Obligatory: Chris Christie gets in heckler’s face at Meg Whitman rally; Update: Full video added
posted at 4:11 pm on September 23, 2010 by Allahpundit
Another two or three more viral hits like this, I figure, and he’ll be nominated next year whether he wants to be or not. After all, Ace is right: This guy is a living, breathing test of the theory that unapologetic fiscal conservatism can win anywhere, even in New Jersey. The better he does, the more emboldened weaker-willed Republicans will be to draw the line on spending in their own blue states. And maybe not just on spending.
Two clips here, one of the exchange with the heckler and the other of Christie laying the blame for Jersey’s pension crisis where it belongs. And two ironies to bear in mind as you watch. First, is a guy who’s become a grassroots sensation for his pugnaciousness really the best person to lecture on divisiveness? Maybe so; see Ace’s headline at the link up top for more on that. Second, most people are posting a 30-second clip of the heckler exchange but I’m giving you the full two-minute news story at RCP because it includes an interesting comment from the reporter at the end. Whitman had spoken earlier at the event about needing to show spine, but Christie deprived her of an opportunity to do that here by jumping in to deal with the heckler. He helped his own image but I’m not sure that he helped hers. Click the first image to watch.
| N.J. Gov. Christie: You may hate me now, but ten years from now you'll be sending me a thank you note |
Update: Via the Right Scoop, here’s the full exchange from CNN.
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The unions weren’t being protested. They were countering the protests. And the ad had nothing to do with unions but heckling from conservatives.
I’m not asking you to apologize. I was agreeing with you just not on the idea that conservatives would never do this. How many videos have you seen of liberals heckling candidates at town halls? This is the first I’ve seen.
Esthier on September 23, 2010 at 5:29 PM
HAHAHAHA! Thanks Esthier for the link:
LMFAO! You ended up making my point anyway. HAHAHAHA! Go down to the BOTTOM of that post and you see this:
ASTROTURFING!?! HAHAHAHA! It could be. Nawwww…. That the VERY story you use to prove your point actually shows that Democrats MANUFACTURED the story. Tsk. Tsk.
Sultry Beauty on September 23, 2010 at 5:29 PM
You’re mad. I’m mad. We’re all mad, otherwise we wouldn’t be here.
Cheshire Cat on September 23, 2010 at 5:30 PM
Really? Madhouse? That’s just silly.
MadisonConservative on September 23, 2010 at 5:34 PM
You’re misunderstanding the exit question. The union thugs are the astroturfers, because hiring protestors is exactly that, astroturfing.
Democrats weren’t manufacturing the stories of voters storming Democrat town halls. Those were real. They initially claimed it was astroturf (were you not here during all of this?) as a way of pretending these weren’t real concerns of real citizens. That’s what AP means when he says, “or, like racism, is that sin now wholly the province of the right?” meaning, is it only astroturf when conservatives are doing it?
Esthier on September 23, 2010 at 5:35 PM
And you know what, Christie didn’t pump his fist with that little “inoffensive” thumb in the air that most of these wussy politicians do. He got in the guy’s face and pointed right at him with his damned finger! Oh yeah! Guess he never got the insider memo on that.
Oh, give me the chance to vote for you, Mr. Christie. DO IT!!!!
…but only in a few years when you’re ready.
Pilgrimsarbour on September 23, 2010 at 5:35 PM
How about…..
President Palin
Vice-President Christie
Secretary of State Bolton
Who would the Chief of Staff be?
shomegirl on September 23, 2010 at 5:38 PM
The Fat Man and The Stash 2012
Mallard T. Drake on September 23, 2010 at 5:39 PM
No I think you are mistaken:
Sultry Beauty on September 23, 2010 at 5:40 PM
Ummm… You know. The same kind of tactics that the Left was trying to do by sending Leftist with RACIST signs to Tea Party rallies on tax day? Remember that? Infiltrating to make Conservatives look like their wingnuts.
