Delaware GOP files FEC complaint against O’Donnell over tea-party money

posted at 5:53 pm on September 10, 2010 by Allahpundit

Really dumb, and I say that as someone who’s firmly in the “vote for the electable RINO” camp.

The Republican Party of Delaware has filed a formal complaint with the Federal Election Commission, accusing one of its own Senate candidates of illegally collaborating with the Tea Party Express…

The complaint alleges that the O’Donnell campaign is “knowingly accepting illegal campaign contributions from the Tea Party Express” political action committee. It cites two “alarming” instances:

— O’Donnell has knowingly accepted excessive contributions from the Tea Party Express that were directly solicited on behalf of the O’Donnell campaign, according to the filing.

— O’Donnell has accepted illegal excessive contributions from the Tea Party Express by engaging in a statewide coordinated communications effort in support of her campaign. This means, according to the complaint, that every advertisement that is being run by the Tea Party Express in support of O’Donnell is a violation of federal law.

The thinking here, I take it, is to bolster Team Castle’s narrative that O’Donnell is a shady character, to the point where she’s allegedly willing to violate federal law to win. First problem with that: By escalating to this point, they’re risking total alienation of O’Donnell voters, some of whom Castle will need to win in November if he survives the primary. In fairness, the race is already bitter enough that many O’Donnell supporters are bound to stay home anyway if he’s the nominee, but the harder this hardball gets, the more of them he’ll lose. And in a blue state with a credible Democratic nominee, even a RINO can’t afford to bleed too many deep red voters. The second problem: Castle vs. O’Donnell isn’t just a “RINO vs. true conservative” contest. It’s also an “establishment vs. grassroots” contest, such that heavy-handed legal action by the state party — invoking the much-loathed strictures of campaign-finance law, no less — is, perhaps, not the best optics for Castle in this year of all years. How on earth will he gain more than he’ll lose from this complaint?

On a related note, Jeffrey Lord argues in AmSpec today that O’Donnell is being attacked by big-name pundits at NRO, among others, because she presents a challenge to the “Ruling Class” of conservatism. Jim Geraghty, whom Lord includes as an example, responds by calling it the “stupidest article in the history of the American Spectator.” Exit question: Are all O’Donnell skeptics/grudging Castle supporters also part of the “Ruling Class,” or is it only the ones who write for famous magazines? I assume that beta males, by definition, don’t qualify.


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THIS. Awaiting Jenfidel in 5..4…3..2..1

davek70 on September 10, 2010 at 6:03 PM

Shouldn’t happen – jenfidel is v-e-r-y upset that Palin was stupid and endorsed O’Donnell. He should be comfortable now with the attacks on Palin since that was what he was doing toward O’Donnell.

What the TP people should take away from this lawsuit is the GOP is more than pleased with TP energy, votes, etc wants no part of any challenge to their control. And come election time they’re going to expect/demand the TP people rally around whatever candidate is running and we’re going to be told we’re handing the election to the Dems. Once again the GOP shows that they still have the ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

katiejane on September 10, 2010 at 6:39 PM

You GOP fans don’t remember the lesson of 1994.

Yes, the GOP won in a landslide.

First week in office, they tried to cut funding for public television.

Leftard media hammered them about trying to murder Big Bird.

GOP caved.

Me? After a lifetime, and I mean a gosh darn LIFETIME of helping the GOP financially and in every other way, I quit the GOP.

I haven’t regretted it, you won’t either.

jeff_from_mpls on September 10, 2010 at 6:39 PM

Christine will consume the Dems with fireballs from her eyes, and bolts of lightning from her arse.

faraway on September 10, 2010 at 6:40 PM

Castle is not Nancy Pelosi.

Terrye on September 10, 2010 at 6:33 PM

Way to go out on a limb there.

fossten on September 10, 2010 at 6:40 PM

Here is a rundown of Castle’s voting record back to July 2009. Concentrate on the first and third column and see how many times they match up.

VOTE CASTLE FOR THE GOOD OF THE PARTY! (just not sure which one)

http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/members/c000243/votes/against-party/

Bishop on September 10, 2010 at 6:40 PM

Apologetic California on September 10, 2010 at 6:33 PM

Lord is not writing about Hot Air, really he isn’t. He’s no doubt refering to a certain establishment senator from Utah, amongst others. He’s writing about the ruling elites propensity for protecting their own. But, you already knew that. Why do you feel the need to attack O’Donnell? Did she run over your dog? She’ll do a better job than that SOB Castle. On this, as most things, Mark Levin is right.

Kalapana on September 10, 2010 at 6:41 PM

I assume that beta males, by definition, don’t qualify.

