin not to realize she aids Brown’s campaign dirt-throwing, for whatever motivation, is unseemly….

viking01 on September 30, 2010 at 6:18 PM

Hilarious tag there, given that MM gave Karl Rove the name ‘Tokyo Rove’. So is Rove to COD as MM is to Whitman?

slickwillie2001 on September 30, 2010 at 6:28 PM

I have yet to meet a CA voter (D or R) who will alter vote one way or another because of this story.

lexhamfox on September 30, 2010 at 6:24 PM

It isn’t about changing votes. It’s about suppressing the vote from would-be Whitman voters so that the union/La Raza vote wins.

SPCOlympics on September 30, 2010 at 6:28 PM

this situation shows why the United States needs a temporary guest worker program

Sure, Meg, because there just aren’t any U.S. citizens or legal residents who’d be willing to work as a maid for $23 an hour, right?

There are plenty of citizens and legal residents working for minimum wage, but we need to import Mexicans to work jobs paying four times that.

AZCoyote on September 30, 2010 at 6:29 PM

I’m sorry, but if that’s a “smoking gun”, then I’m the Queen of England. People who don’t deal with the administrative side of running a business don’t understand that the Feds send you a boatload of “our records don’t….” notices all the time — one of which, IIRC, was found to be 80% inaccurate by the government itself.

They get a notice, it says to send the employee to take care of it, they do, the employee comes back and says, “it’s taken care of”, and they don’t get follow-up notices….. If this is a scandal, so is breathing.

cthulhu on September 30, 2010 at 6:31 PM

After just hearing Gloria on Hugh Hewitt almost come unglued I’ve figure out what her beef with Whitman is, and it is straight-up class warfare.

She was yelling at Hewitt for asking some basic questions about the law or how one should react when they find out they have been defrauded by an employee. She said (I’m paraphrasing here) “you’re just like Whitman! Rich, powerful, baaaaad!!!!) and then she hung up on him.

Bwuaaahahaha!

NTWR on September 30, 2010 at 6:37 PM

It isn’t about changing votes. It’s about suppressing the vote from would-be Whitman voters so that the union/La Raza vote wins.

SPCOlympics on September 30, 2010 at 6:28 PM

If I were in CA I’d vote for her anyway. Surely she doesn’t “deserve to lose” and LA RAZA and Brown and the donks “deserve to win” over this. Besides, which CEOs get so intimately involved with these details? She probably pushed this off on some underling….the husband handed the maid the letter, the maid denied it, he said “then deal with the error, Nicky” and then the forgot about it.

clnurnberg on September 30, 2010 at 6:40 PM

And this is a big deal why? Witman received a letter that said a simple records issue existed. Not shocking since SSA’s recordkeeping is shoddy. Moreover, the letter specifically stated that it “makes no statement about your employee’s immigration status.”

I’m more impressed that Witman attempted to follow the law when hiring personal help for her house.

Bru on September 30, 2010 at 6:41 PM

Gloria Allred: I have the Social Security letter about Whitman’s maid — with her husband’s handwriting on itShare posted at 5:40 pm on September 30, 2010 by Allahpundit
printer-friendly Via the boss emeritus, who’s not happy.
The Whitman household, contrary to the candidate’s flat denials, did in fact receive the red-flag letter six years ago. Contrary to Whitman campaign supporters’ insinuations that the maid stole the letter, she was apparently in legal, legitimate possession of it. Whitman’s husband gave it to her and passed the buck.
Will the campaign deny that Whitman’s husband’s handwriting is the real deal? Will they absolve Whitman by putting sole responsibility for the matter in her husband’s hands? Will they continue to harp on the maid’s fraudulent representation of her status in 2000, instead of dealing with the red flags [not just the no-match letter(s), but also the fact that Diaz-Santillan was banned from traveling back to Mexico] from 2003 onward?
You’ll find a PDF of the letter here, along with Allred’s observation that Nicky Diaz is the Rosa Parks of Latinas or something. Obviously there’s a question of whether the handwriting really does belong to Whitman’s husband, and at her own presser today (video of which you’ll find below), Whitman said she’s willing to take a polygraph if necessary to prove that she knew nothing about Diaz’s status until last year. It could be true: It’s not hard to imagine her husband going through a stack of bills, letters, etc, and glancing at the Social Security letter before deciding to just let Diaz deal with it. If so, that was negligent and negligence is no excuse, but it does suggest that Whitman’s not quite as culpable as Allred would have people believe. And as Whitman herself noted today, she started running for governor all the way back in February 2009 — five months before she fired Diaz. To repeat a point I made yesterday, if she had really known that Diaz was here illegally, wouldn’t she have unloaded her before the campaign to limit the political damage?
As for why she didn’t try to have Diaz deported:
Once she fired Diaz Santillan, Whitman said she told her senior campaign advisors about the matter but did not disclose it publicly because she did not want to turn the spotlight on the woman, whom she repeatedly described as a member of her “extended family.”
“I was not going to make an example of Nicky,” Whitman said, adding that this situation shows why the United States needs a temporary guest worker program and a reliable electronic method for employers to check the status of employees.
Whitman repeatedly refused to say whether Diaz Santillan should be deported, saying that was a matter for federal immigration authorities, and she acknowledged checking with her attorney to see if there was anything she could do to help legalize the woman. The attorney said no, at which point Whitman fired the housekeeper.
She’s doing the best she can here, obviously, not to lose Latino votes over this. Exit question: Is she going to lose votes over this? She fired the maid when she (allegedly) found out about her status and has been careful not to disparage her personally in talking about this. An election’s not going to turn on the fact of her husband’s negligence, is it?

