Rove: I’m not the establishment!

posted at 1:36 pm on September 16, 2010 by Ed Morrissey

Karl Rove answered his critics today on Fox News, where — as Rove notes — he works as a political analyst. His outside job, Rove explains, focuses on political campaigning, organizing, and fundraising. In order to maintain credibility, Rove says he has to speak plainly in his role as an analyst, which is why he offered criticism of Christine O’Donnell and Delaware Republicans the past two days. However, Rove insists that he supports the Tea Party and is not a member of the GOP establishment at all, and he makes some good points in this exchange:

I sympathize with Rove, certainly. Bloggers on both sides of the partisan divide have the same conundrum; when does analysis end and advocacy begin? That’s a tough question, and it does go to credibility in each role.

On the other hand, Rove had plenty of time before the primary to make his case about O’Donnell, and did, as an analyst. After it became clear that O’Donnell won the contest, he could have balanced his observations with more insight into Chris Coons, for instance, and perhaps used a more objective tone than he did that evening at the prospect of an O’Donnell candidacy. Rove does take the opportunity to retract the story that Fox reported that night about the supposed NRSC rejection of O’Donnell — although the NRSC’s denial certainly could be self-serving after the avalanche of criticism they got from that leak.

In the end, I think O’Donnell takes the right approach. Karl Rove has worked tirelessly for at least two decades to elect Republicans in good times and in bad, as part of the establishment while at the White House and with the grassroots later. Part of unity after the primaries is burying the hatchet on petty squabbles. It makes no sense to demonize Rove forever after one bad night, just as it makes no sense to keep picking at the Castle v O’Donnell argument after the primary election concluded. Let’s just focus on winning seats on November 2nd with the candidates selected by voters in their own primaries.


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Geez … karl musta got smacked around quite a bit. I say lay off karl, he’s a good guy.

darwin on September 16, 2010 at 1:38 PM

Walk it back, Karl… WALK IT BACK!!

Khun Joe on September 16, 2010 at 1:39 PM

Of course he’s the establishment.

changer1701 on September 16, 2010 at 1:39 PM

This has got to be one of the biggest reversals in political history. My gosh, Rove must have gotten thousands of emails and calls bashing him for dissing Christine.

BTW, latest attack from the Left on our gal Christine just launched minutes ago… She’s got a Lesbian sister living in Los Angeles. That Lesbian slam worked so well for Kerry on Bush/Cheney in 2004 ya know.

ericdondero on September 16, 2010 at 1:40 PM

Karl does Michael Jackson… M O O N W A L K it back

phreshone on September 16, 2010 at 1:40 PM

Well, Turd Blossom, if you aren’t, you did a pretty good impression.

Bruno Strozek on September 16, 2010 at 1:40 PM

Ooh…the kitchen is too hot!

Gob on September 16, 2010 at 1:41 PM

Rove would be a great mind in O’Donnell’s corner, but he has to go beyond lip service in recognizing the importance of his party’s base. This is what the Republicans of the state of Delaware want. This is who they will support in November. This is what Rove, as well as Castle, have to get through their thick heads in the next six weeks. Or they can definitely kiss that ten-seat majority in the Senate goodbye. “The fault lies not within the stars …”

manwithblackhat on September 16, 2010 at 1:41 PM

Pedal faster, Karl.

Cylor on September 16, 2010 at 1:41 PM

Well, Karl Rove IS the establishment, but he did a bang-up job when he sub-hosted for Rush a few months ago. He’s alright, overall.

DaydreamBeliever on September 16, 2010 at 1:43 PM

Rove is a damned liar.

Tokyo Rove …

Now he wants to tell us … “Uhm … I was just faking it?”

Hell – I know when Tokyo Rove is getting off and he was not faking it when slamming O’Donnell.

And – sorry Rove – you are ESTABLISHMENT.

HondaV65 on September 16, 2010 at 1:43 PM

So if decades working inside the Republican Party to get Republicans elected doesn’t mean that you are part of the establishment, what does?

