Breitbart to Bill Maher: You know you’re not a libertarian anymore, right?

posted at 11:47 am on September 25, 2010 by Allahpundit

The funniest thing about this? I’m not sure Maher does know. He knows he’s more socialist than libertarian when it comes to health care, but as a general proposition about how he self-identifies, he seems hesitant when Breitbart puts it to him. That’s a testament, I think, to how intellectually attractive the libertarian brand is, ironically almost in inverse proportion to how successful it is at the polls. Democrats bristle at the “socialist” label but tell any Republican pol or pundit except Mike Huckabee that he’s a “libertarian” — especially in the year of the tea party — and he’s likely to agree, albeit with qualifiers. And why not? The brand means free markets, property rights, civil liberties, and most importantly for Maher, permissiveness towards drug use and sexual behavior. The Constitution + fun = crazy delicious. And because libertarianism tends to operate in popular debate as a critique of mainstream conservatism (even though, of course, economically it’s a much sharper critique of liberalism), it’s a useful way of endorsing certain elements of the GOP agenda without endorsing the entire rotten GOP brand, essentially shorthand for saying, “I like capitalism but I’m too thoughtful to be a Republican.” None of which is meant to impugn committed libertarians like the Reason crew, just guys like Maher who dig the label and the slight charge of dissident chic that it carries so much that they’re reluctant to part with it, even after they’ve (d)evolved into center-left Democrats.

Incidentally, the best part here isn’t the Breitbart/Maher exchange, it’s Maher insisting that the reason ObamaCare is polling so badly is because — no joke — the Democrats haven’t talked about it enough yet. That’s the cover story of next month’s Reason magazine, isn’t it? “More ObamaCare speeches, please”? Click the image to watch.


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Too bad this video does not finish.

In fact, for 2 days now, this eyeblast video FAILS to finish.

I do not know if they have too few resources to support popular videos, or are just trolling for web hits.

Can someone put it on youtube?

Freddy on September 25, 2010 at 11:51 AM

heh…
Maher looks like he just made poo in his pants..

ted c on September 25, 2010 at 11:53 AM

Too many people assume libertarian means libertine. It does not. Personal responsibility and rational behavior form the foundation that conservative libertarianism is founded upon. States should decide if they wish to legalize gambling, prostitution, illicit drug use, gay marriage, and yes, even abortion.

John the Libertarian on September 25, 2010 at 11:55 AM

In practice libertarianism is liberalism.

Theoretically of course it is very different, but the Reason crew is a good example. Quite a few of them voted for socialists like John Kerry and Obama.

Libertarianism can basically mean anything you want it to mean.

sharrukin on September 25, 2010 at 11:55 AM

MAHER: I’m, I’m not afraid, it’s not, I’m not afraid to say European socialism works.

Yeah, and Brazil got off of oil in the past thirty years.

lowandslow on September 25, 2010 at 11:56 AM

The Rest Of Us to Bill Maher: You know you’re not relevant anymore, right?

pilamaye on September 25, 2010 at 11:56 AM

People have confronted Maher about his lie that he is a libertarian for over 10 years. That’s his shtick and he is sticking to it.

Blake on September 25, 2010 at 11:57 AM

Was he ever, or was that just the cool thing libs called themselves during the Bush years?

abobo on September 25, 2010 at 11:57 AM

MAHER: I’m, I’m not afraid, it’s not, I’m not afraid to say European socialism works.

The show is obviously not taped in Athens, Greece.

SteveMG on September 25, 2010 at 11:59 AM

Just wait until late 2011 when Americans find out how much smaller their checks are due to the cost of health care.

CWforFreedom on September 25, 2010 at 12:00 PM

…..it’s Maher insisting that the reason ObamaCare is polling so badly is because — no joke — the Democrats haven’t talked about it enough yet.

Well the AP is claiming they have poll results that show more people want OCare repealed because it doesn’t go far enough than just want it gone as government interference.

GnuBreed on September 25, 2010 at 12:00 PM

and yes, even abortion.

