NYT editor: We won’t run photos of the Koran burning because they add nothing to the story
posted at 4:22 pm on September 10, 2010 by Allahpundit
Nice try, but alas, I must call B.S.
Bill Keller, the executive editor of The New York Times, said in an e-mail message that the newspaper had “no policy against publishing things that might offend someone — lots of people are offended by lots of things — but we try to refrain from giving widespread offense unless there is some offsetting journalistic purpose.”
“A picture of a burning book contributes nothing substantial to a story about book-burning, so the offense seems entirely gratuitous,” Mr. Keller continued. “The freedom to publish includes the freedom not to publish.”
Well, for starters, the “offsetting journalistic purpose” here would be visually illustrating the key moment of the event you’re reporting on, no? It’s one thing to not print a photo if it contains something offensive that’s unrelated to the story, like an idiot giving the finger while standing behind a politician who’s speaking to reporters, but when your whole purpose for being there is to cover something offensive happening, I dare say a photo of it happening qualifies as “newsy.”
But beyond that, the Times’s non-coverage of the Mohammed cartoons a few years ago proves how bogus Keller’s argument is. Not only did they refuse to print them, thus making it impossible for readers to see what the global fuss was about without consulting an outside source, but — infamously — they chose to illustrate a story inspired by the cartoon uproar about offensive imagery with a photo of … the Virgin Mary painted in elephant dung. The painting was mentioned in the piece, but only tangentially; the focus was, of course, the cartoons and the insane reaction to them. Faced with the choice between no illustration, a highly newsworthy illustration that offended Muslims, and a glancingly related illustration that offended Christians, they went with the last one notwithstanding the fact that, in context, it had little “journalistic purpose.” Why? Because, of course, Keller doesn’t really care about gratuitous offense; he cares about people getting bombed when Muslim fundies get mad. I can sympathize to some extent with the media trying to save lives by not giving lunatics a pretext to be lunatics, but if you’re going to do that, at least have the dignity to acknowledge that that’s what you’re doing. Appease if you must, but don’t be dishonest about it.
Follow the link up top and read the entire Times piece, as it provides a timeline of how the media helped create the Frankenstein monster they’re now desperately trying to kill. It’s not a complete narrative — for that, read this Salon piece too about how hard Arab media has worked over the past few months to demagogue Jones’s stunt — but it’s useful in tracking how early some U.S. media outlets picked this up as a way of pushing their Islamophobia narrative. As far as I can tell, Jones’s first appearance on a major network came all the way back on July 29 when he turned up on — ta da — Rick Sanchez’s show, which doubtless caught the attention of some media players in the Middle East. (Think Progress flagged the clip the next day under the heading “Radical Right-Wing Agenda.”) It was Petraeus’s comment over the weekend about how much traction the story’s already gotten in Afghanistan that then sent the media into overdrive this week, turning the story into the global clusterfark it’s now become. And now that it is one, and everyone from Obama to the Vatican is begging Jones to stand down, the media’s trying to atone for hyping this crank by either blacking out coverage of what he’s up to or, as you’re about to see, dropping any pretense of objectivity and condemning the guy themselves. Enjoy as Mika Brzezinski disgraces herself by accusing Jones of potentially having “blood on his hands” — wrong, wrong, wrong — before ex-Newsweek editor Jon Meacham delivers a little New Testament pep talk and then they cut away, without Jones ever uttering a word. They’ve gone from moronic hyperventilation to obnoxious self-congratulation in the span of about 24 hours. Amazing.
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..well, I sorta agree with them. I mean this pastor is crazier that a sh!thouse rat and pics burning these books serve no purpose.
The War Planner on September 10, 2010 at 4:28 PM
The NYT usually adds “nothing to the story” except a lot of distortions and spin
clnurnberg on September 10, 2010 at 4:28 PM
But Abu Ghraib photos are necessary.
BirdEye on September 10, 2010 at 4:29 PM
plus the WH said so………….
I’d bet anything if it was Bible’s they’d print it.
RealMc on September 10, 2010 at 4:29 PM
BigWyo on September 10, 2010 at 4:29 PM
Fear not the internet will have more picks than we could want in 40 seconds. The times could not even catch up with how this ends if they were camped out with the nutty preacher.