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So, still 0 evidence that Whitman ever saw the letter?

Cool stuff.

Good Solid B-Plus on September 30, 2010 at 5:43 PM

Oh man.

But is it me, or does anyone elses spouse forget to tell you about important things (kind of like this)?

upinak on September 30, 2010 at 5:44 PM

From what I’ve heard, Allred claims the handwriting says “Take care of it”, addressed to the maid.

$10 says the maid took the letter and then lied to him, saying she cleared it up.

teke184 on September 30, 2010 at 5:45 PM

I thought I read somewhere that the sig was fake???

LurkerDood on September 30, 2010 at 5:45 PM

Aldred is a piece of s..t.She is a big Dem supporter. I’m sick of this crap of gotcha politics.

sandee on September 30, 2010 at 5:45 PM

Are the democraps going to say that the maid deserves amnesty? I don’t see how this helps the dems who won’t even pay lip service to virtue.

eaglewingz08 on September 30, 2010 at 5:46 PM

OK, just saw the PDF. Since it says “Nicky, please check on this”, it sounds like Whitman’s husband bought the “It’s a mistake!” story, gave the letter to the maid to fix, then either never followed up on it or was told “I fixed things” if he asked.

Still don’t see how this is Whitman’s problem if the maid is the one who was lying.

teke184 on September 30, 2010 at 5:47 PM

I am confused…who is running for office her or her husband? So what if her husband was stupid and told the maid to take care of it.
The question is: Did Meg know about it? And so far no proof that she did.
Megs answer: “That is why I am running and not my husband”…next question.

right2bright on September 30, 2010 at 5:47 PM

Hey Niki,
The Social Security administration says that there’s something wrong with your number. Please check this out and report back to me on the result.

or

Hey Hispanic person,
You must be a criminal, the Feds say that your SSN has a problem. I’m calling ICE immediately. They’re sure to arrest you and deport you.
You’re fired!

Oops, can fire her, Gloria Allred or some other high priced attorney will file a “wrongful termination suit”. Just because you got a letter from the Social Security Administration, that isn’t justification for ruining some minority (2 point) person’s life.

Damned if you do and damned if you don’t.

CrazyGene on September 30, 2010 at 5:47 PM

This is what is wrong with rep candidates….what we need are NORMAL folks who know what it is like to work within the system.

csdeven on September 30, 2010 at 5:47 PM

BTW:

I tried to interest Allred in the plight of a “mail order bride” who was abused etc. I got the giant brush off.

Gloria only plays for the gold.

CrazyGene on September 30, 2010 at 5:49 PM

It seems to me the reasoning for why Whitman acted wrongly keeps moving. Are they mad that she fired the woman for being illegal and didn’t deport her, or that she didn’t check the woman out sufficiently and hired her in the first place or that she’s being insensitive to a woman for being here illegally by firing her or that she’s a racist for hiring her in the first place or for letting her go…

I’m lost.

UnderstandingisPower on September 30, 2010 at 5:49 PM

Oh, I get it; there’s still no indication whatsoever that *she* – the one running for office – did nothing wrong.

There is ample evidence that the maid was a lying sack of excrement illegal immigrant.

There is also ample evidence that Gloria A is a politically bigoted attention whore.

This story should matter when *Mr* Whitman, Diaz, or Allred are running for office, and not until.

Next story, please.

Midas on September 30, 2010 at 5:49 PM

Hi,

If you get one of those “no-match” letters from Social Security and fire the person, you can be sued.

Give me a break…

patch on September 30, 2010 at 5:49 PM

Farking ‘rat distractions…

ornery_independent on September 30, 2010 at 5:49 PM

sorry…hate to repeat this but again, she could have sex with Satan on CNN with Keith Olberman watching and there is NO WAY ON THIS EARTH I ever vote for ‘RETURN OF GOVERNOR MOONBEAM”

SDarchitect on September 30, 2010 at 5:50 PM

Awww…give Diaz a break. She was just here doing the jobs Americans won’t do, i.e. giving Allred her 15 minutes of fame.

We’re at 14:30. Time’s almost up.

Chris of Rights on September 30, 2010 at 5:50 PM

what ? Allred has a letter with someone’s handwriting, not Whitman’s ? you know what she can do with that letter ? yes, that.

runner on September 30, 2010 at 5:50 PM

I’m not a fan of Whitman at all, but this is just stupid political theatrics and it’s going to backfire on the Democrats.

popularpeoplesfront on September 30, 2010 at 5:51 PM

Less convincing evidence than, say, Presidential genetic material on a blue cocktail dress.