John the Libertarian on September 25, 2010 at 11:55 AM

Not sure about this one. I suppose the state has a right to make murder legal.

unseen on September 25, 2010 at 12:01 PM

Well the AP is claiming they have poll results that show more people want OCare repealed because it doesn’t go far enough than just want it gone as government interference.

GnuBreed on September 25, 2010 at 12:00 PM

That’s just BS. It wouldn’t have to be repealed to go farther.

ladyingray on September 25, 2010 at 12:01 PM

Where has European Socialism worked?
When?

Elizabetty on September 25, 2010 at 12:02 PM

They have been using the excuse that they simply didn’t communicate it well enough all along.

It’s the favorite fall-back position.

AnninCA on September 25, 2010 at 12:03 PM

Not sure about this one. I suppose the state has a right to make murder legal.

unseen on September 25, 2010 at 12:01 PM

Think of it this way: don’t I have the right as an individual to live in a state where it is prohibited?

John the Libertarian on September 25, 2010 at 12:03 PM

The only real self-identification these hacks have is a blind hatred of the GOP. And I think that is because they equate it with ultra conservative social views such as fundamentalist Christianity. GOP = White Christians = evil.

That’s it. Any other qualifying is intellectual costuming.

ace tomato on September 25, 2010 at 12:03 PM

Heh, Maher appears to visibly deflate in that clip. Outstanding! Thank you Andrew!

painfulTruthDisciple on September 25, 2010 at 12:04 PM

Well, if they would read it they could explain it better.

Right?

ladyingray on September 25, 2010 at 12:04 PM

Well the AP is claiming they have poll results that show more people want OCare repealed because it doesn’t go far enough than just want it gone as government interference.

GnuBreed on September 25, 2010 at 12:00 PM

There is probably some truth to that. The product they produced is unworkable. A public option would have made more sense that people could simply buy into would have made much more sense.

AnninCA on September 25, 2010 at 12:04 PM

They have been using the excuse that they simply didn’t communicate it well enough all along.

It’s the favorite fall-back position.

AnninCA on September 25, 2010 at 12:03 PM

no what they are saying is we are too stupid to understand it. And only if they find the roseta stone will we stupid people be able to see are great it is.

unseen on September 25, 2010 at 12:05 PM

States should decide if they wish to legalize gambling, prostitution, illicit drug use, gay marriage, and yes, even abortion.

John the Libertarian on September 25, 2010 at 11:55 AM

If you were really a libertarian you would not believe this. State, federal, or whatever should scare you—if you were really a libertarian. Nice try though.

CWforFreedom on September 25, 2010 at 12:05 PM

Well the AP is claiming they have poll results that show more people want OCare repealed because it doesn’t go far enough than just want it gone as government interference.

GnuBreed on September 25, 2010 at 12:00 PM

I heard this al-AP story being flogged earlier today on my local radio news. According to them, because it’s one poll, it’s “fact” Settled Science.

Del Dolemonte on September 25, 2010 at 12:05 PM

Think of it this way: don’t I have the right as an individual to live in a state where it is prohibited?

John the Libertarian on September 25, 2010 at 12:03 PM

Do you have the right to live in a state where slavery is legal?

unseen on September 25, 2010 at 12:06 PM

They have been using the excuse that they simply didn’t communicate it well enough all along.

It’s the favorite fall-back position.

AnninCA on September 25, 2010 at 12:03 PM

no what they are saying is we are too stupid to understand it. And only if they find the roseta stone will we stupid people be able to see are great it is.

unseen on September 25, 2010 at 12:05 PM

You are both right.

CWforFreedom on September 25, 2010 at 12:06 PM

I’m thinking Maher thinks libertarianism = legal pot. Judging by the bizarre stuff he says, he’s all for that. I’d like to see him debate anybody from Reason. Anybody at all. The receptionist at Reason probably has a better grasp on what libertarianism is than Maher.

Laura Curtis on September 25, 2010 at 12:07 PM

andrew Bbbbbbbbbbrrrrrrrrreeeeeeeeeeeeitbart.

bessex on September 25, 2010 at 12:09 PM

Queer. Every time either party undergoes public rejection for whatever, its members whether Republican or Democrat, claim to be Libertarian.

