Exclusive: EPW report shows new EPA rules will cost more than 800,000 jobs

posted at 8:45 am on September 28, 2010 by Ed Morrissey

Actually, it’s not just the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee’s minority contingent that fears the loss of nearly a million jobs from new EPA rules on greenhouse gases and other emissions issues.  It’s also groups like the United Steel Workers, Unions for Jobs and the Environment, and experts like King’s College Professor Ragnar Lofstedt.  Hot Air got an exclusive look at a report that the EPW minority staff will release later this morning detailing the economic damage that an activist EPA will do to the American economy, and which will come at perhaps the worst possible time, both economically and politically.

The executive summary spells out the stakes involved in the effort to rein in the EPA:

  • New standards for commercial and industrial boilers: up to 798,250 jobs at risk;
  • The revised National Ambient Air Quality Standard for ozone: severe restrictions on job creation and business expansion in hundreds of counties nationwide.
  • New standards for Portland Cement plants: up to 18 cement plants at risk of shutting down, threatening nearly 1,800 direct jobs and 9,000 indirect jobs;
  • The Endangerment Finding/Tailoring Rules for Greenhouse Gas Emissions: higher energy costs; jobs moving overseas; severe economic impacts on the poor, the elderly, minorities, and those on fixed incomes; 6.1 million sources subject to EPA control and regulation; and

In fact, the new regulations threaten to put entire industries out of business.  The new standard for boilers, titled “National Emission Standards for Hazardous Air Pollutants for Major Sources: Industrial, Commercial, and Institutional Boilers and Process Heaters” and called the Boiler MACT, creates a standard that literally no producer in the US meets at the moment.  The industry group Industrial Energy Consumers of America (IECA) represents end-user firms that employ 750,000 in various industries, and they concur:

IECA members have 6 units that were part of the best performing units and none can comply with the standards based on the best performing units. Based on the analysis of the data EPA used to develop these standards, it appears that none of the coal-fired boilers in the source category can meet the proposed standards.

What happens when the installed boilers don’t meet the new standard?  Factories and other facilities will have to close, putting jobs in danger and firms already hammered by the recession will lose production days — which will destroy jobs.  That’s why the United Steel Workers have sounded the alarm, insisting that the EPA’s proposal will mean disaster:

“Tens of thousands of these jobs will be imperiled.  In addition, many more tens of thousands of jobs in the supply chains and in the communities where these plants are located also will be at risk.”

Nor are steelworkers the only group at risk.  New industrial standards for Portland cement threaten to stop all American production in the name of environmental protection — and send the work overseas to China, where ironically the standards are more lax and more pollution will result:

“So rather than importing 20 million tons of cement per year, the proposed [rule] will lead to cement imports of more than 48 million tons per year. In other words, by tightening the regulations on U.S. cement kilns, there will be a risk transfer of some 28 million tons of cement offshore, mostly to China.”Professor Ragnar Lofstedt, Kings College (London)

Again, no facility in the US meets the standards proposed by the EPA.  Imposition of these standards would at least temporarily close almost 20 percent of all American cement producers and reduce long-term cement production from 8-15%.  The cement that will be needed for construction demand will have to be imported, primarily from China, which is expanding their cement production using environmental standards significantly below current American standards.  In other words, we can expect more pollution, not less — just outsourced along with the jobs in the industry.

Watch for the full report later today at the EPW Minority Caucus website.


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The people will only work at his pleasure, and industries will only exist at his discretion.

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beatcanvas on September 28, 2010 at 8:49 AM

Time to send the EPA to China where they can be appreciated and dealt with in a proper manor.

rgranger on September 28, 2010 at 8:51 AM

Saul Alinsky hated the middle class as he saw them as a buffer to the ruling class. Destroy them and bring them down to the lower class and then go after the “bad guys”. Obama is right on schedule.

volsense on September 28, 2010 at 8:51 AM

Hmmm, the EPA is going to put 800,000 jobs at risk. The EPA has about 17,000 employees. I move that we fire everyone at the EPA. That way they can no longer jeopardize anyone else’s job and we reduce unemployment and government spending.

Oldnuke on September 28, 2010 at 8:51 AM

When do these new EPA rules go into effect? Does Congress have any power to stop this or is Obama gonna shove this down our throats like he does everything else?

Doughboy on September 28, 2010 at 8:52 AM

Yeah, but it will create 8000 new jobs, so we are ahead by 8000 jobs.

