Countdown begins: How long before Olympia Snowe leaves the GOP?
posted at 3:35 pm on September 17, 2010 by Allahpundit
C’mon. We all know it’s coming.
Visibly sad, Snowe called Castle “an outstanding public servant who was committed to the common good of his state and country.”…
At times, as the Maine Republican talked about this issue, she became exasperated.
“Ideological purity at 100 percent is a utopian world and I don’t know who lives in utopia. I’ve never lived in utopia,” said Snowe.
I asked about the argument her GOP colleague Sen. Jim DeMint made to me a day earlier in his office, that Americans no longer want what he called “mushy” lawmakers in the middle.
“What works in South Carolina and Delaware may not work in Maine. We all have different views. We’re independent,” Snowe responded, “I can’t go back to the people of my state and say, excuse me, I have to be one hundred percent ideologically pure because someone has dictated that from another state. It just wouldn’t wash,” she said.
She’s up for reelection in 2012 and no doubt will be tea-party enemy number one next cycle. Here’s her dilemma: Does she stick with the GOP in the expectation that grassroots anti-establishment enthusiasm will diminish once the Republicans are back in power? She’ll be primaried regardless, but as McCain proved, it’s possible for a RINO to survive a challenge from a “true conservative.” Or does she decide that the big push to defeat Obama will keep grassroots enthusiasm sky high in 2012, in which case she’s in mortal peril of going the way of Bob Bennett and Murkowski? If she does jump ship, she’s better off doing it sooner rather than later. The longer she waits, the more it’ll look like she’s acting purely opportunistically, out of fear of losing, than making a stand on principle. The specter of Specter looms large!
An early warning sign, perhaps, from the Anchorage Daily News:
Murkowski said she’d found some support among fellow senators, even if none was openly telling reporters they would back her write-in bid.
“The encouragement is, ‘Do what is right,’ ” Murkowski said colleagues told her. “And that’s ultimately what you look to do. Do what is right for the people that you represent and your state and yourself, your family. If you do what’s right, all is good.”
Sen. Olympia Snowe, R-Maine, a moderate senator, wouldn’t disclose what sort of conversation she had had with Murkowski Thursday, other than to say that “she’s a great colleague and a friend as well.” But Snowe also said Thursday that the Republican Party wouldn’t achieve a majority with the tea party alone. It would also require moderate Republicans like herself, Snowe said, and members “across the range of political philosophy.”
Follow my thinking here. Scott Brown’s also up next cycle and is surely worried about the primary. Collins may already be pondering her chances in 2014. Ben Nelson’s broken with Democrats on all sorts of votes over the past six months to atone to Nebraskans for the Cornhusker Kickback, and Mark Pryor must be nervous about the unholy beating Blanche Lincoln is about to take in Arkansas. And of course, Joe Lieberman’s been a man without a party for four years. Put ‘em all together and how’s this for a radical possibility: Now that they’ve got a critical mass, what if the RINOs and DINOs huddle and decide to form … an independent caucus? They could point to the growing power of independents among the electorate, claim that the lesson of this year is that Americans are tired of “politics as usual,” blah blah blah. They could buy some political cover for themselves by insisting that they’ll continue to vote with their respective former parties on most issues, but henceforth they’ll caucus together in the interest of common ground and “solutions” and so forth. For maximum effect, they’d all have to switch together; any one of them peeling off alone would be thought of as treason, but everyone peeling off together is a Movement. And having RINOs join DINOs in defecting and vice versa softens the blow of the betrayal among each side’s base. The Kossacks would go nuts if Ben Nelson split and grassroots righties would go nuts if Scott Brown split, but if they both split together then the balance of power between the parties stays the same and everyone’s a bit more chill.
I assume it won’t happen, partly because it’s unprecedented and partly because splitting means they’ll each have to face three-way crapshoot elections in their home states the next time they’re up. But if they think they’re doomed in the primaries, what do they have to lose? Besides, there’s a slim chance — emphasis on slim — that two more independents will be joining them next year. If the Dems make a deal somehow to back Crist, he can still beat Rubio. And based on what I’m seeing on the wires at the moment, it looks like Murkowski is going ahead with her write-in campaign. Exit question: What if, by scaring off Snowe, Brown, et al., O’Donnell’s win actually costs the GOP control of the Senate? Revenge of the RINOs?
Update: Hmmmmmmmmm.
There’s still room for centrists in the Republican Party, the party’s Senate campaign chief said Friday…
“Absolutely,” Cornyn said when asked if centrists are welcome. “People have to understand that this country is a big, diverse country, and not every region and every state is the same.”