Ugh.

The last year of Bush’s administration, Hannity claimed to be “Libertarian, not Republican”.

Bill Maher EVER saw himself a Libertarian? Gag.

BTW, that entire business of free drug trade is the least of Libertarian platform points, being that the “war on drugs” remains a flop (CIA trade).

Libertarian? Its the ECONOMY, stupid. Free trade, Laissez faire.

Tagging Libertarians as free drugs and sex is like tagging conservatives as that Baptist cult defiling military funerals and as tagging those who abstain from sex as abortion clinic bombers. False Alinsky methods of “explanation” improperly smear proper application of meaning by juxtaposing content out of context for affect.

maverick muse on September 25, 2010 at 12:09 PM

I don’t like Socialists or Libertarians. Yuck

terryannonline on September 25, 2010 at 12:10 PM

Nice try though.

CWforFreedom on September 25, 2010 at 12:05 PM

Libertarians believe in local control. We don’t think government is the boogey man, don’t be juvenile. We’re not anarchists. This country should have 50 separate experiments in democracy. If some wish to legislate morality, then let their citizens vote on it.

John the Libertarian on September 25, 2010 at 12:10 PM

I’s sure Steve Allen is rolling over in his grave at the obnoxious jerk his protege’ Maher has become.

kingsjester on September 25, 2010 at 12:11 PM

I think most of the guys at Reason are snotty d-bags.

terryannonline on September 25, 2010 at 12:13 PM

Do you have the right to live in a state where slavery is legal?

unseen on September 25, 2010 at 12:06 PM

Not when the founding documents say that all men are created equal and are endowed with certain rights by their Creator.

You purists always pollute the argument. You fail to realize how wholly beaten we are on abortion and continue to lose more and more ground, so you want to take a hammer to it, rather than realize that the prohibition of abortion can only be achieved incrementally, with the first huge step being allowing the states to overturn Roe v. Wade IF THEY CHOOSE.

John the Libertarian on September 25, 2010 at 12:14 PM

Part of Breitbart’s genius is to be able to hit liberals where it hurts – in the ego. He’s lived among lefties long enough that he knows where to find the chinks in their armor, and is brave enough to sling his arrows there.

They reserve a special hatred for him because of this. Sarah Palin is just some idiot Christbitten snowbilly in their minds, after all – but Breitbart is closer to being one of them, having worked in Hollywood and in the media. He knows just how to twist the knife.

Missy on September 25, 2010 at 12:16 PM

Libertarians believe in local control. We don’t think government is the boogey man, don’t be juvenile. We’re not anarchists. This country should have 50 separate experiments in democracy. If some wish to legislate morality, then let their citizens vote on it.

John the Libertarian on September 25, 2010 at 12:10 PM

Cop-out

Definition of Libertarian.
NOUN:
One who advocates maximizing individual rights and minimizing the role of the state.
One who believes in free will.

CWforFreedom on September 25, 2010 at 12:17 PM

HOLMES: They talked endlessly about it and their agenda was rejected by the American people, that’s a simple fact.

MAHER: Because they’re stupid.

Maher isn’t a libertarian or a socialist. He’s an ignorant snot nosed jerk who thinks insulting the American people makes him too cool for the room. He keeps telling himself that even though he knows he would get sliced and diced in a fair debate.

Maher doesn’t understand the first thing about economics, history or the constitution and just translates what other libs say into unfunny snark on a show no one watches.

RadClown on September 25, 2010 at 12:20 PM

Glad to see Breitbart rid himself of the Jim Ignitoski look

phreshone on September 25, 2010 at 12:20 PM

Continue to lose more and more ground

John the Libertarian on September 25, 2010 at 12:14 PM

I am not a libertarian but this silliness(from a supposedly libertarian perspective only) that such government control at the local level is really that much better than at the federal level is just silly. What you really are is a Constitutionalist.

CWforFreedom on September 25, 2010 at 12:21 PM

legalize gambling, prostitution, illicit drug use, gay marriage, and yes, even abortion.