Aren’t you the famous stooge of a famous establishment figure?

promachus on September 10, 2010 at 6:41 PM

My God, GW Bush destroyed us when he jammed TARP through because he gave Obama cover to loot our treasury.

jeff_from_mpls on September 10, 2010 at 6:26 PM

Not to mention, he gave the loathsome Left ammunition in the form of “Where were you when Bush was doing it?” The answer “Burning up the phone lines” gets drowned out.

DrMagnolias on September 10, 2010 at 6:42 PM

To achieve any ADVANCE of conservative principles, the RINOS must be done away with….all of them.

If Democrats win as a result, we at least get clarity and political blame an be assigned accordingly for bad policy.

rickyricardo on September 10, 2010 at 6:43 PM

Don’t get cocky, GOP. There is a reason why the GOP brand still has an approval rating in the low 30s, worse than the Democrats.

One of the primary reasons why the GOP even stand a chance of taking control in November is the enthusiasm of the Tea Party movement, which up to know has been aligning itself with the GOP (thanks in part to Palin).

Let primary voters decide without endless demonization, FEC complaints and other crap. Keep this up, and you risk a split similar to the Reform/Progressive Conservatives split in Canada in the late 1980s. Up there; the traditional conservative party (Progressive Conservatives) was basically dead a few years later.

Norwegian on September 10, 2010 at 6:44 PM

Show me anyone here that gave Ted Kennedy a pass for Chappaquidick?

Apologetic California on September 10, 2010 at 6:33 PM

Every member of the Ruling Class did, as did apparently the majority of Massachusetts voters for approximately forever.

DrMagnolias on September 10, 2010 at 6:44 PM

My take on this is as much as I would love to take the Senate, it’s a long shot at best. If Castle does win and it was in Republican hands, who’s to say Snowe, or, Collins, or even Brown will be on board for repel. Our emphasis at this point is the House. If we control the purse strings we can strangle health care by not funding it. In 2012, if our new Congress behaves like they should , even more Democrat Senators come up for a vote. Strike then to repeal.

sandee on September 10, 2010 at 6:45 PM

Die, GOP, die.

jeff_from_mpls on September 10, 2010 at 6:26 PM

I bet Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid and Barack Obama feel the same way. In fact, I bet they are loving all of this.

Terrye on September 10, 2010 at 6:29 PM

Pelosi, Reid and Obama would just LOVE a GOP full of Mike Castles. Lib pundits who are always telling us that the GOP should “moderate” (read: go liberal) would be giddy as well.

ddrintn on September 10, 2010 at 6:46 PM

Do you know what this FEC complaint really means?

It means that some time yesterday, after the Palin endorsement, Castle’s pollsters found their candidate trailing O’Donnell for the first time.

That’s what that means.

[adapted from previous thread]

Emperor Norton on September 10, 2010 at 6:46 PM

PIMF repeal, not repel although I think that fits to.

sandee on September 10, 2010 at 6:47 PM

Horrors! O’Donnell is having financial troubles! Funny how one never reads of RINO establishment types having problems paying the bills. They have completely lost touch and are more comfortable chumming around on John Kerry’s yacht than fixing the country by governing according to the Constitution. For all her nuttiness, I bet O’Donnell has actually read the Constitution; I’m not so sure about the RINOs.

Kalapana on September 10, 2010 at 6:47 PM

Here is a rundown of Castle’s voting record back to July 2009. Concentrate on the first and third column and see how many times they match up.

VOTE CASTLE FOR THE GOOD OF THE PARTY! (just not sure which one)

http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/members/c000243/votes/against-party/

Bishop on September 10, 2010 at 6:40 PM

LOL…devastating. But…but…we need him to roll back the ObamaPelosiReid agenda!!!!!

ddrintn on September 10, 2010 at 6:48 PM

I may not think every pundit going with “the best we can expect from Delaware” as being part of the “ruling class” but state and national party leaders sticking their noses in primaries is definitely a blatant attempt to marginalize the voters. The name calling attached to this woman has been ridiculous and objectifying on many levels. The other argument I am seeing is that Ms. O’Donnell has no voting history to look at, so I assume that no newcomers are welcome, just the same old tired $hit that we have is the best we can expect. Hard to put a Vote Castle sign in a yard or on a bumper based on what I have read.

Cindy Munford on September 10, 2010 at 6:49 PM

Join the Big RINO Roundup.

faraway on September 10, 2010 at 6:49 PM

I said this on another thread, but I will re-word it here. I would rather the Dems keep the Senate than the current GOP leadership. Until the Senate GOP learns how to negotiate without giving away the store, the best place for them is the minority. As long as they have enough to filibuster, I’m happy until 2012.
If Castle wins (and he won’t now that he has gone scorched earth on the base) in a narrowly divided Senate, he will at best hold the rest of the Senate GOP hostage, at worst jump ship. If he were a Scott Brown I wouldn’t worry, but he seems to be more a Spectre/Jeffords type who holds conservatives in contempt. He has no place in the GOP and deserves to lose.
I’d rather lose with O’Donnell than “win” with this backstabber.