/White House staffer unclear on the concept of math.

rbj on September 28, 2010 at 8:52 AM

Not a single consideration to the costs of these rules?

Nope.

Save the snail darter and lose a few hundred thousand jobs.

Save the snail darter and cut out a few hundred million dollars from the economy.

And importing cement from offshore is not going to save the planet, nor any domestic jobs either, unless you work for the EPA, I guess.

coldwarrior on September 28, 2010 at 8:53 AM

ObaMao and the unelected/unaccountable EPA destroying America’s industries, productivity, and jobs one element at a time. Actually, the destruction is exponential.

onlineanalyst on September 28, 2010 at 8:53 AM

I wonder,if this news will inspire the young voters of the
Left,to vote in the midterms!!(sarc).

canopfor on September 28, 2010 at 8:53 AM

The EPA needs to be dismantled. Along with the NEArts, the D of Energy, the D of Education, PBS, NPR, the D of Commerce, & many other depts. This alone would get our economy booming.

itsnotaboutme on September 28, 2010 at 8:54 AM

The CLEAR act recently passed in the House. Will the Senate stop this destruction?

onlineanalyst on September 28, 2010 at 8:54 AM

Union and Enviromentalist Thugs are running,and ruining
Lady Liberty!!!

canopfor on September 28, 2010 at 8:55 AM

Ragnar Lofstedt

Cool name.

Johnnyreb on September 28, 2010 at 8:56 AM

Well the good news is that the unions are upset, so that means the dems will back off.
The boilers for all union shops will probably be exempt, non-union and you will have to close…

right2bright on September 28, 2010 at 8:56 AM

To some extent, this is the fault of both parties. Both parties decided long ago to abdicate having to make decisions by simply creating agencies and passing the buck to those agencies. that is safer for the politicians, as they can disclaim any regulations, etc., that their constitutents don’t like and the politicians then don’t have to make tough decisions.

and, it also give the politicians something they can then give to their constituents in the form of being able to be an advocate for the constituent to whatever agency the issue is in. So, it benefits the politican both ways – they don’t have to make unpopular decisions, and they are the access point for constituents having problems with agencies (usuall businesses with lots of money to donate).

But, it has created a byzantine empire of unelected, unaccountable beuaracrats who are making law. And, as we all know, all of the agencies end up captured by careerist leftists, so no matter the administration, they will always be pushing further to the left.

And, as all gov’t agencies do, they will strive to continue to expand their jurisdiction and responsibilities, to enable them to grow and increase their budgets year by year.

so, this is simply the end result. An agency that is usurping power from the legislative branch and doing what the congress would likely never have the votes to do.

When we talk about limiting gov’t, we really need to focus on all of the agencies. We need to limit their rule-making authority, reduce their sizes, and make congress somehow have to vote on new regulations these agencies try to enact.

Monkeytoe on September 28, 2010 at 8:57 AM

Maybe Colbert can cheer those 800,000 people up, how’s about it Zoe?

NoDonkey on September 28, 2010 at 8:57 AM

Obama and his Dem minions are definately on track to reduce America to 3rd-World status. Bravo!

And the Unions continue to carry water for the Dems, even though that water will be used to boil them alive.

Go figure.

Justrand on September 28, 2010 at 8:57 AM

He’s on a roll, isn’t he?

stenwin77 on September 28, 2010 at 8:59 AM

This is strange. I thought the science was settled now. (CO2 has no effect on climate. And the amount produced by man couldn’t have any effect, even if it did.) I thought the warmists had thrown up their hands in frustration that their message was dead. Yet, the United States is pushing ahead just as if the message was enthusiastically embraced. Why are they disillusioned? They are getting their economic-destroying measures implemented.

keep the change on September 28, 2010 at 8:59 AM

Is this how the coziness with China during the Clinton years and the debt to China currently becomes the nightmare of foreigners taking over the U.S.?

beselfish on September 28, 2010 at 8:59 AM

More of that smart power stuff from dear leader.

SHARPTOOTH on September 28, 2010 at 8:59 AM

The good news is that when everything collapses and we live in Madd Maxx’s America, no one will be paying attention to the idiocy of the EPA.

jimmy2shoes on September 28, 2010 at 8:59 AM

Good idea….import more crap from China. They have proven time and time again that they are committed to maintaining a high level of quality in the products they export.

milwife88 on September 28, 2010 at 9:02 AM

Great info.

