Rasmussen: Voters feel closer to Palin than Obama, 52/40

posted at 12:55 pm on September 20, 2010 by Ed Morrissey

And it’s not even particularly close.  In a revealing portrait of likely voters in this midterm cycle, a majority of respondents to Rasmussen’s survey say that Sarah Palin more closely represents their point of view than does Barack Obama.  The man who won the 2008 presidential election, on the other hand, only resonates with four in ten likely voters:

Fifty-two percent (52%) of Likely U.S. Voters say their own views are closer to Sarah Palin’s than they are to President Obama’s, according to a new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey.

Just 40% say their views are closer to the president’s than to those of the former Alaska governor and Republican vice presidential candidate.

Among the Political Class, however, 68% say their views are more like Obama’s, while 63% of Mainstream voters describe their views as more like Palin’s.

Interestingly, in the same survey, Palin only gets a 48% favorable rating, with a 49% unfavorable rating.  That seems to indicate that while some voters think she represents their values, they may not be as supportive of her as a candidate.  Similarly, respondents are almost exactly split on whether Palin is good for the GOP, 40/39, with 20% unsure.  They’re also somewhat less likely to vote for a candidate endorsed by Palin (27%) than to support one endorsed by her (16%), with 55% saying it makes no difference.

However, on values, Palin clearly comes up aces against Obama.  She beats Obama among both men (55/37) and women (48/43).  She has majorities in every age demographic, even an 18-point majority among Obama’s core constituency of college-age voters (18-29YO, 52/34).  Fourteen percent of Democrats choose Palin, and she wins handily among independents by more than 2-1, 59/27.  She only loses in two income categories, both by pluralities: under $20K (40/42), and $60-75K (41/49).

How’s that Hopey Changey thing working out for Barack Obama?  Apparently, rather poorly.  As long as Palin’s on the stump — and she has been constantly in the public eye — she appears to trump Obama handily.


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A lot of voters would be delighted to feel close to Palin.

NNtrancer on September 20, 2010 at 12:57 PM

“Palin 2012. Accept no substitutes.”
–Emperor Norton

Emperor Norton on September 20, 2010 at 12:57 PM

This doesn’t bode well for Hilary.

belad on September 20, 2010 at 12:57 PM

Wow. And that’s with 2 years to go to the next presidential election.

I think those who say Palin could never win might want to rethink. I admit, she has a lot of minds to change to win, but she is certainly moving in the right direction.

Monkeytoe on September 20, 2010 at 12:58 PM

Smack!

j_galt on September 20, 2010 at 12:59 PM


Among the Political Class, however, 68% say their views are more like Obama’s, while 63% of Mainstream voters describe their views as more like Palin’s.

This says it all.

fesofee on September 20, 2010 at 12:59 PM

That can’t be right. I have it on good authority that Sarah Palin committed political suicide when she resigned her governorship last year.

Kensington on September 20, 2010 at 1:00 PM

Well, if Palin wants to run it’s entirely up to her to over come the media and change peoples minds.

darwin on September 20, 2010 at 1:00 PM

Authenticity trumps audacity.

What you see is what you get with Palin.

Bruno Strozek on September 20, 2010 at 1:00 PM

Further proof that the Rasmussen poll is suspect to say the least.

TruUSA on September 20, 2010 at 1:01 PM

Right now, her job is to push general conservative principles and campaign for conservative candidates. But if/when she herself is a candidate, we’ll get to see her in a different light.

She’ll be able to communicate a positive, forward-thinking plan for our nation and I believe she can win over many of those who don’t see her in that role yet.

powerpro on September 20, 2010 at 1:01 PM

I’ve always said 2012 was Øbama’s to lose. Unless he figures out that he’s the president of the US and not Venezuela, he is toast.

Kafir on September 20, 2010 at 1:01 PM

I think those who say Palin could never win might want to rethink.

Monkeytoe on September 20, 2010 at 12:58 PM

That, or double down on the negative stories. You know, like they’re doing with Christine O’Donnell.