Libertarian? Its the ECONOMY, stupid. Free trade, Laissez faire.

If you legalize all that stuff above, the population won’t wan’t laissez-faire capitalism, or any kind of capitalism at all. They’ll be druggies and slackers, and will demand to be on the government dole so they can indulge their habits all day.

Emperor Norton on September 25, 2010 at 12:21 PM

Such as the right to life, John.

Vera on September 25, 2010 at 12:21 PM

MAHER: Because they’re stupid.

I know. They voted in Obama about two years ago and a Democratic majority almost 4 years ago and we are paying for it.

CWforFreedom on September 25, 2010 at 12:22 PM

and yes, even abortion.

John the Libertarian on September 25, 2010 at 11:55 AM

What about just run of the mill murder of born citizens? Should that be left up to the states as well?

Darth Executor on September 25, 2010 at 12:22 PM

They’ll be druggies and slackers, and will demand to be on the government dole so they can indulge their habits all day.

Emperor Norton on September 25, 2010 at 12:21 PM

Wow? You really believe that?

CWforFreedom on September 25, 2010 at 12:22 PM

OT: captured on film!

Michelle Obama certainly IS the most beautiful woman in this picture…

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1315114/Pictured-Michelle-Obamas-hair-raising-encounter-First-Lady-Cameroon.html

YIKES!

ted c on September 25, 2010 at 12:23 PM

Maher couldn’t sustain a serious political exchange for 45 seconds. He is only able to keep having these programs because of their formats built around his sneers, jabs, cheap shots, glib pronouncements, and mugging asides to milk hoorahs from the audience mob of ignorant 20-something wannabe hipsters. Look back at any of the tapes of show. Once he’s drawn out on a challenging, non-humorous line of thought for more than 45 seconds he starts to fall apart. Commercial break.

rrpjr on September 25, 2010 at 12:24 PM

Such as the right to life, John.

Vera on September 25, 2010 at 12:21 PM

What about just run of the mill murder of born citizens? Should that be left up to the states as well?

Darth Executor on September 25, 2010 at 12:22 PM

Libertarians often have very little realization of the science of biology and more often a disdain for anything that might be religious.

CWforFreedom on September 25, 2010 at 12:24 PM

Not when the founding documents say that all men are created equal and are endowed with certain rights by their Creator.

You purists always pollute the argument. You fail to realize how wholly beaten we are on abortion and continue to lose more and more ground, so you want to take a hammer to it, rather than realize that the prohibition of abortion can only be achieved incrementally, with the first huge step being allowing the states to overturn Roe v. Wade IF THEY CHOOSE.

John the Libertarian on September 25, 2010 at 12:14 PM

You said “states should be able to legalize abortion if they want”, liar. Don’t try to feed us this “I meant incremental change” BS. Either stand your ground or admit you were wrong, don’t try to weasel out of it. Libertarian, pathological liar, what’s the difference?

Darth Executor on September 25, 2010 at 12:24 PM

Wow? You really believe that?

CWforFreedom on September 25, 2010 at 12:22 PM

That’s what happened in China during the opium days.

sharrukin on September 25, 2010 at 12:24 PM

Wow? You really believe that?

See: Santa Cruz, CA.

Emperor Norton on September 25, 2010 at 12:24 PM

Libertarians believe in local control. We don’t think government is the boogey man, don’t be juvenile. We’re not anarchists. This country should have 50 separate experiments in democracy. If some wish to legislate morality, then let their citizens vote on it.

[John the Libertarian on September 25, 2010 at 12:10 PM]

That’s not libertarianism. That’s republicanism.

Dusty on September 25, 2010 at 12:28 PM

Maher couldn’t sustain a serious political exchange for 45 seconds. He is only able to keep having these programs because of their formats built around his sneers, jabs, cheap shots, glib pronouncements, and mugging asides to milk hoorahs from the audience mob of ignorant 20-something wannabe hipsters. Look back at any of the tapes of show. Once he’s drawn out on a challenging, non-humorous line of thought for more than 45 seconds he starts to fall apart. Commercial break.

rrpjr on September 25, 2010 at 12:24 PM

I’ve always thought that. And his obsession with religion, which poor Christine went on to discuss, truly is sophmoric.

