Stumbling into the recess with the “trifecta tribute to legislative collapse”

posted at 10:12 am on September 29, 2010 by Ed Morrissey

One of the presumed virtues of single-party governance in Washington is efficiency.  With one party in charge, especially with large majorities in both chambers of Congress, the lack of checks and balances from inter-party tension should at least result in getting more accomplished, especially on budgeting issues.  However, despite having historically large majorities, Politico reports that Democrats will limp into an early recess with a “trifecta tribute to legislative collapse”:

Eager to send Congress home, Democrats cleared the first Senate hurdles Tuesday toward enacting a stopgap spending bill that would keep the government operating through Dec. 3 with only modest adjustments for foreign policy appropriations.

Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), who holds most of the cards, is cooperating, but the gaping holes left in the budget process are the worst since Republicans briefly shut down the government in the mid-’90s.

Bear  in mind that the 1995 shutdown of the government came during a budget battle between a Democratic President and a Republican-controlled Congress.  In this case, it’s a Democratic Congress that can’t produce a budget, and barely can get a continuing resolution to pass as the fiscal year begins on Thursday.

Democrats want to blame Republicans for this debacle, but Republicans have little say in the issue.  Democrats, with 59 seats, have the greatest Senate majority in more than 30 years, going back to the 1977-79 session, where Democrats controlled 61 seats in the upper chamber.  Republicans managed to pass budgets on time during their entire six-year run of controlling both Congress and the White House from 2001-6 with much smaller majorities, even though in 2001 and 2002 the Senate actually switched hands a couple of times.

David Rogers also notes that the OMB nominee is getting his confirmation delayed by a hold from a Democratic Senator, Mary Landrieu:

With a new fiscal year beginning Friday, Oct. 1, no budget resolution has been approved, none of the 12 annual spending bills is even close to passage in Congress and no budget director is in place because of a hold imposed by one Senate Democrat.

It’s a trifecta tribute to legislative collapse — so much so that despairing Democratic aides darkly joke that it’s a plot to turn over the keys to the executive-driven deficit commission created by President Barack Obama earlier this year. That panel is to report its own budget recommendations Dec. 1 — just days before the stopgap spending bill runs out. And Congress is setting itself up for what could be a major fight over spending and tax policy in the immediate aftermath of the elections.

The attempt to shift responsibility for governance to the deficit commission is no joke.  That is its raison d’être — to give Democrats a fig leaf of deniability when it comes to cutting spending, raising taxes, and/or fundamentally altering Social Security.  It’s the one-armed man defense: I didn’t do it — the meanie deficit commission made us impose those policies! After a single season of having a total grip on power, the Democrats have utterly dissipated their intellectual capacity and their credibility to govern.  They’ve even dissipated their desire to govern, preferring to hand off the job to a panel of elites that will dictate terms to them — and us.


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despairing Democratic aides darkly joke that it’s a plot to turn over the keys to the executive-driven deficit commission

It is not a joke.

Vashta.Nerada on September 29, 2010 at 10:17 AM

Like I keep saying, this fall is less an election than it is an IQ test for the American people.

beatcanvas on September 29, 2010 at 10:17 AM

Please don’t refer to the Senate as the “upper” chamber.

Tres Angelas on September 29, 2010 at 10:17 AM

The Brave Sir Robin demorat party. How these fuds can stay competitive in any race is beyond me.

Bishop on September 29, 2010 at 10:17 AM

Also – prepare for the lame duck session to allow the Bush tax cuts to expire.

Vashta.Nerada on September 29, 2010 at 10:18 AM

After a single season of having a total grip on power, the Democrats have utterly dissipated their intellectual capacity and their credibility to govern. They’ve even dissipated their desire to govern, preferring to hand off the job to a panel of elites that will dictate terms to them — and us.

Would someone please educate me on the section of the Constitution that enumerates the powers of said “deficit commission?” I have my pocket Constitution here and going through Article I, the legislative branch, I am not seeing it. It is appearing that a constitutionally enumerated and delegated body is ceding its powers to another body who is not outlined in the Constitution.

ted c on September 29, 2010 at 10:19 AM

With this msm, the dems can blame the gop….the gop doesn’t fight back…..if they are, I haven’t seen it…

cmsinaz on September 29, 2010 at 10:21 AM

Would someone please educate me on the section of the Constitution that enumerates the powers of said “deficit commission?”

ted c on September 29, 2010 at 10:19 AM

I am sure there is some penumbra emanating from the commerce clause or the general welfare clause. One just needs to be nuanced enough to spot it in the shadows.