Col.John Wm. Reed on September 10, 2010 at 4:30 PM
Would anyone see them if they did?
abobo on September 10, 2010 at 4:30 PM
They only publish offensive stuff when there is no chance that the offended will try and kill them.
tommer74 on September 10, 2010 at 4:30 PM
If they don’t want to run pics, just don’t cover the story. Why cover it and pretend like photos aren’t newsworthy? Of course they are. Keller just doesn’t want anyone getting hurt. That’s a noble motive, but be honest about it. Don’t make up crap about “journalistic purpose.”
Allahpundit on September 10, 2010 at 4:30 PM
If muslims attack only the muslim attackers will have “blood on their hands” Mika you silly gubbins
clnurnberg on September 10, 2010 at 4:31 PM
cmsinaz on September 10, 2010 at 4:31 PM
Completely forgot about that.
Esthier on September 10, 2010 at 4:31 PM
Islam means “submission”.
The NYT submitted long ago.
Rebar on September 10, 2010 at 4:32 PM
All this presupposes that the terrorists reaction is perfectly reasonable.”Well of course they blew a convoy up, you pissed them off!”
They never want to actually blame the person that pulled the trigger. Blood on his hands indeed. Hell, every time Obama says something supportive of Israel, he gets blood on his hands.
redshirt on September 10, 2010 at 4:33 PM
Fixed for the dwindling number still dumb enough to read this rag.
MNHawk on September 10, 2010 at 4:33 PM
What would it add to the story? A picture of a burning book is a picture of a burning book. Reading the story will give the information, pictures would just be turning it into porn.
And this guy has already gotten more publicity than he deserves. I can just imagine the fights the photographers are going to have trying to get the perfect shot. I picture a shot from down low of a sorcerer standing over a big black kettle with his arms raised.
cozmo on September 10, 2010 at 4:33 PM
This nutty Pastor has made his point. It is no longer necessary to burn anything. If he does it will be anti-climatic. Besides a bunch of other nuts have said they are gonna burn them some Korans.It’s not like I haven’t seen burning Korans on youtube.
sandee on September 10, 2010 at 4:33 PM
….instead, we’ll run them about 4 months from now after everyone’s forgotten the details…and maybe throw in a picture of newly elected Florida Senator Rubio (R).
BigWyo on September 10, 2010 at 4:33 PM
They shouldn’t have made such a big flipping deal out of the story in the first place. No-one should. But now that they have…
S. Weasel on September 10, 2010 at 4:34 PM
Agreed. The pics are no less newsworthy than the story itself.
Esthier on September 10, 2010 at 4:34 PM
Oh, I think the climate around this story won’t be effected.
Christien on September 10, 2010 at 4:36 PM
I’m still in therapy after seeing “Mr. Naked with ladies panties on head”. Poor guy. When I first saw it, I thought: “college prank”. But then I read the caption…the horror.
We’re making progress. Still can’t discuss the butt pyramid without shaking uncontrollably. With laughter.
BobMbx on September 10, 2010 at 4:38 PM
Maybe they are afraid that Petraeus will accuse them of further endangering the lives of American troops and they don’t want to be lumped in by him with that Pastor of that very small Christian Church and with Israel (the Jews!).
I do seem to recall Petraues giving it a lot of traction. In fact, he seemed to be the traction’s prime mover.
Luka on September 10, 2010 at 4:38 PM
Allah: RE: your last sentence …
You seemed surprised the media are patting themselves on the back?
Ian on September 10, 2010 at 4:38 PM
This is true. I posted something similar a couple of days ago..Just the idea that some one’s gonna burn the damn book has all the usual suspects frothing at the mouth. Even if they don’t…there’s no turning back now.
BigWyo on September 10, 2010 at 4:38 PM
I’ll see you and raise you. Since when did the Times have any qualms about printing something controversial that might endanger our troops?
Christien on September 10, 2010 at 4:39 PM
Who owns that paper, Puss Sulzberger?
Elizabetty on September 10, 2010 at 4:39 PM
Hey, they’re taking a brave stance…..and they’re mighty proud of themselves…
BigWyo on September 10, 2010 at 4:41 PM
Big ol’ editors, publishers and owners really are punks, just like in the Spiderman comics.
.
Who knew?
Arbalest on September 10, 2010 at 4:42 PM
We are such paragons of morality that we will refuse to interview this guy even though if it weren’t for us, there aren’t 100 people who would even know who he is.