“I think what matters is what the voters in Maine and what the voters in the individual states think about the senator or the candidate,” Cornyn said of how senators such as Susan Collins (R-Maine) might handle the prospect of a Tea Party challenge in 2012.
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The best way to ban someone is to ignore it.
HAL is now on my Banned List.
davidk on May 19, 2013 at 11:52 AM
On the other hand:
Keep Hot Air Liberal
1. When the latrine is full we need some where to take a leak.
2. When we do not have the time to check out the talking points of the loon left of blogs like Kos Kid Kult (KKK) we just read HAL post.
3. Do not let HAL take over threads as often. When there is play time , play it and see what the borg is up to, sort of free intel.
4. It is possible we may get a better foil later , a liberal with some thinking parts intact and at that point HAL would become even more useless to us.
5. Cheap fun.
APACHEWHOKNOWS on May 19, 2013 at 11:53 AM
Sometimes dissenters provide a service that they force us to strengthen and refine our arguments.
HAL–not so much. Its comments are devoid of content.
davidk on May 19, 2013 at 11:54 AM
… service in that …
davidk on May 19, 2013 at 11:56 AM
Interesting essay on the oxymoron of h0m0marriage: http://allengil.freeshell.org/marriage.html
davidk on May 19, 2013 at 11:58 AM
“Judicial Watch, a leading government open records organization, announced today that it has filed suit on behalf of Legal Insurrection to obtain documents regarding David Gregory’s violation of the District of Columbia gun laws and the investigation which led to the decision of the District of Columbia Attorney General not to prosecute…”
http://legalinsurrection.com/2013/05/legal-insurrection-and-judicial-watch-file-suit-to-obtain-david-gregory-gun-law-violation-documents/
workingclass artist on May 19, 2013 at 12:01 PM
No Hillary Clinton?
Could she be hiding something aside from her pervert hubby and fat ankles?
IlikedAUH2O on May 19, 2013 at 12:04 PM
sigh.. you sir, are the cooler head.. and almost certainly right.. I had already promised not to rise to the bait, but as you said, it’s hard. Especially when a good name is trashed by a ghoul for sport..
I’ll try and follow your example..
and my apologies to Hotair for loosing my temper like that, and the commenters who deserve better of me.. but my apology ends there..
on that note.. hal can just imagine the words in my head about his lack of social skills.
I’ll try and do better.
mark81150 on May 19, 2013 at 12:07 PM
One liberal blog thinks Hillary is being helped by Benghazi.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2013/05/16/witness_the_devastating_impact_the_benghazi_story_has_had_on_hillary_clinton.html
IlikedAUH2O on May 19, 2013 at 12:11 PM
Libfreeordie is living and breathing proof of a truth I discovered years ago; The phrase “liberal twit” is an inherent redundancy. It takes a special brand of sophomoric pseudo-intellectualism to be a liberal to begin with, and they just keep building on that foundation until they eventually graduate into full blown multi-variate morons.
Lew on May 19, 2013 at 12:13 PM
davidk on May 19, 2013 at 12:14 PM
Off at a spa drying out, losing weight and getting a second facelift.
Watch her show up at Dem-only venues for a re-debut into public life.
Wethal on May 19, 2013 at 12:17 PM
I never hated Hillary and respected the battle made against President Obama during the campaign by her staff and her supporters. The fact that it went on even after the prominent blacks and media turned on them was really impressive since, as for Democrats, that is the equivalent of a two week old fetus living outside the womb.
Last night I was lectured on:
1) Hillary and O hatching the weird video story in a late phone call.
2) Both of them wanting the continued void to continue to exist as to what exactly they were doing while Benghazi was being slaughtered.
3) Our president’s comment on “no there, there” was the conclusion of (a result of?) a massive check for (scrubbing of?) incriminating records in concert with Hill’s folks.
So I expected the newly prepared and fresh innocents to be out talking.
IlikedAUH2O on May 19, 2013 at 12:27 PM
They must be clairvoyant.
I found this five minutes ago, well maybe ten:
Even in the conservative press, it has become received wisdom that President Obama was AWOL on the night of September 11, after first being informed by Defense Secretary Leon Panetta, in the late afternoon, that the State Department facility in Benghazi was under attack. You hear it again and again: While Americans were under attack, the commander-in-chief checked out, leaving subordinates to deal with the crisis while he got his beauty sleep in preparation for a fundraising campaign trip to Vegas.
