Takeover: 71% of Republicans now tea-party supporters

posted at 8:38 pm on September 28, 2010 by Allahpundit

The other 29 percent are all invited to my next Beltway cocktail party. I kid, I kid.

In the survey, 71% of Republicans described themselves as tea-party supporters, saying they had a favorable image of the movement or hoped tea- party candidates would do well in the Nov. 2 elections…

The poll found that tea-party supporters make up one-third of the voters most likely to cast ballots in November’s midterm elections. This showed the movement “isn’t a small little segment, but it is a huge part of what’s driving 2010,” Mr. Hart said…

The tea party is a major driver of the so-called enthusiasm gap, with three-quarters of supporters saying they are intensely interested in the election…

Mr. McInturff said the tea-party movement had not necessarily drawn new people into the GOP. Rather, he said, “a substantial chunk of the Republican Party is rebranding themselves.”

Yeah, McInturff might be right on that last point. Check the crosstabs and you’ll see that the tea party’s overall favorable rating is only very marginally better than the GOP’s — 30/36, right around where it’s been for the past six months, as compared to 31/43 for the Republican Party. Elsewhere in the poll, though, 42 percent say that the tea party has been good for American politics versus just 18 percent who say it’s been bad. I’m not sure how to square that with the favorable numbers, unless maybe even some TP detractors think grassroots movements are good things per se even if they disagree with the particulars of a movement’s agenda.

Other tidbits? Although the GOP’s lead on the generic ballot has shrunk from nine points to just three as more Dems start tuning into the campaign, they still retain a double-digit lead among those who are “intensely interested” in November. Credit tea partiers for that. Bill Clinton is now/once again the most popular politician in America, enjoying a favorables split of 55/23 versus 47/41 for Obama. (They didn’t poll Hillary.) Count on Billy Jeff having a very busy schedule from now until November 2. And finally, the poll is gruesome for Palin, whose own favorables stand at 30/48. That -18 spread is 10 points better than Pelosi but actually one point worse than … Harry Reid. She also fares badly in a question posed by the Journal about certain outcomes from the November election that voters might find acceptable or not acceptable. The most acceptable outcome was seeing the influence of special interests reduced; the split on that was 70/14. The least acceptable outcome among the ones offered was seeing Palin become the leading spokesperson for the GOP. That split was 30/55 overall, notwithstanding the fact that she’s viewed favorably by two-thirds of tea partiers. If you’re wondering why David Plouffe is suddenly muttering about a “Beck-Palin-Limbaugh wing” of the GOP to anyone who’ll listen, that’s why.

Update: Jack Cafferty throws down the gauntlet.

Update: I neglected to mention one other intriguing data point from the crosstabs: The number who say Obama’s mostly responsible for the state of the economy as opposed to having inherited it from Bush is now at an all-time high — but it’s still at just 32 percent. Fully 56 percent remain in the “inherited” category, and yet the Democrats are facing a Republican tsunami anyway. Bear that in mind the next time someone tells you this election has nothing to do with anything except unemployment.


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By the way, crr6, you conveniently forgot to post other portions of your March 31 comment:

Yeah, a few things on this.
1) We’ll definitely lose seats, but I don’t think we’ll lose the House, or the Senate.
2) Even if we hadn’t passed the HCR bill, we would have lost seats anyway. The majority party nearly always loses seats in the midterm election after a presidential victory. Given our historic super-majorities, it’d be nearly impossible not to lose seats.
3) Even HCR caused us to lose the House and Senate, I’d be totally fine with that. I’ll gladly trade one measly election for the health care reform that we’ve been attempting to pass for nearly a half-century.

crr6 on March 31, 2010 at 6:18 PM

ddrintn on September 28, 2010 at 9:40 PM

Show me.

crr6 on September 28, 2010 at 9:28 PM

I will.

ddrintn on September 28, 2010 at 9:32 PM

In fact, I’m thinking it was in one of the earlier ObamaCare threads…have to narrow down the search terms…

ddrintn on September 28, 2010 at 9:34 PM

Ok. Remember, I posted something from March consistent with what I’ve said here. If you can’t find anything, I expect an admission that you’re wrong. I really doubt I ever said we won’t lose seats in the midterms because like BigWyo pointed out, it’s a historic scenario. It nearly always happens in the midterms after a presidential victory.