Random Numbers (Brian Epps) on September 10, 2010 at 6:51 PM

The other argument I am seeing is that Ms. O’Donnell has no voting history to look at, so I assume that no newcomers are welcome, just the same old tired $hit that we have is the best we can expect. Hard to put a Vote Castle sign in a yard or on a bumper based on what I have read.

Cindy Munford on September 10, 2010 at 6:49 PM

Preach it, sister. A year from now those now demonizing O’Donnell will reliably be moaning about the blatant RINOism of Mike Castle.

ddrintn on September 10, 2010 at 6:51 PM

A diamond with a flaw is better than a pebble without. I think I’ll go with O’Donnell.

Luka on September 10, 2010 at 6:52 PM

Here is a rundown of Castle’s voting record back to July 2009. Concentrate on the first and third column and see how many times they match up.

VOTE CASTLE FOR THE GOOD OF THE PARTY! (just not sure which one)

http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/members/c000243/votes/against-party/

Bishop on September 10, 2010 at 6:40 PM

Not to mention his Grade F from the NRA, his 100% Pro-Abortion rating from NARAL in past years, his failing grade from American Tax Payers Union, etc, etc.

The only real argument that can be made for Castle is his vote for committee-ships and to give the GOP the majority. And that argment is only valid if the GOP ends up with 51 Senators. If the GOP gets 52 or 50, it’s a mute point. Even that is sketchy, given that his voting record closely matches that of “Jumpin’ Jim” Jeffords, who left the GOP to caucus with the Democrats in 2001.

Norwegian on September 10, 2010 at 6:55 PM

Dusty, actually I am really worried. Allah and I agree on this (surprise surprise). That if you take out one, you will be choose one of the two (dem or repub) and depending on how P.O. people are.. they are going to go the opppsite.

Alaska is going through that right now. And if I said the dem mcadams might win, don’t take what I say lightly… I hope I am wrong. But what is going on in DE is kind of the same thing that happened up here. And it may just go totally blue.

upinak on September 10, 2010 at 6:32 PM

Yeah, some generic democrat is gonna beat Miller. Get REAL!

You have turned into an Eeyore deluxe. Snap out of it.

Instead of fretting over Senate-elect Joe Miller, get out there and help round up someone bad ass to take down Begich in the next cycle, and end that old dynasty as well!

gary4205 on September 10, 2010 at 6:55 PM

I don’t want to give specifics, but let me just say Palin just screwed up big time..

ninjapirate on September 10, 2010 at 6:10 PM

Wishful thinking on your part. Have you ever really voted for someone based on the endorsement of another person?

Cindy Munford on September 10, 2010 at 6:56 PM

Seems like electing RINOs like Castle just to take majority status has a major potential for backlash. If we elect clones of Snowe, Brown, etc who fold and end up voting for the liberal proposals the final conclusion is we get the same cr*p we got when the Dems were the majority but it will be the result of a GOP controlled Congress.

katiejane on September 10, 2010 at 6:57 PM

I say that as someone who’s firmly in the “vote for the electable RINO” camp.

You are KIDDING me, Allah. You…for Castle….I just don’t believe. Say it ain’t so.

Dan Pet on September 10, 2010 at 6:57 PM

Have you ever really voted for someone based on the endorsement of another person?

Cindy Munford on September 10, 2010 at 6:56 PM

Many dead people vote democrat based on that.

Luka on September 10, 2010 at 6:58 PM

Seems like electing RINOs like Castle just to take majority status has a major potential for backlash. If we elect clones of Snowe, Brown, etc who fold and end up voting for the liberal proposals the final conclusion is we get the same cr*p we got when the Dems were the majority but it will be the result of a GOP controlled Congress.

katiejane on September 10, 2010 at 6:57 PM

It’s actually just same ol’ same ol’, only expecting different results (“we’re really going to turn things around this time!”).

ddrintn on September 10, 2010 at 6:59 PM

Also, she just got the NRA endorsement.

Blake on September 10, 2010 at 6:09 PM

First an endorsement from Palin and now one from the NRA. That is going to push O’Donnell over the top in the general election. NRA membership crosses party lines. NRA members contribute, are active and they vote.

Senator Christine O’Donnell (R-DE) — I like the sound of it.

scrubjay on September 10, 2010 at 7:01 PM

Let’s start a pool here on how much of the legislation passed so far during the Obama administration gets rolled back. My money is on “zero”.

ddrintn on September 10, 2010 at 7:01 PM

Yeah, some generic democrat is gonna beat Miller. Get REAL!

You have turned into an Eeyore deluxe. Snap out of it.