You people lose your memory fast. 2 years and you’re now piping out the story the Democrats were astroturfing. Beautiful.
Sultry Beauty on September 23, 2010 at 5:43 PM
You seem…upset. Allow me to clarify.
I had no problem with what happened in those town hall meetings. Certainly pales in comparison to Parliament behavior across the globe, that’s for sure. I was proud of our citizenry, even if I thought some of the shouting OVER officials was a bit egregious. I similarly don’t have a real problem with what this man did to Whitman, yes, even if he is a liberal. Was it rude? Sure. But nothing conservatives haven’t done and wouldn’t again. The only difference? We’re right on the issues.
Bee on September 23, 2010 at 5:46 PM
Christie is OK for Jersey but he is NOT pro 2Nd Amendment
Jersey murders so far this season about 376,
Col.John Wm. Reed on September 23, 2010 at 5:47 PM
I’m really not. AP wasn’t directly quoting Ace. Here’s what Ace actually said: I’m so glad we’re finally going to see some real, spontaneous, non-coordinated grassroots responses to these astroturfed displays Republicans are putting on.
That’s very obvious sarcasm. What you’ve posted is proof that Democrats (Think Progress among others) tried to pass off the “mobs” of Republicans storming town halls as fake. I use the word “tried” because it was unsuccessful, as the article goes on to explain.
Esthier on September 23, 2010 at 5:50 PM
I remember when President Obama can out to California for a Barbara Boxer fund raiser and he was heckled by Leftist Gay Rights Advocates about DADT. You mean those kind of right-wing hecklers?
Sultry Beauty on September 23, 2010 at 5:50 PM
Sounds like codependancy. :)
Bee on September 23, 2010 at 5:51 PM
Better yet… how about President Bolton, VP Allen West, Sec State Liz Cheney and RNC Chair Sarah Palin?
Bee on September 23, 2010 at 5:52 PM
Well E, as a recovering Dem let me tell you the neoprog hard left CONSTANTLY does this to Big Dawg, Hillary, anyone they perceive as capitalist sell-outs.
but yeah there is usually also a prolife person heckling Bill too.
both sides do it.
ginaswo on September 23, 2010 at 5:52 PM
Oblivious…….
portlandon on September 23, 2010 at 5:53 PM
West needs more than half a term in the House before going for the big office, but he’s on his way. Just a bit of seasoning and he’ll be ready.
MadisonConservative on September 23, 2010 at 5:53 PM
I’d vote for this guy in a heartbeat — the man is just awesome.
Richard Romano on September 23, 2010 at 5:54 PM
Ahhh…the Great Straw Man General Sultry Beauty is back. Nit picking every little comment again I see. LOL!
Brian on September 23, 2010 at 5:55 PM
Fantasy destroyer.
Bee on September 23, 2010 at 5:55 PM
I am upset. You are all comparing apples to oranges. The Congress was using procedures that were being debated on their Constitutionality. The polling against HCR was over 60%. The constituents demanded that their representatives answer to them about their votes. They demanded to have their voices heard. Time and again, the Democrat representatives told them it was none of their business. Or like Landriu, they shut off their phones. A Conservative got arrested trying to prove that fact too.
Now, Meg is a candidate for office. She was giving a townhall to discuss her views on where she will take California. That’s a far cry from the other situation. There’s NO reason to interrupt or be angry with her. She’s not even in office yet. Additionally, I don’t see conservatives going and talking over Jerry Brown when he’s talking about his views on California. Not the same situation. Not the same level of respect needed.
But if you see the situations as being equal… Again, I’ll say, I can understand how we got where we’re at now and how people like Christopher Buckley, Peggy Noonan, and Colin Powell could listen to empty statements by Pres. Obama and think he was the answer.
Sultry Beauty on September 23, 2010 at 5:59 PM
That’s not the same. You seem to be thinking of an entirely different story here. I’m talking about the town halls, the ones plenty of politicians were too afraid to have that summer. The ones where citizens railed on politicians for for their votes.