VastRightWingConspirator on September 30, 2010 at 5:51 PM

I don’t care if Meg had an Illegal alien, butler, cook, houseboy, poolboy, nanny, gardener, and attorney. I’m not voting for moonbeam. This story matters not.

Kjeil on September 30, 2010 at 5:51 PM

I think most people see this for exactly what it is. People are tired of the routine and typcial democrat hit job just before an election. It’s all they do and it’s getting very old fast. I really don’t think anyone cares but Allred and Jerry Brown.

They keep playing from the Alinsky handbook but it just doesn’t work anymore.

darwin on September 30, 2010 at 5:51 PM

Exit question: Is she going to lose votes over this?
No, just judging from TMZ comments which are almost always libtard central, EVERYONE SMELLS Allred’s bullsh!t. They know it’s a scam. There is also no independent evidence that the writing on that letter is from Whitman’s husband.

Apologetic California on September 30, 2010 at 5:51 PM

I actually witnessed a similar situation to this with my own mother and our family cook (who wasn’t an illegal) but it was dealing with the cook’s withholding, which was beyond the ken of my widowed mother.
I can fully believe that this happened:

$10 says the maid took the letter and then lied to him, saying she cleared it up.

teke184 on September 30, 2010 at 5:45 PM
MM needs to cool her jets and give Whitman the benefit of the doubt.
As someone said on the other thread, since when do Democrats care about illegals having their papers?
Oh, yeah!
When they’re employed by Republican candidates, that’s when.

Jenfidel on September 30, 2010 at 5:52 PM

This is what is wrong with rep candidates….what we need are NORMAL folks who know what it is like to work within the system.

csdeven on September 30, 2010 at 5:47 PM
Like Christine O’Donnell who is a normal person, working within the system.

Sorry. Not buying it.

Look what they did to Joe the Plumber and Sarah Palin. If they want to destroy you, they will. If they have to make something up to do it or trump up a contrived story, they’ll do it.

They don’t CARE about Nicky or anyone else involved in this. They don’t CARE that it was her husband not her. They are throwing all of the spaghetti against the wall and hoping something sticks.

UnderstandingisPower on September 30, 2010 at 5:53 PM

She may lose some Hispanic voters, but they don’t typically vote anyway. She will gain from people who REALLY hate Allred.

kurtzz3 on September 30, 2010 at 5:53 PM

I’m still trying to figure out what the left is mad about… that she fired the maid? Or that she hired the maid?

BKeyser on September 30, 2010 at 5:53 PM

Earlier today Whitman said she would take a polygraph test — but Gloria says Nicky doesn’t have to take a polygraph test because she has the letter as proof, and “the evidence speaks for itself.”
Gee, what a surprise.

So hubby hands a letter to the maid 6 or 7 years ago and asks her to take care of it, and this means Whitman is lying?

I can’t remember what I had for dinner last month, much less what I might have done six years ago.

sharrukin on September 30, 2010 at 5:53 PM

Its not the illegal alien’s fault that she was undocumented.

/s

ornery_independent on September 30, 2010 at 5:53 PM

Eh, still too much that isn’t clear. Why did the maid keep all this paperwork, that’s the big question.

Bishop on September 30, 2010 at 5:53 PM

When the SSA sent the letters in 2003, the employee received a copy first and the employer got one 2 weeks later. Diaz was watching for it and took it before Whitman or her husband saw it.

AubieJon on September 30, 2010 at 5:54 PM

BTW, what people are judging is a glimpse on how Meg fares under pressure. She has been great so far. She went out there this morning and stoof for an hour answering uncensored press questions. She. nailed. every. question with aplomb. She didn’t stammer, hesitate, or anything like that. Meg knows her stuff. Right now, she’s holding another presser. http://www.tmz.com

Apologetic California on September 30, 2010 at 5:54 PM

+1000 she did great

windansea on September 30, 2010 at 6:42 PM

Meg is a victim of a criminal who is not only hear illegally, but committed identity theft, employment fraud and possibly theft of US Mail and interference with official federal communications. No wonder Allred thinks she’s a hero.

TheBigOldDog on September 30, 2010 at 6:42 PM

Again,

I could see where the maid was handed the letter, but told her employers that they had her mistaken for her illegal sister (not mentioning she is in fact the illegal sister). She was told to handle it, there was no follow up, and that, they assumed, was that.

Follow-up would have to come from one of two sources: The IRS or the person from whom she stole her identity. When you consider the sister was the source of the ID, the latter is extremely unlikely. The IRS does not seem to have followed up.

Sekhmet on September 30, 2010 at 6:42 PM

I guess according to a Lucianne.com blogger, an ad is already out in Spanish attacking Whitman on this.

sandee on September 30, 2010 at 6:43 PM

I agree with some of the other posters. The boss emeritus has been played.

There’s no “there” there.

It’s a non-story in search of conservative anger over trivialities instead of what’s important. Guess what? It found it.

I’m as anti illegal immigration as you can get. And even I can’t see (from the evidence presented so far) that Whitman has done anything wrong or even anything newsworthy.