Anyways, I have to do some reading but I’ll check back in an hour or so.

crr6 on September 28, 2010 at 9:40 PM

The Delaware election has taught me one thing, and that is that moderate Republicans aren’t welcome in the “Beck – Palin – Limbaugh Wing” of the party anymore.

Vyce on September 28, 2010 at 9:29 PM

Now you know how conservatives have felt getting into line for moderate after moderate after moderate, for “the good of party unity”. Now that the shoe’s on the other foot, there’s this whining.

ddrintn on September 28, 2010 at 9:43 PM

Yeah, a few things on this.
1) We’ll definitely lose seats, but I don’t think we’ll lose the House, or the Senate.
2) Even if we hadn’t passed the HCR bill, we would have lost seats anyway. The majority party nearly always loses seats in the midterm election after a presidential victory. Given our historic super-majorities, it’d be nearly impossible not to lose seats.
3) Even HCR caused us to lose the House and Senate, I’d be totally fine with that. I’ll gladly trade one measly election for the health care reform that we’ve been attempting to pass for nearly a half-century.

crr6 on March 31, 2010 at 6:18 PM

Oh, wow.

The WAAAAAAYBACK machine.

How things have turned DOWN EVEN FURTHER for Team Blue these past six months.

Good Lt on September 28, 2010 at 9:43 PM

Ok. Remember, I posted something from March consistent with what I’ve said here. If you can’t find anything, I expect an admission that you’re wrong. I really doubt I ever said we won’t lose seats in the midterms because like BigWyo pointed out, it’s a historic scenario. It nearly always happens in the midterms after a presidential victory.

Anyways, I have to do some reading but I’ll check back in an hour or so.

crr6 on September 28, 2010 at 9:40 PM

No, you said you wouldn’t lose those historic super-majorities. Not merely a question of losing seats.

ddrintn on September 28, 2010 at 9:44 PM

3) Even HCR caused us to lose the House and Senate, I’d be totally fine with that. I’ll gladly trade one measly election for the health care reform that we’ve been attempting to pass for nearly a half-century.

Enjoy your time in the minority.

Good Lt on September 28, 2010 at 9:44 PM

It’ll take a looooong time for Americans to forget how much you f*cked shit up for 8 years.

crr6 on September 28, 2010 at 9:22 PM

HA!

And will the public remember, 4 or 8 years after 2012, just how bad the Democrats screwed up? I think not.

You’re giving the average voter way too much credit, crr6. The cold hard truth is most of America has the attention span of a hummingbird on Jolt.

Dark-Star on September 28, 2010 at 9:44 PM

Oh, wow.

The WAAAAAAYBACK machine.

How things have turned DOWN EVEN FURTHER for Team Blue these past six months.

Good Lt on September 28, 2010 at 9:43 PM

Weird, I would have highlighted this stuff..

Yeah, a few things on this.
1) We’ll definitely lose seats, but I don’t think we’ll lose the House, or the Senate.
2) Even if we hadn’t passed the HCR bill, we would have lost seats anyway. The majority party nearly always loses seats in the midterm election after a presidential victory. Given our historic super-majorities, it’d be nearly impossible not to lose seats.
3) Even HCR caused us to lose the House and Senate, I’d be totally fine with that. I’ll gladly trade one measly election for the health care reform that we’ve been attempting to pass for nearly a half-century.

crr6 on March 31, 2010 at 6:18 PM

And NOW I need to go read…

crr6 on September 28, 2010 at 9:45 PM

Hey! If you don’t like the TP, you can still be a Democrat.
Randy

williars on September 28, 2010 at 9:45 PM

I really doubt I ever said we won’t lose seats in the midterms …

crr6 on September 28, 2010 at 9:40 PM

That wasn’t the point. The majority was. Nice try.

ddrintn on September 28, 2010 at 9:47 PM

Good Lt on September 28, 2010 at 9:43 PM

crr6 still thinks cash 4 clunkers was successful, what else do you really want?