When that first happened, people like Nancy Pelosi pretending the “mobs” were all paid actors. Remember?
She did that so that she could pretend the points citizens were bringing up in these town halls weren’t legitimate points. That’s what the whole astroturf thing was about, discrediting the people at these town halls.
I’m not sure you understand what astroturfing is. It’s a play on grassroots, which is an authentic group of citizens responding to something without having been directed to respond to it. Astroturfing, is about fake grassroots (as astroturf is fake grass), i.e., manufactured protesters, paid to pretend that an issue is larger than it actually is, i.e. the unions that were being mobilized to combat genuine grassroots voter anger at politicians.
The Democrats used some astroturf, but they did so in response to legitimate grassroots opposition to their policies and primarily tried to blame Republicans for astroturf that didn’t exist. The infiltrators aren’t astroturf. They were just infiltrators (poor ones at that, considering how obvious they made themselves).
Esthier on September 23, 2010 at 6:00 PM
I’m not a man.
Sultry Beauty on September 23, 2010 at 6:00 PM
I’m off to get my kids from school. I’ll nitpick at you all later.
Sultry Beauty on September 23, 2010 at 6:02 PM
Certainly, which was really my only point. Sultry was getting onto the part about it being a candidate instead of an elected official, which is where I broke with Madison on this being a big deal. I agreed with her that it seems worse to heckle a candidate. I just disagree that a conservative would never do it.
I haven’t heard of many cases where candidates have been heckled, but it seems highly improbable to me that no conservatives have ever done that. We’re just people. Voting R doesn’t make us better individuals. It just makes us Right.
Esthier on September 23, 2010 at 6:02 PM
You must have missed the Presidents last town hall meeting :o)
IowaWoman on September 23, 2010 at 6:17 PM
It’s fairly easy to see why they can’t tell the difference. Obviously they want to compare Tea Partiers with this Professional Trouble Maker! Anything to help out the quisling RINO reputation.
Ogabe on September 23, 2010 at 6:19 PM
Try again. I’m as conservative as they come and a tea partier from the beginning.
Bee on September 23, 2010 at 6:26 PM
Let me use a metaphor that will slice this debate like a hammer:
-There is such a thing as justifiable homicide.
-Justifiable homicide doesn’t make homicide legal.
There’s are reason why a lot of the original commentators are no longer here safe for MadCon. When the knee-jerk reaction is to say hey they both do it equally, you lose a lot of us. That’s like comparing Conservatives to McVeigh to Islamic Terrorists. You simply lose me. A lot of original Conservative commentators here are so vested in their commentary, it’s hard to constantly bombarded with these knee-jerks.
I stick around and “nitpick” because I’m really not that invested in it. Like the original intent and mantra of Hot Air, I come to “VENT”. I do it here, and then go about my day. The people of California love me for doing it. I much more sweetly reasonable. It helps to ensure I’m not one of those so-called “angry Conservative mob” members you think this fella reminds you of.
Over and out… =P
Sultry Beauty on September 23, 2010 at 6:29 PM
I missed all of his town halls. But are you talking about from when he was a candidate?
Esthier on September 23, 2010 at 6:33 PM
How about yesterday, gays heckling Bammie at a townhall for not being radical enough on the gay agenda. It got so bad there that it threw him off his teleprompter.
slickwillie2001 on September 23, 2010 at 6:34 PM
I don’t know what counts as original, but I was here in between (I emailed AP and got in) some of the earliest open registrations. And I see a lot of familiar names here every day.
If you’re talking about me, I’ll only say that you’re engaging in quite a bit of hyperbole. I do believe both conservatives and liberals heckle politicians, and I’ve proven that. I haven’t proven that conservatives heckle candidates, but we don’t even know that this man in this clip is a liberal. Not all conservatives are in love with Meg.
