Hey, let’s repeal parts of ObamaCare, says … Democratic Senate nominee from West Virginia

posted at 4:55 pm on September 27, 2010 by Allahpundit

It’s Joe Manchin, a.k.a. the extremely popular governor of West Virginia, a.k.a. the man who was supposed to waltz to victory as Byrd’s replacement but now trails, a.k.a. the candidate who could implode at any moment if that federal probe of his office turns up a smoking gun. At last check, Obama’s approval rating in West Virginia was … 30/64, a ball and chain around Manchin’s ankles that he’s frantic to somehow wriggle loose from over the next five weeks.

And so, my friends, it’s come to this.

Manchin endorsed President Obama’s efforts on landmark health care reform and voiced support for the bill before and after its passage in March. Now, just five weeks away from a tougher Senate race than he expected against Republican John Raese, the governor said in an interview with RealClearPolitics that he supports many basic components of the law but volunteered that some of it needs to be repealed.

“I believe in health care reform. I don’t believe in the way this bill was passed,” Manchin said Sunday afternoon. “Why they overreached, I don’t know.”

Pressed on his support for repeal, Manchin clarified that he favored “repealing the things that are bad in that bill.” He ticked off a list of reforms in the law that he supports and asserted there is broad agreement in both parties for many of them. “Can’t you keep that as a good base?” he said, adding, “It’s a great bill.” He emphasized that he’s not calling for wholesale repeal and just wants to roll back parts of it but said, “You do need to.”

He’d also like you to know that he sympathizes with the tea party, ahem. Two things here. One: A chief liberal line of attack against O-Care skeptics is that they want to order a la carte on health care, preserving the popular provisions (like the ban on denying coverage for preexisting conditions) and getting rid of the unpopular ones, i.e. the individual mandate. According to O-Care supporters, there’s no way to do that and make it economically feasible; you need to take the bitter of the mandate to enjoy the sweet of expanded coverage so that insurance companies have more revenue available to cover people they wouldn’t have covered before. I’d be mighty curious to hear Manchin’s response to that. Does he have some sort of actual “drop the bad, keep the good” health-care solution in mind or is he just saying whatever he needs to say here to distance himself from Obama while sounding reasonable? I know which way I’m betting! Two: Consider this the final pathetic destruction of the lefty talking points earlier this year that (a) O-Care simply had to be passed in order to motivate Democrats to turn out in November and (b) that early public opposition would quickly soften and turn into support as people warmed up to the new reality. Bill Clinton’s already confessed his grievous error on the latter point and now here we have Manchin, arguably the most popular Democratic governor in America, eating a giant shinola sandwich on the former. Amazing.

First, Pomeroy’s Bush ad, now this. Exit question: How soon before we see the first Democratic ad of the cycle praising Reagan? Over/under is one week.


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I’ll take the “under” on that, AP, with the candidate in question probably being from a “Reagan Democrat” state in the Rust Belt like Michigan.

teke184 on September 27, 2010 at 4:58 PM

The mandate is the lynch pin holding that whole crap sandwich together.

msmveritas on September 27, 2010 at 4:59 PM

Pledging to repeal parts of Obamacare won’t cut it. The majority of Americans want the whole damn thing scrapped. Even the alleged good stuff(ban on preexisting conditions, letting “kids” stay on til age 26) is directly responsible for the new higher premiums that are being dumped on everyone right about now.

Manchin is jerking the voters around and I hope most of them can see through this. There’s no way in hell the dude votes to repeal any of Obamacare the moment he’s sworn in as Senator.

Doughboy on September 27, 2010 at 5:00 PM

“It’s a great bill.”

If it is so great, why repeal parts of it then?

How about we repeal the whole bloody thing and tell the government to stop trying to be our mother?

Beaglemom on September 27, 2010 at 5:00 PM

Parts of it?!

Repeal ALL OF IT.

Skywise on September 27, 2010 at 5:00 PM

The Tea Party is inside the Elite’s OODA loop… and getting faster at it than the Elites can respond to the previous cycle.

ajacksonian on September 27, 2010 at 5:00 PM

Hillary! 2012!

GarandFan on September 27, 2010 at 5:01 PM

“I Too Supported the Surge”– Any given democrat in a week or two.

rob verdi on September 27, 2010 at 5:01 PM

Exit question: How soon before we see the first Democratic ad of the cycle praising Reagan?

LOL … and the Constitution.