Is there some sort of super secret handshake that Karl doesn’t know? Some secret meeting spot that he can’t enter? Someone bigger who is pulling the strings?

Lily on September 16, 2010 at 1:44 PM

LOL. “Tokyo Rove” feels the heat of the nuclear blasts aimed at him for his petty, sore loser, ad hominem, meltdown, attacks on O’Donnell in repeated appearances on FNC the last few days. I heard him say he would support O’Donnell the other day. Yes he said it, just before he went into a lengthy diatribe exposing her alleged “lack of moral rectitude”.

Nice try at spinning your way out of it, Karl, but it won’t work. Fox won’t fire you, but the rest of us have- figuratively speaking.

JimP on September 16, 2010 at 1:44 PM

manwithblackhat on September 16, 2010 at 1:41 PM

Hee-hee. Love the ending quote!

Gob on September 16, 2010 at 1:45 PM

Prescription Drug entitlement?

Nah, he’s not part of the establishment.

/s

Known it for years…

mankai on September 16, 2010 at 1:45 PM

Rove you magnificent bastard.

Rebar on September 16, 2010 at 1:45 PM

Karl Rove answered his critics today on Fox News, where — as Rove notes — he works as a political analyst. His outside job, Rove explains, focuses on political campaigning, organizing, and fundraising. In order to maintain credibility, Rove says he has to speak plainly in his role as an analyst, which is why he offered criticism of Christine O’Donnell and Delaware Republicans the past two days.

Hard to claim he doesn’t have a conflict of interest if he is being paid for his outside services, then uses his bully pulpit on Fox to disparage cnadidates who oppose his employer. Maybe it is coincidence,..maybe not.

a capella on September 16, 2010 at 1:45 PM

Karl: C’mon let me in the club…pleeeeze??? I wanna play too!

Fighton03 on September 16, 2010 at 1:46 PM

It is interesting that everyone either attacks or praises him.

No middle ground, what-so-ever.

upinak on September 16, 2010 at 1:46 PM

“I’m not the establishment!”? REALLY? The guy who was the primary political adviser for the President for 8 years and who was a huge part of a lot of strategies within that timeframe isn’t part of the establishment?

teke184 on September 16, 2010 at 1:46 PM

Yeah, the headline is pretty hysterical.

It also puts paid on the theory that this was tactical.

Which means he loses credibility as a MB.

But… if he’s willing to work with us (and note the direction of that relationship), it can still work out.

Scott H on September 16, 2010 at 1:46 PM

I am willing to give Rove a pass for making this one mistake; just don’t do it again.

Beer summit?

TN Mom on September 16, 2010 at 1:46 PM

Nice try at spinning your way out of it, Karl, but it won’t work. Fox won’t fire you, but the rest of us have- figuratively speaking.

JimP on September 16, 2010 at 1:44 PM

+100

Norwegian on September 16, 2010 at 1:46 PM

My problem with Rove is he kept repeating the LIES about O’Donnell, like her since corrected IRS issues, along with the truth.

DO YOUR HOMEWORK, Karl.

On the stuff that was true, like taking 15 years to pay off her college, that makes him sound elitist, because many, many of us “normal” folk are in that same boat.

He needs to stop and walk in her shoes for a bit and do his research. Polls shouldn’t be his only grounds for his statements.

PastorJon on September 16, 2010 at 1:46 PM

I sympathize with Rove, certainly. Bloggers on both sides of the partisan divide have the same conundrum; when does analysis end and advocacy begin? That’s a tough question, and it does go to credibility in each role.

Back to Rush’s point… when has he ever pulled that “analysis” line when popping a cap in the Democrats? Oh yeah, he’s rather genteel in his analysis of the Left… no conundrum there.

mankai on September 16, 2010 at 1:46 PM

Can’t put the toothpaste back in the tube, no matter how much the Repub establishment wishcasts.

Christien on September 16, 2010 at 1:46 PM

Well, Karl Rove IS the establishment, but he did a bang-up job when he sub-hosted for Rush a few months ago. He’s alright, overall.