Vashta.Nerada on September 29, 2010 at 10:22 AM

The attempt to shift responsibility for governance to the deficit commission is no joke. That is its raison d’être — to give Democrats a fig leaf of deniability when it comes to cutting spending, raising taxes, and/or fundamentally altering Social Security.

It’s called abdicating your responsibility. Further, it is shifting an elected Congress’s responsibility to a presidentially appointed commission. This further cements power under Dear Liar. I won’t call it socialism, as The Whine seems particularly uninterested in running businesses, merely dictating to them. It’s called fascism.

Republicans hold no cards here, they cannot stop the budgetary process. That Democrats don’t want to do anything but turn their Constitutional responsibility over to the executive branch is nothing less than fascism.

rbj on September 29, 2010 at 10:23 AM

You whine about the government not getting things done yet you fail to mention GOP obstructionism as a contributing factor.

So typical.

Dave Rywall on September 29, 2010 at 10:27 AM

Vashta.Nerada on September 29, 2010 at 10:17 AM

Shouldn’t you be in a library somewhere?

Monkeytoe on September 29, 2010 at 10:29 AM

The question that should be asked of every Dem running for either the House or the Senate:
Your party has substantial majorities in both houses of Congress, yet you have failed to work on, much less pass, budgetary bills for FY2011. Why is that?

ya2daup on September 29, 2010 at 10:34 AM

You whine about the government not getting things done yet you fail to mention GOP obstructionism as a contributing factor.

So typical.

Dave Rywall on September 29, 2010 at 10:27 AM

That is completely untrue Dave. With budget reconciliation there is no filibuster. The Democrats control the three things needed to pass a budget: The House, The Senate, The Presidency. There is absolutely nothing the GOP can do to stop it. You are either woefully ignorant of our political process — in which case you should stop commenting on it — or you are an out and out liar. Which is it?

rbj on September 29, 2010 at 10:34 AM

Don’t forget that Congress also never managed to get around to extending ANY of the Bush tax cuts. I posted on my FB about this and somebody asked if I knew anyone who makes $250,000. I replied that I did not, but I did know people who make $34,550, and right now they’re facing an increase from 10% to 15%, thanks to Congressional inaction.

hawksruleva on September 29, 2010 at 10:35 AM

Dave Rywall on September 29, 2010 at 10:27 AM

You are an ass. The Democrats hold the majority of seats in both houses. The obstructions are theirs and theirs alone.

ya2daup on September 29, 2010 at 10:36 AM

They’ve even dissipated their desire to govern, preferring to hand off the job to a panel of elites that will dictate terms to them — and us.

This is the breakdown that happens when somehone who’s spent his entire life doing absolutely nothing but criticizing others for his lack of accomplishment suddenly finds he has no one left to blame but himself.

logis on September 29, 2010 at 10:38 AM

You whine about the government not getting things done yet you fail to mention GOP obstructionism as a contributing factor.

So typical.

Dave Rywall on September 29, 2010 at 10:27 AM

You might want to learn about our governmental system before you comment. The democrats in the house have a large majority, and budgets can be passed in the senate with 51 votes, therefore ‘GOP obstructionism’ is not an issue.

Vashta.Nerada on September 29, 2010 at 10:38 AM

Ya2daup, ain’t gonna happen with this msm….

cmsinaz on September 29, 2010 at 10:39 AM

You whine about the government not getting things done yet you fail to mention GOP obstructionism as a contributing factor.

So typical.

Dave Rywall on September 29, 2010 at 10:27 AM

So the Democrats are so inept that they can’t get a budget passed, even with their significant majorities? Previous Congresses have been able to overcome partisan division to agree on a budget.

It’s one thing to shout obstructionism when one party gets enough votes to block passage of legislation. But I haven’t even seen a budget proposal by the Democrats. How do you obstruct something that doesn’t exist?

It’s the same arguments on the Bush tax cuts. The Dems are saying that the GOP is holding them hostage, but we haven’t seen any votes on the issue. The Dems control the calendar, if they want to hold a vote on something, they can.

hawksruleva on September 29, 2010 at 10:39 AM

These people SHOULD NOT be collecting a paycheck!

GarandFan on September 29, 2010 at 10:40 AM

They’ve even dissipated their desire to govern, preferring to hand off the job to a panel of elites that will dictate terms to them — and us.