Instead of fretting over Senate-elect Joe Miller, get out there and help round up someone bad ass to take down Begich in the next cycle, and end that old dynasty as well!

gary4205 on September 10, 2010 at 6:55 PM

See Dusty. Gary who doesn’t even live up here has no clue. But hey.. LOL he thinks everyone up here loves Sarah Palin as well.

Get real!

upinak on September 10, 2010 at 7:03 PM

— O’Donnell has knowingly accepted excessive contributions from the Tea Party Express that were directly solicited on behalf of the O’Donnell campaign, according to the filing.

— O’Donnell has accepted illegal excessive contributions from the Tea Party Express by engaging in a statewide coordinated communications effort in support of her campaign. This means, according to the complaint, that every advertisement that is being run by the Tea Party Express in support of O’Donnell is a violation of federal law.

What is “excessive” contributions? Contributions that are greater than those taken in by Team Castle? And what’s wrong with a candidate raking in the money, if it’s not an outright bribe?

ddrintn on September 10, 2010 at 7:05 PM

You are KIDDING me, Allah. You…for Castle….I just don’t believe. Say it ain’t so.

Dan Pet on September 10, 2010 at 6:57 PM

It takes a RINO candyass to know one :-)

At least the boss emiritus is firmly in O’Donnell’s corner.

Norwegian on September 10, 2010 at 7:06 PM

i guess we know no why Mike Castle is the only Republican to support Obama’s “fix” for the Citizen’s United ruling.

Rocks on September 10, 2010 at 6:23 PM

He didn’t just support it, he was a co-sponsor.

Joe Caps on September 10, 2010 at 7:07 PM

The second problem: Castle vs. O’Donnell isn’t just a “RINO vs. true conservative” contest. It’s also an “establishment vs. grassroots” contest, such that heavy-handed legal action by the state party — invoking the much-loathed strictures of campaign-finance law, no less — is, perhaps, not the best optics for Castle in this year of all years. How on earth will he gain more than he’ll lose from this complaint?

Oh, Castle’s just working on burnishing his “electability” cred.

ddrintn on September 10, 2010 at 7:08 PM

Jeffrey Lord argues in AmSpec today that O’Donnell. . . presents a challenge to the “Ruling Class” of conservatism.

Christine O’Donnell and Peggy Noonan are both graduates of Fairleigh Dickinson University (NJ). Draw your own conclusions.

Emperor Norton on September 10, 2010 at 7:08 PM

Luka on September 10, 2010 at 6:58 PM

LOL! You must admit that they are easier to manipulate.

Cindy Munford on September 10, 2010 at 7:11 PM

Christine O’Donnell and Peggy Noonan are both graduates of Fairleigh Dickinson University (NJ). Draw your own conclusions.

Emperor Norton on September 10, 2010 at 7:08 PM

And Rush Limbaugh and Terry Jones went to the same High School /Olberman logic

Norwegian on September 10, 2010 at 7:12 PM

Said it before, will say it again.

This is a SPECIAL ELECTION for the UNEXPIRED TERM of Joe Biden. The WINNER of this deal will be seated IMMEDIATELY, and not have to wait for the new Congress to convene.

Look, Castle has been called the “Ace of Spades” of Liberal Republicans. With his PROVEN voting record, he will be a vote for cap and tax, amnesty, card check, and absolutely anything else the Obama regime and his lame duck Congress wants to shove down our throats.

Even worse, with this assclown, they can scream “bi-partisan” all the way home!

Christine will be the BLOCKER of all things democrat in the lame duck session.

This is but another reason why Mike Castle must be defeated at ALL cost.

gary4205 on September 10, 2010 at 7:13 PM

Norwegian on September 10, 2010 at 7:06 PM

And a dusty, relatively uninhabited corner it is.

Vote parrot, 2010.

NoDonkey on September 10, 2010 at 7:14 PM

Emperor Norton on September 10, 2010 at 7:08 PM

Didn’t W & The Won both get their graduate degrees from Harvard?

Cindy Munford on September 10, 2010 at 7:15 PM

Castle is a RINO incumbent. The donks picking up the seat would be worth it, if it means that Castle is tossed out of elected office forevermore.

The way I see it, even a couple of weeks ago, CW was that we stood a good chance to win the House, while the Senate was a long shot. In fact, we didn’t even dare dream that there was a chance we could win big in the Senate. That included Castle coasting to reelection. Now, it looks like we have very strong chance to take the Senate. Again, assuming Castle wins as part of that red wave.

So what? Why have a GOP Senate majority if it will mean ‘fine-tuning’ Obamacare, enacting C&T, amenesty et al? Better that we don’t win the Senate and use our 40+, not counting the Maine Sisters and other squishies, to block the Senate from moving forward on the aforementioned.

Afterall, all bills orginate in the House! If the house is not sending up bills, the Senate has nothing to vote on.