In related news, not only has the Obama Administration issued a moratorium on deep water drilling, but shallow water permits are moving at a snail’s pace, costing drillers $25,000 a day. Not only is this a jobs killer, we should worry about a shortage of oil and natural gas this winter. Nothing like having to rely on the generosity of Hugo Chavez.

Buy Danish on September 28, 2010 at 9:04 AM

The hits just keep on coming…recommended reading for the day by Victor Davis Hanson, via FR

lukespapa on September 28, 2010 at 9:04 AM

We all know America has stolen everything from the deserving people of the world .. like the shoeless clueless Kenyans.

It’s time we destroy the EPA, the Education Department, the Energy Department, the BATFE … have I missed any of them.

tarpon on September 28, 2010 at 9:06 AM

Uneffin’ believable how the government continues to hammer away at the prosperity of the United States for the sole purpose of spreading the wealth with other countries because of cow flatulence and other fairy tale earth destroyers.

VibrioCocci on September 28, 2010 at 9:07 AM

I’ll vote for the first person running who says they will eliminate the epa. This usurping of power by an agency is not constitutional. Maybe if congress had to do some actual work instead of hanging around the country club, the bills they pass would be shorter and readable.

Kissmygrits on September 28, 2010 at 9:07 AM

“Dear China,

If you loan us 100′s of billions of dollars, I will steer our cement production to you.

With Love
Barry.”

BobK on September 28, 2010 at 9:09 AM

Clearly Obama is going to triangulate after the election, just like Clinton did.

txhsmom on September 28, 2010 at 9:09 AM

This is Change We Can Believe In!!

Changing the employment rolls from full to empty

Changing the national debt from bad to worse

Changing the national mood from slightly paniced to mortified

Changing the direction of the nation from middle of the road to middle of a ditch.

yeah baby!

JP1986UM on September 28, 2010 at 9:10 AM

The cement industry? Geez, those environmental wackos really want to stop progress and kill society.

modnar on September 28, 2010 at 9:10 AM

Excellent points re the federal agencies and bureaucrats.

Read today’s WSJ online to gag on Sebelius’s spin on health insurance. What a web of lies and disinformation.

onlineanalyst on September 28, 2010 at 9:10 AM

The cement industry? Geez, those environmental wackos really want to stop progress and kill society.

modnar on September 28, 2010 at 9:10 AM

Yes, how will Daddy plug the d*mn hole now?

onlineanalyst on September 28, 2010 at 9:12 AM

We’re at war; Government vs the citizens…
The Tea Party is all about the citizens rising up against the machinery of the establishment. If Republicans do win back power once again, they will then show us if they are with the people, or with the establishment.

We already know where the Democrats stand…
The EPA is simply a weapon used against the people.

Keemo on September 28, 2010 at 9:12 AM

OT:

For those of you who collected unemployment benefits in NC, you may be getting a letter in the mail saying that they overpaid you and you owe the state. There was a miscalculation in some cases that resulted in overpayment. So by no fault of the person collecting benefits they will have to pay it back or file a waiver and hope it gets accepted.

http://www.newsobserver.com/2010/09/28/706737/jobless-told-they-owe-money-to.html

Once again a government run entity effing crap up and the little guy has to make restitution.

milwife88 on September 28, 2010 at 9:14 AM

But, but, but…

China is Leading The March Into The Green Future!

I know this is true because Tom Friedman told me so. Many times.

Man, you just can’t trust anyone these days.

Typhoon on September 28, 2010 at 9:14 AM

severe economic impacts on the poor, the elderly, minorities, and those on fixed incomes

Zealous s.o.b.’s, needlessly sacrificing us and our families on their altar of AGW.

Defund EPA and limit its jurisdiction by statute. (CO2 is NOT a hazardous substance.) Then abolish the agency.

petefrt on September 28, 2010 at 9:14 AM

… have I missed any of them.

tarpon on September 28, 2010 at 9:06 AM

ATF, DEA, RECC or whatever it’s called these days, TSA, OSHA, Office of National Drug Control Policy, Dept.of Agriculture, DHSS, HUD, Dept.of Labor, African Development Foundation, Broadcasting Board of Governors, FCC, Federal Reserve, NASA, National Railroad Passenger Corp. This is only the beginning. There are so many useless government entities in existence that we’d have to kill entire forests just to get enough paper to list them all.