DaydreamBeliever on September 16, 2010 at 1:43 PM

I don’t think he’ll be hosting Rush’s show again.

Also – he’s not “alright” – these damned Allatollahs are a bunch of anti-democratic thugs and bullies – and he defends them. We see now they were only lying about “got a have a majority”.

If they believed that – they would not have dumped on her either before or after her win. And Rove is lying about the report from Fox being wrong.

John Cornyn was watching Fox news when it was reported and didn’t even pick up the phone to tell them that the story was incorrect – because – it was absolutely correct.

It wasn’t until the next morning when Cornyn started getting phone calls from DeMint wing Senators who all told him this …

“You want a war now John?”

HondaV65 on September 16, 2010 at 1:47 PM

cnadidates

should be candidates

a capella on September 16, 2010 at 1:47 PM

O/T OMG Mitt is now just becoming a freaking joke.

Among the candidates Romney is backing is Senate nominee and former state attorney general Kelly Ayotte, the establishment candidate who narrowly edged out the more conservative Ovide Lamontagne, who enjoyed the backing of many Tea Party activists.

who is he going to endorse for the 2004 POTUS election Bush?

the guy is a joke.

unseen on September 16, 2010 at 1:48 PM

I will believe this when you show me a list of Republicans who proudly admit to being part of the establishment.

Kafir on September 16, 2010 at 1:48 PM

LIAR!, LIAR!, LAIR! How stupid does he think we are? Oh that’s right, he part of the GOP and they all think we are stupid!

flytier on September 16, 2010 at 1:48 PM

Well after you have already flashed your teats, it’s really hard to put the picture back.

tarpon on September 16, 2010 at 1:48 PM

Christine was the DE voter’s choice, and Karl basically called the voters stupid.

That’s tough to walk back…

kakypat on September 16, 2010 at 1:48 PM

Rove can go F off. Rush Limbaugh was right – Rove never criticized Democrats as hard as he did to O’Donnell. His sympathies lie with the establishment and he IS the establishment. Rove can go to hell.

Sydney Carton on September 16, 2010 at 1:48 PM

Sorry Ed, no dice.

To paraphrase a business saying — One Oh Shit can wipe out a lifetime of AttaBoys. Well Rove uttered the OS Tuesday night.

He owes ODonnell a public apology and he should work on her campaign pro bono, win or lose. Otherwise I turn my back on the man.

Dr. Dog on September 16, 2010 at 1:49 PM

BTW, latest attack from the Left on our gal Christine just launched minutes ago… She’s got a Lesbian sister living in Los Angeles. That Lesbian slam worked so well for Kerry on Bush/Cheney in 2004 ya know.

Lefties still haven’t figured out that people on the right don’t give a damn about this kind of thing as long as it doesn’t end up causing problems due to identity politics.

People didn’t turn on Cheney over his gay daughter. People didn’t turn on Gingrich over his gay half-sister. Etc., etc., etc.

The only politician that really got turned on over gay issues was Sen. Craig from Idaho and that was because of his “wide stance” incident which he tried to cover up and then reneged on an agreement to resign.

teke184 on September 16, 2010 at 1:49 PM

He’s part of the Bush team: Rockefeller Republicans; good on defense, but in favor of a “kinder, gentler” form of Communism.

They only want to be on the bus as long as they get to DRIVE it. Make no mistake: there will be a lot more kicking and screaming, and more than a few additional attempts at running us into a ditch.

But eventually we’ll get them all settled down and seated quietly back where they have always belonged. And then EVERYONE will finally be able to enjoy the ride.

logis on September 16, 2010 at 1:49 PM

Rove’s tirade the other night was completely uncalled for.

I hope Fox dramatically reduces his appearances. He can stand in line behind Gergen at CNN or become a whipping boy for the evening idiots on MSNBC.

I just don’t care to hear from him anymore.