The admission from that post is “It’s cool if we pass stuff no one wants cuz -we’ve- wanted it.”

The narcissism is just wonderful. Authoritarians love doing things that make everyone miserable.

lorien1973 on September 28, 2010 at 9:47 PM

Enjoy your time in the minority.

Good Lt on September 28, 2010 at 9:44 PM

He’ll enjoy it greatly…because he’ll merely have to wait maybe two more election cycles tops before his party is back in power.

You ought to pay more attention to the people here who lament that the Democrats are pwning you in long-term thinking, because it’s true. Elections come and go – but major victories (for them) like Obamacare most certainly do not.

Dark-Star on September 28, 2010 at 9:47 PM

3) Even HCR caused us to lose the House and Senate, I’d be totally fine with that. I’ll gladly trade one measly election for the health care reform that we’ve been attempting to pass for nearly a half-century.

Enjoy your time in the minority.

Good Lt on September 28, 2010 at 9:44 PM

Oh well. That’s the natural spot for the moonbats anyway.

ddrintn on September 28, 2010 at 9:47 PM

And NOW I need to go read…

crr6 on September 28, 2010 at 9:45 PM

Remember when you claimed that you never said that Dems wouldn’t lose the House?

It’s funny because you’re a liar.

Good Solid B-Plus on September 28, 2010 at 9:48 PM

I’ll gladly trade one measly election for the health care reform that we’ve been attempting to pass for nearly a half-century.

Me too. Now that “health care reform” under control of the government has been shown to be an expensive fraud which had to be shoved down our throats, it can be shot down by the courts, defunded, whittled away to nothing, and Americans can put it to rest forever.

Sadly, sometimes it takes crazed liberals foisting their ruinous schemes upon us to realize how really bad they can be.

Bishop on September 28, 2010 at 9:49 PM

You ought to pay more attention to the people here who lament that the Democrats are pwning you in long-term thinking, because it’s true. Elections come and go – but major victories (for them) like Obamacare most certainly do not.

Dark-Star on September 28, 2010 at 9:47 PM

ObamaCare’s no victory. It’s an unsustainable clusterf***. You give the libs way too much credit as some sort of diabolical schemers, while ignoring the possibility that they may very well be idiots.

ddrintn on September 28, 2010 at 9:49 PM

3) Even HCR caused us to lose the House and Senate, I’d be totally fine with that. I’ll gladly trade one measly election for the health care reform that we’ve been attempting to pass for nearly a half-century.

Wait until it actually starts kicking in and driving people off of their freely-chosen coverage that was fine until Obama and your friends declared their health care plans “unacceptable.”

You clowns screwed the pooch this time, and you’re not getting the keys.

This isn’t about losing seats.

This is about realignment back to the right. For good.

And this bill will guarantee that will happen.

Enjoy your time in the minority while we repeal this piece of garbage. You’ve earned it.

Good Lt on September 28, 2010 at 9:50 PM

ObamaCare’s no victory. It’s an unsustainable clusterf***.

ddrintn on September 28, 2010 at 9:49 PM

Victory for them, unsustainable clusterf*** for the rest of us. Done nitpicking now?

Dark-Star on September 28, 2010 at 9:51 PM

Elections come and go – but major victories (for them) like Obamacare most certainly do not.

Dark-Star on September 28, 2010 at 9:47 PM

That’s stupid. The entitlement bombs are ticking. SS is already in the red and states are going bankrupt from the DC mandates. It’s unsustainable.