There’s a difference between saying “both sides do it” on this issue and going into full moral relativism, and I don’t see how you serve anyone by conflating the two.
I wasn’t calling them angry conservative mobs. I was explaining that, that’s what they were called. You were saying earlier that it would have gotten attention, and I was just saying that it did.
I don’t recall disagreeing with you before today (in fact, I wasn’t disagreeing with you in this thread except on the issue of whether or not conservatives have ever heckled, which is as silly as wondering whether or not conservatives have ever lied), so I really don’t understand your attitude here.
Esthier on September 23, 2010 at 6:46 PM
Didn’t catch that one either, but Obama’s not still a candidate. He’s an elected official.
Esthier on September 23, 2010 at 6:47 PM
Sorry. From now on, I’ll be sure and make it clear that liberals are the same as terrorists and mass murderers, so comparing liberals to conservative is just gratuitous equivocation.
MadisonConservative on September 23, 2010 at 6:50 PM
Valley girls are dirty socialist folk music hippies. :P
MadisonConservative on September 23, 2010 at 6:51 PM
Valley girls?
Esthier on September 23, 2010 at 6:53 PM
No longer a candidate? Could have fooled me. Maybe it’s all those fundraisers and townhall meetings. Someone should let him know.
slickwillie2001 on September 23, 2010 at 7:01 PM
I think this will help Whitman. We’re known (or become known) by the company we keep, right Obama?
SouthernGent on September 23, 2010 at 7:02 PM
Some should.
Esthier on September 23, 2010 at 7:08 PM
I might be from California. Don’t tell.
Bee on September 23, 2010 at 7:25 PM
RINO.
MadisonConservative on September 23, 2010 at 7:34 PM
Ms. Whitman now has a dilemma: either chastise Gov. Christie for making her look weak or thank him for his chivalry and still look weak, unfit to run for a political leadership position.
Send_Me on September 23, 2010 at 8:16 PM
Did not know that. And on top of that, someone from Madison is calling you a RINO. I thought I knew you!
Esthier on September 23, 2010 at 8:25 PM
Hi Allahpundit;
Christie gets one thing TERRIBLY WRONG:
Nobody will be looking up his address on the internet in ten years to send him a thank you note:
They will just send it to the White House.
reliapundit on September 23, 2010 at 8:49 PM
The Unstoppable Governaut.
Jorge Bonilla on September 23, 2010 at 9:37 PM
Win.
YehuditTX on September 23, 2010 at 11:25 PM
You beat me to it. Why would he think he has to defend her??
DanaSmiles on September 24, 2010 at 8:31 AM
I’m honestly a geographical mutt, you could say. Born in Santa Barbara (where my parents lived in “common” (a cooperative), then moved to Massachusetts, then NC. If hippie liberalism were an airborne virus, I’d be screwed.
I thought I told you that! :)
Bee on September 24, 2010 at 8:37 AM
She’s in no dilemma. It had nothing to do with her and everything to do with Cristie and the heckler. Anyone who sees it otherwise is a partisan hack looking for anything they can find, no matter how simple-minded and ridiculous, to paint her in a negative light.
Rod on September 24, 2010 at 8:53 AM
I’m not an Obama fan but that’s just cruel.
RINO in Name Only on September 24, 2010 at 9:37 AM
See???
And I may be in Madison, but I came from Walworth County, and went to college at UW-Platteville. Red areas both. You’re positively cobalt.
MadisonConservative on September 24, 2010 at 9:59 AM
Commentator in first clip appears to be from the left (Why Fox is Fair and Balanced).
The second clip, shows the primary tactic of the left, and Gov. Christie shows how to put descent into its proper perspective (place).
Approach the demonstrator in a confident manner.
Make and do not lose eye contact.
Be direct but do not talk down to them.
Take and maintain control of the situation.
Do not engage in a shouting match.
Remain in charge
Repeat their words when responding
When finished let them know the conversation is over and they have two choices – leave or sit down and listen.