AnninCA on September 25, 2010 at 12:28 PM

OT: captured on film!

Michelle Obama certainly IS the most beautiful woman in this picture…

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1315114/Pictured-Michelle-Obamas-hair-raising-encounter-First-Lady-Cameroon.html

YIKES!

ted c on September 25, 2010 at 12:23 PM

I think she’s the only woman in that picture. That’s a transvestite she’s with, right?

Laura Curtis on September 25, 2010 at 12:29 PM

Maher is a Statist.

By definition, one cannot be a Libertarian and be a Statist.

catmman on September 25, 2010 at 12:29 PM

Hey, Maher, been to Greece lately? Maybe you should move to GB where they are thinkin’ about taking your salary, removing an amount they think they should keep and sending you a check to live on and pay your bills. Of course, comrades, this will be coming to a country near you very soon.

Kissmygrits on September 25, 2010 at 12:29 PM

CWforFreedom on September 25, 2010 at 12:05 PM

I disagree.

When have you researched Libertarianism?
The Daily Bell
The Mises Institute

Point being, our Founding Fathers are template Libertarians. It isn’t as if Libertarians are anarchists any more than Socialists are anarchists. However, anarchists would abuse any vehicle in order to bring down order and destroy rule of law. Given how far socialism has permeated today’s world, there would be those of several political persuasions who, if given an opportunity to destroy authoritarian rule, would ignore the premise of balanced, checked powers since those “institutions” that Noonan recently referenced are already absent. But “modern” Libertarians who believe in Laissez faire are not about to do anything violent. Rather, Libertarians (Ron Paul) live according to our constitutional rule of law while they support peaceful protest and speaking out to influence the public demand to slow/halt the flow of excessively abusive powers in legislation.

Without the Libertarian movement, the Tea Party movement would never have begun holding the constitutional conservative grounds from which to gather massive national support from CITIZENS.

maverick muse on September 25, 2010 at 12:30 PM

Commercial break.

rrpjr on September 25, 2010 at 12:24 PM

He’s on HBO…no commercial breaks….but I get your point. You are right.

terryannonline on September 25, 2010 at 12:30 PM

I interpret BM’s reaction very differently and the laughter from the sheep in the audience after Breitbart’s question very differently.

He was not caught.

To me, the reaction from Maher and the audience was, “…is that a joke Breitbart?……OF COURSE (I’m)HE’S A SOCIALIST!!….DUH!!”

DLEW on September 25, 2010 at 12:31 PM

catmman on September 25, 2010 at 12:29 PM

Exactly.

maverick muse on September 25, 2010 at 12:31 PM

The brand means free markets, property rights, civil liberties, and most importantly for Maher, permissiveness towards drug use and sexual behavior. The Constitution + fun = crazy delicious. … it’s a useful way of endorsing certain elements of the GOP agenda without endorsing the entire rotten GOP brand, essentially shorthand for saying, “I like capitalism but I’m too thoughtful to be a Republican.”

Well put, AP. I like it when I can see in words what I know to be true but cannot express it properly myself. I appreciate people who can.

This may also be true of today’s progressives as they look at both sides of the aisle. They agree with aspects of both sides but consider themselves having arrived at their progressive ideology through some great social and intellectual thought process, and therefore tsk tsk the rest of us – more right tsk tsk’ing than left.

Mr_Magoo on September 25, 2010 at 12:32 PM

Not a Libertarian.
.
A Libertine.

mrt721 on September 25, 2010 at 12:32 PM

When the target ignores the obvious, point it out or ignore it as well.

Every time Breitbart makes a point, I admire him more.

maverick muse on September 25, 2010 at 12:33 PM

They have been using the excuse that they simply didn’t communicate it well enough all along.

It’s the favorite fall-back position.

AnninCA on September 25, 2010 at 12:03 PM

Time for some re-education. /Kat Sebelius

iurockhead on September 25, 2010 at 12:34 PM

Maher is a Statist.