Chris of Rights on September 30, 2010 at 6:43 PM

Malkin’s not happy? Uh oh…I guess? I still don’t see how this shows Whitman knew. And why wait until then to fire her if she knew she was running for governor? That makes no sense…the woman’s no fool, and she handled everything else, it seems, like any other person would.

This story just goes to show you that loyalty only goes so far when there’s a quick buck or a camera (or an election) to be had. Pathetic.

changer1701 on September 30, 2010 at 6:44 PM

Hmmmmmmm…..

Agency spokesman Mark Lassiter said that from 2003-2006 an employer had to have more than 10 employees whose Social Security numbers and names did not match to receive a warning letter. It was not immediately clear how many domestic employees Whitman had during that time.

“An employer with one or two employees in 2003 to 2006 would not have gotten an employer … letter,” Lassiter said.

right2bright on September 30, 2010 at 6:45 PM

Oh man.

But is it me, or does anyone elses spouse forget to tell you about important things (kind of like this)?

upinak on September 30, 2010 at 5:44 PM

As a matter of fact, I just returned from picking up the car at the brake shop. I like a dummy poured power steering fluid in the brake fluid pan. Nothing blew up immediately, so I assumed everything was OK. Then the brakes acted up when my husband was on the way to work. I nominate him for sainthood for not divorcing me then and there.

Sekhmet on September 30, 2010 at 6:45 PM

I guess according to a Lucianne.com blogger, an ad is already out in Spanish attacking Whitman on this.

sandee on September 30, 2010 at 6:43 PM

I don’t think Meg was getting the criminal alien vote anyway.

TheBigOldDog on September 30, 2010 at 6:46 PM

slickwillie2001 on September 30, 2010 at 6:28 PM

I’m pretty much saying that Malkin or her ego or perhaps ill will towards Whitman gets the better of her and she becomes a useful tool to Moonbeam and Allred. Whatever MM’s motivations are I’ll leave it for others to decide yet I find her choice of the phrase “Whitman household” particularly off-putting weasel words which are presumptuous and indecorous at best. Rove skipped a groove and starting snootily going off on someone he, literally, barely knows. I’d prefer not to see similar behavior repeated; especially when it plays to advantage of DNC dirty tricks.

Being in the Beltway too long has that highbrow effect on people, particularly journalists, where everything becomes viewed through the lens of political games and subterfuge.

viking01 on September 30, 2010 at 6:46 PM

Some relevant info.

cthulhu on September 30, 2010 at 6:47 PM

Can’t you just smell the smarm that Gloria exudes?

Yeah, I need a gas mask too.

44Magnum on September 30, 2010 at 6:47 PM

viking01 on September 30, 2010 at 6:18 PM

..to quote the Guinness commercials, “Brilliant!

The War Planner on September 30, 2010 at 6:47 PM

Sorry dudes but Malkin and some of these other immigration border watch “conservatives” need to drop the idea that we can have mass deportation or mass deportation by attrition, why else would they attack Whitman for her use of an illegal. I am willing to bet that 100% of all conservatives would fall into the illegal dilemma, where we used them but will renounce them as soon as the light shines on us. We just have be clear that we are for a return to rule of law, our stance doesn’t and should not be retroactive

conservador on September 30, 2010 at 6:49 PM

Questions ? if this isnt a smear then ALLRED is filing a lawsuit ?
2) Can we know add THEFT of government property ( the letter ) to NANNY NIKKI resume ?Surely they didnt hand her the letter and say hold on to this for safekeeping you might want to use it against us one day ?
3) How many FELONIES has this lady CONSPIRED and committed in relation to use false Social Security cards , filing false Income tax returns , etc ?
4) Isn’t this JUST the new way to get AMNESTY, via the AUNT Z pathway made famous by obama’s relative ?
5) Did MEG reply to the LETTER and NANNY stole it instead of mailing it as shewas instructed to do ?

ELMO Q on September 30, 2010 at 6:49 PM

I guess according to a Lucianne.com blogger, an ad is already out in Spanish attacking Whitman on this.

sandee on September 30, 2010 at 6:43 PM

Attacking Whitman for what – firing an illegal employee?That’s what is most confusing, I don’t understand what the maid’s beef is. She worked illegally for 9 years aking pretty good money. When her illegal status can out she got fired. What did she expect her employer to do? Whitman could have reported the woman to ICE.

katiejane on September 30, 2010 at 6:51 PM

I agree with some of the other posters. The boss emeritus has been played.

There’s no “there” there.
Chris of Rights on September 30, 2010 at 6:43 PM

If Malkin’s been hung out to dry, how do you think the SF Chronicle feels? They ran an editorial yesterday lambasting this as a cheap political stunt (yes, the San Francisco Chronicle) and denounced Allred. Can’t see them backtracking that much even after the revelation that Allred had the letter.

..but then again.