Kensington on September 20, 2010 at 1:01 PM

Bombshell!

Lefties go into full panic mode now.

petefrt on September 20, 2010 at 1:01 PM

Wow. And that’s with 2 years to go to the next presidential election.

I think those who say Palin could never win might want to rethink. I admit, she has a lot of minds to change to win, but she is certainly moving in the right direction.

Monkeytoe on September 20, 2010 at 12:58 PM

Right…but isn’t that the point of a campaign?

powerpro on September 20, 2010 at 1:01 PM

Not surprising. If he wanted to poll better, maybe he should ateast TRY and not act like an effete elitist who can’t be bothered to listen to the concerns of the plebeians.

Now, watch him hit this drive.

Vyce on September 20, 2010 at 1:02 PM

Much has been said about the GOP not having a front runner for 2012
Who could the DNC tout ?
Claire Mccaskill ?

ELMO Q on September 20, 2010 at 1:02 PM

From Jan. 2010, this is how Rasmussen defines Mainstream and Political Class:

65% Now Hold Populist, or Mainstream, Views

The questions used to calculate the Index are:

– Generally speaking, when it comes to important national issues, whose judgment do you trust more – the American people or America’s political leaders?

– Some people believe that the federal government has become a special interest group that looks out primarily for its own interests. Has the federal government become a special interest group?

– Do government and big business often work together in ways that hurt consumers and investors?

To create a scale, each response earns a plus 1 for the populist answer, a minus 1 for the political class answer, and a 0 for not sure.

Those who score 2 or higher are considered a populist or part of the Mainstream. Those who score -2 or lower are considered to be aligned with the Political Class. Those who score +1 or -1 are considered leaners in one direction or the other.

INC on September 20, 2010 at 1:02 PM

If this stays true Obama will be a one time President either way. Democrats will dump him for someone else.

Sultry Beauty on September 20, 2010 at 1:02 PM

Those indie numbers are pure, tasty nightstick.

Christien on September 20, 2010 at 1:03 PM

Barack Cuda!

The Mega Independent on September 20, 2010 at 1:03 PM

Allahpundit hardest hit!!

WhatsRight on September 20, 2010 at 1:03 PM

This is only the beginning………(even though the Hillbilly from Wasilly is so freaking totally so unelectable).

BTW,
Polls mean nothing this far out.

PappyD61 on September 20, 2010 at 1:04 PM

But if/when she herself is a candidate, we’ll get to see her in a different light.

powerpro on September 20, 2010 at 1:01 PM

Right, she’s going to rebuild the Reagan coalition. The feathers will fly when she brings aboard the MOR GOP and moderate Dems.

petefrt on September 20, 2010 at 1:05 PM

Authenticity trumps audacity.

What you see is what you get with Palin.

Bruno Strozek on September 20, 2010 at 1:00 PM

PALIN…..”The AUTHENTICITY of Hope”

PappyD61 on September 20, 2010 at 1:05 PM

Among the Political Class, however, 68% say their views are more like Obama’s, while 63% of Mainstream voters describe their views as more like Palin’s.

RINO/BIG Government/Donkey alert!

Ogabe on September 20, 2010 at 1:07 PM

So when they attack Palin, they are saying the Obama is even worse?
Bumper sticker:
Obama–worser than I thought

right2bright on September 20, 2010 at 1:08 PM

If this stays true Obama will be a one time President either way. Democrats will dump him for someone else.

Sultry Beauty on September 20, 2010 at 1:02 PM

Not unless they want to call themselves racist.

NNtrancer on September 20, 2010 at 1:08 PM

But how will this affect Michelle’s children?

Urban Infidel on September 20, 2010 at 1:09 PM

The NEW 52%! I’m gonna like this group a lot better.

james23 on September 20, 2010 at 1:09 PM

It has begun….

shomegirl on September 20, 2010 at 1:10 PM

Well, if Palin wants to run it’s entirely up to her to over come the media and change peoples minds.

darwin on September 20, 2010 at 1:00 PM

Certainly. And if this poll is accurate, it would seem that a majority of voters might be open that.