By definition, one cannot be a Libertarian and be a Statist.

catmman on September 25, 2010 at 12:29 PM

Exactly.

maverick muse on September 25, 2010 at 12:31 PM

Forgot to add: which is the point Breitbart was making, I think or where he was going. I do wonder what the rest of that exchange was like though to get more context.

catmman on September 25, 2010 at 12:37 PM

I think she’s the only woman in that picture. That’s a transvestite she’s with, right?

Laura Curtis on September 25, 2010 at 12:29 PM

I dunno about that but I think it’s more closely related to a grizzly than a he-she

ted c on September 25, 2010 at 12:37 PM

….then let their citizens vote on it.

[John the Libertarian on September 25, 2010 at 12:10 PM]

Nope, that won’t work for Maher. As he said, the American people are just stupid.

On some levels I agree with him. Considering that the current government was elected by the American people.

iurockhead on September 25, 2010 at 12:37 PM

What? You peons don’t like the regime’s magnificent cradle-to-grave all-emposing plan for the control of your life? Well, just wait until Dear Leader goes around the country to explain it to your narrow minds. You’ll get with the program then. You’ll just love it! ///

kingsjester on September 25, 2010 at 12:38 PM

Where has European Socialism worked?
When?

Elizabetty on September 25, 2010 at 12:02 PM

Tirana, Albania, Oct 4th 1956, between 2:06 to 2:09 PM /s

Norwegian on September 25, 2010 at 12:40 PM

Could we wait till people see it before we can judge whether it’s popular?

Maher

Echo Pelosi’s ObamaCare Xmas Present for the America people. America can just wait to find out what’s in the bill until AFTER it becomes law.

maverick muse on September 25, 2010 at 12:41 PM

MAHER: I’m, I’m not afraid, it’s not, I’m not afraid to say European socialism works.

bwahahahahahahaha

idjut

maverick muse on September 25, 2010 at 12:43 PM

and yes, even abortion.

John the Libertarian on September 25, 2010 at 11:55 AM

Not sure about this one. I suppose the state has a right to make murder legal.

unseen on September 25, 2010 at 12:01 PM

Not so much ‘right’ as power. Take Islam and honor killing for example. The state has the power to define women as the property of first their father and then their husband. Any woman who defies the authority of their owner and the state, or ‘dishonors’ that authority, is a threat to those who claim authority and a threat to the state. Thus making the murder of the rebellious women more than acceptable, more than lawful, but required.

Skandia Recluse on September 25, 2010 at 12:44 PM

That’s not libertarianism. That’s republicanism.

Dusty on September 25, 2010 at 12:28 PM

Don’t bother – see Muse’s response to me. Libertarians are hilarious.

CWforFreedom on September 25, 2010 at 12:44 PM

This is what scares me more and more every day. Just like Eugene Robinson’s recent column advocating more public sector hiring to boost employment, we have Bill Maher here stating that European Socialism works despite its obvious failure all across that continent(seriously, even the most casual newswatcher knows about Greece).

These people live in an adolescent fantasy world and even the reality check of double-digit unemployment, unsustainable debt, massive foreclosures, and skyrocketing health care premiums aren’t enough to make them see the light.

And to make matters worse, not only are they ideologically rigid, they can’t even get the basic details right about the topics they’re discussing. Maher claims that Obamacare just kicked in a couple days ago and that it doesn’t fully take effect til 2014. You’re sort of correct, Bill. The good stuff(kids on plans til age 26, no rejection based on preexisting conditions) did just kick in a few days ago, but they’ve backloaded the nasty things(mandate, Cadillac plan tax, Medicaid burden on the states) for a few more years. And yet premiums are already going way up and small businesses are scared sh-tless thanks to the good stuff. Imagine what the bad stuff will do to the cost and availibility of health care in this country.

Doughboy on September 25, 2010 at 12:45 PM

catmman on September 25, 2010 at 12:37 PM

Breitbart gave Maher’s audience their first tutorial. THEY thought Breitbart was being unfair, outing Maher from the European Socialist closet, stripping him of his false Libertarian facade that the audience believed to be true.