BuckeyeSam on September 16, 2010 at 1:50 PM

I’m a big Martha fan

Oil Can on September 16, 2010 at 1:50 PM

good sign the pressure on Castle to endorse O’donnell just went up. I give the GOP elites till the weekend to get over it and get with the program. Lisa needs to endorse Miller too.

the guys that pull the strings in Dc better convey this message loud and lcear or we will practive MAD in 2012 to any RINO that wins any race.

unseen on September 16, 2010 at 1:50 PM

Hey, Karl, we’ll stop pimp-slapping you when you shut your piehole about the nominee. Deal?

OhioCoastie on September 16, 2010 at 1:50 PM

Rove’s plan to pander to Hispanics to achieve a permanent GOP majority placed his party’s good above the good of the country, and I’ll never quite shake that. Pursuit of a permanent majority is a dangerous folly for the nation. What Washington needs is more turnover and creative destruction, and not less.

DFCtomm on September 16, 2010 at 1:51 PM

It is interesting that everyone either attacks or praises him.

No middle ground, what-so-ever.

upinak on September 16, 2010 at 1:46 PM

standing on the fence gets you shot at from both sides.

Fighton03 on September 16, 2010 at 1:51 PM

BTW, latest attack from the Left on our gal Christine just launched minutes ago… She’s got a Lesbian sister living in Los Angeles. That Lesbian slam worked so well for Kerry on Bush/Cheney in 2004 ya know.

ericdondero on September 16, 2010 at 1:40 PM

How liberal and progressive of the left!

Don’t ever let them use the terms without single-quotes. Impertinence and hypocrisy in their quarters have never been higher.

On Coons, he’s a marxist. All one has to know.

Schadenfreude on September 16, 2010 at 1:51 PM

Lay off Rove. He’s entitled to his opinion…of which, prior to his sacrilegious distaste for O’Donnell’s candidacy, most of you shared.

How about some…unity? Goes both ways.

Bee on September 16, 2010 at 1:51 PM

“…after one bad night”

Ed, Ed, Ed, you’re reporting on Rove two days after the bad night. He’s still unapologetic, equivocating, and oily as a used car saleman. I found this interview very, very unimpressive.

MaxMBJ on September 16, 2010 at 1:51 PM

Walk it back, Karl… WALK IT BACK!!

Khun Joe on September 16, 2010 at 1:39 PM

beeeeeep………beeeeeep………beeeeeep……….

/garbage truck sounds

UltimateBob on September 16, 2010 at 1:51 PM

What Washington needs is more turnover and creative destruction, and not less.

DFCtomm on September 16, 2010 at 1:51 PM

DC is definitely suffering from an excess of yin.

Fighton03 on September 16, 2010 at 1:52 PM

Republican leaders have to decide if they want the tiny fraction of furious voters who have showed up at the primary polls to steer them into the swamp for years ahead. They have a chance to repudiate the worst of the Tea Party crowd and show that they can govern without appealing to the basest political instincts. So far, they have preferred to greedily capitalize on the nuclear energy in the land without considering its destructive effects.

Yeah, those same folks at the New York Times who have been telling us for years that every vote must be counted at least once, if not more, even dead voters. The same folks who stand idly by while the DOJ turns a blind eye to Section 8 of the Motor Voter law, to civil rights violations to people of non-color. And now they are fearful of angry voters; their votes should not shape the future. Get that .. voters shouldn’t decide where the Republican Party goes .. where the country goes … what a bunch of f’ing Communists. NUTS !! I say.

J_Crater on September 16, 2010 at 1:52 PM

Ok Karl – I will let you in the door – now your actions will determine if you can stay.

jake-the-goose on September 16, 2010 at 1:53 PM

Ed, Ed, Ed, you’re reporting on Rove two days after the bad night. He’s still unapologetic, equivocating, and oily as a used car saleman. I found this interview very, very unimpressive.

MaxMBJ on September 16, 2010 at 1:51 PM

Being compared to Rove is an insult to decent, all-American oily used car salesmen everywhere.

UltimateBob on September 16, 2010 at 1:53 PM

The establishment right, incl. Rove, did Christine a huge favor.