That’s how moral we are.
You other people who are discussing the issues, printing pictures so everyone can see what is going on, or who even offer to prove that radical Muslims exist, have blood on your hands and you are all Eeeeeevvvvvvviiiiiiillllll.
Lily on September 10, 2010 at 4:42 PM
Media dhimmi’s.
darwin on September 10, 2010 at 4:43 PM
Succinct and spot on.
AP’s posts on this have been brilliant. He’s making an unbelievably stupid story worth reading about.
Yes, there really is a pony in there somewhere. And AP’s found it.
SteveMG on September 10, 2010 at 4:43 PM
But Abu Ghraib photos are necessary.
BirdEye on September 10, 2010 at 4:29 PM
thread winnah
I was sick of seeing that damn “fake wires” picture….and yet they practically made it the official picture of 2004
thebrokenrattle on September 10, 2010 at 4:43 PM
Who actually gets their news from the NY Times anyway?
darwin on September 10, 2010 at 4:44 PM
If Jack Lord were still alive, he’d sue Keller for stealing his hairstyle.
Ward Cleaver on September 10, 2010 at 4:45 PM
Don’t ____ or muslims will get violent!
lorien1973 on September 10, 2010 at 4:46 PM
Take a good look, because this is what dhimmitude looks like.
AbeFroman on September 10, 2010 at 4:46 PM
Dead fish and parrots?
lorien1973 on September 10, 2010 at 4:46 PM
sorta on topic:
Allah, TELL ME you’ve seen the Taiwanese animation of WallStreetJournal vs. NewYOrkTimes linked on Drudge….
SO funny — NYT as toilet paper, “copy this, post that” lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skaYUQ4YPk4
picklesgap on September 10, 2010 at 4:46 PM
Courage.
TheBigOldDog on September 10, 2010 at 4:46 PM
Wonder if they would print photo’s of the good pastor burning copies of the NYT.
fourdeucer on September 10, 2010 at 4:48 PM
If I were the pastor, (and i think he’s a fool btw), on Saturday I would get a giant video screen and I would show video of muslims burning Bibles, Muslims burning the American flag, and read from the Koran about ‘kill the unbelieverss’. Then i’d light one -just one- on fire and say “islam is the religion of PEACE. prove it!” and walk away.
picklesgap on September 10, 2010 at 4:48 PM
I don’t recall the liberal media withholding images of “Piss Christ.”
logis on September 10, 2010 at 4:48 PM
Blank filled in.
logis on September 10, 2010 at 4:50 PM
On the other hand, put a crucifix in some urine, burn an American flag or a Bible, and they’ll set aside space on the front-page above the fold for you.
TheBigOldDog on September 10, 2010 at 4:50 PM
Translation: We reserve the right to start a firestorm then absolve ourselves of any responsibility.
darwin on September 10, 2010 at 4:50 PM
Dan rather says: Cu-RAH-hey.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLt8_G2Gsuk
picklesgap on September 10, 2010 at 4:51 PM
I agree. Own up to your dhimmitude, NYT.
This country is so screwed. A collective national freakout over the possibility of a book being burned. Pathetic and cowardly.
Missy on September 10, 2010 at 4:52 PM
So if I read Mr. Keller right, half of America can burn a koran and no one will see any pictures of it.
darwin on September 10, 2010 at 4:52 PM
A story about cartoons comes to mind…no pics of course.
d1carter on September 10, 2010 at 4:52 PM
There won’t be pics of the last lights being turned out for the last time at the NYT either.
SurferDoc on September 10, 2010 at 4:53 PM
“…they add nothing to the story.”
The Zoo Keeper on September 10, 2010 at 4:53 PM
N.Y.T.: Photograph burning Korans?
We don’t want the car bomb in front of our building! You effing kidding me!
David2.0 on September 10, 2010 at 4:54 PM
In this context, why then would Mr. Keller and the Times print a photo of the two towers in flames just before they fell? If Mr. Keller wants to engage in selective journalism because the “offense is gratuitous”, then the Times is guilty of thousands of offenses.
Rovin on September 10, 2010 at 4:54 PM
The Times can back this up by all the articles they didn’t run with pictures of people burning American Flags. Or photos of Abu Ghraib, or reports on how cell phones were being monitored, or…
DrAllecon on September 10, 2010 at 4:55 PM
For now. Keep this up and you won’t have the freedom to publish anything at all.