-Ed

Republicans hold no cards here, they cannot stop the budgetary process. That Democrats don’t want to do anything but turn their Constitutional responsibility over to the executive branch is nothing less than fascism.

rbj on September 29, 2010 at 10:23 AM

So, why exactly do we need a Congress? Just for show?

Extrafishy on September 29, 2010 at 10:41 AM

These leftist bums are ripping us off while simultaneously destroying this once great Republic. I hope the people send everyone of them packing this November lest we lose everything.

rplat on September 29, 2010 at 10:42 AM

Beware of foreign trolls.

NJ Red on September 29, 2010 at 10:42 AM

So, why exactly do we need a Congress? Just for show?

Extrafishy on September 29, 2010 at 10:41 AM

Yup. Heck, even North Korea has a legislative branch.

rbj on September 29, 2010 at 10:42 AM

You whine about the government not getting things done yet you fail to mention GOP obstructionism as a contributing factor.

So typical.

Dave Rywall on September 29, 2010 at 10:27 AM

Let’s say four of your friends are planning a bank heist and a bank where you work…they want to bring you in on the deal because you have inside knowledge. You decline as it goes against your morals and it’s illegal of course.

Did you obstruct their ability to rob the bank?

Ditkaca on September 29, 2010 at 10:42 AM

It’s the same arguments on the Bush tax cuts. The Dems are saying that the GOP is holding them hostage, but we haven’t seen any votes on the issue. The Dems control the calendar, if they want to hold a vote on something, they can.

hawksruleva on September 29, 2010 at 10:39 AM

The dem leaders won’t allow a vote on extending the tax cuts before the election, because they know it would pass.

Vashta.Nerada on September 29, 2010 at 10:43 AM

They don’t want a budget. Then we’d know just how much money they spent.

NJ Red on September 29, 2010 at 10:43 AM

You whine about the government not getting things done yet you fail to mention GOP obstructionism as a contributing factor.

So typical.

Dave Rywall on September 29, 2010 at 10:27 AM

Hey, stupid look at this.

Democrats want to blame Republicans for this debacle, but Republicans have little say in the issue. Democrats, with 59 seats, have the greatest Senate majority in more than 30 years, going back to the 1977-79 session, where Democrats controlled 61 seats in the upper chamber. Republicans managed to pass budgets on time during their entire six-year run of controlling both Congress and the White House from 2001-6 with much smaller majorities, even though in 2001 and 2002 the Senate actually switched hands a couple of times.

As we have seen with other bills in the House, their majority there is big enough that they could pass a budget through without a single Republican vote, if they wanted to. They want bi-partisan blame. If their agenda is so damn wonderful, they should be eager to pass it without any GOP votes and take every bit of the credit, especially since they are on the electoral chopping block in 40 some odd days. It ain’t quite working out like that, is it?

I wonder why.

Brian1972 on September 29, 2010 at 10:44 AM

See Dave Rywall. That’s what happens when you use Chrissy Matthews talking points. Republicans don’t have the numbers to block anything. It’s just MSNBC fails to point that out ’cause they can’t blame the Dem/Communists for anything. You have to be a Psycho Eddie Schultz fan too. Obviously no ability to discern truth in anything…See ya November 3rd, after Obama’s referendum…

adamsmith on September 29, 2010 at 10:44 AM

Priority 1 of Congress= BUDGET

If there is no action on priority 1, then all other priorities are set aside.

Alas, the “AGENDA” has taken over this circus of a Congress. They are going to reap what they’ve sown. The battle hammer is going to fall and an entire generation of democrats is going to be wiped out. Blood over the doorframe is not going to help them this time, the Angel of Political Death is going to conduct a harvest this fall….and it is going to hit both father and son and first born daughters. Reid will fall, Rory Reid also. Murkowski is gone. Feingold is done. It is already starting to swing and hit its mark….but it is only warming up…..

ted c on September 29, 2010 at 10:45 AM

“…the worst since Republicans briefly shut down the government in the mid-’90s.”

The Republicans didn’t shut down the government. It was a Clinton veto of the Appropriations bill sent him which shut down the government.

tommyboy on September 29, 2010 at 10:45 AM

You whine about the government not getting things done yet you fail to mention GOP obstructionism as a contributing factor.

So typical.

Dave Rywall on September 29, 2010 at 10:27 AM
So the Democrats are so inept that they can’t get a budget passed, even with their significant majorities? Previous Congresses have been able to overcome partisan division to agree on a budget.