Oldnuke on September 28, 2010 at 9:15 AM

This is strange. I thought the science was settled now. (CO2 has no effect on climate. And the amount produced by man couldn’t have any effect, even if it did.) I thought the warmists had thrown up their hands in frustration that their message was dead. Yet, the United States is pushing ahead just as if the message was enthusiastically embraced. Why are they disillusioned? They are getting their economic-destroying measures implemented.

Just ignore that and it will go way..

tinkerthinker on September 28, 2010 at 9:15 AM

Well the good news is that the unions are upset, so that means the dems will back off.
The boilers for all union shops will probably be exempt, non-union and you will have to close…

right2bright on September 28, 2010 at 8:56 AM

Not all unions are upset…..this type of government regulation and expansion is cheered on by some:

http://gatewaypundit.firstthings.com/2010/09/afl-cio-socialist-leader-trumka-we-need-to-fundamentally-restructure-economy-re-establish-popular-control-over-the-private-corporations/

Quote from AFL-CIO President Richard Trumka


we need to fundamentally restructure our economy and re-establish popular control over the private corporations
which have distorted our economy and hijacked our government. That’s a long-term job, but one we should start now.

These marxist cheerleaders need to listen to their marxist heroes like Fidel……”The Cuban system does not work”

These liberal idiots are now to the left of Europe…..lost in their Berkeley bubble and charging full steam ahead in pursuit of their socialist dream.

Baxter Greene on September 28, 2010 at 9:15 AM

I’d love to know how those steelworker union members voted in 2008.

ladyingray on September 28, 2010 at 9:20 AM

What, you peons don’t like CHANGE?

Good Lt on September 28, 2010 at 9:20 AM

The EPA is the enemy of America, and how does one go about destroying this enemy?

darwin-t on September 28, 2010 at 9:20 AM

“Gaia is angry.

We must appease Gaia.

We will sacrifice 800,000 jobs on Gaia’s altar.

Then Gaia will be pleased.

All hail Gaia!” – Barack Obama

NoDonkey on September 28, 2010 at 9:24 AM

Father, do not forgive them, for they know EXACTLY what they do.

IronDioPriest on September 28, 2010 at 9:25 AM

This is the type of report that needs to be mailed directly to the unions membership.

The employers should stick a pamphlet in their paychecks. No political stuff, just the details and a place to get more non-partisan details.

barnone on September 28, 2010 at 9:29 AM

i put this on my FB page. I hope all of you will do likewise.

though cap ‘n trade did not pass in its total form (parts of it are slinking thru both houses), there was regulation limiting or abolishing or thoroughly regulating woodstoves.

that is direct slam at the poor country folks who can’t heat their homes any other way. then the Feds will have to pay to install “clean” heat in their homes.

kelley in virginia on September 28, 2010 at 9:30 AM

Nice to know that the country is really being run by omnipotent political appointees that can never be fired. Wish we could lose 798,250 jobs at the government level.

Tommy_G on September 28, 2010 at 9:33 AM

Obama is right on schedule….

PatriotRider on September 28, 2010 at 9:37 AM

Michelle Malkin has a thread on the further destructiveness of our productivity via agency fiats. She links also to this post of Ed’s.

onlineanalyst on September 28, 2010 at 9:38 AM

While I am sure the public spin on this will be interesting, I wish I could have heard the debate, if there was one, on these regulations as they were being written. Or will they be shocked and amazed at more industry fleeing the country?

Cindy Munford on September 28, 2010 at 9:44 AM

There’s a whole area here in Pennsylvania known as the Cement Belt. Towns like Nazareth, Bath, Coplay, Northampton, it all runs through there. Some of the finest cement in the world. Shut down all those cement mills? That will do wonders for the economy. I’m surprised the EPA hasn’t banned farming too. Maybe that’s next.

Jeff on September 28, 2010 at 9:45 AM

Adults in charge.

The Mega Independent on September 28, 2010 at 9:46 AM

While I am sure the public spin on this will be interesting, I wish I could have heard the debate, if there was one, on these regulations as they were being written. Or will they be shocked and amazed at more industry fleeing the country?
Cindy Munford on September 28, 2010 at 9:44 AM

I think that’s the goal anyway. Redistribution of wealth by forcing industry away from us and into poorer countries. That’s why NAFTA was passed.

darwin on September 28, 2010 at 9:47 AM

In other words, we can expect more pollution, not less — just outsourced along with the jobs in the industry.

“Outsourcing pollution” good line. The GOP should hammer it home.