That is not true . . . and the truth, as we’ve come to expect with Obama, is almost surely worse. There is good reason to believe that while Americans were still fighting for their lives in Benghazi, while no military efforts were being made to rescue them, and while those desperately trying to rescue them were being told to stand down, the president was busy shaping the “blame the video” narrative to which his administration clung in the aftermath.
Jay Carney first revealed the existence of the phone call and the time in February. Hillary Clinton confirmed she spoke to Obama “later that evening.” What was said between the two?
We now know from the e-mails and TV clips that, by Sunday morning, the White House staff, State Department minions, and Susan Rice were all in agreement that the video fairy tale, peppered with indignant rebukes of Islamophobia, was the way to go.
How do you suppose they got that idea?
The theory makes sense. What’s more, there may be a phone log of the conversation and what was discussed in the records of both principles.
That would be a fascinating document to discover.
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2013/05/m-phone_call_between_hillary_and_obama_may_be_genesis_of_anti-muslim_video_lie.html
IlikedAUH2O on May 19, 2013 at 12:30 PM
I’ve never seen so members of the State Run Media defend the IRS…hmmm.
d1carter on May 19, 2013 at 12:31 PM
http://whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/BODIES.html
davidk on May 19, 2013 at 12:32 PM
This guy needs a glass of cold water and a hug.Just dont pop a vein with all hate.
HotAirLib on May 19, 2013 at 12:33 PM
This explains why your Democrat Media has been afraid to do “polling” on Benghazi. There has only been one such “poll” since early December of 2012.
By the way, that new “poll” shows that nearly half of Americans are following the Benghazi story, despite your desperately wishing it would all go away. And that is a Leftist PEW poll, so you can’t shoot the messenger.
Del Dolemonte on May 19, 2013 at 12:36 PM
Cold glass of water and a hug needed by this one.
Any volunteers or will libfree come through for us?
Bishop on May 19, 2013 at 12:36 PM
Romney won the college graduate vote in 2012. Your guy won 80% of high school dropouts.
Del Dolemonte on May 19, 2013 at 12:37 PM
Edited for accuracy.
Del Dolemonte on May 19, 2013 at 12:41 PM
I check Firefox Add-Ons regularly for an ‘ignore’ function that would work with Drupal, haven’t found one yet. (Hint for you software guys out there.)
slickwillie2001 on May 19, 2013 at 12:42 PM
Laugh, laugh.
This liberal thinks Hillary has been helped by Benghazi. Yes, helped !
Oh, I was informed that the site was correct about the last POTUS election.
Someone was concerned enough to poll…
http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2013/05/16/witness_the_devastating_impact_the_benghazi_story_has_had_on_hillary_clinton.html
IlikedAUH2O on May 19, 2013 at 12:42 PM
There’s more hidden on the Clinton Crime Family than not.
slickwillie2001 on May 19, 2013 at 12:45 PM
Unbelievable: http://www.wnd.com/2013/05/doj-on-gays-silence-will-be-interpreted-as-disapproval/
davidk on May 19, 2013 at 12:45 PM
“Burglar locks homeowner in gun closet” thread now timewarped back to May 10th.
slickwillie2001 on May 19, 2013 at 12:46 PM
Has anyone checked this out? http://www.bing.com/search?q=Egyptian+chariots+strewn+across+the+sea+floor&form=MOZSBR&pc=MOZI
davidk on May 19, 2013 at 12:48 PM
“What is there to like?” is always a question for the left.
Even “low info” voters have an impression of the IRS and Dems have run from it in public since Roosevelt’s time. Not that they don’t love to use it as a hammer.
Anyone who has ever sent in a return knows the IRS has two strikes before they pick up a bat.
Those guys can easily be pro choice since they never had cold steel rip their limbs as a fetus or lived a day in a clinic and watched the action.
IlikedAUH2O on May 19, 2013 at 12:48 PM
http://conservbyte.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Big-Dawg-590-LI.jpg
davidk on May 19, 2013 at 12:50 PM
slickwilley 2001,
Seems like the google boiler room crew has plummers messing with the inflow outflow lines inside Hot Air .com….
APACHEWHOKNOWS on May 19, 2013 at 12:59 PM
What is your point?
We don’t have a sea to cross and place to go when DHS is chasing us down with their armored cars and ammo. (Which they bought with our money.)
Check your history.
Prior slave populations were much better off for an escape than Jews under Hitler or whites and Christians in the US today.
We have no other aspects of slavery? Check out affirmative action and job prospects for young folks today while they pay off college loans to the liberals.