IOW, by having a strong conservative majority in the House, we’ve already checkmated both the progressives and the squishies. So, yeah, I’m all for tossing Castle and letting a one-term donk sit in the seat for a while.

And in 2012, rinse and repeat until we build up a conservative majority that will undo inane laws, defund the bureaucrats and ultimately drive a wooden stake in the hearts of multiple alphabet agencies, starting with NEA, PBS, NPR et al.

To all the Castle fanatics, I’m simply taking the long view towards winning the culture war, and not gonna be stampeded by short-sighted tactical urges to win every seat at all costs.

Stand for something or fall for any RINO that only proposes to follow Obambi, Pelosi & Reid, albeit at a slower pace.

Realize this, in spite of all your efforts, if both Castle & O’Donnell go down in flames this November, so what? Take a chill pill. The people of Deleware have spoken and they’re getting the representation that they DESERVED.

AH_C on September 10, 2010 at 7:20 PM

See Dusty. Gary who doesn’t even live up here has no clue. But hey.. LOL he thinks everyone up here loves Sarah Palin as well.

Get real!

upinak on September 10, 2010 at 7:03 PM

Ah, but you forget I have more than a few connections to Alaska. Also a fair amount of common sense.

Your over the top, and irrational dislike for Joe Miller has clouded what used to be your good judgment.

If you think any democrat is going to win Alaska’s Senate seat, you have simply gone off the deep end.

Remember, Begich barely won, in a really BIG democrat year, with Ted Stevens looking at being thrown in jail! And Begich is a big name up up there. Another dynasty.

The democrat running against Joe is so unremarkable the DNC didn’t even have a clue who he was!!!!

This is a Republican year, big time, and Joe Miller has the right message. Get over it.

gary4205 on September 10, 2010 at 7:20 PM

Tom Ross = Scumbag

Joe Caps on September 10, 2010 at 7:22 PM

And a dusty, relatively uninhabited corner it is.

Vote parrot, 2010.

NoDonkey on September 10, 2010 at 7:14 PM

O’Donnell’s Corner : Rush, Levin, Malkin, NRA, Palin, Tea Party, Gunowners of America, etc.

Castle’s Corner: Pro-Abortion NARAL, RINOs, AP, small minority of Hotair commenters, ?

Call me crazy, but I know which corner I’d rather be in.

Norwegian on September 10, 2010 at 7:23 PM

Castle is a RINO incumbent. The donks picking up the seat would be worth it, if it means that Castle is tossed out of elected office forevermore.

The way I see it, even a couple of weeks ago, CW was that we stood a good chance to win the House, while the Senate was a long shot. In fact, we didn’t even dare dream that there was a chance we could win big in the Senate. That included Castle coasting to reelection. Now, it looks like we have very strong chance to take the Senate. Again, assuming Castle wins as part of that red wave.

So what? Why have a GOP Senate majority if it will mean ‘fine-tuning’ Obamacare, enacting C&T, amenesty et al? Better that we don’t win the Senate and use our 40+, not counting the Maine Sisters and other squishies, to block the Senate from moving forward on the aforementioned.

Afterall, all bills orginate in the House! If the house is not sending up bills, the Senate has nothing to vote on.

IOW, by having a strong conservative majority in the House, we’ve already checkmated both the progressives and the squishies. So, yeah, I’m all for tossing Castle and letting a one-term donk sit in the seat for a while.

And in 2012, rinse and repeat until we build up a conservative majority that will undo inane laws, defund the bureaucrats and ultimately drive a wooden stake in the hearts of multiple alphabet agencies, starting with NEA, PBS, NPR et al.

To all the Castle fanatics, I’m simply taking the long view towards winning the culture war, and not gonna be stampeded by short-sighted tactical urges to win every seat at all costs.

Stand for something or fall for any RINO that only proposes to follow Obambi, Pelosi & Reid, albeit at a slower pace.

Realize this, in spite of all your efforts, if both Castle & O’Donnell go down in flames this November, so what? Take a chill pill. The people of Deleware have spoken and they’re getting the representation that they DESERVED.

AH_C on September 10, 2010 at 7:20 PM

This bears repeating over, and over, and over again.

The truth will set us free!

gary4205 on September 10, 2010 at 7:23 PM

O’Donnell’s Corner : Rush, Levin, Malkin, NRA, Palin, Tea Party, Gunowners of America, etc.

Castle’s Corner: Pro-Abortion NARAL, RINOs, AP, small minority of Hotair commenters, ?

Call me crazy, but I know which corner I’d rather be in.

Norwegian on September 10, 2010 at 7:23 PM

I’m with the cool kids!

gary4205 on September 10, 2010 at 7:25 PM

Sock it to Joe!

gary4205 on September 10, 2010 at 7:26 PM

I don’t see what’s sos tupid with the Spectator article. It’s quite intelligent. It makes Jim look stupid because he does not respond with arguments but insults.

promachus on September 10, 2010 at 7:26 PM

[upinak on September 10, 2010 at 6:32 PM]

I think I understand your point. But what can you do? What happens in DE is what happens. Both sides are contributing to the rancor. Both sides stand to lose to the Dem. Still polling and the political environment in DE says one will be more likely to win than the other.