Her handling of them has been superb.

Schadenfreude on September 16, 2010 at 1:53 PM

……….and I just read the end of Ed’s post which urged unity. *blushes*

That comment wasn’t intended to Ed himself. but to commenters who viciously attacked O’D detractors. :)

Bee on September 16, 2010 at 1:53 PM

Other than all that, how was the spanking Sarah gave you, Karl?

BradSchwartze on September 16, 2010 at 1:54 PM

Look I don’t hate Karl, but he ain’t grassroots. In fact he has spent a lot of years counting on the grassroots for support while spitting in their eye.

He never has respected the political clout of the little people. And likly never will.

conservnut on September 16, 2010 at 1:54 PM

Bee on September 16, 2010 at 1:51 PM

Of course he’s entitled to his opinion, and those who are upset with him are entitled to theirs. Goes both ways…

kakypat on September 16, 2010 at 1:54 PM

“one one hand…” “on the other hand”… bullshite. He’s an elitist. We’re now watching two political-tectonic plates converging, the tea party and the elites. The latter is old and brittle and breaking under the pressure, and as it breaks it will reveal a thousand sharp little edges.

rrpjr on September 16, 2010 at 1:55 PM

Other than all that, how was the spanking Sarah gave you, Karl?

BradSchwartze on September 16, 2010 at 1:54 PM

oohhhhhhh……bad visual!!! mind bleach!!!!

Fighton03 on September 16, 2010 at 1:55 PM

*facepalm*

It’s a wave, Karl, not something an architect designed. Stop trying to get out front of this. Would somebody please take Karl surfing already and teach him how to ride a wave?

Christien on September 16, 2010 at 1:55 PM

And that “lack of moral rectitude” charge. Please. Rove just dumped his wife of many years. Does he feel the same need to dump on Gingerich (divorces), W. Bennett (gambling), Limbaugh (drug addiction, serial monogamy), G.W. Bush (former alcohol probs), Boehner (smoking), etc.?

Drop the moral flag, buddy. Now.

MaxMBJ on September 16, 2010 at 1:55 PM

I’m a big Martha fan

Oil Can on September 16, 2010 at 1:50 PM

Oh yeah.

Cute, perky, great sense of humor. Very “girl-next-door.”

UltimateBob on September 16, 2010 at 1:55 PM

It is interesting that everyone either attacks or praises him.

No middle ground, what-so-ever.

upinak on September 16, 2010 at 1:46 PM

He was up to his eyeballs in dubya’s amnesty effort. Rove wanted those Hispanic voters as bad as the donks do. He’s just another pitiful Dick Morris. They had their day in the sun, were lucky on some stuff, and, now, they can’t bear losing the gru label. Political consultants are for sale and they dare not lose their marketability.

a capella on September 16, 2010 at 1:55 PM

Next thing I am waiting for is for Rove to offer to work for O’Donnell since he is such a genius and now that she has over $1 million to work with. That would be a typical Karl Rove move… the lousy backstabbing weasel.

PhilipJames on September 16, 2010 at 1:56 PM

Rove is NOT a supporter of the Tea Party Patriot movement. He is just another Washington Elitist who HATES the fact that Americans have had enough of him, the GOP, the Communist styled Democrats, and he knows it today.

Rove has shown his true colors, and eventually he will understand our message. You have failed America and we are the answer to your failures, so sit down, get out of the way, and let us do our work. Your day is done!

DannoJyd on September 16, 2010 at 1:56 PM

I hope Fox dramatically reduces his appearances. He can stand in line behind Gergen at CNN or become a whipping boy for the evening idiots on MSNBC.

I just don’t care to hear from him anymore.

BuckeyeSam on September 16, 2010 at 1:50 PM

Krauthammer set the example for constructive criticism on this topic. Rove crossed the line from analysis to establishment attack dog.