Brilliant.

maverick muse on September 25, 2010 at 12:46 PM

Doughboy on September 25, 2010 at 12:45 PM

The Big Lie: Blast It With Facts

sooner than later

maverick muse on September 25, 2010 at 12:47 PM

Maher, still looking for relevance in a world that’s passed him by. Personally, I’d like to strap him in a chair and have him listen to every speech Barry has ever made, over and over until he cracks.

GarandFan on September 25, 2010 at 12:48 PM

Bill Maher a Libertarian? That’s a joke, right? He’s always been for more government control. The only issue I know of where he thinks the government should have less control is with drugs.

Other than that one issue, he has stood on Big Government’s side every single time. (Oh, well, and the whole security apparatus of the United States. He wishes for a smaller government role in it’s most important role: Defense of the nation)

The man is as much a Libertarian as Obama.

ButterflyDragon on September 25, 2010 at 12:48 PM

Those small government libertarians seem to vote for socialism rather frequently. I suspect mostly because liberals don’t care what you do personally as long as you give them the power to manage your life and society in general.

When put to the test the libertine instinct trumps the libertarian.

http://reason.com/archives/2008/10/29/whos-getting-your-vote

Peter Bagge: 2008 Obama 2004: John Kerry 2000
Ronald Bailey: 2008 Obama
Radley Balko: 2004 John Kerry
Bruce Bartlett: 2008 Obama
David Brin: 2008 Obama
Tim Cavanaugh: 2008 Obama 2000: Ralph Nader
Steve Chapman: 2008 Obama 2004: John Kerry
Bill Kauffman: 2008 Ralph Nader
Craig Newmark: 2008 Obama 2004: John Kerry
Steven Pinker: 2008 Obama 2004: John Kerry 2000: Al Gore
Ryan Sager:2008 Obama
Julian Sanchez: 2008 Obama 2004: John Kerry
John Scalzi: 2008 Obama 2004: John Kerry 2000: Al Gore
Michael Shermer: 2008 Obama
RU Sirius: 2008 Obama 2004: John Kerry 2000: Ralph Nader
Doug Stanhope: 2008 Obama
David Weigel: 2008 Obama 2004: John Kerry 2000: Ralph Nader
Matt Welch: 2004 John Kerry 2000: Ralph Nader

sharrukin on September 25, 2010 at 12:50 PM

MAHER: I’m, I’m not afraid, it’s not, I’m not afraid to say European socialism works.

It’s not a matter of whether someone is afraid or not to say European socialism works. It’s a matter of whether they are ignorant/stupid enough to say it.

JSchuler on September 25, 2010 at 12:50 PM

Wanting Obamacare repelled because it doesn’t go far enough doesn’t make sense, they would consider it a foundation to build on. As for talking about, I think they have told the public they don’t know what is in it numerous times, oddly enough, that doesn’t appear to promote confidence.

Cindy Munford on September 25, 2010 at 12:50 PM

Bill Maher says I’m stupid… Here’s my two cents Bill “YOU SUCK”!

USMCDevilDog on September 25, 2010 at 12:51 PM

is with drugs, abortion and sex.

ButterflyDragon on September 25, 2010 at 12:48 PM

Fify a little

CWforFreedom on September 25, 2010 at 12:51 PM

He was only a “libertarian” while Bill Clinton was President and kept screwing up so much.

Speedwagon82 on September 25, 2010 at 12:52 PM

…but as a general proposition about how he self-identifies, he seems hesitant when Breitbart puts it to him.

The way he wants to hang on to his label (he’s really a bit of a “bitter clinger” isn’t he?)reminds me a bit of Ted Kennedy and Nancy Pelosi who try (or tried, in Sen. Kennedy’s case) to pretend they are still Catholics.

Blaise on September 25, 2010 at 12:52 PM

As we get closer to November 2nd, it’s enjoyable to watch these Progressives lose control.

kingsjester on September 25, 2010 at 12:52 PM

kingsjester on September 25, 2010 at 12:52 PM

Heads are gonna ‘splode!!!! :D

ladyingray on September 25, 2010 at 12:53 PM

btw

We are not subjects. We are citizens.