In the long run, you could better argue that Obamacare is a boon to the right, cuz it hastens the collapse of the welfare state.

lorien1973 on September 28, 2010 at 9:51 PM

ObamaCare’s no victory. It’s an unsustainable clusterf***.

ddrintn on September 28, 2010 at 9:49 PM

Victory for them, unsustainable clusterf*** for the rest of us. Done nitpicking now?

Dark-Star on September 28, 2010 at 9:51 PM

That’s not nitpicking. The more people realize what a clusterf*** it is, it’s a defeat. It can’t stand.

ddrintn on September 28, 2010 at 9:52 PM

lorien1973 on September 28, 2010 at 9:51 PM

To add, democrats complete inability to get the programs they claim to support under control is their ultimate downfall. They want a social net, but are totally unwilling to do anything to make it sustainable.

lorien1973 on September 28, 2010 at 9:52 PM

You ought to pay more attention to the people here who lament that the Democrats are pwning you in long-term thinking, because it’s true. Elections come and go – but major victories (for them) like Obamacare most certainly do not.

Dark-Star on September 28, 2010 at 9:47 PM

That’s why repealing it will be so delicious.

Because they fought so hard to shove it down everyone’s throat that it’s going right back up their backsides.

Good Lt on September 28, 2010 at 9:53 PM

This is about realignment back to the right. For good.

And this bill will guarantee that will happen.

Good Lt on September 28, 2010 at 9:50 PM

I’d like to agree with you – the nation’s ‘center’ could use a little shifting – but I have to say you’re taking a pretty optimistic stance.

Time will tell, I suppose.

Dark-Star on September 28, 2010 at 9:53 PM

Shhhhhh….

crr6 is reading. Keep it down.

Bishop on September 28, 2010 at 9:56 PM

Shhhhhh….

crr6 is reading. Keep it down.

Bishop on September 28, 2010 at 9:56 PM

Please do. We’ll all be thankful.

Dark-Star on September 28, 2010 at 9:57 PM

crr6 on September 28, 2010 at 8:47 PM

Yeah so?

And in November we’ll see how many Reagan democrats have abandoned Obozo’s trench line, won’t we?

We shall see what we shall see.

CPT. Charles on September 28, 2010 at 10:08 PM

Another thought.

The repubs inside the TP have NO LOVE for the CC Repubs.

Let’s see who ‘takes over’ whom.

CPT. Charles on September 28, 2010 at 10:11 PM

crr6 on September 28, 2010 at 9:40 PM

Yeh it has nothing to do with the pathetic Dems and Obama as it nearly always happens,/

Really after that type of campaign that brought in that loser ?

You are hilarious and a child to boot.

CWforFreedom on September 28, 2010 at 10:13 PM

Not to worry Dems your lazy voters are waking up……and then they have the 10/2/10 march and then some other Communist lovefest (the Jon Stewart/Colbert JACKASSFEST) on the Mall.

One small problem, will they be done cashing their checks by the 2nd or will they still be shopping (or at the casinos) with their entitlement checks from the FedGov?

CHANT IDEA FOR THE UNIONFEST on 10/2/10 march:
Destroyer
Destroyer
Destroyer of the U.S.A.
Destroyer
Destroyer
Barack Obama will have his way.

PappyD61 on September 28, 2010 at 10:21 PM

In the long run, you could better argue that Obamacare is a boon to the right, cuz it hastens the collapse of the welfare state.

lorien1973 on September 28, 2010 at 9:51 PM

Don’t know about this. According to this logic, every stupid left-wing law enacted is a victory for us, because eventually people will hopefully see how stupid it is and therefore support conservatives.

It more or less defines everything as a victory, making the word meaningless.

We don’t actually have any guarantee that this will hasten the collapse of the welfare state – if people genuinely think they cannot get by without their entitlements, then when push comes to shove, they will accept the necessary tax increases. The reason people reject Obamacare now is because they understand that it isn’t necessary – we already have a healthcare system that works for most people. 20 or 30 or 50 years from now, if it hasn’t been repealed, people who have grown up with Obamacare will be less willing to get rid of it – it will be something they’ve grown up with, like Social security and Medicare.