Esthier on September 20, 2010 at 1:10 PM

Smells like napalm..

the_nile on September 20, 2010 at 1:10 PM

Just when you think that you are the one who is crazy, the american people let you know that you are NOT.

Hey Obama..BOOM Taste her NIGHTSTICK.

Dan Pet on September 20, 2010 at 1:10 PM

Tokyo Rove and Sauerkraut summoned to WH for super double top secret skull session.

james23 on September 20, 2010 at 1:11 PM

Allahpundit hardest hit!!

WhatsRight on September 20, 2010 at 1:03 PM

And David Brooks.

And Charles Krauthammer.

And Peggy Noonan.

And hordes of Hot Air commenters, too, quite frankly.

Kensington on September 20, 2010 at 1:13 PM

Kensington on September 20, 2010 at 1:13 PM

I’ve loaded up on boxes of Kleenex for them.

kingsjester on September 20, 2010 at 1:14 PM

If Palin gets the nomination the world will fall off its axis and the magnetic polls will reverse.

-NinjaPirate

portlandon on September 20, 2010 at 1:15 PM

Does this just mean the voters have allowed the liberal/media spin to affect them? Basically aren’t they saying “Yes I agree with Palin’s positions because they are mine but, but, she’s unelectable because she’s too extreme.”

katiejane on September 20, 2010 at 1:17 PM

Right, she’s going to rebuild the Reagan coalition. The feathers will fly when she brings aboard the MOR GOP and moderate Dems.
petefrt on September 20, 2010 at 1:05 PM

Oh, so we moderates ARE welcome.

Vyce on September 20, 2010 at 1:17 PM

Oh, so we moderates ARE welcome.

Vyce on September 20, 2010 at 1:17 PM

Just take your shoes off, we just replaced the carpet.

portlandon on September 20, 2010 at 1:17 PM

Certainly. And if this poll is accurate, it would seem that a majority of voters might be open that.

Esthier on September 20, 2010 at 1:10 PM

My wife dislikes Palin although she’d vote for her. I asked her why and she proceeded to repeat … almost verbatim … the medias meme and current strategy on attacking Palin.

Now she undestands how the media pushes propaganda but until I pointed it out to her, didn’t realize she had been propagandized.

Personally I think Palin knows how to use the media to get her message out without it being to slanted by the media.

darwin on September 20, 2010 at 1:18 PM

She can win if she repairs her image with independents. She has plenty of time–looking forward to her new book.

TimTebowSavesAmerica on September 20, 2010 at 1:18 PM

If Palin gets the nomination the world will fall off its axis and the magnetic polls will reverse.

-NinjaPirate

portlandon on September 20, 2010 at 1:15 PM

And the dead will rise and vote in chica… oh well, thats just business as usual.

the_nile on September 20, 2010 at 1:18 PM

This is what campaigns are for. The great thing about Palin is that she knows how to operate on terrain that is to her liking.

victor82 on September 20, 2010 at 1:18 PM

Oh, so we moderates ARE welcome.

Vyce on September 20, 2010 at 1:17 PM

Can explain to me what a “moderate” is?

darwin on September 20, 2010 at 1:19 PM

Allahpundit wont sleep well tonight.

WoosterOh on September 20, 2010 at 1:19 PM

How can anyone feel “close” to Obama. There are probably only one or two people besides Michelle and Jarrett who actually know him.

forest on September 20, 2010 at 1:20 PM

It`s a Palin post……. So does this mean Ed hates Sarah Palin?

ThePrez on September 20, 2010 at 1:20 PM

Can you imagine what those numbers would be if those polled actually knew what her positions are, as opposed to the media/Dem meme that she’s extreme?

This poll tells me that if she decides to run, she needs to emphasize her leadership qualities and how she would direct her governing team to solve problems.