Are you feeling it?
We are totally stuck!
All we have is our guns and they are trying to take them (And I’m not even worried about background checks, you wait and see what they want to do!)
Correct me if I am wrong.
I’m a gone and grateful for the venting opportunity about ole Hillary. Whom I never hated till lately, like 1990.
IlikedAUH2O on May 19, 2013 at 1:04 PM
and it thinks I need a hug?
ok..
nice to see my opinion confirmed,,, carry on good sir.. I’ll leave it to an expert troll trainer.
mark81150 on May 19, 2013 at 1:12 PM
wierd
APACHEWHOKNOWS on May 19, 2013 at 1:15 PM
That would be a low hug.
tom daschle concerned on May 19, 2013 at 1:17 PM
Another day, another HA thread polluted with troll turds.
farsighted on May 19, 2013 at 1:22 PM
Hillary and Biden are awful taciturn lately.
Schadenfreude on May 19, 2013 at 1:29 PM
google bing and ask them what’s up…
APACHEWHOKNOWS on May 19, 2013 at 1:30 PM
Obama hates the middle class, did, does, and always will.
Obama lives the life of the 1%rs and supports them in full. They brung him and they keep him. It’s the biggest foolery he’s performing in front of yer eyes. The leftists are too stupid to see.
Schadenfreude on May 19, 2013 at 1:33 PM
This brainless scumhag doesn’t know what irony is.
Schadenfreude on May 19, 2013 at 1:35 PM
Best part, lots of HA Capitalism, even if he breaks the HA posting ‘rules’ and is allowed to get away with it, every thread.
It’s like the Clift congress constitution thread. Who cares? Everything goes, so long as communism and Capitalism flourish.
Schadenfreude on May 19, 2013 at 1:43 PM
This azzhole has it wrong. The question is not “bla, bla, bla, fix…bla, bla, bla”.
The job of Obama is to prevent this from happening, you incredible fool. Pfeiffer is an incredible Goebbels.
Obama, Hillary and Biden are in hiding.
This ship is rudderless.
Enjoy, world and USA. You brung this idiocy upon yourself. May PC eat you all, alive, slowly.
Schadenfreude on May 19, 2013 at 1:48 PM
Thank you, my friends.
HAL, it must really stink to be you. I pity you.
kingsjester on May 19, 2013 at 1:52 PM
H/t VegasRick
Schadenfreude on May 19, 2013 at 2:01 PM
Ruh-Roh, HAL, CNN came out with a “poll” today, and a majority of Americans (55%) now say that Benghazi is very important.
http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2013/images/05/19/rel6a.pdf
Very Important = 55%
More Bad News for HAL:
Could Have: 59%
That’s up 11 points from their previous “poll” last December.
And finally:
Overreacting: 37%
Reacting Appropriately: 59%
I didn’t bother to look for their “polling sample” but they usually oversample Democrats.
Del Dolemonte on May 19, 2013 at 2:14 PM
So Obama gets a 53 percent approval rating in a CNN poll in which only 24 percent of the respondents were republicans and they think that is good news for him? They think that gives him a reservoir of good will? Democrats in the sample weighed in at 33 percent and independents (liberals who wanted to make sure they got counted) were over 40 percent.
Is also appears from the numbers that women and non-whites were heavily over sampled. I can’t even believe they are out there running with these numbers.
NavyDavy on May 19, 2013 at 2:23 PM
Crunching the numbers, I’m coming up with 305 dems in the poll, 221 repubs, 397 indies (yeah, right).
I’m getting 295 or so non-whites and 628 or so whites.
First off, how do you have only 305 dems in a crowd with 300 non whites?
I have not extrapolated the male/female numbers yet…
NavyDavy on May 19, 2013 at 2:54 PM
I’m coming up with approx 510 men and 413 women fwiw.
NavyDavy on May 19, 2013 at 3:12 PM
You all don’t think they’d put out a crap poll to support Zero, do you?
dogsoldier on May 19, 2013 at 4:21 PM
Dude! All I wanted to know is has this been peer reviewed and verified or debunked.
What’s your point?
davidk on May 19, 2013 at 4:21 PM
Here’s where Obama, Holder, Hillary, et al all belong.
The scourge needs to be scourged.
And purged.
D-emetic-rats
profitsbeard on May 19, 2013 at 4:51 PM
They load this poll data into an Excel program and adjust the D/R/I weighting until they get the approval results that they want, then hit Save, Print.
slickwillie2001 on May 19, 2013 at 7:10 PM
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