29Victor on September 28, 2010 at 9:48 AM

Well, since the recession ended in June of 2009 and we’ve had our great Recovery Summer, we can afford to take the hit on a few jobs.

catmman on September 28, 2010 at 9:49 AM

It’s not like the are jobs jobs anyway…

catmman on September 28, 2010 at 9:50 AM

What bills do the Dems intend to push in the lame duck session? Count them: 20, And they ain’t pretty.

http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/121223-dems-stuff-lame-duck

onlineanalyst on September 28, 2010 at 9:50 AM

Nice to know that the country is really being run by omnipotent political appointees that can never be fired. Wish we could lose 798,250 jobs at the government level.

Tommy_G on September 28, 2010 at 9:33 AM

True story. I once worked as a water chemist in a power plant. The EPA had just come into existence. We were blessed with a surprise visit from an inspector. It was my duty to wander around with him. During his “Inspection” he asked me about any concerns I had. I told him that the current Ph limits on waste water discharge were somewhat restrictive and should be changed to match natural parameters. The limits at the time were around 6.0 to 8.5, IIRC. He then informed me that they were actually considering lowering the Ph limit to zero. When I realized that he wasn’t making a lame joke and was entirely serious all I could do was stare at him in stunned disbelief. I later relayed this information to my boss telling him “I think we’re in trouble with these guys.”

Oldnuke on September 28, 2010 at 9:51 AM

What bills do the Dems intend to push in the lame duck session? Count them: 20, And they ain’t pretty.

onlineanalyst on September 28, 2010 at 9:50 AM

This is why when companies fire someone they have security clean out their desk and escort them to the door immediately. They know that damage that a “lame duck” employee can do.

29Victor on September 28, 2010 at 9:51 AM

The cement industry? Geez, those environmental wackos really want to stop progress and kill society.

modnar on September 28, 2010 at 9:10 AM

That is their only purpose.

Dasher on September 28, 2010 at 9:55 AM

darwin on September 28, 2010 at 9:47 AM

These people make zero sense. I am pretty sure we should stop calling the elites. Other options would be endless and probably rude but elites no longer fills the bill.

Cindy Munford on September 28, 2010 at 9:55 AM

Time to trot out this Golden Oldie again:

The private sector is generally more incompetent than the public sector.

crr6 on June 12, 2010 at 12:08 PM

Del Dolemonte on September 28, 2010 at 9:58 AM

Just another part of the Obama redistribution plan , share American wealth with the under developed of the world. Stuff the job losses back home and potential civil unrest that high unemployment could bring.

Maybe the EPA should be the first on the menu to be defunded by a new congress .

Sandybourne on September 28, 2010 at 9:59 AM

Even if the GOP takes nominal control of congress, Obama still has control of the regulatory agencies, and the veto pen. I can imagine truly destructive policies that congress will be unable to stop. It all depends on Obama’s willingness to take it beyond limits.

More then a ‘systemic’ crisis, this is an existential crisis.

Skandia Recluse on September 28, 2010 at 10:00 AM

But, but, but, Pinnochio said jobs were his number one , Numero Uno priority!

I guess he LIED!

dhunter on September 28, 2010 at 10:02 AM

making a lame joke and was entirely serious all I could do was stare at him in stunned disbelief. I later relayed this information to my boss telling him “I think we’re in trouble with these guys.”

Oldnuke on September 28, 2010 at 9:51 AM

Was it covered on here or somewhere else I was just reading lately about the EPA limits were exceeded in completely natural streams, too much animal fecal matter. We’ll just have to stop those bears from doing what they do in the woods.

Jeff on September 28, 2010 at 10:03 AM

Anyone who still thinks it doesn’t matter whether Republicans take the Senate this fall, PLEASE follow the links and read this stuff, and imagine Barbara Boxer vs. Jim Inhofe as the Chairman of the EPW Committee. Inhofe is considered as Satan by the bureaucrats at EPA. He is their worst nightmare.

rockmom on September 28, 2010 at 10:05 AM

Well you can always zero their budget.

tarpon on September 28, 2010 at 10:05 AM

Steel workers and chemical union workers. This will get set back.
The EPA is irrational. They also don’t recognize the death toll increase my driving mini cars. Humans have low value to the eco wackos.

seven on September 28, 2010 at 10:05 AM

Each state has their own EP department. I’m not against sensible regulation. We all know that the problem is that all of these regulatory agencies get infiltrated by extremists and it has to stop. And the lily-livered politicians that kowtow to the extremists have to be put on a short leash too.