If she runs and wins the nomination, I think sheshould do something that’s never been done. I think she should announce who will fill critical positions in her administration. We know who surrounds Obama. If Palin were to unveil her choices for her economic advisors and her foreign relation advisors, and maybe 2-3 major cabinet members, she’d be able to demonstrate how she can be successful as President.

She’s not a typical politician and she doesn’t need to act like one to win over the people.

NoNails on September 20, 2010 at 1:21 PM

In conventional parlance that is called a LANDSLIDE!

lilium on September 20, 2010 at 1:21 PM

MAD MEN PASSION INDEX! Obama would totally rate a “joint”!

Mutnodjmet on September 20, 2010 at 1:21 PM

35% of the public would always support a liberal Democrat, where did they get the other 5%?

burt on September 20, 2010 at 1:21 PM

Awesomeness!

I like Palin but I haven’t thought she was a potential political candidate after the smear campaign that the MSM did on her.

I never thought this would happen.

I’m forced to be skeptical of the polling.

shick on September 20, 2010 at 1:21 PM

Allahpundit wont sleep well tonight.

WoosterOh on September 20, 2010 at 1:19 PM

Well , the O’Donnell ban on masturbation could scare anyone..

the_nile on September 20, 2010 at 1:23 PM

I think what Ed points out after the quote is key. People feel closer to her, and maybe exactly the same on most issues, but they aren’t necessarily going to vote for her. She’s good for the country, and good for the GOP, but I have serious doubts about her future as a president. She’s like Hillary in the sense that she’s extremely polarizing. Either you really like her you really don’t. Some people just hear the name Palin and their instant reaction is bile.

p40tiger on September 20, 2010 at 1:24 PM

These are very good numbers to build a winning 2012 campaign on. And it would be fairly safe bet that Palin’s numbers will only improve from now on; while Obowma’s will only deteriorate.

What matters at this early stage in the nomination battle is name recognition and fund raising ability. Palin has plenty of both. Anyone who doesn’t at this stage will have no chance in 2012. It looks like the field will be limited to Palin, Romney, Gingrich and maybe Huckabee.

Norwegian on September 20, 2010 at 1:25 PM

DeMint said it. If the GOP doesn’t want to vanish, they need to open their eyes and understand that a large segment of the American populace has been re-awakened to the original form of United States government, that OF THE PEOPLE. As long as the “establishment” attempts to continue dictating to us how things must be, they will be surprised when that stops working.

The party which is first able to embrace the groundswell of Common Sense, will be the party which is able to hold power, power granted BY THE PEOPLE, for a long time.

We know that it can’t be the Democrats, as infused as they have become with the Marxist/Socialist idiom, and their desire to work only for their own power, never FOR THE PEOPLE they claim to represent. The question remaining, then, is will the Elephants “get it” before a third party rises up and stands for patriots across the nation?

Freelancer on September 20, 2010 at 1:26 PM

Can explain to me what a “moderate” is?

darwin on September 20, 2010 at 1:19 PM

A person who thinks only with their wallet.

KinleyArdal on September 20, 2010 at 1:26 PM

Chief Justice Roberts: ” …so help you, God?”

President Sarah Palin: “So help me, God”

Thunderous applause erupts from the crowd assembled on the National Mall.

Former president Barry Soetoro nowhere to be seen, rumors of his fleeing to Kenya circulate amongst the crowd.

turfmann on September 20, 2010 at 1:27 PM

That can’t be right. I have it on good authority that Sarah Palin committed political suicide when she resigned her governorship last year.

lol

Polls may mean nothing this far out but this sure does…

golfmann on September 20, 2010 at 1:27 PM

Oh, so we moderates ARE welcome.