The War Planner on September 30, 2010 at 6:53 PM

I don’t care if she has 100 such letters. It isn’t enough to make me vote for Moonbeam.

crosspatch on September 30, 2010 at 6:55 PM

MY plan to get rid of them is simple
1) Announce that if you are an illegal and in this country and have filed a FALSE tax return OR didnt file a tax return ( you had to do one or the other ) accepted ANY form of assistance or used ANY health facility then you ate going to do a LONG STRETCH in federal prison
2)Allow AMNESTY days for them to show up at the border and be DEPORTED
3) POST a $2,000.00 bounty for EACH live illegal you report or bring in .
4) Require ALL money transfers out of the COUNTRY to be done in front of a LE official and the person MUST go a NCIS check
5) Offer ANY ILLEGAL that wants to help build the wall to show up at the border and work and be paid THEN DEPORTED
6) ALL people applying for BENEFITS must go through thorough background check and PROVE they are legal
WELL other than the medical bills that stupid people that stand to close to the border and get trampled by the massive rush to leave the country it should be good to go
OTHERWISE let’s free MADOFF and all the welfare scam artists , and other embezzlers as they have been racially DISCRIMINATED against

ELMO Q on September 30, 2010 at 6:56 PM

I went over to Debbie Schlussel’s site to see if she’s weighed in. Not yet. However, she’s blogging, as usual, about terrorists (specifically how Bush enabled terrorists). Great from Debbie on that as usual. It’s ironic they’re using Visas when all they have to do is cross the border from Mexico. Oh, wait!!!

SouthernGent on September 30, 2010 at 6:57 PM

katiejane on September 30, 2010 at 6:51 PM

I’m at a loss to what the point is. This Illegal woman was hired in good faith from an employment company, and she evidently lied about her status. A letter allegedly came in 2003 questioning her social security number. Whitmans husband allegedly wrote”take care of this Nikki.” Nikki keeps the letter for 6 years to what? Blackmail? What would her motive be? Something does not compute. What the hell is her grievance? She’s illegal, was found out in 2009 and was rightly fired because of it? This is insane!

sandee on September 30, 2010 at 6:57 PM

Megan Whitman did what I have done, and thousands of employers have done, and that is give the employee that benefit of the doubt and when their is knowledge that someone is illegal either you boot them or help them legalize. Why are “conservatives” attacking Whitman? That is stupid.

conservador on September 30, 2010 at 7:07 PM

The point here is not whether Whitman will lose votes or not, but an attempt to fire up the Latino vote to vote AGAINST Whitman. Also to depress the Republican vote.

RedRedRice on September 30, 2010 at 7:09 PM

I’m at a loss to what the point is. This Illegal woman was hired in good faith from an employment company, and she evidently lied about her status. A letter allegedly came in 2003 questioning her social security number. Whitmans husband allegedly wrote”take care of this Nikki.” Nikki keeps the letter for 6 years to what? Blackmail? What would her motive be? Something does not compute. What the hell is her grievance? She’s illegal, was found out in 2009 and was rightly fired because of it? This is insane!

sandee on September 30, 2010 at 6:57 PM

Bingo.. key for me is she had provided them docs showing she was a citizen. They trusted her and the documents to be valid. When the letter arrived, having faith she had not lied (no apparent reason to distrust)he simply passed along the letter, saying take care of it.

Now imagine if the letter arrived and they had simply fired her.. MW would have been racist.

The story should be they trusted her to be truthful and gave the woman the benefit of the doubt… she violated their trust, she lied, and is a criminal..

Yet because MW is a republican she is the bad person

amazing

theblacksheepwasright on September 30, 2010 at 7:10 PM

Nutmeg is an inept politician, a RINO and Mitt Romney’s alter ego.

If she was smart, when this came up a year ago she would’ve put some cash in Nicky’s pockets and made it worthwhile for her to return to Mexico.

Nutmeg’s positions make the Maine sisters look like DeMint. She supports the goals of the radical green initiative AB32, she opposes Prop 23, she opposes any new offshore drilling, she opposes AZ 1070, she flip-flopped shamelessly on immigration, she is pro-choice.

If elected, she would do all she could to ensure the nomination of her former boss and close friend, Mitt Romney.

Brown will destroy the state within a year. Nutmeg will do it in 2. Big difference.

Lou Budvis on September 30, 2010 at 7:12 PM

She’s doing the best she can here, obviously, not to lose Latino votes over this.

What if she is just telling the truth? Whether this will cause her to lose Latino votes is secondary.

Contrary to Allred’s assertions, the document Allred is waving around does not emphasize that discrepancies mean the worker is an undocumented/illegal. Indeed, it goes to great pains to imply that the errors could be typographical and so forth, and that using that letter to fire the employee could result in punitive action ‘in violation of state and federal law’.

It’s very possible that Harsh naively trusted Diaz and assumed the error was of a typographical nature (or maiden name/married name confusion). Whitman herself may have known nothing about this.

Buy Danish on September 30, 2010 at 7:12 PM

Allred will be on with Mark Levin at 7:30 Eastern, 4:30 Pacific (about 15 minutes from now).

KittyLowrey on September 30, 2010 at 7:14 PM

Can we deport them both?

RealMc on September 30, 2010 at 7:16 PM

So why is Allred bringing this up NOW? And what does she hope to gain by it? Besides the notoriety?