I’m not a big fan of this “Win by Losing” thinking. It’s strikingly similar to the “starve the beast” arguments about how if we just cut taxes and don’t worry about cutting spending, then eventually people will come to their senses and demand spending cuts. How’s that working for us? I’ve seen almost no one, other than Paul Ryan, willing to make any serious proposal to cut entitlements.

RINO in Name Only on September 28, 2010 at 10:23 PM

Not to worry Dems…….your voters are waking up from their pot induced stooper. Then after that they have this weekends’ MARXISTFEST at the Main mall on 10/2/10 and then JACKASSFEST with Colbert and Stewart the weekend before the election……

Here’s a chant idea for either of these festivals on the MALL:

Destroyer
Destroyer
Destroyer of the U.S.A.
Destroyer
Destroyer
Obama will have his way!!

Can’t you hear the mall ringing with the chants now?

PappyD61 on September 28, 2010 at 10:25 PM

I love when libs like crr tell us what is a “real” conservative Republican and what isn’t.

angryed on September 28, 2010 at 11:00 PM

Out: Grand Old Party
In: Government Of the People

Bruce MacMahon on September 28, 2010 at 11:00 PM

This poll grossly over counts Dem voters. Look at the crosstabs starting with page 21.

> More registered voter respondents cast ballots in the Dem primaries (33%) than in GOP primaries (28%) in a year where actual votes in GOP primaries massively outnumbered those in Dem primaries by the greatest margin since the 20s.

> Among 2008 voters respondents, Obama won by double digits over John McCain.

> Of those respondents who are working, professionals and managers (28%) almost match white collar (14%) and blue collar workers (18%) combined. Only 7% are unemployed and looking for work.

> 14% of respondents self identified as union members and another 8% came from a union household out of 32% who self identified as white or blue collar.

The NBC/WSJ numbers were pretty good. Imagine how much better they would be if not for the substantial Dem bias.

Bart DePalma on September 28, 2010 at 11:00 PM

The RNC recently did a “poll of donors”. I have the envelopes the “requests for money” came in.
There were five. One was Romney IIRC. Do not recall the second. The other three were all “Sarah Palin”.
HOPE others responded as I did.

No way will propaganda media chose my candidate again.

Caststeel on September 28, 2010 at 11:33 PM

No, you said you wouldn’t lose those historic super-majorities. Not merely a question of losing seats.

ddrintn on September 28, 2010 at 9:44 PM

I think we’ve both been shifting the goalposts here. You originally said:

Just a few months ago you were laughing at the prospects of a GOP takeover of the House.
ddrintn on September 28, 2010 at 9:11 PM

Now, I certainly never “laughed” at the prospect. I said I didn’t think it would happen, sure. But I said you would definitely gain seats, and that I wouldn’t be upset if we lost the House. That’s not “laughing at the prospect”

I took your post as implying that I had said we wouldn’t lose any seats, which is why I responded this way next:

I’ve always said you guys will pick up a sizable amount of seats. That always happens in the midterm election after a presidential victory (with the exception of the 9-11 induced anomaly of 2002).

crr6 on September 28, 2010 at 9:18 PM

Notice I did not say “I’ve never said we will lose the House” or anything like that. I’ve never said that anywhere in this thread. I just said “I’ve always said you guys will pick up seats.” Which is true.

So really, we’re both right and we’ve both sorta been talking past each other.

crr6 on September 28, 2010 at 11:35 PM

Remember when you claimed that you never said that Dems wouldn’t lose the House?

Good Solid B-Plus on September 28, 2010 at 9:48 PM

No, why don’t you post it?

crr6 on September 28, 2010 at 11:36 PM

This is about realignment back to the right. For good.

Good Lt on September 28, 2010 at 9:50 PM

Oh, and I seriously lol’d at this. One of the dumbest yet vaguely creepiest things I’ve seen from this guy. And that’s saying something.