Vyce on September 20, 2010 at 1:17 PM

Yeah, you’re welcome to keep supporting Obama and his policies like you always do.

tetriskid on September 20, 2010 at 1:27 PM

She’s like Hillary in the sense that she’s extremely polarizing. Either you really like her you really don’t. Some people just hear the name Palin and their instant reaction is bile.

p40tiger on September 20, 2010 at 1:24 PM

Most people dislike her not because she’s polarizing … but because of the media. Anyone who’s looked at her governing record shows she’s anything but polarizing.

darwin on September 20, 2010 at 1:27 PM

Country music star Trace Adkins was on TV the other day saying he “loves Sarah Palin to death” but doesn’t think she should run for Prez, because “she has become a punch line”. I don’t know if it’s that she can see Russia from her house, or her accent, or her poor performance in the Katie Couric interview, or her lack of a top-tier advanced education, that she resigned as gov of AK, that her daughter Bristol had a child out of wedlock by a jerk, or what. I don’t know what he’s talking about. I assume he’s associating himself with how she’s been savaged by the MSM since she was selected VP nominee. But where is the reasoned argument that she’s a “joke”?

Paul-Cincy on September 20, 2010 at 1:28 PM

Polarizing!

The Republican nominee will win in 2012, whoever it is. Why order Zima when you can have the champagne?

CUDA 2012 – accept no substitutes.

Ted Torgerson on September 20, 2010 at 1:30 PM

If Palin aces those primary debates she’ll have alot of new voters on her side imho…

LurkerDood on September 20, 2010 at 1:30 PM

It`s a Palin post……. So does this mean Ed hates Sarah Palin?

ThePrez on September 20, 2010 at 1:20 PM

Not unless he starts posting ‘wink’ pictures.

Lanceman on September 20, 2010 at 1:30 PM

Have any of you ever taken a position that palin is in favor of and Obama disagrees with, then switched the names around and asked a (non-political) buddy who they agree with? It’s funny as hell and also an easy way to point out to someone that they are literally brainwashed by the media and they don’t even realize it. I have heard some talk radio guys do it to callers many times.

Mord on September 20, 2010 at 1:31 PM

Palin 2012 – lets roll!

long_cat on September 20, 2010 at 1:31 PM

Palin and their instant reaction is bile.

p40tiger on September 20, 2010 at 1:24 PM

Most people dislike her not because she’s polarizing … but because of the media. Anyone who’s looked at her governing record shows she’s anything but polarizing.

darwin on September 20, 2010 at 1:27 PM

I agreed that the media is to blame but she’s still strongly disliked. The media is not going to let up on her either. She’s a “radical rightwinger” in the eyes of many and is likely to stay that way.

shick on September 20, 2010 at 1:32 PM

4 in 10? American Voters?

Dr Evil on September 20, 2010 at 1:33 PM

Overall, I think most people like Palin, agree with her and see her as a down-to-earth person they can see much in common with. My only question about her, and many feel the same, is whether or not she’s ready and qualified to be President. This nation already made the mistake of voting for someone just because they found him “likable” and the media did everything in its power to dismiss and silence everything that screamed what a disaster he’d be.

Yakko77 on September 20, 2010 at 1:33 PM

Personally I think Palin knows how to use the media to get her message out without it being to slanted by the media.

darwin on September 20, 2010 at 1:18 PM

I’d agree, but straight reporting doesn’t always do a politician well either. That’s why press secretaries are helpful and important.

Esthier on September 20, 2010 at 1:34 PM

I agreed that the media is to blame but she’s still strongly disliked. The media is not going to let up on her either. She’s a “radical rightwinger” in the eyes of many and is likely to stay that way.

shick on September 20, 2010 at 1:32 PM

By 2012 people wont listen to media.

the_nile on September 20, 2010 at 1:34 PM

Remind me again who’s extreme…

BadgerHawk on September 20, 2010 at 1:34 PM

One thing I think may be true here is most of those that do not support Obama are still in the closet about it, they dont talk about it to many but their inner-circle. Wait till we all feel free to say it out loud, and that time is getting close. Then these numbers will really switch, that is what happened to Bush. Everyone was saying it out loud, and those that supported him started to clam up and went into the closet. Now you see them coming out with the “Miss me yet” signs, and people love it.