Can hardly wait to see what “crimes” Allred will “allege” on the part of Meg Whitman while TOTALLY discounting any crimes her client MAY HAVE committed.

GarandFan on September 30, 2010 at 7:20 PM

Isn’t there some kind of a postal law violation here?
I know it’s against the law to intercept a letter not meant for you and open it?
Does she have permission from Whitman to view this letter, Did Allred get a court order allowing her to use it as evidence?
Does she have permission from the IRS to have access to this piece of mail?
Maybe a criminal investigation is due here. Don’t the police have to get a court order to go thru you trash?

BruceB on September 30, 2010 at 7:31 PM

I’ll say it again – Ms. Diaz has broken 2 FEDERAL laws; one by falsifying a SS#, the other by perjuring herself by signing the INS form stating that she was in the country legally.

At the very least, she should be looking at time in a Federal facility. Who is paying Ms. Allred’s fees (‘cuz it sure as heck isn’t Ms. Diaz….)?

TeresainFortWorth on September 30, 2010 at 7:35 PM

Listening to Aldred. She’s a slime ball. She’s filling a suit because she worked over hours and she should have been payed for driving mileage. This is pathetic.

sandee on September 30, 2010 at 7:38 PM

sandee on September 30, 2010 at 7:38 PM

Same here. Alred’s an attorney? She sounds like a complete fool. Doesn’t answer questions, argues like a snotty child.

Cody1991 on September 30, 2010 at 7:43 PM

sandee on September 30, 2010 at 7:38 PM

On Mark Levin? Ha….. he has to keep lowering her volume!

He’s creaming the witch.

tru2tx on September 30, 2010 at 7:44 PM

Cody1991 on September 30, 2010 at 7:43 PM

So you’re listening to. I bet the other “attorney” is Jerry Brown.

sandee on September 30, 2010 at 7:45 PM

Oh man, you gotta be kidding me.
‘Nicky, please check this.’ So she did and says, ‘yeah, boss, it’s dope.’

This letter DOES NOT MEAN THE PERSON IS ILLEGAL, just that there is an administrative screw up.

Allred uses this to assert that Harsh and Whitman knew and continued to employ an ‘illegal because she was easier than a citizen to exploit’? What ‘exploitation’ occurred? Could Santillan not have just walked away from her lucrative job and felonious treatment?

Bal
Der
Dash.

TinMan13 on September 30, 2010 at 7:47 PM

WOW! What a scandal. Not!

They might even have to issue a statement to the effect that:
“Sorry, it appears we were wrong. We did in fact receive a notice that there was an issue with Nikki’s SS number seven years ago. While I am sure you can understand a detail of this type slipping our minds after that much time, perhaps we should have been more lawyer-like and said we did not ‘remember’ any such notice.

As is clear from the instructions in the letter, we were NOT at that point given a reason to terminate Nikki’s employment and were even warned against it.

From the writing the letter that Ms Allard has shown, it appears we were overly trusting to allow the woman we had known and had in our home for 3 years correct what we thought was a simple clerical error. As should be apparent from the state of the document, we did comply with the SSA request in filling out the information. It seems our mistake was in trusting Nikki to mail it for us. We are disappointed that our trust was broken this way. Nikki was a part of our household for almost a decade.”

OBQuiet on September 30, 2010 at 7:47 PM

This is painful to listen to her constant yapppppping and non-answers to Levin’s questions.

tru2tx on September 30, 2010 at 7:48 PM

Why is Michelle Malkin so hot on this non-story? Is there some personal reason she dislikes Meg Whitman?

bonnie_ on September 30, 2010 at 6:08 PM

Because she’s being intellectually honest and consistent? Foreign concept, I know.

SnarkVader on September 30, 2010 at 7:48 PM

So you’re listening to. I bet the other “attorney” is Jerry Brown.

sandee on September 30, 2010 at 7:45 PM

Probably so. Alred is really embarrassing herself. What an ignorant shrew.

Cody1991 on September 30, 2010 at 7:49 PM

Dang, they had to go to commercial. All I can say is Levin is cleaning her clock. I sure would hate to have Levin in a case against me!

sandee on September 30, 2010 at 7:49 PM

I can not believe people are going to make a big deal out of this. I mean come on….

Terrye on September 30, 2010 at 7:50 PM

When will the maid be arrested? She isn’t above the law is she?

tinkerthinker on September 30, 2010 at 7:50 PM

Whitman has money. I bet she could dig up the real story here. This is the most pathetic thing I’ve ever heard. Nice try Gloria. Big mistake going on Levin. I hope he releases the tape of this. She has certainly incriminated herself.

sandee on September 30, 2010 at 7:52 PM

Michelle Malkin has lost her mind, and she has become a shrill scold.

Chudi on September 30, 2010 at 7:53 PM

Whitman’s husband gave it to her and passed the buck.

It’s not hard to imagine her husband going through a stack of bills, letters, etc, and glancing at the Social Security letter before deciding to just let Diaz deal with it. If so, that was negligent and negligence is no excuse, but it does suggest that Whitman’s not quite as culpable as Allred would have people believe.