It’s one thing to shout obstructionism when one party gets enough votes to block passage of legislation. But I haven’t even seen a budget proposal by the Democrats. How do you obstruct something that doesn’t exist?

It’s the same arguments on the Bush tax cuts. The Dems are saying that the GOP is holding them hostage, but we haven’t seen any votes on the issue. The Dems control the calendar, if they want to hold a vote on something, they can.

hawksruleva on September 29, 2010 at 10:39 AM

Anymore comments, Dave? Sheeeeeeeesh. Get a clue, take a class, or sit quietly, read, and learn!

capejasmine on September 29, 2010 at 10:46 AM

Would someone please educate me on the section of the Constitution that enumerates the powers of said “deficit commission?” I have my pocket Constitution here and going through Article I, the legislative branch, I am not seeing it. It is appearing that a constitutionally enumerated and delegated body is ceding its powers to another body who is not outlined in the Constitution.

ted c on September 29, 2010 at 10:19 AM

Do you have the new and improved chairman Obama’s little red constitution, the one with the unicorn on the cover. It is clearly in there under the Politburo section.

cobrakai99 on September 29, 2010 at 10:47 AM

You whine about the government not getting things done yet you fail to mention GOP obstructionism as a contributing factor.

So typical.

Dave Rywall on September 29, 2010 at 10:27 AM
Let’s say four of your friends are planning a bank heist and a bank where you work…they want to bring you in on the deal because you have inside knowledge. You decline as it goes against your morals and it’s illegal of course.

Did you obstruct their ability to rob the bank?

Ditkaca on September 29, 2010 at 10:42 AM

Probably tough to answer as you have to make the assumption that you have friends, morals, and a job

Ditkaca on September 29, 2010 at 10:47 AM

The attempt to shift responsibility for governance to the deficit commission is no joke. That is its raison d’être — to give Democrats a fig leaf of deniability when it comes to cutting spending, raising taxes, and/or fundamentally altering Social Security. It’s the one-armed man defense: I didn’t do it — the meanie deficit commission made us impose those policies! … They’ve even dissipated their desire to govern, preferring to hand off the job to a panel of elites that will dictate terms to them — and us.

If the Democrats try anything major in the lame-duck session, Senate Republicans should filibuster, then Boehner & Co. should IMMEDIATELY get to work in 2011 by extending all the Bush tax cuts and de-funding ObamaCare and not worrying about what the “deficit commission” says–who elected THEM?

Steve Z on September 29, 2010 at 10:47 AM

The Republicans didn’t shut down the government. It was a Clinton veto of the Appropriations bill sent him which shut down the government.

tommyboy on September 29, 2010 at 10:45 AM

Don’t you know anything? Newt shut down the government to starve evicted old ladies, and Bill Clinton balanced the budget and reformed welfare. /sarc

Brian1972 on September 29, 2010 at 10:48 AM

Do you have the new and improved chairman Obama’s little red constitution, the one with the unicorn on the cover. It is clearly in there under the Politburo section.

cobrakai99 on September 29, 2010 at 10:47 AM

is that the little book that’s dedicated to obama, for obama, and always Obama…? The one that on page 1 says, “I Won” and on page 2 says “The End”??

yeah, I wiped my a$$ with that thing this morning….over to you Dave.

ted c on September 29, 2010 at 10:50 AM

is that the little book that’s dedicated to obama, for obama, and always Obama…? The one that on page 1 says, “I Won” and on page 2 says “The End”??

yeah, I wiped my a$$ with that thing this morning….over to you Dave.

ted c on September 29, 2010 at 10:50 AM

That’s the one. It came with a free bag of skittles and a pack of smokes from Obama’s stash.

cobrakai99 on September 29, 2010 at 10:53 AM

yeah, I wiped my a$$ with that thing this morning….over to you Dave.

ted c on September 29, 2010 at 10:50 AM

Report to your local HopenChange re-education officer, immediately.

Bring a burlap sack, and a shovel.

Brian1972 on September 29, 2010 at 10:54 AM

That’s the one. It came with a free bag of skittles and a pack of smokes from Obama’s stash.

cobrakai99 on September 29, 2010 at 10:53 AM

they must have a variety, mine came with a little bag of dry koolaid mix and some crack rocks.

ted c on September 29, 2010 at 10:54 AM

Please don’t refer to the Senate as the “upper” chamber.

Tres Angelas on September 29, 2010 at 10:17 AM

How about ‘House of Lords’? That better suits their enormous egos.

slickwillie2001 on September 29, 2010 at 10:54 AM

Stumbling into the recess

Great. Now I’m going to have that Suzi Quatro song stuck in my head for the rest of the day.