WoosterOh on September 20, 2010 at 1:35 PM

Most people dislike her not because she’s polarizing … but because of the media. Anyone who’s looked at her governing record shows she’s anything but polarizing.

darwin on September 20, 2010

Yes. Her governance style seems to be one of a leader who brings factions together to get things done. One thing…she is universally underestimated every time she runs for something.

JonPrichard on September 20, 2010 at 1:36 PM

Never heard of Sarah…Palin, is it? Is she some sort of political dynamo from somewhere?

Bishop on September 20, 2010 at 1:37 PM

It’s time for this again:

Every once in a while I visit the Indiana University Water Cooler Discussion board. Today I saw a post over there that I thought would be of interest here. Keep in mind that most of the posters there are ultra liberal, so I’m sure it made their heads explode.

Here it is:

CO. Hoosier, I’m not even sure that I can be classified as a “Palin fan”, but I am kind of an observer. An old school buddy of mine has worked within the Alaska legislature for the last twenty years or so. He’s a registered Democrat and has worked on projects that allowed him to cross paths with her going back when she was a city commissioner, as the mayor, and as the governor.

He told me that the picture painted of her as a mindless ideologue is about 180 degrees off base. He said that over the years, he’d probably dealt with her a couple of dozen times and that her input and/or decisions were always supported by law and not by personal beliefs.

The thing he told me about her that really peaked my interest of her was her ability to process information and then to quickly forge a plan with the information she was given. He said she was a living, breathing CPM chart. He said he had seen her on multiple occasions on a variety of subjects instantly absorb input from others and then respond with cogent solutions to problems. He said if you put her in a room with a bunch of people, the chances would be great that she’d be the smartest one in the room.

He told me that when he saw her debacle with Katie Couric, his first thought was, “who is that Sarah Palin imposter?” He said that was not the Sarah Palin he had worked with for years. He was sure that the interview was highly edited. It came out later that there was almost six hours of the interview that people didn’t see.

He told me that if I really wanted to get a feel of who she is and how she dealt with powerful people, I should read the book, “Sarah Takes On Big Oil”. It was released in October, 2008 and written by two of the state’s top oil & gas editors. The lady they described had no fear to stand toe-to-toe with heavyweights and leave them slinking away with their tails between their legs. She told them that she was the advocate of the citizens of Alaska and there would be no deal making that would adversely affect them. The big boys at Exxon-Mobile and BP folded like a cheap suit.

One other thing he told me that still amazes him was how she managed to get people to work together. According to him, she could take two people with opposing opinions, sit down with them, listen to them, offer her solutions, and both guys would leave happy and not feeling that they had compromised their position at all.

He laughed at the “she doesn’t read” meme. He said it is well known in the capitol that she was a voracious reader. She truly did read most of the national mags and newspapers, mostly on line, as well as a dozen or so energy trade magazines. According to him, there were stories about how she would take home stacks of papers and reports to prepare for a next-morning meeting and it was as if every word of those reports were stamped into her brain when she sat down at the meeting.

He told me not to be fooled by her syntax or her colloquialisms because they were not a fair barometer of her smarts. He said if people would just listen and not try to read between the lines, she was easy to understand. He said he’d love to see her and Obama in a debate about energy or even healthcare. He said she’d clean his clock. He even said that if she were given a day or two to prepare for a debate on foreign affairs, his money would still be on her.

He said she was the epitome of a leader. She assembled her staff, listened to their advice, allowed opposing ideas to be heard, and then acted accordingly. As a manager, she advocated making a plan based on the best info available, budgeting the plan, working the plan, measuring results, and quickly adjusting the plan if it was determined it wasn’t working as expected. She believed in the First Law of Holes.

He thought her biggest struggles in the 2008 campaign were the product of trying to endorse McCain’s positions on issues. She was able to voice her dissenting opinion on ANWR because her views were known, but on everything else she was expected to toe the McCain line. He said that she lacked the ability to shovel crap and sell it as perfume.