Isn’t the worker the one who’s supposed to clear up the issue with the government? If so, then giving the letter to Diaz would be the normal thing to do, and not at all negligent…

tom on September 30, 2010 at 7:54 PM

MM doesn’t like Whitman or Fiorina. They aren’t my first choice, but right now, here in California they are the best we can hope for.

sandee on September 30, 2010 at 7:56 PM

Chudi on September 30, 2010 at 7:53 PM

Michelle Malkin has more savvy and intelligence in her pinkie finger than you have in your entire brain.

technopeasant on September 30, 2010 at 7:57 PM

sandee on September 30, 2010 at 7:52 PM

Nicky Diaz is going to be sorry she wanted to be reimbursed for mileage. lol

She probably thought she could get some sort of out of court settlement. Instead, she may be deported.

Cody1991 on September 30, 2010 at 7:57 PM

Wow! That was great! Levin wiped the floor with her!

sandee on September 30, 2010 at 7:59 PM

I don’t understand what the maid’s beef is.

According to Allred, who is on Mark Levin right now, it’s about not getting paid mileage, lol.

xblade on September 30, 2010 at 7:59 PM

Michelle Malkin has lost her mind, and she has become a shrill scold.

Chudi on September 30, 2010 at 7:53 PM

You’re like a broken clock repeating the same thing over and over.

I don’t agree with her on this, but that in no way validates your constant silly pronouncements.

sharrukin on September 30, 2010 at 8:00 PM

Yesterday they told us that Diaz retrieved the letter from the trash. Today they show a letter that has Whitman’s husband’s handwriting on it. Are we to believe that Whitman’s husband wrote a note on it and then threw it in the trash for Diaz to retrieve? She’s either lying about where she got the letter, or it’s not the husband’s handwriting.

azkenreid on September 30, 2010 at 8:00 PM

Michelle Malkin has more savvy and intelligence in her pinkie finger than you have in your entire brain.

technopeasant on September 30, 2010 at 7:57 PM

She showed none here considering she reposted Allred’s version of the story uncritically. Saying that the no-match letter is “a red-flag” is utter BS considering that the letter says right there that the letter can’t be used to verify immigration status.

Apologetic California on September 30, 2010 at 8:00 PM

Meg Whitman’s husband is Dr. Griffith Rutherford Harsh IV. He’s a doctor. He doesn’t have time for paperwork!

Emperor Norton on September 30, 2010 at 8:01 PM

Wow! That was great! Levin wiped the floor with her!

sandee on September 30, 2010 at 7:59 PM

Yikes! It seems even if Meg is RINOish, this particular event has gotten everyone together.

Apologetic California on September 30, 2010 at 8:02 PM

Wow! That was great! Levin wiped the floor with her!

sandee on September 30, 2010 at 7:59 PM

Gloria is a typical lib. Levin asked specific questions, and she kept going off on tangents about him not liking housekeepers, “Oh, look! There’s a rabbit over there!”, Nicky isn’t an alien. She’s a human being.

Yadda, yadda, yadda, yadda……

Cody1991 on September 30, 2010 at 8:02 PM

When will the maid be arrested? She isn’t above the law is she?

tinkerthinker

According to Allred, because she was a housekeeper, she is. Who knew the law stated that forging social security numbers is illegal UNLESS you are a Latino maid in California, in which case it’s all good.

xblade on September 30, 2010 at 8:05 PM

Levin pointed out that it is against the law for a lawyer representing a person to expose or further expose that person to legal jeopardy through the actions of the lawyer, or something like that.

Allred certainly seems to have done that by advertising the fact that the maid is an illegal alien, has committed fraud and identity theft, possibly perjury in filling out forms, etc.

Allred also evaded questions from Levin re how the maid came into contact with her; all she would say is ‘another lawyer put us in touch’, which could mean anything.

slickwillie2001 on September 30, 2010 at 8:07 PM

It seems to me the reasoning for why Whitman acted wrongly keeps moving. Are they mad that she fired the woman for being illegal and didn’t deport her, or that she didn’t check the woman out sufficiently and hired her in the first place or that she’s being insensitive to a woman for being here illegally by firing her or that she’s a racist for hiring her in the first place or for letting her go…

I’m lost.

UnderstandingisPower on September 30, 2010 at 5:49 PM

Me too. I am glad I’m not the only one.

ProudPalinFan on September 30, 2010 at 8:09 PM

MM doesn’t like Whitman or Fiorina. They aren’t my first choice, but right now, here in California they are the best we can hope for.

sandee on September 30, 2010 at 7:56 PM

BFD. They didn’t pass Malkin’s Immigration Purity Test

She’s getting to be as bad as Debbie Schlussel on this issue. I know she wrote a book about it, but good grief, we are on our last chance now to save California and possibly America. And Malkin can’t seem to contain herself trying to blow up Meg Whitman with ridiculous hyperbole.

