Rolling Stone’s tongue-bath interview with President Obama
posted at 3:00 pm on September 28, 2010 by Ed Morrissey
I know, I know, it’s Rolling Stone – but even that has at least a modicum of journalistic credibility, such as their evisceration of Barack Obama’s response to the Gulf spill that was both informative and challenging. Of course, that story got written by a reporter. This interview got conducted by the boss, Jann Wenner, who obviously feels a need to intervene in Obama’s failing fortunes. And not with any subtlety, either, as the first question demonstrates:
When you came into office, you felt you would be able to work with the other side. When did you realize that the Republicans had abandoned any real effort to work with you and create bipartisan policy?
An answer comes after this question, which is rather amazing, considering how far Wenner had perched his head inside the President’s colon; it must have been difficult to hear it. Gee, Jann, could that moment have come when Nancy Pelosi locked Republicans out of the process of writing the very first bill Obama wanted, Porkulus? Or perhaps, when challenged on that, when Obama himself replied, “I won”? Lest anyone forgets, that moment came on Day 3 of the Obama presidency.
And then Obama proceeds to whine for three paragraphs about how Republicans wouldn’t support policies they have never supported, as if he suddenly paid attention to the GOP for the first time in his life on his first day as President. Obama also whines about the abuse of the filibuster despite the fact that Obama is the first President to ever have voted to filibuster a Supreme Court nominee.
Oh, and about the Gulf spill and the utter lack of response from Obama and the administration that Rolling Stone documented so well? Wenner skirts the entire issue by just asking why Ken Salazar hasn’t been fired for not reforming MMS before the spill:
Let me ask you about the Gulf oil spill. British Petroleum fired Tony Hayward, so my question is: Why does Interior Secretary Ken Salazar still have his job? The corruption at Minerals Management Service was widely known at the time he came into office, as was reported several times in Rolling Stone and other places, and that’s what helped the Gulf disaster to happen.
That’s the entirety of Wenner’s questions on the Gulf disaster and the documented incompetence shown by the Obama White House. It’s as if he didn’t read his own magazine. Imagine if Wenner had an exclusive interview with George Bush five months after Katrina and had only asked about Michael Brown being fired.
Frankly, that was enough for me, but The Corner has done a good job of picking out some of the more entertaining moments. Apparently, that silly war on Fox News is still on at the White House:
“You had folks like Hearst who used their newspapers very intentionally to promote their viewpoints. I think Fox is part of that tradition – it is part of the tradition that has a very clear, undeniable point of view,” Obama said.
Unsurprisingly, Obama called Fox’s voice “a point of view that I disagree with. It’s a point of view that I think is ultimately destructive for the long-term growth of a country that has a vibrant middle class and is competitive in the world.”
“But as an economic enterprise, it’s been wildly successful. And I suspect that if you ask Mr. Murdoch what his number one concern is, it’s that Fox is very successful.”
Obama takes a little more care about angering Tea Party activists, giving most of them grudging credit but reminding Wenner that it has “darker” aspects to it:
“I think the Tea Party is an amalgam, a mixed bag of a lot of different strains in American politics that have been there for a long time. There are some strong and sincere libertarians who are in the Tea Party who generally don’t believe in government intervention in the market or socially. There are some social conservatives in the Tea Party who are rejecting me the same way they rejected Bill Clinton, the same way they would reject any Democratic president as being too liberal or too progressive. There are strains in the Tea Party that are troubled by what they saw as a series of instances in which the middle-class and working-class people have been abused or hurt by special interests and Washington, but their anger is misdirected.
“And then there are probably some aspects of the Tea Party that are a little darker, that have to do with anti-immigrant sentiment or are troubled by what I represent as the president. So I think it’s hard to characterize the Tea Party as a whole, and I think it’s still defining itself.”