He reminded me that anyone who denies the accuracy of her “death panel” metaphor should go back and read her exact words, both her initial FB post and her rebuttal of Obama’s attack on her words. He said “read what she wrote, not what someone wrote or said what she wrote”. Her words in those posts have already been proven to be true.

He said that “divisive” is not a word that should be used to describe her. He said that was just a simple use of Alinsky’s rule #13. He said, “look at all the issues. Her position is in line with the majority on virtually all of them”.

He told me she wasn’t perfect, but if I read something or heard something that was negative, I should check it out a little closer. He shared a lot more, but I’m afraid I’ve already rambled on for too long.

Should she run in 2012? I really don’t know. Would I vote for her? It depends who she’s running against. Will she drive the agenda if she doesn’t run? Yes, for a long time.

NoNails on September 20, 2010 at 1:37 PM

Oh, so we moderates ARE welcome.

Vyce on September 20, 2010 at 1:17 PM

Yup. Dollars to donuts says that’s her instinct and her plan. I think if you want to preview her approach to coalition-building after November, take hints from Glenn Beck’s approach over the past year.

After all, she’s fiscally conservative and her values are traditional American values, and so are MOR GOP and moderate Dems. It’s the Øbama ‘progressives’ whose values and economics are alien.

petefrt on September 20, 2010 at 1:37 PM

She’s a “radical rightwinger” in the eyes of many and is likely to stay that way.

shick on September 20, 2010 at 1:32 PM

Yeah … but I think she can change that.

darwin on September 20, 2010 at 1:38 PM

ignorance on both sides seems to be the blame. If you look at Obama you get uneasy as there are many gapping holes. If you look at Palin, you see a normal american life or what was once normal for older americans and a dream for others.

Some people can’t deal with normal.

upinak on September 20, 2010 at 1:39 PM

Testing

gophergirl on September 20, 2010 at 1:39 PM

pundits hardest hit allah.

so much for the meme her support is an inch wide and a mile deep.

unseen on September 20, 2010 at 1:40 PM

Can explain to me what a “moderate” is?
darwin on September 20, 2010 at 1:19 PM

Someone who says that the GOP needs to win seats at any cost, then turns on the primary winner because that person isn’t who they wanted to win.

Bishop on September 20, 2010 at 1:40 PM

One thing…she is universally underestimated every time she runs for something.

JonPrichard on September 20, 2010 at 1:36 PM

People who know her, who’ve come up against her say that all the time but no one listens. That’s good. If they do listen they have no idea how to take her on except with the standard lies and personal attacks.

darwin on September 20, 2010 at 1:40 PM

Right…but isn’t that the point of a campaign?

powerpro on September 20, 2010 at 1:01 PM

Not sure what your point is?

Monkeytoe on September 20, 2010 at 1:41 PM

so 52% of americans are the extreme right wing?

ROFL…..

unseen on September 20, 2010 at 1:41 PM

Among the Political Class, however, 68% say their views are more like Obama’s, while 63% of Mainstream voters describe their views as more like Palin’s.

Fortunately, there are many, many more of us (“mainstream” voters) than there are of them (the “political class”).

UltimateBob on September 20, 2010 at 1:41 PM

Someone who says that the GOP needs to win seats at any cost, then turns on the primary winner because that person isn’t who they wanted to win.

Bishop on September 20, 2010 at 1:40 PM

Oh … so that’s a moderate. Hmmmm

darwin on September 20, 2010 at 1:41 PM

The key finding:

52% of unaffiliated (independent) voters FAVOR Palin.

Again 52% of indies give Palin the thumbs up.

Two memes go down to Davy Jones’ locker: Palin is too polarizing too attract independent support and that Palin is UNELECTABLE.

By the way Obama got 52% of the independent vote in 2008. Most polls show him at around 40% or in the high 30′s now with indies. In the Gallup weekly summary released today it’s at 40% with all indies including those who lean to one party or another. With pure independents (not leaning) it’s at 37%.