Jeff on September 28, 2010 at 10:10 AM

U-u-u-u-n-n-n-ion-n-n-s-s-s. Comm-u-u-u-nity O-o-o-o-r-r-r-ganizers……. Elections have consequences and the moronic left is finding that out. I actually know a person that thinks odumbo is doing a great job!….. I am unable to figure it out. 1984… Hell! Orwell missed it by a few years.

ultracon on September 28, 2010 at 10:12 AM

Steel workers and chemical union workers. This will get set back.
The EPA is irrational. They also don’t recognize the death toll increase my driving mini cars. Humans have low value to the eco wackos.

seven on September 28, 2010 at 10:05 AM

I blame the discovery channel/s

Baxter Greene on September 28, 2010 at 10:13 AM

This is strange. I thought the science was settled now. (CO2 has no effect on climate. And the amount produced by man couldn’t have any effect, even if it did.) I thought the warmists had thrown up their hands in frustration that their message was dead. Yet, the United States is pushing ahead just as if the message was enthusiastically embraced. Why are they disillusioned? They are getting their economic-destroying measures implemented.

keep the change on September 28, 2010 at 8:59 AM

The warmists couldn’t get their message through the Senate, because the Senate is based on STATES, not population, and lots of STATES depend on coal, and their Senators know it.

But Constitutional Law Professor Obama hasn’t read the part about “all legislative power…vested in Congress”. The Won has Won, and he and the EPA will make Executive Rules and circumvent Congress, and dare Congress to stop them.

The Warmists lament and shed crocodile tears about those dirty, EEEEEEVIL coal-state Senators, but they’ve already gotten their wish…for now, until January 2013 at least. EPA chief Lisa Jackson already published a Rule (who needs laws when you can “rule”?) requiring facilities producing over 250,000 tons/year of CO2 to employ Best Available Control Technology. Those CO2 emissions correspond to about 110 megawatts (MW) of HEATING VALUE from natural gas, about half that much of coal, but since no power plant is 100% efficient, that means LESS power, while most commercial power plants produce at least 250 MW of power.

The problem is, nobody knows what Best Available Control Technology is for CO2, because no one has tried to control it before! So the power companies are stuck trying to comply with a Rule nobody understands, not even the EPA, so they sit on the sidelines and cancel power plant projects, leading to higher electricity costs…

Don’t let the weeping warmist woes fool you. They already won with the Won. Who needs Congress when you can Rule?

/Fidel Chavez Obama

Steve Z on September 28, 2010 at 10:15 AM

Time to trot out this Golden Oldie again:

The private sector is generally more incompetent than the public sector.

crr6 on June 12, 2010 at 12:08 PM

Del Dolemonte on September 28, 2010 at 9:58 AM


Count it!!!

White House aides owe IRS over $800,000

The executive branch total for IRS delinquencies, with the White House included? A whopping $59,781,577 in back taxes.

Only an idiot would view the fact that public sector ignorance and corruption continually getting a pass from lady justice is a sign of competence.

Baxter Greene on September 28, 2010 at 10:23 AM

These scum@&$@s are as, if not more malicious than our adversaries in WW2

maybe they will close our farmlands because of dust…

There is a proper finish for this bunch

Sonosam on September 28, 2010 at 10:23 AM

I hate hippies.

yubley on September 28, 2010 at 10:28 AM

More evidence that the 0bama regime and the democrat party are planning a “scorched earth” policy, to destabilize the US economy for the incoming republican majority.

Rebar on September 28, 2010 at 10:29 AM

OT, but a tad related:

“People need to shake off this lethargy. People need to buck up,” Obama told Rolling Stone in an interview to be published Friday. The president told Democrats that making change happen is hard and “if people now want to take their ball and go home, that tells me folks weren’t serious in the first place.”

OMG!! (giggle)

DrStock on September 28, 2010 at 10:32 AM

You guys are worried over nothing. Only 6 of the 57 states will be affected by this. And besides Obama has saved a gajillion jobs already and is on pace to double that number by next year.

angryed on September 28, 2010 at 10:36 AM

Correct me if I’m wrong but didn’t the Steelworkers rabidly support Obama? So excuse me while I feel zero symathy for them as they reap what they’ve sewn.

angryed on September 28, 2010 at 10:39 AM

Again, no facility in the US meets the standards proposed by the EPA.