He didn’t seem quite so reticent about scolding his own supporters for their lack of enthusiasm, though:
“It is inexcusable for any Democrat or progressive right now to stand on the sidelines in this midterm election. There may be complaints about us not having gotten certain things done, not fast enough, making certain legislative compromises. But right now, we’ve got a choice between a Republican Party that has moved to the right of George Bush and is looking to lock in the same policies that got us into these disasters in the first place, versus an administration that, with some admitted warts, has been the most successful administration in a generation in moving progressive agendas forward.
“The idea that we’ve got a lack of enthusiasm in the Democratic base, that people are sitting on their hands complaining, is just irresponsible…It has been hard, and we’ve got some lumps to show for it. But if people now want to take their ball and go home, that tells me folks weren’t serious in the first place.”
Democrats will probably turn out, although not nearly as much as they did in 2008, but that’s to be expected. Midterms usually get lower turnouts. The problem isn’t so much the Democratic turnout as it is the Republican turnout, highly motivated as it is, and how the independents have abandoned Obama and the Democrats. All Obama can do now is hope to generate a base turnout that will do for him what Karl Rove engineered for George W. Bush in 2002 and 2004.
Will this interview improve Obama’s prospects, and that of his party, in the election? Doubtful. Rolling Stone aims at the base, not the independent voters, and the base will hardly be inspired by Obama’s negative incentive of Republican victory in their absence. Given that has been obvious for months, a presidential reminder is neither required or effective.
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i still dont believe she did this with out the concent of someone in the admin.
ChunkyLover on May 24, 2013 at 11:25 AM
HOLD THE PHONE!!!
I thought these were a couple of Rogue Agents at
WKRP in Cincy!!!!?????
Geez! Ya think we could TRUST our government!!
ToddPA on May 24, 2013 at 11:26 AM
just a couple of rouge agents.
rob verdi on May 24, 2013 at 11:27 AM
Any way to check if IRS targeted individuals for tax audits if they belonged to any conservative groups or registered as Republican voters.
Good thing Hot Air has anonymous names for people that comment…otherwise we would all be having our taxes audited…
albill on May 24, 2013 at 11:28 AM
But she said she did nothing wrong! I know that’s good enough for nonpartisan so it’s good enough for me.
LeftCoastRight on May 24, 2013 at 11:28 AM
I could see an incredibly liberal media claiming that this doesn’t prove anything bad about the White House and Obama – EXCEPT for the fact that the White House tried to LIE about this!!!!
How on earth can even an incredibly liberal media think that the lying about this was ok?
blink on May 24, 2013 at 11:28 AM
If these people don’t get a minimum of 10 years in an a55 pounding prison then every single conservative and otherwise decent American should march on Washington and DEMAND Obama’s resignation.
HotAirian on May 24, 2013 at 11:28 AM
I hope these phucking IRS lib-progs get phucked all the way around. And Congress or the courts damn well better compensate these groups and individuals for the expense of responding to this persecution.
The Obama administration is a phucking disgrace.
BuckeyeSam on May 24, 2013 at 11:30 AM
I plan on being audited next year when I tell them I dont have any health insurance and I dont plan on getting any.
ChunkyLover on May 24, 2013 at 11:30 AM
She apologized for the IRS in front of the National Bar Association…what else do you want..?
d1carter on May 24, 2013 at 11:30 AM
When are the investigations into the FEC going to begin?
oldroy on May 24, 2013 at 11:30 AM
It’s just what Steyn and others have said: if the government wants to get you, put you out of business, make your life not worth living, sap all your energy, time and money, etc., they don’t have to do anything illegal. They just bring a fraction of the rules and regulations of the executive branch against you, focused like a laser. Or more appropriately, like a magnifying glass focused on a line of ants on a sidewalk, on a sunny summer day.
“Gee, I was just examining the ants closely. I didn’t mean to vaporize them! Funny how that keeps happening…”
Marcola on May 24, 2013 at 11:31 AM
Isn’t that sort of what Hillary’s defense was regarding her signatures on various documents? That it was automatically placed on them and she didn’t know the content of all that paperwork. Lerner will plead ignorance(if she doesn’t plead the 5th).