Next week: Democrats talk about the upcoming Christmas season and their hope of seeing trees and Nativity scenes everywhere!!!

darwin on September 27, 2010 at 5:02 PM

This man has one chance of preserving his Governorship in 2012… Stop campaigning NOW, maybe even endorse Raese, informing the public that ‘those DC Dems ain’t West Virginia Dems’… in the true spirit of ‘Bipartisianship’

phreshone on September 27, 2010 at 5:02 PM

Praising Reagan? Mayhaps! Maybe Jesus Christ next! And ya know, that Rush Limbaugh, he’s not so bad! He’s got a few good ideas….

ROTFFLMFAOOL!!!

IronDioPriest on September 27, 2010 at 5:02 PM

Manchin: I’m a Republican kinda democrat.

darwin on September 27, 2010 at 5:02 PM

I’ll take two weeks before a democrat wears a white wig talking about his love of the founding fathers.

GardenGnome on September 27, 2010 at 5:04 PM

If you like your governor, you can keep your governor.

I know, sounds like Obama, except I’m telling the truth. You really do get to keep him, plus add a vote against Obama in the Senate. win win.

forest on September 27, 2010 at 5:05 PM

Repeal and replace ObamaCare…then look at the US Department of Education…

d1carter on September 27, 2010 at 5:06 PM

My name’s Joe Manchin, and gosh darn it, I wish I used to work for Haliburton under Dick Cheney! I oppose the evildoers in Washington! I’m a… I’m a… a… Maverick! yeah, that’s the ticket!

ROTFFLMFAOOL!!!

IronDioPriest on September 27, 2010 at 5:06 PM

Remember that Tuesday, NOvember 2, 2010 is National Take Out the Trash Day. This guy falls in that category. Blue Dogs lie until the election polls close and then stab you in the back. Thats who they are.

volsense on September 27, 2010 at 5:06 PM

Some very red meat from Raese also at RCP

forest on September 27, 2010 at 5:07 PM

I hope there are not people in WV who fall for it.They’ll say anything at this point.

ohiobabe on September 27, 2010 at 5:11 PM

3 Words that should be driven in the heart and mind of every West Virginian, Lame Duck Session. Who ever is elect on November 2nd, immediately upon certification of election, becomes seantor dur to the death of Byrd. The same goes for Illinois and Delaware.

ConservativePartyNow on September 27, 2010 at 5:11 PM

Welcome to Chapter 673 of the most bizzare election season I’ve seen in my lifetime. I look forward to my tomorrows like the next day is always gonna be Christmas. Buckle up, ’cause it’s only gonna get weirder…

joejm65 on September 27, 2010 at 5:12 PM

The message should be that they cant be trusted to repeal parts of it. If you want parts or all of it repealed, then you have to go with other than a Democrat.

WoosterOh on September 27, 2010 at 5:13 PM

Exit question: How soon before we see the first Democratic ad of the cycle praising Reagan? Over/under is one week.

Obama was already praising Reagan last election cycle.

http://www.newsweek.com/2009/11/20/channeling-the-gipper.html

cs89 on September 27, 2010 at 5:13 PM

“It’s a great bill.”

Dear Candidate,

There are easy spot to signs that a particular bill is not, in fact, “great”.

One such sign would be that you want to repeal part or all of it.

Another sign would be that you can’t actually promote it or face defeat at the polls.

Call us when you get a clue.

Love,

Your Former Constituents

Lily on September 27, 2010 at 5:14 PM

Blue Dogs lie until the election polls close and then stab you in the back. Thats who they are.

volsense on September 27, 2010 at 5:06 PM

So true. Our so-called blue dog congresswoman, Gabby Giffords, was calling Tucson Tea Partiers “racists” last year for wanting the border secured. Now she’s running t.v. ads here with some guy who claims to be a local rancher (probably just some union stooge in a cowboy hat), saying Giffords has worked harder to secure the border than any politician ever! The woman is absolutely shameless. Typical Dim.

AZCoyote on September 27, 2010 at 5:17 PM

LOL

Interesting he goes into what’s good about the bill, but doesn’t mention one specific portion of it he wants repealed.

It’s vague pandering for votes. Nothing more.

ButterflyDragon on September 27, 2010 at 5:18 PM

When the accomplished serial liars of the donkey party start using weathervane political strategies, the result is dizziness, nausea and hopefully massive losses.

ontherocks on September 27, 2010 at 5:22 PM

He is a flip-flopper. Should ask Kerry and Obama to campaign for him.

Schadenfreude on September 27, 2010 at 5:23 PM

Dear Fellow Patriots,

Last week, our campaign released a poll showing us with a 6 point lead over incumbent Ron Klein – our message is reaching South Floridians. However, as legendary Coach Lou Holtz would say, the Fourth Quarter is what separates the men from the boys.