Anyway, g’night.

crr6 on September 28, 2010 at 11:37 PM

As a particular Dirty Square Head Minnesotan once said ‘so says crr6, the perpetual law student’

Yer pretty much a laughing stock unless there’s some way to shoe horn some kind of COMMERCE CLAUSE bull$hit argument into the thread.

The graduating class of Upper Butt Crack School of Law salutes you!!

BigWyo on September 28, 2010 at 11:59 PM

Define “Sizable,” crr.

Because to me, “sizable” would certainly mean “enough to win the House back.”

Whereas your original point in March was “we’ll lose some seats because it always happens but we’ll keep the House.”

Of course, you were wrong; you’re going to lose the House, and I doubt it’ll be particularly close. That’ll be a fun night.

Good Solid B-Plus on September 29, 2010 at 12:01 AM

Good Solid B-Plus on September 29, 2010 at 12:01 AM

Sorry, but you must have misread my post. Again, where exactly did I say this…

Remember when you claimed that you never said that Dems wouldn’t lose the House?

Good Solid B-Plus on September 28, 2010 at 9:48 PM

Oh, I never said that? That’s funny. I guess you’re the liar, huh?

crr6 on September 29, 2010 at 12:06 AM

Of course, you were wrong; you’re going to lose the House, and I doubt it’ll be particularly close.

Good Solid B-Plus on September 29, 2010 at 12:01 AM

Oh, and this is a fun post to save.

crr6 on September 29, 2010 at 12:07 AM

1) We’ll definitely lose seats, but I don’t think we’ll lose the House, or the Senate.

crr6 on March 31, 2010 at 6:18 PM

Oh, I never said that? That’s funny. I guess you’re the liar, huh?

crr6 on September 29, 2010 at 12:06 AM

sharrukin on September 29, 2010 at 12:09 AM

sharrukin on September 29, 2010 at 12:09 AM

Hey, random wingnut! Read our exchange again, closely. Especially this part…

Remember when you claimed that you never said that Dems wouldn’t lose the House?

Good Solid B-Plus on September 28, 2010 at 9:48 PM

Get it now? Probably not, because you’re a moron.

Bye!

crr6 on September 29, 2010 at 12:13 AM

hmmm the WSJ/NBC come out with a poll….and people take the establishment pundits seriously?

Ok there…….

unseen on September 29, 2010 at 12:26 AM

Oh, and this is a fun post to save.

crr6 on September 29, 2010 at 12:07 AM

Oh I’m not worried, you won’t be anywhere near this site after the election returns come in.

When the shock wears off, I’m sure you’ll try to convince us that losing massive super-majorities is a good thing for the Democrats. That’s going to be a laugher.

Good Solid B-Plus on September 29, 2010 at 12:50 AM

Oh, I never said that? That’s funny. I guess you’re the liar, huh?

crr6 on September 29, 2010 at 12:06 AM

You said in this topic that you always claimed the Dem losses would be “Sizable.”

Which is, of course, a lie.

But that’s not surprising because, once again, you’re a liar.

Good Solid B-Plus on September 29, 2010 at 12:52 AM

The other 29 percent are all invited to my next Beltway cocktail party

We like cake too.

xax on September 29, 2010 at 12:54 AM

that I wouldn’t be upset if we lost the House.

crr6 on September 28, 2010 at 11:35 PM

Sure you will be, polyp. You’re just rationalizing an impending defeat.

Good Solid B-Plus on September 29, 2010 at 12:55 AM

Oh I’m not worried, you won’t be anywhere near this site after the election returns come in.

Good Solid B-Plus on September 29, 2010 at 12:50 AM

OH SNAPS!

You said in this topic that you always claimed the Dem losses would be “Sizable.”

Which is, of course, a lie.

Oh, ok. So that’s a lie. I thought the other thing was a lie? So now it isn’t?

But that’s not surprising because, once again, you’re a liar.