Doughboy on May 24, 2013 at 11:32 AM
It’s worse that Les Nessman’s turkey drop.
https://www.google.com/search?q=les+nessman+turkeys&client=firefox-a&hs=3ka&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=5YefUdTKCOGkyQG044DQCg&ved=0CDoQsAQ&biw=986&bih=611
Meanwhile, everyone involved is claiming to be as clueless as the Big Guy.
BuckeyeSam on May 24, 2013 at 11:33 AM
Or, rogue agents wearing rouge? ;)
Marcola on May 24, 2013 at 11:33 AM
Quick Promote her!….wait…first give her a paid leave!
Mimzey on May 24, 2013 at 11:33 AM
daaaaaark mooooneyyyyy
Sounds like a dog whistle term, amirite?
The Schaef on May 24, 2013 at 11:33 AM
No one cares, Obama is awesome!
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_obama_job_approval-1044.html
dmann on May 24, 2013 at 11:34 AM
She only went to the WH for Easter egg rolls and Xmas tree lightings…
mjbrooks3 on May 24, 2013 at 11:34 AM
Listen, guys, just because the truth keeps evolving doesn’t mean we were trying to mislead you. We love the press, and we just LOVE Congressional oversight…
DublOh7 on May 24, 2013 at 11:34 AM
Response: I’m a top-flight manager. I sign a lot of things. I never read what I sign.
GarandFan on May 24, 2013 at 11:35 AM
… it’s a… it’s a… it’s a helicopter…. no parachute yet. Can’t be skydivers. Oh my God they’re turkeys!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lf3mgmEdfwg
Floriduh Jim on May 24, 2013 at 11:37 AM
Come on, oh baba don’t you want to go
Oh come on, oh baba don’t you want to go
Back to that same old place
Sweet home Chicago
portlandon on May 24, 2013 at 11:37 AM
and at the written request of several Democratic Senators like Carl Levin of MI who just yesterday with McCain asked for her head! of course they want her gone…but she won’t go without bringing a lot of politicians with her for sure.
gracie on May 24, 2013 at 11:38 AM
FREE SCOOTER LIBBY!!!!!
RandallinHerndon on May 24, 2013 at 11:41 AM
She was under orders to do this. It doesn’t stop with her. How high up does it go?
rbj on May 24, 2013 at 11:41 AM
Shulman, Miller, Lerner? Sorry to stereotype, but aren’t all three Jewish? Hanukkah and Passover celebrations, I’ll buy. But Easter and Christmas?
BuckeyeSam on May 24, 2013 at 11:43 AM
Obviously there’s a rogue computer in the IRS office that’s just sending crap out and dropping an image of Lois’s signature on it.
Happens all the time.
slickwillie2001 on May 24, 2013 at 11:45 AM
“My pen signed it, not me.”
fogw on May 24, 2013 at 11:45 AM
Maybe she just didn’t understand the complexity of the situation in the fog of war.
arnold ziffel on May 24, 2013 at 11:45 AM
Rouge autopen?
ElectricPhase on May 24, 2013 at 11:46 AM
SHOCKING!
gophergirl on May 24, 2013 at 11:46 AM
As God is my witness, I thought turkeys could fly.
AcidReflux on May 24, 2013 at 11:47 AM
Lois is “one of the ones we’ve been waiting for.” So is Holder and Clinton. The only surprise is how sloppy they’ve all become in their respective assignments.
LetsBfrank on May 24, 2013 at 11:49 AM
“Scheme”? That’s a perfect word for this. And they’d have got away with it too, if it weren’t for you meddling patriots!
KGB on May 24, 2013 at 11:50 AM
Regardless of the ongoing ‘I didn’t know what it was’ defense from Obama down the management chain, the fact is that Barack Obama appointed the heads of each of these federal agencies. The massive failures at those agencies are a direct result of the mismanagement of those federal agencies. Barack Obama is ultimately responsible for his own decisions in appointing the heads of those agencies, and he is also directly responsible for the management failures of those agencies. He is the chief executive of the executive branch of the federal governement. This responsibility is the nature of his job and clearly detailed in his job despcription.