To tell the truth, I don’t mind the negative politicking, but after years of dealing with it, I also realize one needs to step back and consider things rationally after the fight and decide what is the better option left. The problem is that the people who say they’re going to teach a party a lesson are pretty much the ones who do nothing to improve the situation when it really counts — in between the the election years.

And to tell you the truth again, I view them as political rent-seekers, welfare queens who sit around expecting to be waited on hand and foot during elections by the candidates and party regulars who do the work day after day to get them there so you can support them (or choose not to.) But if you really wanted someone different, then you need to do the day to day work long in advance of when it counts, so you have to gain the control of the party apparatus.

Now, if I were in Delaware, I’d be voting for O’Donnell, not Castle, but if Castle wins I’d vote for him, because there are so many more benefits accruing from an R Senate majority than not. And you can expect I’d be working afterwards to make sure that in spite of the less preferred candidate being there, resulting problems are minimized and that my preferred leadership is given a leg up.

But that’s not all. You’ve got local and state level work that can be done, too. I wish many more were serious about getting states to move right and encouraging them to take away power from the Federal Government by whatever means necessary. They are a much better source of power than one representative or senator in DC.

I can appreciate the Tea Party work done in DE. If they win, more power to them and I hope they win in Nov. But if they lose they need to be fall in line and keep working on gaining more control of the party and maybe moderating their positions until they can win in November. As Glenn Reynolds would note, Republicanism is a process, not an event.

Dusty on September 10, 2010 at 7:27 PM

I think the beta male thing to do would be to vote for the person you agree with on the issues – I mean as a beta male – you have already given up winning.

To vote for the “most electable” candidate (a label we were told applied to McCain), sounds like a beta male having an identity crisis or tying to hide their beta status. : ))

Angry Dumbo on September 10, 2010 at 7:29 PM

don’t see what’s sos tupid with the Spectator article. It’s quite intelligent. It makes Jim look stupid because he does not respond with arguments but insults.

promachus on September 10, 2010 at 7:26 PM

Agreed, it was a very thoughtful article. Geraghty’s childish response? “It is the stupidest article ever!!eleventy!”

I’ve lost a lot of respect for Geraghty in recent months.

Norwegian on September 10, 2010 at 7:30 PM

I’ll tell you, if I was from Delaware, after this bit of brilliance by the GOP, I would vote for the Tea Party candidate of for no other reason…

Of course, there are other reasons to vote for her as well…

But in the GOP v. Tea Party calculus, the GOP is going down.

If the Republican Party re-captures the House and/or Senate this November, it will only be because of the Tea Party candidates. On its own, the GOP has shown all too frequently, its massive incompetence.

seanrobins on September 10, 2010 at 7:31 PM

Pelosi, Reid and Obama would just LOVE a GOP full of Mike Castles. Lib pundits who are always telling us that the GOP should “moderate” (read: go liberal) would be giddy as well.

ddrintn on September 10, 2010 at 6:46 PM

That’s irrelevant. It’s not the issue. The issue is whether they’d rather have a Castle or a Coons.

Dreadnought on September 10, 2010 at 7:33 PM

Right now Voinovich is going toc ross the aisle apparently rpovide the 60th vote bipartissan ocver for Odummy. What makes you so sure that Castle won’t do the same? Given the likelihood, he’ll do it all the time, why take the risk on him?

promachus on September 10, 2010 at 7:34 PM

Ah, but you forget I have more than a few connections to Alaska. Also a fair amount of common sense.

I know who your connections are gary. FFS Alaska isn’t that big!

Your over the top, and irrational dislike for Joe Miller has clouded what used to be your good judgment.

And I care what you think about how I think about joe why? YOU ARE NOT AN ALASKAN!!!! GET IT THROUGH YOUR HEAD!!!

If you think any democrat is going to win Alaska’s Senate seat, you have simply gone off the deep end.

Begich… I don’t have to say anymore do I?

Remember, Begich barely won, in a really BIG democrat year, with Ted Stevens looking at being thrown in jail! And Begich is a big name up up there. Another dynasty.

LOL another dynasty? His died is/has been missing for the best part of 25 yrs via a Plane crash possibly. Are you smoking something?

The democrat running against Joe is so unremarkable the DNC didn’t even have a clue who he was!!!!

But this is the DNC… they don’t know half their people.