During the height of the economic boom you could not find non-Hispanic domestic help anywhere in California. Whitman did exactly what she was supposed to do! Instead of going down to the local bodega to recruit a maid and pay her 8 bucks an hour cash, she went to an agency, had the woman fill out a 14-page job application in which she verified she was a legal U.S. resident, and paid her $23 an hour. For THAT she is being crucified by conservatives???

rockmom on September 30, 2010 at 8:11 PM

Allred also evaded questions from Levin re how the maid came into contact with her; all she would say is ‘another lawyer put us in touch’, which could mean anything.

slickwillie2001 on September 30, 2010 at 8:07 PM

Betcha it was Bob Mulholland.

Mulholland gained national attention for his stunt in the United States Senate election in California, 1992. Four days before the election, when polls showed Bruce Herschensohn one point behind, Mulholland disrupted a Herschensohn appearance with a large poster advertising a strip club and shouting “Should the voters of California elect someone who frequently travels the strip joints of Hollywood?” Herschensohn admitted he had visited a strip club once, with his wife and another couple. But press coverage of his “frequenting” such establishment required him to spend the waning days of the campaign denying related allegations. Barbara Boxer won the election by five points. Mrs. Boxer denounced Mulholland, and then party chairman Phil Angelides suspended him from his job as the party’s political director. He was reinstated two weeks later.[3][4]

Sound familiar??

rockmom on September 30, 2010 at 8:13 PM

Was her husband negligent? I’ve read the content of the PDF provided by Allred and from what I can see, her husband did exactly what he was supposed to do — inform the employee of the problem so he/she can correct the problem.

The letter also states, if I read it correctly, that the employer should NOT assume that the employee is illegal because of the letter — it says that the letter is no inference as to whether the employee is legal or illegal.

As for even having received the letter, it’s an indication that someone was filing paperwork with the IRS — paying payroll taxes, etc.

The woman was treated by the Whitman’s as if she was legally entitled to work, and, indeed, was paid an excellent wage — and now she does this.

No good deed goes unpunished. Sad.

unclesmrgol on September 30, 2010 at 8:48 PM

It looks like Allred and Jerry Brown have studied Saul Allinsky’s, “The Rules for Radicals,” and they both should be given grades of A+ for their mastery of it….

DL13 on September 30, 2010 at 8:58 PM

rockmom on September 30, 2010 at 8:11 PM
Whitman did exactly what she was supposed to do! Instead of going down to the local bodega to recruit a maid and pay her 8 bucks an hour cash, she went to an agency, had the woman fill out a 14-page job application in which she verified she was a legal U.S. resident, and paid her $23 an hour. For THAT she is being crucified by conservatives???

Perplexing to say the least.

Buy Danish on September 30, 2010 at 9:18 PM

This is silly. She got the letter, therefore she is guilty. Well, having actually followed up on no match letters with the employer, some were resolved simply by the fact a number was transposed, a name was spelled incorrectly, a woman had not changed her social security card when she married, any number of legitimate reasons. Plus included in the no match letter is the warning to not use the no match as reason to fire employee. A no match letter is not proof of the person being in the US illegally.

Oleta on September 30, 2010 at 9:28 PM

Polygraph tests are meaningless.

Ortzinator on September 30, 2010 at 9:50 PM

When will the maid be arrested? She isn’t above the law is she?

tinkerthinker on September 30, 2010 at 7:50 PM

She’s an illegal, so the answer is yes, she is above the law.

silvernana on September 30, 2010 at 9:58 PM

Polygraph tests are meaningless.

Ortzinator on September 30, 2010 at 9:50 PM

No, they are about 80 to 85% accurate. Not something you want to use in court when a mans life is in the balance but otherwise somewhat useful.

sharrukin on September 30, 2010 at 9:58 PM

Gotta side with the general theory here… Wth is the big deal with the letter? I’ve read teh document a couple of times, and I dont see the bombshell.

Maid gives false SSN
SSA sends letter that says “Double check your SSN of your employee’ to the employer
Employer tells Maid to check to make sure it’s right..
Maid lies…

Michelle and the others blasting Whitman on this have seemingly gone loco for something that doesnt seem like a big deal at first glance.

DaSaintFan on October 1, 2010 at 12:55 AM

Allread is a shyster….. perfect for holding office in Congress.

ultracon on October 1, 2010 at 12:26 PM

Nobody has yet explained what Whitman or her husband actually did wrong.

Merovign on October 1, 2010 at 12:46 PM

BFD. They didn’t pass Malkin’s Immigration Purity Test

She’s getting to be as bad as Debbie Schlussel on this issue. I know she wrote a book about it, but good grief, we are on our last chance now to save California and possibly America. And Malkin can’t seem to contain herself trying to blow up Meg Whitman with ridiculous hyperbole.

rockmom on September 30, 2010 at 8:11 PM

LOL….ohhhhhh, so NOW you can overlook possible ethics problems, because this one is “electable”. I get it.

ddrintn on October 1, 2010 at 5:39 PM

Whitman has handled this just like I would want her to if I lived in Cali…I’d vote for her no doubt. $23 hr? and she was feeling abused? Mmmk. “the Nickys of the world” BETTER start following the law. And Gloria A is to the legal profession what Geraldo Rivera is to journalism. Just like you know what stories Geraldo will show up for, so too does Gloria A.

Minorcan Maven on October 1, 2010 at 10:27 PM

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