DFCtomm on September 16, 2010 at 1:57 PM

Bee on September 16, 2010 at 1:51 PM

Karl deserves the beat down he is getting. IF he gives legitimate mea culpas and does penance, then we’ll let him back in from the doghouse. Meanwhile, he shows a “lack of moral rectitude” with his Slick Willie impression claiming he’s not part of the establishment and that he said he would support O’Donnell and leaving out his blatant attacks on her.

JimP on September 16, 2010 at 1:57 PM

Guys like him lost me a long time ago when I first heard the words “compassionate conservative” which is just another way of saying RINO sellout.

First he doubles down, then he starts backing off, then he starts listing his conservative credentials? Blah, Blah, Blah, etc.

I guess it is a good thing that Palin wears a skirt, so RINOs can run and hide behind it by associating their name with hers to beef up their so-called “conservative” credentials.

I ain’t buying it.

Done That on September 16, 2010 at 1:57 PM

“I’m a big Tea Party fan.”

I’m a big Conservative principles fan.

Not a lot of that in the video.

Speakup on September 16, 2010 at 1:57 PM

It’s a wave, Karl, not something an architect designed. Stop trying to get out front of this. Would somebody please take Karl surfing already and teach him how to ride a wave?

Christien on September 16, 2010 at 1:55 PM

or at least teach him what happens when you try to fight them.

Fighton03 on September 16, 2010 at 1:57 PM

To paraphrase a business saying — One Oh Shit can wipe out a lifetime of AttaBoys. — Dr. Dog, 1:49

Indeed … something I learned the hard way a few times in the private sector. ;-)

Ed Morrissey on September 16, 2010 at 1:58 PM

By the way, as short a time ago as July, 2010…. two months ago…
O’Donnell was shown by Rasmussen as being two percentage points better than Coons… 41% – 39%
Just shows you that when your own party craps all over you, it is hard to stay up in the polls. Now it will be the question as to whether she can overcome all the Republican attacks. Imagine… what a party… they destroy their own people. Jacka**es.

PhilipJames on September 16, 2010 at 1:59 PM

HondaV65 on September 16, 2010 at 1:47 PM

Oh, he’ll host Rush’s show again. Around, oh, late December. Don’t go on too long with this, HondaV65. Karl’s been appropriately spanked (by Sarah, no less!), and he’ll remember it for a long time.

BradSchwartze on September 16, 2010 at 1:59 PM

Too bad most of these commenters didn’t read your sensible & true words, Ed.
Good job, Karl!

itsnotaboutme on September 16, 2010 at 1:59 PM

I don’t hate Rove … or Krauthammer for that matter, their obnoxious comments notwithstanding. They both intellectually are in the right place: conservatives to the bone. But they both have been tainted by Washington culture. It’s insidious. It touches all who go there. That’s why we need to elect a bunch of rubes then, when they start thinking they’re the establishment, dump them. Two senate terms is about all anyone in that city can handle.

MaxMBJ on September 16, 2010 at 2:00 PM

Sorry Ed, But Rove didn’t have just one bad night…he came on Fox the next day and doubled down. The fact that he is taking a beating for his STUPIDITY is his problem. He is going to have to work to earn our trust or he’ll end up with Newt “Scuzzy” Gingrich.

aigle on September 16, 2010 at 2:01 PM

standing on the fence gets you shot at from both sides.

Fighton03 on September 16, 2010 at 1:51 PM

Who is standing on the fence?

I am stating a fact. I guess you aren’t looking ahead concerning it.

upinak on September 16, 2010 at 2:01 PM

I e-mailed Rove through rove.com and gave him what for. He sent (probably a form e-mail) a detailed e-mail with 3 complete articles about O’Donnell. His e-mail indicated he would include personal observations after the articles, but those observations were not included.

Anyway – I appreciate that Rove has to avoid rose-colored glasses as an analyst. As a Republican, he should have avoided belittling the candidate that the good R’s of Delaware picked IN SPITE of all of the smearing articles. As Ed says, Rove mentions nothing about Coons’ many shortcomings.

kscheuller on September 16, 2010 at 2:01 PM

Dr. Dog on September 16, 2010 at 1:49 PM

Then why do Americans of all ideologies love a good redemption story? Like the one Christine is in the process of providing us?