To put a perspective on Palin’s numbers, Reagan was found in a poll at the end of March of 1980, 8 months before the election, to be 25 points behind Carter and 8 months later we all know what happened, Reagan won in a landslide.

For those who are anti-Palin on our side or skeptics or doubting Thomases, there is no way Palin is even close to being that far behind Obama; in fact she might be even slightly ahead of him right now.

technopeasant on September 20, 2010 at 1:41 PM

Oh, so we moderates ARE welcome.
Vyce on September 20, 2010 at 1:17 PM
Can explain to me what a “moderate” is?
darwin on September 20, 2010 at 1:19 PM

I’d define a moderate Republican as someone who’s fairly conservative on fiscal issues and on the expansion of federal gov’t, but more of a liberal on social issues. And health care would NOT be a social issue.

Vyce on September 20, 2010 at 1:42 PM

Some people can’t deal with normal.

upinak on September 20, 2010 at 1:39 PM

People have been trained to believe that their politicans must come from Harvard, speak a certain way, wear expensive suits and have perfect hair.

darwin on September 20, 2010 at 1:43 PM

Someone who says that the GOP needs to win seats at any cost, then turns on the primary winner because that person isn’t who they wanted to win.

Bishop on September 20, 2010 at 1:40 PM

+1 the moderates in middle/high school where the geeks and whimps that ran and told the teacher and when playing ball they would take their ball and go home. they wanted everyone to like them and never understood why most people avoided them….

unseen on September 20, 2010 at 1:43 PM

Palin is now seen as more electable than Mitt.

But it is by no means clear that Obama can “put the band back together.” Re-electing the first black president isn’t as exciting as electing him for the first time, and younger voters who flocked to vote for him in 2008 might be less thrilled in 2012. If you put in the 2004 exit poll numbers – somewhere between the 2008 and likely 2010 numbers, the head-to-heads are quite a bit worse for Obama. He trails Huckabee 49-42, Romney 45-44, and trails Palin 47-44 and trails Gingrich by a narrow 45.3-44.8 margin.

Only huck tops her mostly because he has been keeping quiet lately. Head to Head Palin buries huck once their stands on issues is known. hucks big gov compassionate conservatism would be destroyed by reagan conservatism

unseen on September 20, 2010 at 1:46 PM

But I thought the Dems had this all figured out. Run ads attacking Palin and the Tea Party, because America LOVES their dear leader.

WoosterOh on September 20, 2010 at 1:47 PM

Have any of you ever taken a position that palin is in favor of and Obama disagrees with, then switched the names around and asked a (non-political) buddy who they agree with? It’s funny as hell…..

Mord on September 20, 2010 at 1:31 PM

Didn’t one of Howard Stern’s lackeys do something like that during the 2008 election season? They went out into the streets of Harlem to ask the locals their opinions. Hilarity ensued.

UltimateBob on September 20, 2010 at 1:47 PM

victor82 on September 20, 2010 at 1:18 PM

Oh, so we moderates ARE welcome.

Vyce on September 20, 2010 at 1:17 PM
Can explain to me what a “moderate” is?

darwin on September 20, 2010 at 1:19 PM

Let me help you out, darwin – a moderate is a liberal!

silvernana on September 20, 2010 at 1:48 PM

I’d define a moderate Republican as someone who’s fairly conservative on fiscal issues and on the expansion of federal gov’t, but more of a liberal on social issues. And health care would NOT be a social issue.

Vyce on September 20, 2010 at 1:42 PM

Ok, understand though that it’s the government that has now defined “morality” in the US. The reason some people have social issues is because the government has intruded on what was once society’s responsibility.

Secondly, no one is running on social issues. Everything is small government, fiscal sanity and cutting spending.

Thirdly, social liberalism is at odds with fiscal conservatism because social liberalism costs money, a lot of money. Social liberalism takes up over two thirds of the national budget.

darwin on September 20, 2010 at 1:48 PM

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