Does any facility anywhere meet those standards? If so, how competitive are those facilities?

hawksruleva on September 28, 2010 at 10:39 AM

“if people now want to take their ball and go home, that tells me folks weren’t serious in the first place.”

It’s my ball, I’ll do what I darn well please with it! And maybe I’m going to WORK, instead of being serious about playing.

hawksruleva on September 28, 2010 at 10:41 AM

Well, there is a move in Washington to make the Census a constant, ongoing process….. That ought to employ about 800,000 people full time, instead of that silly part time job every ten years.

Problem solved!

See how simple life is when you ignore reality?

LegendHasIt on September 28, 2010 at 10:44 AM

The situation is worse in California. CALIFORNIA POLITICOS ARE THREATENING BUSINESSES WITH SPECIAL TAXES AND DELAYING THE BUDGET TO DO IT, if these businesses support Proposition 23 (which delays implementing the state’s Cap&Trade law until CA gets better employment numbers).

Money quote:

Very reliable sources tell us that the reason for the delay is that CA Gov. Schwarzenegger, with the collaboration of the State Legislature, is blackmailing potential business supporters of Proposition 23, the California Jobs Initiative that would delay implementation of AB32. They are threatening these supporters with reprisals of special taxes and other punitive measures if they support Prop 23. But once the budget is passed, it is no longer possible to include these taxes in the budget. This is a big reason why the budget is late.

Mutnodjmet on September 28, 2010 at 10:50 AM

To some extent, this is the fault of both parties. Both parties decided long ago to abdicate having to make decisions by simply creating agencies and passing the buck to those agencies. that is safer for the politicians, as they can disclaim any regulations, etc., that their constitutents don’t like and the politicians then don’t have to make tough decisions.

and, it also give the politicians something they can then give to their constituents in the form of being able to be an advocate for the constituent to whatever agency the issue is in. So, it benefits the politican both ways – they don’t have to make unpopular decisions, and they are the access point for constituents having problems with agencies (usuall businesses with lots of money to donate).

But, it has created a byzantine empire of unelected, unaccountable beuaracrats who are making law. And, as we all know, all of the agencies end up captured by careerist leftists, so no matter the administration, they will always be pushing further to the left.

And, as all gov’t agencies do, they will strive to continue to expand their jurisdiction and responsibilities, to enable them to grow and increase their budgets year by year.

so, this is simply the end result. An agency that is usurping power from the legislative branch and doing what the congress would likely never have the votes to do.

When we talk about limiting gov’t, we really need to focus on all of the agencies. We need to limit their rule-making authority, reduce their sizes, and make congress somehow have to vote on new regulations these agencies try to enact.

Monkeytoe on September 28, 2010 at 8:57 AM

This.

We can’t just elect Tea Party candidates to Congress; we have to make sure they start eliminating agencies wherever possible, and eliminating functions of agencies that can’t be gotten rid of.

And the EPA and the Department of Education are two agencies that plainly do more harm than good. We’d be much better off without them, and I’d love to see them dissolved.

Aitch748 on September 28, 2010 at 11:04 AM

The LEED rules put a very big premium on using locally produced building materials as a way to reduce pollution. I guess the Feds have decided that hauling cement all the way from China is now an environmentally conscious way of doing business.

Heh.

unclesmrgol on September 28, 2010 at 11:05 AM

Mutnodjmet on September 28, 2010 at 10:50 AM

I don’t think so. They may be threatening such rules, but they amount to a bill of attainder if they follow through.

California’s budget is always months late; the Legislature and Assembly never have their acts together. Remember, this is a Democratic state, and all of our elected officials pay about as much attention to their jobs as did the Bell City Council.

unclesmrgol on September 28, 2010 at 11:08 AM

Time to trot out this Golden Oldie again:

The private sector is generally more incompetent than the public sector. crr6 on June 12, 2010 at 12:08 PM

Del Dolemonte on September 28, 2010 at 9:58 AM

Oh my! Dutifully added to his dossier.

Akzed on September 28, 2010 at 11:15 AM

Well, unions helped put these crazies in office. Maybe they will learn something

tommer74 on September 28, 2010 at 11:30 AM

More Red collar crime.

reaganaut on September 28, 2010 at 11:31 AM

Jobs? Who cares about stinking jobs? We’ve got a world to save here.

rrpjr on September 28, 2010 at 11:32 AM

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