For the LEFT to be trying to make the argument that the federal government has grown so large that it is unmanageable and that no one can be held responsible for the activities of the people employed in the running of the federal goverment is ridiculous. Managing those agencies and offices is exactly their job. Each one of them claimed to be highly qualified for the job, familiar with the demands the job woud entail, and eagerly accepted the position proclaiming that they would be able to do the job. It is exactly why each one of them was placed in the positions they have abused with such abandon, and it is the single best argument, not only for firing every one of them for their failure to perform effectively and efficiently, from Obama on down the chain of management, but also for not replacing most of them, thus eliminating the beaurocracy and seeing that those federal agencies DO run effectively and efficiently… to serve the American people equitably without preference or prejudice.
thatsafactjack on May 24, 2013 at 11:51 AM
This is Bush’s fault because he appointed Shulman in the first place…Nazi Pelosi told me so.
NJ Red on May 24, 2013 at 11:52 AM
Don’t worry. They can subpoena the IP information for all commenters and find us with that.
bigbeachbird on May 24, 2013 at 11:53 AM
The best part of this will be watching these tyrants expecting some sort of sympathy or leniency from an American public who already despises the IRS and views them as abusive. The culture of arrogance and intrusive behavior at the IRS should yield cattle cars full of future unemployed agents if not prisoners.
antipc on May 24, 2013 at 11:54 AM
Hundreds of Tea Party applications have STILL NOT BEEN APPROVED.
I guess Obama still doesn’t know about this.
faraway on May 24, 2013 at 12:03 PM
Only money from the right is tainted. Money from leftist is honorable.
Its going to be a glorious future komrades, GLORIOUS!!
jukin3 on May 24, 2013 at 12:04 PM
Standard procedure for Dems in Washington – sign it first, THEN find out what it says…..
dentarthurdent on May 24, 2013 at 12:04 PM
msdnc has their talking points
trumped up irs scandals…gop are desperate trying to link the scandal to dear leader
———————
wow, they are really doing their best deflecting any of this on the administration and still going with 2 rogue agents at an understaffed office in cincy…
unstinkinbelievable
cmsinaz on May 24, 2013 at 12:04 PM
every democrat save Zoe Lofgren and Bobby Scott during last week’s hearing have tried to make hay from that point. Why don’t they talk about the pressure Max Bachus put on Bush to place him there?
DanMan on May 24, 2013 at 12:06 PM
But they’re not really Jewish, Jewish so that allows them to celebrate Easter and Christmas.
chemman on May 24, 2013 at 12:07 PM
We haven’t had a ‘liberal media’ since 2006. The media are now simply left wing activists.
faraway on May 24, 2013 at 12:08 PM
Wild turkeys can fly. Let’s hope they fly out of the White House soon.
Steve Z on May 24, 2013 at 12:08 PM
Why in the world can’t someone in the house hold that lying harpy’s money? She does not need to get paid for refusing to resign!
L
letget on May 24, 2013 at 12:09 PM
Well, I’m pretty sure I didn’t find out my rogue computer was commenting here until I saw it on the news.
CJ on May 24, 2013 at 12:10 PM
Question for the legal experts: who can bring the felony charges? Does it have to be DOJ, or can some other entity file them? Until that happens it’s all just theater.
SomeCallMeJohn on May 24, 2013 at 12:11 PM
From now on, every Benghazi, IRS, AP Records, and James Rosen thread should prominently feature humpbot… seriously… the hole just keeps getting deeper and deeper…
WordsMatter on May 24, 2013 at 12:17 PM
Speaking of Krap and Nessman, has anyone seen any posts here by lester recently?
Del Dolemonte on May 24, 2013 at 12:18 PM
Once saw one take off and fly 40 feet up in the air to a pine tree branch. Amazing stuff.