Good Solid B-Plus on September 29, 2010 at 12:52 AM

Yeesh, That didn’t work out so well for you last time you said it, like, 3 hours ago.

crr6 on September 29, 2010 at 1:01 AM

that I wouldn’t be upset if we lost the House.

crr6 on September 28, 2010 at 11:35 PM

Sure you will be, polyp. You’re just rationalizing an impending defeat.

Good Solid B-Plus on September 29, 2010 at 12:55 AM

…so I was rationalizing it 6 months ago? Whatever ya say, B+! I’m the liar, right?

; )

crr6 on September 29, 2010 at 1:02 AM

Get it now? Probably not, because you’re a moron.

Bye!

crr6 on September 29, 2010 at 12:13 AM

Awwww…yer dumb a$$ got caught lying…

are you still..like…really fat???

BigWyo on September 29, 2010 at 1:03 AM

…so I was rationalizing it 6 months ago? Whatever ya say, B+! I’m the liar, right?

; )

crr6 on September 29, 2010 at 1:02 AM

LibSpaz Translation:

Bye = I’ll lurk for an hour or so and then come back and pump out a horse turd that no one will read or reply to so I can slip into a self satisfied righteous slumber and not have those dreams that make me wet the bed….

BigWyo on September 29, 2010 at 1:10 AM

Looks like I’m too late for “whack-a-troll”… Pity…

Regarding the GOP supporting the Tea Party: better to support it NOW than get replaced by it within the next 10 years…

Khun Joe on September 29, 2010 at 1:18 AM

I’m a Republican moderate. The government should get out of everything. Abortion, the drug war, the economy, tobacco, alcohol, fire arms, and the whole rest of micro-managing America.

MSimon on September 29, 2010 at 5:35 AM

Now you know how conservatives have felt getting into line for moderate after moderate after moderate, for “the good of party unity”. Now that the shoe’s on the other foot, there’s this whining.

ddrintn on September 28, 2010 at 9:43 PM

hear hear!

cmsinaz on September 29, 2010 at 7:31 AM

Heh. This is like a long, sharp poll running up David Frum’s fat a–.

Jaibones on September 29, 2010 at 8:17 AM

The most acceptable outcome was seeing the influence of special interests reduced; the split on that was 70/14.

I love the demonization of “special interests”. Unions are special interests – they spend the most money of anyone in elections and own the dem party outright.

Senior citizens are “special interests” in their fight to keep SS from being reformed.

Welfare recipients are “special interests”

Farmers are “special interests”

Any segment of society is a special interest. so idiotic to be against “special interests”. Instead, the truth is that everyone is against someone else’s interest having any influence. For instance, liberals hate any businss lobby to have any influence. I personally think the unions influence has been incredibly destructive to american in the last 20 – 30 years. So I don’t like their influence.

Monkeytoe on September 29, 2010 at 8:49 AM

Love the graphic. : )

cjtony97 on September 29, 2010 at 9:10 AM

unless maybe even some TP detractors think grassroots movements are good things per se even if they disagree with the particulars of a movement’s agenda.

Duh.
Smear campaigns work and that is why some don’t want to identify with the TP even though they think the movement is a good idea.
No?
That is also what worked to get Sarah Palin’s numbers down and I will never forget which “conservatives” helped with that.

Mcguyver on September 29, 2010 at 11:16 AM

Go to the main WSJ page and look at the full poll. The numbers aren’t good for Palin.

Jimbo3 on September 29, 2010 at 11:34 AM

And finally, the poll is gruesome for Palin

Gruesome?

One beneficiary could be former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, who is viewed positively by about two-thirds of tea-party supporters, making her more popular in the movement than other potential presidential candidates included in the new survey.

Slight majorities of tea-party supporters also feel positively about former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee and former House Speaker Newt Gingrich. Just four in 10 feel positively about former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney.