Missy on September 10, 2010 at 4:57 PM
orwellian to the 10th power.
moonbatkiller on September 10, 2010 at 4:57 PM
NYT: “Add to the story? We’ve already told the story”.
“White Christian bigot, homophobe, islamophobe, racist, conservative wackjob insults religion of peace and tolerance.”
“Nothing to add here, folks.”
David2.0 on September 10, 2010 at 4:57 PM
Over and over the meme from the White House down to the media is feel sorry for the “victims”, those poor Muslims who really are justified in threatening more Americans and American interests because some lone, whacko preacher wants to burn the Koran. (Imagine if the guy wanted to burn a dozen?)
Never “Yeah, that Koran burning idea is dumb, BUT SO IS the US flag burning and Bible burning in Muslim countries…maybe we could see more of that tolerance in those countries that I am preaching here in the USA…”
albill on September 10, 2010 at 5:01 PM
Muslims going into high gear to strangle U.S. Constitution
Meanwhile “we” are in Iraq and Afghanistan helping them to build successful Sharia states. With which – The U.S. Constitution or strangling the U.S. Constitution – do you think our “good friends”, Maliki and Karzai will align themselves with? I say they will be on the same side as our “good friends” the Saudis.
Luka on September 10, 2010 at 5:01 PM
Coward.
Vashta.Nerada on September 10, 2010 at 5:01 PM
Muslim threats work like a charm. Muslim violence works. Expect more of both.
TheBigOldDog on September 10, 2010 at 5:04 PM
Maybe if we have a mein koran burning once a week every week somewhere in the world, the muslims will begin to understand that we can’t be intimidated into observing their religion? Maybe they will get tired of rioting and go back to normal behavior, which for them is rioting. Maybe they will come to see that if they want respect for their religion, they need to respect other religions?
slickwillie2001 on September 10, 2010 at 5:04 PM
Yeah, well, the NYT and WashPost are usually sources of what I can anti-news. You know less after reading one of their pieces.
joeindc44 on September 10, 2010 at 5:05 PM
uncalheels on September 10, 2010 at 5:07 PM
Watch the MSNBC video?
Mika just dripping with disgust. What a performance!
Anyone really think the good pastor agreed to go on air with MSNBC for a dressing down? Hardly.
They obviously promised the pastor an interview and then this loser Meacham pontificates for a minute and then…….poof……….sorry pastor……….we lied!
Pathetic and dishonest.
David2.0 on September 10, 2010 at 5:08 PM
I couldn’t agree more!
Allah, I really, really, REALLY(!!) love your writings, and only wish more people throughout the world could benefit from your witty snark and bluntness, as I do, daily.
Thanks for all these years of snark, you’re the best!
Califemme on September 10, 2010 at 5:12 PM
What makes this publicity hound foolishly burning Korans wrong and the building of a victory mosque at Ground Zero right? A Liberal perspective.
kingsjester on September 10, 2010 at 5:12 PM
From the very top of that news article -
“(CNSNews.com) – Following the uproar over the threatened burning of the Quran by a small Florida church, a leading international Islamic body said Thursday that the United Nations should outlaw “all forms of offense against religions.””
If “all forms of offense against religions.” were outlawed, then the Koran would be outlawed as it is permeated with all manner of offenses, and worse, against Jews and Christians and others.
This has all become a theater of the absurd. Islam is a crime against humanity and must be labeled as the scourge that it is. If our grandfathers were as cowardly at calling things what they are as most of our sorry excuse for “leaders” are today, we would all be living under Nazism and Shintoism now, or be dead. We now have mice and rats in charge of our beloved country. And that includes Petraues as well as Obama.
Jeckle on September 10, 2010 at 5:14 PM
What a crock of crap the cowards at the NY Times are. They publish national security secrets on a nearly daily basis and they got the balls to say this will endanger us and our troops? Keller should be tried and sentenced to death for treason with all the damage and death he has caused to our security and our intel people. This scumbag sells us down the river every chance he gets. And these scum on MSNBC are no different. They have champagne parties every time the death toll rose under Bush’s watch and broadcast damaging info every day they could to undermine our efforts in Iraq and Afghanistan. Pacifism will be the death of us. Get a pair America before it’s too late and quit kowtowing to liberals and their heros in the islamic world.
roninacreage on September 10, 2010 at 5:15 PM
This is as vile as anything I’ve seen in “journalism” in a while. It’s so nice to have these “Christian” journalists proselytizing on the air. I hope Allahpundit finally sees the Koran-burning error of his ways and converts. If he couldn’t feel Jesus’ words before, maybe having douchebags using religion as a journalistic cudgel will turn his heart. Also, Meacham’s Christian?