This is a Republican year, big time, and Joe Miller has the right message. Get over it.

gary4205 on September 10, 2010 at 7:20 PM

I said wait for the damn election results. So how about YOU stop pumping yourself. Jesus you seriously need a f-ing chill pill.

upinak on September 10, 2010 at 7:34 PM

I can appreciate the Tea Party work done in DE. If they win, more power to them and I hope they win in Nov. But if they lose they need to be fall in line and keep working on gaining more control of the party and maybe moderating their positions until they can win in November. As Glenn Reynolds would note, Republicanism is a process, not an event.

Dusty on September 10, 2010 at 7:27 PM

Oh I totally agree Dusty. But I just don’t see the TEA moving on… and if they start getting a little rowdy (which they are) people are going to back away. It is the reason I am backing away…..

as for gary I AM VOTING FOR MILLER.. holding my nose due to the stench. But some people seriously need to stop and get their heads out of their bums.

upinak on September 10, 2010 at 7:37 PM

I said wait for the damn election results. So how about YOU stop pumping yourself. Jesus you seriously need a f-ing chill pill.

upinak on September 10, 2010 at 7:34 PM

You’re the one who has lost it girl, not me!

It’s hilarious watching you look silly though.

gary4205 on September 10, 2010 at 7:39 PM

Pelosi, Reid and Obama would just LOVE a GOP full of Mike Castles. Lib pundits who are always telling us that the GOP should “moderate” (read: go liberal) would be giddy as well.

ddrintn on September 10, 2010 at 6:46 PM

That’s irrelevant. It’s not the issue. The issue is whether they’d rather have a Castle or a Coons.

Dreadnought on September 10, 2010 at 7:33 PM

I will tell you what I don’t understand, I do not understand the willingness of certain people to overlook this woman’s problems with the IRS, the mortgage company and her forclosure, her unpaid bills, all sorts of things in her past that should give people pause to wonder about her character and electability.

Joe Miller had a hell of a resume and he was not some con artist or something. This lady is no Joe Miller and all these people who have had problems with her are not all slaves of the old guard or something.

Castle is a moderate Republican who will vote the way you want him to about 50 or 60% of the time. He is very typical for his region. But this lady has some real problems that are not going to just go away and if she has to run against the Democrats, it will only get worse.

Terrye on September 10, 2010 at 7:41 PM

But in any case – I know Mike Castle will LOSE the general – and I’ll send $100 to his Dimmocratic opponent to aid that. Any vote against Castle – in any election (general or primary) is a vote FOR a reformed GOP.

HondaV65 on September 10, 2010 at 6:37 PM

Exactly how do you know that? He’s leading by 11 points in the latest poll vs. Coons.

Dreadnought on September 10, 2010 at 7:42 PM

Call me crazy, but I know which corner I’d rather be in.

Norwegian on September 10, 2010 at 7:23 PM

The corner with a blockhead in it?

If O’Donnell is qualified to be a Senator, then anyone is.

She’s an idiot.

Maybe a trained idiot who will vote the way you (and I) want her to, but she’s a unqualified fool who will add nothing to the Senate.

We’re better than that.

You want a trained monkey, vote for one.

I’d sit at home rather than vote for any of the candidates in this race, it’s absolutely appalling that Delaware can’t do better than this.

NoDonkey on September 10, 2010 at 7:44 PM

Castle is against repeal of Obamacare,supposedly because Obama would veto the repeal.

Hogwash

On Mark levin’s site, I picked up a link to removerinos com / CastleM html which has a long list of Castle votes:

One of eight GOP votes in the House for cap and trade
Voted against the surge
Vote against missile defense 2007, 2008, 2009
Voted for Pelosi’s Light bulb ban
Voted for 2007 Housing Trust Fund (fannie/freddie)
Voted against keeping illegals from getting drivers licenses
…. think Motor Voter to understand how bad that is
Voted for Sanctuary Cities for illegals 2005, 2007
Voted against speeding up Building of border fence
Voted for Auto Bailout
Voted for Cash for Clunkers
Voted for 2008 Stimulus
Voted for 2008 TARP
Voted against 2007 earmark reform
Voted against right of workers to secret ballot
Voted against easing McCain Feingold
Voted against Online Freedom of Speech Bill
Voted to Override Bush veto of SCHIP childrens insurance
Voted to Double 2007 SCHIP
Voted for 2007 DEM ENergy BIll
Voted against 2007 amendment to withold tax dollars from Planned Parenthood
Voted to apply McCain Feingold to grassroots organizations

my hands are tired…

Voted against an amendment which would prevent Indiana from banning prayer in the Indiana House
Voted against Courthouse display of Ten Commandments
Voted against allowing DC residents to keep firearms
VOted against bill to protect gun makers from lawsuit (a gimmick being used to sue them out of business)
Voted to fund UN population Fund
Voted against UN Reform
Voted to spend an additional 100 million on Public Broadcasting
Voted against federal ban on eminent domain seizures to protect against developers-for-profit

It goes on and on. This site does not list all the anti gun votes I found at other sites

The guy wont even vote to repeal obamacare. Meanwhile the GOP Tries to make O Donnell unelectable, apparently preferring a DEM to O Donnell. I would prefer a DEM to Castle since Obama destroys DEMs as his ship sinks even more.