BradSchwartze on September 16, 2010 at 2:02 PM

Does Karl really believe that OD and all her “baggage” is a worse candidate than the MARXIST the dems have nominated for the job?!?!?

How about ANALYZING THE OTHER SIDE KARL?!?!?!?!

Talon on September 16, 2010 at 2:02 PM

I have never understood why this man got such props for being the “architect”. He nearly lost two presidential elections against very weak candidates that should have been landslides. He just got lucky. Then had a big hand in the spanking the GOP got in 2006.

Sorry Architect, I’ll find someone else to build my house from now on.

conservnut on September 16, 2010 at 2:02 PM

Karl Rove isn’t conservative, that’s just the side who is issuing his paycheck.

sharrukin on September 16, 2010 at 2:02 PM

What I fear is happening is that a large number of conservatives are actually afraid that the so called Christian Right just might have some influence within the party. Even some on this sight claim to be conservative in all things but social conservatism. That is fine by me and I have no animus towards the social moderates or whatever they call themselves, but if the social conservatives become a threat to those moderates to the point where we are unelectable then we get the same thing we have been trying to fight against.

fourdeucer on September 16, 2010 at 2:03 PM

Rove is worried that when the Democrats make O’Donnell the poster girl for the whole American Tea Party, will it do anything to drag other “Tea Party candidates” down with her. That’s a real concern. He’s not been proven wrong about it yet.

RBMN on September 16, 2010 at 2:04 PM

Republican leaders have to decide if they want the tiny fraction of furious voters who have showed up at the primary polls to steer them into the swamp for years ahead. They have a chance to repudiate the worst of the Tea Party crowd and show that they can govern without appealing to the basest political instincts. So far, they have preferred to greedily capitalize on the nuclear energy in the land without considering its destructive effects.

Truly, this could have been said about the original tea partiers, and probably was. Luckily Americans chose to go with the ‘tiny’ faction.

JonPrichard on September 16, 2010 at 2:04 PM

a capella on September 16, 2010 at 1:55 PM

May I ask for your opinion about Dick Morris? I am just curious because sometimes I HAVE wondered why Conservatives have accepted him so easily (not that I have not liked what he says sometimes) with him being Clinton’s right hand man at one time. I think I will find your anaolgy interesting. Ta!

Gob on September 16, 2010 at 2:04 PM

It was all part of the plan, you magnificence turd blossom.

Say something bad and next thing is she gets a Million dollar money bomb. With the message “yeah, well show you, you evil establishment GOP back stabbers”

Would that money come as fast if he was nothing but a cheerleader. Would she have got any money bomb at all.
This could go for CK as well.

This is Biden seat, the fact that any R even has a chance is beyond imaginable.

tjexcite on September 16, 2010 at 2:04 PM

He was up to his eyeballs in dubya’s amnesty effort. Rove wanted those Hispanic voters as bad as the donks do. He’s just another pitiful Dick Morris. They had their day in the sun, were lucky on some stuff, and, now, they can’t bear losing the gru label. Political consultants are for sale and they dare not lose their marketability.

a capella on September 16, 2010 at 1:55 PM

When has Rove really ever had to market himself?

But then he opens his mouth quite a bit, ticking off people, who in turn do the opposite of what he says, in effect do exactly as was hoped.

It happens quite often actually.

upinak on September 16, 2010 at 2:05 PM

How dare he try to get back in our good graces. How dare he have a different opinion on who is and who is not a suitable candidate. How dare he disagree. Who in the hell does he think he is anyway? How dare he even think! How dare he exist!! Liar Liar! He’s a joke! He’s fired!! Poopy head!!

(How’d I do guys? Good? Am I good? Huh? This is fun. Who we going to call names next? It’s fun being a thought policeman!)

Rod on September 16, 2010 at 2:05 PM

Rove will remain effective for Republicans – most of them conservatives.

But not “establishment”? c’mon. He just spent 8 years on the White House.