Steadfast and Loyal,
[West signature]
LTC(R) Allen B. West

Luka on September 27, 2010 at 5:25 PM

Democrat Party? As in Nancy Pelosi? Never heard of it. Go Booooosh!

ronsfi on September 27, 2010 at 5:26 PM

he supports many basic components of the law but volunteered that some of it needs to be repealed.

under the bus with you Barack!!

ted c on September 27, 2010 at 5:30 PM

OT:

Nick Marsh, one of the lawyers who prosecuted the late Sen. Ted Stevens (R-Alaska) for corruption, took his own life over the weekend, his attorney confirmed to The Hill. NPR first reported Monday that Marsh committed suicide. Bob Luskin, Marsh’s attorney, told The Hill on Monday that his former client committed suicide but said he did not know additional details.

Del Dolemonte on September 27, 2010 at 5:35 PM

Another temporary conservative pretends to assume the little guy can’t figure out he’s lying just after the the election. It’s over Dems-Obama finally woke the idle masses up. Threats of jail and death panels are harder to sell than a Yugo.

Don L on September 27, 2010 at 5:35 PM

Del Dolemonte on September 27, 2010 at 5:35 PM

Karma. It’s a bit*h.

Tim Zank on September 27, 2010 at 5:47 PM

Crooked Joe Manchin and his crooked family deserve a one-way ticket back to the family carpet emporium for good.

Philly on September 27, 2010 at 6:02 PM

Poor baby…

ladyingray on September 27, 2010 at 6:46 PM

These dumbasses listened to Pelugli instead of their constituants at all those town hall meetings last year…suffer, f*ckers…

ladyingray on September 27, 2010 at 6:47 PM

Exit question: How soon before we see the first Democratic ad of the cycle praising Reagan? Over/under is one week.

Next question: How soon before a Democrat states that he watches/listens to Glenn Beck?

rbj on September 27, 2010 at 7:05 PM

Soon it will be: ‘We should really repeal Obamacare and start over’.

Give that about a week or so to pop up… plus the individual will forget to mention which party they are from, and will change their first name, too! Going for the trifecta of dumb.

ajacksonian on September 27, 2010 at 7:25 PM

Repeal and don’t make an attempt to do anything in one huge package again. There are a few things that can be done to improve healthcare beyond killing Obamacare, and they should be done separately in simple little easy-to-understand bills.

slickwillie2001 on September 27, 2010 at 8:06 PM

rbj: That would be rich. I am calling on Glenn Beck to interview any lefty who claims to be a fan. Expose the lies, Beck.

Philly on September 27, 2010 at 8:23 PM

I can’t believe anyone would go with repealing only part of the law. You are going to lose all the idiots that think the law is great and you aren’t going to gain much in the people who want it repealed.

This I suspect if one of those issues you just don’t flip on. Unless your district/state is pretty much 100% against it you are going to lose more than you gain. Like ‘pro-gun’ democrats or ‘pro-choice’ republicans.

clement on September 27, 2010 at 8:48 PM

These dumbasses listened to Pelugli instead of their constituents at all those town hall meetings last year…suffer, f*ckers…
ladyingray on September 27, 2010 at 6:47 PM

LOL You are either related to me or there is a whole lot of people out there who are severely po’d at the way things have been going. I hope we carpet bomb em in Nov. and remain ever vigilant in the future.

arnold ziffel on September 27, 2010 at 10:01 PM

No such thing as a moderate Democrat. The Alaska, Montana, Nebraska, and Louisiana Democratic Senators proved that by being the 60th vote each to end the Filibuster on Obamacare.

scotash on September 28, 2010 at 12:39 AM

The mandate is the lynch pin holding that whole crap sandwich together.

msmveritas on September 27, 2010 at 4:59 PM

Think about that for a minute. The purchase of insurance, an act which is rooted in free trade (the good) is the mandate, (the bad). This is a perfect example of how evil is a parasite on the good. There’s no blurred line between the two and it’s not the other way around as the Dark Knight’s “Joker” character would have us believe.

There’s also an immense hypocrisy being revealed here. The left is always bashing capitalism as evil and impotent yet here they rely on an essential element of capitalism for their prized healthcare bill.

It’s twisted, maybe, but there is poetry in all this. You know, like, Knowledge is power, the truth will set you free, Reality bites and of course, Reality is a bitch!

beselfish on September 28, 2010 at 8:44 AM

Manchin went on to say, “I’ll tell you whatever you want to hear to get elected.” Unfortunately, the microphones picked up him also saying, “….and once I get to Washington, I’ll vote however the party wants me to vote.”

olesparkie on September 28, 2010 at 8:45 AM