Thanks, Ed!

UltimateBob on September 29, 2010 at 10:55 AM

Report to your local HopenChange re-education officer, immediately.

Bring a burlap sack, and a shovel.

Brian1972 on September 29, 2010 at 10:54 AM

already done dude. I dug the guy a hole, tied him in burlap and buried him ass up then tweeted his GPS location to Kevin Jennings…..

ted c on September 29, 2010 at 10:56 AM

Sung to tune of Barry McGuire’s Eve of Destruction

The political world, it is exploding
Teapots boilin’, ballots loadin’
You’re old enough to get health care, but not for votin’
You don’t believe in war, but what’s that blog you’re totin’
And even the Potomac River has new regulations floatin’

But you tell me
Over and over and over again, my Democrat pundit
Ah, you don’t believe
You’re on the eve
of destruction.

Don’t you understand what I’m tryin’ to say
Can’t you feel the fears I’m feelin’ today?
If the cap and trade is passed, there’s no runnin’ away
There’ll be no one to save, with the world in a grave
[Take a look around ya boy, it's bound to scare ya boy]

But you tell me
Over and over and over again, my Democrat pundit
Ah, you don’t believe
You’re on the eve
of destruction.

Yeah, my blood’s so mad feels like coagulatin’
I’m sitting here just contemplatin’
I can’t twist the truth, it knows no regulation.
Handful of senators don’t pass smart legislation
And marches alone can’t bring refudiation
When human respect is disintegratin’
This whole crazy world is just too frustratin’

But you tell me
Over and over and over again, my Democrat pundit
Ah, you don’t believe
You’re on the eve
of destruction.

Think of all the taxes there are in California
Then take a look around to Selma, Alabama
You may leave here for 4 days in space
But when you return, it’s the same old 39% rate
The poundin’ of the pundits, the pride and disgrace
You can bury your objectivity, but don’t leave a trace
Hate your next-door neighbor, but don’t forget to say grace
And… tell me over and over and over and over again, my Democrat friend
You don’t believe
you’re on the eve
Of destruction
Mm, no no, you don’t believe
you’re on the eve
of destruction.

Bradky on September 29, 2010 at 10:57 AM

The Brave Sir Robin demorat party. How these fuds can stay competitive in any race is beyond me.

Bishop on September 29, 2010 at 10:17 AM

I believe Senator Frankenstein recently provided us with the answer to that question.

UltimateBob on September 29, 2010 at 10:58 AM

Hmmmmmm……Is this “Deficit Commission” the same thing as the “Fiscal Responsibility Panel“? The one that Michelle Malkin also calls the “deficit panel“…the one that Imam Obama appointed Andy Stern to?

Could it be?

If so, that’s fantastic!

/s

ornery_independent on September 29, 2010 at 11:03 AM

Dave Rywall on September 29, 2010 at 10:27 AM

You are an ass. The Democrats hold the majority of seats in both houses. The obstructions are theirs and theirs alone.

ya2daup on September 29, 2010 at 10:36 AM
——-
Why don’t you go french kiss your buddy DeMint and then tell us about obstructionism.

Dave Rywall on September 29, 2010 at 11:06 AM

Why don’t you go french kiss your buddy DeMint and then tell us about obstructionism.

Dave Rywall on September 29, 2010 at 11:06 AM

Wow, what a cogent argument. Incredible point, made with facts and logic.

Why can’t you just admit that you are wrong on Republican obstructionism on the budget. The fact is the GOP has not blocked any bill, because there are no bills. Where are the Democrats’ budget plans?

You only come across as a fool here.

rbj on September 29, 2010 at 11:10 AM

Why don’t you go french kiss your buddy DeMint and then tell us about obstructionism.

Dave Rywall on September 29, 2010 at 11:06 AM
neener, neener, neener, I know you are but what am I?

sandee on September 29, 2010 at 11:17 AM

Hey Rywall….. loved the vid you did for your boy Barry:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oM8l3X_7Hkg

Liberal girly men are so cute when they cry, hiss, spit and call people names.

Cody1991 on September 29, 2010 at 11:23 AM

Have the Dems shut down the government?

faraway on September 29, 2010 at 11:24 AM

Why can’t you just admit that you are wrong on Republican obstructionism on the budget. The fact is the GOP has not blocked any bill, because there are no bills. Where are the Democrats’ budget plans?