JavelinaBomb on September 10, 2010 at 5:16 PM
Burn Modolf’s Mein Korampf!
Luka on September 10, 2010 at 5:17 PM
Why do you need to visually show it when you’re describing the scene in print?
Did you have a problem with how the WSJ covered the news until recently?
Tom_Shipley on September 10, 2010 at 5:21 PM
I hope MSNBC has Meacham back on when the abortion issue comes back in vogue. People who support abortion have blood on their hands, and I hope Mika and Jon tell them so. Religion can be used in that case too, right?
JavelinaBomb on September 10, 2010 at 5:22 PM
So, the New York Times is covering the Story? Isn’t that a story in itself?
Guest1.1 on September 10, 2010 at 5:25 PM
I bet your atomic number is pretty high.
darwin on September 10, 2010 at 5:27 PM
if bush was potus, then they’d publish.
if palin was potus then they’d have a 24 page full-color pull out section.
reliapundit on September 10, 2010 at 5:27 PM
If someone – a famous figure – decided to burn the American flag in protest of a public policy, or burn the bible, I’m sure we’d all expect to see a picture of them with the smoldering object alongside the story.
If you think the story is worthy – and at this point with the President and top officials making it so – you simply have to show the actual event.
This isn’t even a close call. Keller’s explanation simply isn’t believable.
SteveMG on September 10, 2010 at 5:28 PM
Isn’t it a tad odd that this otherwise nobody, suddenly is commanding the worlds ears, and eyes?
How did this man achieve the forefront? Who first picked up on the fact that he, and his members were going to burn korans?
capejasmine on September 10, 2010 at 5:28 PM
I’m waiting for the day (hopefully soon) when the NYT doesn’t run any stories anymore, permanently.
Goes for the Strib ,too.
Bruno Strozek on September 10, 2010 at 5:29 PM
The NYT’s brand new slogan: “A word is worth a thousand pictures.”
logis on September 10, 2010 at 5:29 PM
You know, I remember reading a while back that the NY Times had moved all the desks so everyone faced Mecca. Could be just a coincidence.
darwin on September 10, 2010 at 5:30 PM
Good one. What a PR move that would be.
Mirimichi on September 10, 2010 at 5:30 PM
I watched Dr. Terry Jones on Youtube. His discourse is very articulate, he is calm and coherent. Watch a libtard speaking, foaming at the mouth, or Alex Jones types, and you’ll see the difference. He might be one of the bravest men living in US, and most probably he’s a dead men walking. The cult of death does not know mercy, and US law enforcing agencies are a joke lately.
I saw a lot of residents on this board (commie trolls excluded) not only in full disagreement with his future actions, but also questioning his sanity. The fact is Dr. Terry Jones is a very courageous man and those commenters are not – they have a very low opinion about islam but in the real life no guts to take any action against its advance.
This pedo/necrophiliac book called koran is not holy, just the demented ramblings of an insane, immoral man. It’s perfectly fine to burn it, to use it in the crapper and to feed it to pigs – and it should be done as often and as public as possible, until the muslims will understand that the free world don’t give a crap about their threats or about their death cult disguised as religion.
If Petraeus, which is the main culprit of the insane publicity this symbolic gesture of defiance got in the media, is afraid of his soldiers lives, he should modify the ROE: any bastards on the street killing and burning and attacking US troops to be shot on sight You’ll be surprised how quiet muslims are when you show them the stick.
The only ones putting soldiers lives in danger are politicians and the top brass. Good luck building a nation in that sh!thole Afghanistan, where children are forced to memorize a book written by a child molester.
Rookie on September 10, 2010 at 5:31 PM
Pretty much my favorite thing ever is when people make up “rules” on the spot to justify their outrage.
You say the NYTimes decided not to print photo of the Koran book burning? Don’t they know that if an event is big enough for them to cover, they MUST show an image of it?
I think might compile these in a book: The Idiots Guide Moral Superiority.