I don’t think that word means what you think it means, allahpundit…

Yeah, I know. You dug into the crosstabs, she has “high unfavorables,” etc…

But, you have to win the Primary before you get to the General election. She’s very favorable among Tea Partiers, who are a big chunk of the GOP… which means she has a relatively clear path to the nomination, and if she runs & wins can then make her case to the electorate.

cs89 on September 29, 2010 at 11:59 AM

The least acceptable outcome among the ones offered was seeing Palin become the leading spokesperson for the GOP.

Oh, and allahpundit, could you point out the part of the poll that measured acceptability of Mitt Romney becoming the leading spokesperson?

Mike Huckabee?

Mitch Daniels?

etc…

I must have overlooked that part of the poll.

cs89 on September 29, 2010 at 12:07 PM

And finally, the poll is gruesome for Palin

Gruesome?

Yeah, leave it Allahpundit to bash Palin at every turn. Of course, this from the same guy who predicted Mark Sanford was our best bet in 2012.

This poll is actually good news for Palin. Her favorability among Tea Partiers is sky-high, far better than any of her potential challengers for the GOP nomination. Only intra-party figures matter at this point.

Norwegian on September 29, 2010 at 1:05 PM

And finally, the poll is gruesome for Palin
Gruesome?
Yeah, leave it Allahpundit to bash Palin at every turn. Of course, this from the same guy who predicted Mark Sanford was our best bet in 2012.

This poll is actually good news for Palin. Her favorability among Tea Partiers is sky-high, far better than any of her potential challengers for the GOP nomination. Only intra-party figures matter at this point.

Norwegian on September 29, 2010 at 1:05 PM

From the poll:

Sarah Palin becomes the leading spokesperson for
the Republican Party.

Total Acceptable(%): 30
Total Unacceptable(%): 55
Difference(%): -25

Jimbo3 on September 29, 2010 at 1:47 PM

Oh, and allahpundit, could you point out the part of the poll that measured acceptability of Mitt Romney becoming the leading spokesperson?

Mike Huckabee?

Mitch Daniels?

etc…

I must have overlooked that part of the poll.

cs89 on September 29, 2010 at 12:07 PM

Here are the overall favorables/unfavorables for Romney, Huckabee and Palin from the poll:

SUMMARY TABLE OF IMAGES – BY D/S (POSITIVE – NEGATIVE)
TOTAL
POSITIVE
TOTAL
NEGATIVE D/S
Bill Clinton 55 23 32
Barack Obama 47 41 6
Mike Huckabee 26 25 1
John Boehner 14 17 -3
The Democratic Party 37 42 -5
The Tea Party Movement 30 36 -6
Mitch McConnell 12 18 -6
Mitt Romney 21 30 -9
Newt Gingrich 24 35 -11
The Republican Party 31 43 -12
Harry Reid 15 32 -17
Sarah Palin 30 48 -18
Nancy Pelosi 22 50 -28
BP 12 50 -38

Jimbo3 on September 29, 2010 at 1:52 PM

The overall numbers in this poll is meaningless. Per the sample breakdown, it includes 13% more Obama voters than McCain voters. That’s double of what the election result in 2008; and nooone in the right mind believes Obama will double his numbers from 2008 to 2012.

From the actual story:

The movement’s greater strength within the party could be significant beyond 2010, as the party looks toward choosing a nominee in 2012 to challenge Mr. Obama.

One beneficiary could be former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, who is viewed positively by about two-thirds of tea-party supporters, making her more popular in the movement than other potential presidential candidates included in the new survey.

That’s all that matters.

Norwegian on September 29, 2010 at 2:26 PM

Jimbo3 on September 29, 2010 at 1:47 PM

Let me be Wikipedia clear-

The question wasn’t asked about anyone but Palin.

Why do you think that is?

cs89 on September 29, 2010 at 2:58 PM

To judge her support, cs89.

Jimbo3 on September 29, 2010 at 3:45 PM

Hers and no one else’s?

Seems to be a pretty obvious indicator, IMO.

cs89 on September 29, 2010 at 5:55 PM

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