Del Dolemonte on May 24, 2013 at 12:19 PM
That doesn’t answer the question why only conservative groups were put to the test while the Barak H. Obama Foundation was fast-tracked by Lerner with apparently zero scrutiny unless Malik Obama is tiny- the address given turns out to be a PO Box.
Happy Nomad on May 24, 2013 at 12:22 PM
This says it best:
Obama started this in the 2008 PRIMARY and hasn’t stopped yet.
From that article:
fred5678 on May 24, 2013 at 12:25 PM
I saw Cincy Fox report of org chart from Lerner down….anyone know what it is from Lerner UP?
hillsoftx on May 24, 2013 at 12:25 PM
As Strassel makes clear in her Journal piece, these intimidation tactics began right away with the Obama administration and didn’t stop until just two weeks ago. They transcend the IRS, involving virtually every agency that has police powers. The object consistently was to suppress political speech and intimidate donors and opposing activists. The Obama people were EXPLICIT about their goals here.
A prosecutor is the only way out of this mess, and for the sake of the Republic i hope to see even Democrats themselves will shortly start saying so. Heck, another couple of weeks of this sort of publicity and Hilary Clinton will be one of those.
MTF on May 24, 2013 at 12:29 PM
‘Toons of the Day: Memories & A Memorial
Resist We Much on May 24, 2013 at 12:48 PM
Here is Lerner demanding to know the content of her victim’s prayers:
http://www.examiner.com/article/pattern-of-abuse-lois-lerner-s-fec-grilled-oliver-north-about-prayer
This woman really has no place in America. She is a disgrace.
pat on May 24, 2013 at 12:54 PM
Hey, what’s all this talk about rogues?
The Rogue Tomato on May 24, 2013 at 1:11 PM
If they could use this defense, they would already have brought it out.
AesopFan on May 24, 2013 at 1:31 PM
Where does she live?
I’d like to ask her a few questions.
III/0317
dirtengineer on May 24, 2013 at 1:33 PM
They certainly should have red faces. But to the lefty government toadie in the IRS, RED is their favorite color anyway. And they’d never be ashamed of what they did. I think that they want to proudly proclaim how they beat us through any means necessary. Its their creedo.
But I see what you did there.
44Magnum on May 24, 2013 at 1:41 PM
Yowza!…
“True the Vote is not only suing the IRS, but also taking action against the IRS employees who participated in the harassment of the voter education and election monitoring organization. Those employees could personally be held liable to pay damages that would be established in litigation.
True the Votes’ lead counsel, Cleta Mitchell, explained in an email to The Daily Caller that she does not know whether the employees, if found to be liable in the lawsuit True the Vote filed against the IRS and its employees Tuesday, would pay out of pocket or take other avenues such as accessing union funds or homeowners insurance. Either way, she noted, the group will pursue its action…”
Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/05/23/conservative-groups-lawsuit-targets-irs-employees-personally/#ixzz2UEXMpy76
workingclass artist on May 24, 2013 at 1:49 PM
Did somebody say Humpbot?
http://tinyurl.com/LerLoHump
jmad on May 24, 2013 at 2:05 PM
Now that Ms. Lerner has been fired for all intents and purposes, her overt criminal activity guised as government requisites should be fully adjudicated. Personal “tort” damages must be propounded upon Ms. Lerner separately at this time as well as the others known or unknown then we will allow you specifically Mr. Lerner to spend the rest of your days singled out as the pariah you were and are to the United States of America.
Ms. Lerner, since you have ruined countless lives at your very whim, raise your right hand biatch, for your swearing in and yes that means under GOD.
Tangerinesong on May 24, 2013 at 3:12 PM
YES!!! This is a question no one is asking!
(except you and me :) )
cptacek on May 24, 2013 at 3:30 PM
Could her signature really just have been a stamp? Or printed out on the color copier?
cptacek on May 24, 2013 at 3:30 PM