Tom_Shipley on September 10, 2010 at 5:34 PM
When I look at this country, what I see
Is the face of something else that once belonged to me
I can still remember America going ever higher and beyond
And even though that melody lingers on, I fear it may be almost gone
When I look at this country, some of America is still standing there
I can almost breathe it in like summer in the air
Why does this strange country still smile America’s smile?
That heaven I’d forgotten eases through in it, for a while
If it could be to me once more
With all I felt before
If I could disappear into the past
And find that country that we knew
I’d never take my eyes away from it
When I look at this country, America is touching me
I would reach for it, but who can hold a fading memory?
And America isn’t everything
That moonlight will melt away, someday
Oh, this country was once America
That I followed like a star
Then suddenly it changed,
And now I don’t know where we are
Or could it be that I never really knew it from the start?
Did I create a dream?
Was it a fantasy?
Even a memory is paradise for all the fools like me
Now, remembering it is all that I can do
Because I miss America so, when I look at this former land of bravery and liberty
PercyB on September 10, 2010 at 5:39 PM
That didn’t seem to matter when they ran the picture of a crucifix soaking in urine. I actually agree with the decision not to needlessly inflame the Muslims, but we need to be honest about the root of the problem – the Muslim’s hair trigger, irrational response to perceived offense.
paul1149 on September 10, 2010 at 5:40 PM
You should dedicate it to yourself, as I’ve seen you on more than one occasion, assert yourself as a moral compass over everyone else and their opinions. ;)
capejasmine on September 10, 2010 at 5:43 PM
What is the “event” they’re reporting on? A burning of an object.
You actually think that pictures of that actual event – the focus of the story – isn’t relevant?
I’m not saying that they MUST show that. The question on the table is whether Keller’s explanation of why they decided not to run a photo is plausible.
SteveMG on September 10, 2010 at 5:43 PM
NYT is chickenshite. And sticking with the barnyard vernacular, they apparently don’t know that the fox is already in the henhouse. Won’t they be surprised when they get their necks wrung by rabid Bible-burning fanatics!
RandyChandler on September 10, 2010 at 5:43 PM
AMEN BROTHER. If Obama and Patreus gave a real damn about our troops being in harms way, they’d call for the immediate withdrawal of ALL troops. I say bring them all home and turn the place into a parking lot. Starting with Irans nuke sites before it’s too late.
roninacreage on September 10, 2010 at 5:45 PM
I agree with Ann Coulter. Maybe the media would think different if 9/11 attacks were on the NY Times building instead. Cutting off their colleagues head, Daniel Pearl, on live video just wasn’t horrific enough to get the point across to their sorry pascifist asses.
roninacreage on September 10, 2010 at 5:49 PM
You should dedicate it to yourself, as I’ve seen you on more than one occasion, assert yourself as a moral compass over everyone else and their opinions. ;)
Well, that’s because i’m right!
Tom_Shipley on September 10, 2010 at 6:00 PM
Flaming Korans, the Muslims are proving to the world what kind of braying hyena’s they really are.
tarpon on September 10, 2010 at 6:02 PM
Those bastard commies from MSM will get the point in the exact millisecond when their skin will melt into their Che T-shirts from a nuclear blast. Hell I’m optimistic, probably they might blame capitalism in that very moment.
Communists think they’re very smart, supporting islam against capitalism. The problem is they’ll end up at the wrong end of the rifle, as it happened in Iran.
Rookie on September 10, 2010 at 6:04 PM
??? Right about what? Everything you support sucks.
darwin on September 10, 2010 at 6:07 PM
So, if a NY Times photographer snaps a brilliant photo of the Korans burning with the backdrop and lighting perfect, you’d not run the photo?
SteveMG on September 10, 2010 at 6:08 PM
I understand airplanes flew into a couple buildings in Manhattan nine years ago. Fortunately, no gratuitous pictures of the event were published. What could they possibly add that a thousand words failed to convey?
Barnestormer on September 10, 2010 at 6:08 PM
The old media will rush to print anything that ridicules or scandalizes Christians. Those stories are generally ‘too good to check’. On the other hand god help anyone at NYT that does anything remotely similar to a muslim. They will be out of a job before the first bundles hit the street.
That’s the conflict here, how can al New York Times report the story and ridicule the Christians, yet not offend the muslims.
slickwillie2001 on September 10, 2010 at 6:12 PM
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