Both the “establishment” and the “tea party” are necessary to win. I just don’t like the ill advised and unnecessary comments on the night of a result that disappointed him. He knows better. Just say “This is going to be tough general election to win, Sean”. No need to rattle off attack talking points against the R nominee.

forest on September 16, 2010 at 2:06 PM

Lay off Rove. He’s entitled to his opinion…of which, prior to his sacrilegious distaste for O’Donnell’s candidacy, most of you shared.
Bee on September 16, 2010 at 1:51 PM

Not if his opinion has been influenced by a paycheck from an opposing candidate and he uses his Fox position to further that agenda, without revealing a possible conflict of interest. Perhaps that isn’t the case, but he should have been open about his working with Castle when he made his first comments.

a capella on September 16, 2010 at 2:06 PM

It is days since Rove’s buddie, Castle lost.

Rove is still ranting how HE needs an explanations from O’Donnell!

Rove is trashing his own reputation. No one but Rove!

Freddy on September 16, 2010 at 2:07 PM

What everyone seems to be ignoring is that Rove was right about O’Donnell; a fact we’ll all witness come November.

His role has been to get Republicans elected. A Christine O’Donnell victory in the primary runs counter to that, as she can’t win. Of course he was frustrated about our very own female version of Alvin Greene getting nominated. Contrary to lefty opinion, he is only human.

Hollowpoint on September 16, 2010 at 2:07 PM

Rove deserves the tough love he’s getting. I’ve enjoyed his election night analysis over the years but he’s outta touch with the reality of what’s happening on the ground.

He needs to sweat a few mortgage payments, struggle with kid’s tuitions & figure out how to stretch the groceries beyond next week’s paycheck…. and worry about next week’s paycheck.

Until he “gets it”, everything from him is just more DC bullshit.

bloviator on September 16, 2010 at 2:08 PM

Who is standing on the fence?

I am stating a fact. I guess you aren’t looking ahead concerning it.

upinak on September 16, 2010 at 2:01 PM

just a statement about choosing the middle ground. I like the previous comment about ‘one ah sh!t’, because that’s what just happened to Rove. In a pretty big way.

Rove has been good for the GOP, but not necessarily for what are called ‘conservatives’ these days. Choosing a middle ground blurs distinctions, and right now the distinction between GOP and ‘conservative’ is one that needs examining.

Fighton03 on September 16, 2010 at 2:08 PM

I think this Rove thing is ginned up to 1) Help O’Donnell raise money (also, let them cite Rove) 2) Make it clear there is some plausible deniability if O’Donnell collapses.

ninjapirate on September 16, 2010 at 2:08 PM

I’ll never forgive Rove just like i’ll never forgive Newt!

deidre on September 16, 2010 at 2:08 PM

Heh.. I suspect Karl will be singing the Backin’ Up Song next.

He’s intelligent, but Karl sure had a dumb moment Tuesday night. I’ll give him another chance though, and working pro bono for O’Donnell would likely go a long way for a lot of us.

itzWicks on September 16, 2010 at 2:08 PM

RBMN on September 16, 2010 at 2:04 PM

The tea party movement is young, green, and very wary of anyone who has the experience necessary to guide them. They will make mistakes, and O’Donnell may, or may not, be one of them, but I’m not prepared to abandon them for a few bad candidates. I like their inexperience, and I think that is the most important thing they bring to the table. If you have no respect for the establishment then there are no sacred cows that cannot be attacked. They will have the ability to look at every aspect of Washington with clear vision, but only for a time, so the most has to be made of it.

DFCtomm on September 16, 2010 at 2:09 PM

Rove was clearly upset that his pet Castle lost the primary. Didn’t have Jack chit to do with being a political analyst. If it did he would of said she had a rough hill to climb going into the general election. Not list all the Democrap talking points about the woman over and over and over……

The White House staff is over a million bucks in arrears on taxes and Rove wants to talk about this woman’s filing mistakes in 2005? WTF?

joedoe on September 16, 2010 at 2:09 PM

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