Remember, the left and others like them, are doing nothing more than trying to fill a void (they want to be noticed).
MSGTAS on September 24, 2010 at 10:29 AM
You assume a lot. I was merely commenting on the inconsistancy of feminists who appreciate the chivalry of men, yet can’t stand the fact that it makes them appear dependent upon men for something. You can’t have it both ways. Would Christie have felt the need to do this for, say, Arnold? John McCain? If he’d done it for Palin, they’d probably say, “wow, what a gentleman”, yet where would that have left Palin? Do you see the problem yet?
Send_Me on September 24, 2010 at 10:42 AM
That only testifies to my resilient Conservative constitution, then, for having endured daily exposure to liberalism in my formative years. I have tremendously strong immunity now to every strain of liberal disease possible.
You were sheltered. You’re probably much weaker than me, in fact. :)
Bee on September 24, 2010 at 11:10 AM
Yes, I do see the problem. Apparently you haven’t noticed that Christie speaks his mind no matter where he is or who he’s with.
As for assumptions, how about you go ahead and assume he required some underlying need to speak out in defense of her and I’ll assume he didn’t.
And then let’s both assume we agree that if one believes in gender equality, they’d never see this particular event as some sort of defense of the weaker sex but rather an equal speaking his mind – which was my first impression – and still is.
Rod on September 24, 2010 at 11:20 AM
If you’re looking for a fistfight, you’re gonna get one, pal.
MadisonConservative on September 24, 2010 at 11:24 AM
Bring it.
And, “pal?”
Bee on September 24, 2010 at 12:03 PM
That’s right. I brung it, hung it, and flung it, pal.
MadisonConservative on September 24, 2010 at 12:14 PM
I didn’t think conservatives hit girls, anyway. Does calling me “pal” make it easier? :P
Bee on September 24, 2010 at 12:24 PM
They don’t…unless the girls like it.
Shall I say more? :P
MadisonConservative on September 24, 2010 at 12:30 PM
Um……..nope. Got it! Thanks! haha. ;)
Bee on September 24, 2010 at 12:34 PM
Skuffle in the Lutheran sponsored debate in Las Vegas between Angle and Reid as the few Reid supporters left loudly and early while Angle made her final comment and the fat ladies literally stepped on a conservative’s toes.
maverick muse on September 24, 2010 at 1:12 PM
Does it matter at all that the protester is right?
The Arnold in a Dress criticism applies.
papertiger on September 24, 2010 at 2:18 PM
See Whitman thinks AB32 is about protecting the environment, instead of what it’s really about, protecting Al Gore’s stock portfolio.
You can’t fix stupid.
Brown wants to protect green jobs at the Los Angeles Times, San Francisco Chronicle, the Sacramento Bee, and GE twisty light factories in China.
Here in California we are stuck with an election between Tweedle dumb and Tweedle dumber.
papertiger on September 24, 2010 at 2:46 PM
Christie HAS to run for president in 2012. I believe he is the only one with a sack big enough to fix this mess.
PLEASE RUN IN 2012!!!
76United on September 24, 2010 at 3:39 PM
Oh, and NO Palin! Let her be a fundraiser, but keep her out of any legislative decisions.
76United on September 24, 2010 at 3:41 PM
Interesting.
So is Christie admitting he would have been opposed to all the yelling and screaming at last years’s town hall meetings as well?
AprilOrit on September 24, 2010 at 4:25 PM
…and he’s a gentleman too?! I’m swooning!
mizflame98 on September 24, 2010 at 11:32 PM
The epitome of private citizen being yelled at by highly paid elected official.
Ah, good times. Those were the good ol’ days.
mizflame98 on September 24, 2010 at 11:43 PM
Who knew Roy Schneider was such an angry man?
Advocate For Change on September 26, 2010 at 9:08 PM
And in ten years his home address just might be 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. :) :) :)
Theophile on September 27, 2010 at 3:57 PM
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