Mike Pence’s BRILLIANT speech on the Constitution and the Presidency.

text @ The American Spectator

video @ Ace of Spades HQ

maverick muse on September 25, 2010 at 12:54 PM

I consider myself a small L libertarian, but yes. Since the Libertarian party has no real chance in hell of ever having to run anything, its free to be this sort of amorphous anything people want it to be. To me, Libertarianism is all about limiting govt wherever possible and increasing personal responsibility as much as you can. Its that second part, the R word, taking responsibility for your own stupid ideas, that is the part of Libertarianism people don’t like so much.

Dark Eden on September 25, 2010 at 12:59 PM

His political bent aside,I can’t stand Maher. I hate his nasty smirk, I hate his smallness and meaness poorly disguised as humor. On those occasions when I stumble over his show while surfing, I always watch for a couple minutes to see if my assessment of him might be too much, I might be wrong. Always come away with an unchanged opinion.

jeanie on September 25, 2010 at 1:01 PM

From the same show:

Family Guy creator Seth MacFarlane made a crack about his willingness to have sex with Delaware Republican Senate nominee Christine O’Donnell after host Maher showed a clip of O’Donnell from a Politically Incorrect episode from 1998. After a clip of the GOP candidate in which denied believing in the theory of evolution, MacFarlane declared, “I would, I would wreck that chick.”

Read more: http://newsbusters.org/#ixzz10YtZPAWa

Libs R Ill with a capital I.

CWforFreedom on September 25, 2010 at 1:06 PM

AP: I’m sure we can count on you posting the video of this program last evening where Seth McFarland claims he would “wreck” Christine O’Donnell? Wreck, being slang for having sex with.

carbon_footprint on September 25, 2010 at 1:07 PM

I doubt Seth could “wreck” anything but an amoeba vag-ina though.

carbon_footprint on September 25, 2010 at 1:08 PM

Breitbart is one of my Heroes. He gets it completely, is willing to fight back, and he can’t be dismissed easily by the Left. He is a master at exposing the truth.

TheBigOldDog on September 25, 2010 at 1:08 PM

Where has European Socialism worked?
When?

Elizabetty on September 25, 2010 at 12:02 PM

Well, it has “worked” for the past few decades since they did not have to pay for defense since the USA did it for them. Even with that, it still caught up with them!

It is the essence of dramatic irony that anti-capitalist protesting hippies only have the leisure time (and funding) to protest capitalism because of capitalism’s success.

yubley on September 25, 2010 at 1:08 PM

is willing to fight back
TheBigOldDog on September 25, 2010 at 1:08 PM

Unlike far too many Rs.

CWforFreedom on September 25, 2010 at 1:09 PM

States should decide if they wish to legalize gambling, prostitution, illicit drug use, gay marriage, and yes, even abortion.

John the Libertarian on September 25, 2010 at 11:55 AM

So homosexuals will be considered married on one state but unmarried in the next?
So people who want to kill their kids can cross the state line & do it legally?
There are some things for which the interstate commerce clause actually does apply, & the right to life set forth by the Declaration should apply to all 50 states.

itsnotaboutme on September 25, 2010 at 1:09 PM

Not when the founding documents say that all men are created equal and are endowed with certain rights by their Creator.
John the Libertarian on September 25, 2010 at 12:14 PM

see pro-life people look at babies as “men” and thus are endowed with the same rights as everyone else

unseen on September 25, 2010 at 1:10 PM

So, his name there-forth is Bill “I’m not afraid to say European socialism works” Maher?

Moesart on September 25, 2010 at 1:10 PM

TheBigOldDog on September 25, 2010 at 1:08 PM

+ One trillion!

Cindy Munford on September 25, 2010 at 1:11 PM

maverick muse on September 25, 2010 at 12:54 PM

Watched it last night, was up nearly all night looking for more from Hillsdale college.

Skandia Recluse on September 25, 2010 at 1:12 PM

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