You only come across as a fool here.

rbj on September 29, 2010 at 11:10 AM

Because he is a left wing hack. Wow, I am going to ace this test.

cobrakai99 on September 29, 2010 at 11:24 AM

OT, but what happened to Kasichs lead in Ohio?Anyone here from Ohio know what’s going on?

sandee on September 29, 2010 at 11:25 AM

OT, but what happened to Kasichs lead in Ohio?Anyone here from Ohio know what’s going on?

sandee on September 29, 2010 at 11:25 AM

Beats the hell ought of me. Of course I’m in Toledo which is a heavily Democratic & union town — also with double digit unemployment, falling home values and people fleeing for the suburbs (which are Republican).

rbj on September 29, 2010 at 11:29 AM

It’s too bad the “Dave Rywalls” of the world make up 90% of the MSM.

Metanis on September 29, 2010 at 11:40 AM

I had been a Republican all my life but changed to Independent during the last year of the Bush Admin.

I CAN’T UNDERSTAND WHAT IS WRONG WITH THE REPUBLICAN PARTY,
why aren’t they blasting out with everything they have that DEMOCRATS Have controlled the House and the senate since 2007, this only changed in the Senate 2009, when Repubs. got 41 in the Senate.

How can they just remain silent and not pound away at this fact, maybe they just like playing musical chairs.

I hope all Tea Party candidates win and shake up Washington and REALLY DRAIN THE SWAMP.

I am old but I would really like to see some young blood in Washington and people that think outside the box.

concernedsenior on September 29, 2010 at 11:54 AM

Please don’t refer to the Senate as the “upper” chamber.

Tres Angelas on September 29, 2010 at 10:17 AM

I recently found out why this term is used. It dates back to when Congress met at Constitution Hall in Philly. The Senate met on the 2nd (upper) floor, while the House met on the 1st (lower) floor. I think it’s actually kinda cool to still use a term from the time of our country’s infancy – despite the behavior of the current occupants of the chamber in question. It’s kinda like a soldier saluting the president because of respect for the office, even if he doesn’t respect the individual.

DOOF on September 29, 2010 at 11:57 AM

Why don’t you go french kiss your buddy DeMint and then tell us about obstructionism.

Dave Rywall on September 29, 2010 at 11:06 AM

Why don’t you give an actual example instead of just flailing about like a dumbass.

fossten on September 29, 2010 at 11:57 AM

Avid Drywall’s comments are getting a little more belligerent, rather than just stupid.

I hear he just got refused American citizenship and he is stuck in Canada forever, the lazy mans socialist paradise.

Dhuka on September 29, 2010 at 12:08 PM

It’s the one-armed man defense: I didn’t do it — the meanie deficit commission made us impose those policies! After a single season of having a total grip on power, the Democrats have utterly dissipated their intellectual capacity and their credibility to govern. They’ve even dissipated their desire to govern, preferring to hand off the job to a panel of elites that will dictate terms to them — and us.

..as we close in on The Day, Ed, your lilting prose in describing these matters lend delicious enjoyment to the schadenfreude.

Personally, I prefer the one-legged man defense
..

The War Planner on September 29, 2010 at 1:14 PM

You are either woefully ignorant of our political process — in which case you should stop commenting on it — or you are an out and out liar. Which is it?

rbj on September 29, 2010 at 10:34 AM

Why are you following Obama’s lead in arguments and giving me a needless false choice?

Clearly DRywall is both woefully ignorant on this and many other topics, AND and out and out liar. And that’s just a start.

Which is why he’s switched to personal attacks. He can’t show why the Democrats can’t get 218 votes when they control 257 votes in the House; or why they can’t get 51 votes in the Senate when they have 57 seats plus two “independents” who caucus with them in the Senate… and still show “obstructionism” as a contributing factor.

And maybe he’s a bit confused when Reconciliation can be used. Sure it’s only to be used for revenue related bills; but when they used it for Health Care, it may have confused the DRywall.

See Dave? Personal attacks AND actual factual information showing why you’re wrong… instead of just the personal attacks.

You could try this next time; but given the positions you generally take, finding factual information to support those positions could be exceedingly difficult.

gekkobear on September 29, 2010 at 1:39 PM

Gee, I guess Crywall ran home to mommy.

rbj on September 29, 2010 at 2:13 PM

Democrats have utterly dissipated their intellectual capacity

I have a folding chair here with more intellectual capacity than the entire Democrat Party.

NoDonkey on September 29, 2010 at 2:15 PM