Regardless Obama gets to appoint to the Supreme Court as long as he is Prez, and unless the nominee is a drooler, the GOP will have to accept the choice

The battle isn’t over. The list of votes is long and uniform. Why do the RINOs need suche votes as these?

entagor on September 10, 2010 at 7:46 PM

The level of naivete found in reading this thread would be astonishing if not so typical of closed minded people who are absolutely certain they are correct in every way, whether they be Conservative or Liberal. I get Sarah Palin, she’s highly attractive, energetic, full of Reaganesque can-do spirit which is infectious and the antidote to Obama’s petulant whininess, and wimpiness. Fine I get all that, but if you look at Christine freakin O’Donnell and see more then the Stepford Wive, doll-eyed emptiness, that exudes from her every pour you’re seeing something that ain’t there. And if you back everything Sarah Palin does and says unquestioningly well maybe you’ve got some of that Stepford Wive emptiness goin on too.

ac1 on September 10, 2010 at 7:48 PM

Horrors! O’Donnell is having financial troubles! Funny how one never reads of RINO establishment types having problems paying the bills.

Kalapana on September 10, 2010 at 6:47 PM

Maybe its because serious people who have serious aspirations to public office tend to PAY THEIR BILLS ON TIME.

Think that might have something to do with it?

JohnGalt23 on September 10, 2010 at 7:49 PM

You’re the one who has lost it girl, not me!

It’s hilarious watching you look silly though.

gary4205 on September 10, 2010 at 7:39 PM

But being here longer, people take me seriously. Unlike you whom likes to put people down.. and obviously loves being a d!ck.

Have a great one Gary!

upinak on September 10, 2010 at 7:52 PM

Castle is not Nancy Pelosi.

Terrye on September 10, 2010 at 6:33 PM
Way to go out on a limb there.

fossten on September 10, 2010 at 6:40 PM

Considering I have seen many comments on these threads calling Castle a Nazi, a Marxist, and an Ayatollah, your remark, which I assume you meant sarcastically, actually should probably be taken seriously. Right?

I mean Terrye was really going out on a limb there, becuase Castle is much worse than Pelosi, right?

Dreadnought on September 10, 2010 at 7:53 PM

Didn’t W & The Won both get their graduate degrees from Harvard?

Bush: Harvard M.B.A.
Obama: Harvard J.D.
Romney: Harvard M.B.A. and a Harvard J.D.

Emperor Norton on September 10, 2010 at 7:54 PM

Emperor Norton on September 10, 2010 at 7:54 PM

I know, I was just wondering what the connection of the school has to do with Ms. Noonan and Ms O’Donnell? I guess I should have just asked.

Cindy Munford on September 10, 2010 at 7:57 PM

Had no one peed his pants in the Castle camp over internal polling, they would still be ignoring Christine.

“I love the smell of desperation in the morning… smells like victory.”

Akzed on September 10, 2010 at 7:59 PM

Dreadnought on September 10, 2010 at 7:53 PM

Really? The worst I have seen him called was RINO but Ms. O’Donnell has been called a prostitute, thief, an associate of David Duke, crazy and a liar. Rep. Castle should not be called those names you mentioned but these threads have not been a one way street.

Cindy Munford on September 10, 2010 at 7:59 PM

Campaign contributions were limited to Senate and other federal candidates long before “Campaign Finance Reform,” and it has long been illegal to coordinate spending with a supposedly “independent” group – not that it isn’t still done frequently, but you can’t be blatant about it.
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Think about it: if an “independent” group goes out and raises money specifically for a candidate, it gives donors a way to skirt the law on limits. That’s why it’s illegal.
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O’Donnell lies about winning counties in 2008, accuses the radio jock who called her on the lie of being in the RNC’s pocket, pays her personal apartment rent with campaign money, brags she has income she doesn’t disclose (as required by law), and “sells” her house to her campaign attorney to avoid foreclosure, and generally seems at best sloppy and uncaring about the regulations.
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But when someone raises the point she might be violating the law, THEY become the bad guys?
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You people need higher standards.

Adjoran on September 10, 2010 at 8:00 PM

The guy wont even vote to repeal obamacare. Meanwhile the GOP Tries to make O Donnell unelectable, apparently preferring a DEM to O Donnell. I would prefer a DEM to Castle since Obama destroys DEMs as his ship sinks even more.

entagor on September 10, 2010 at 7:46 PM

Castle is the sponsor of a bill to repeal Obamacare. He has a 53% ACU rating. You will look long and hard to find a Democrat with a 53% ACU rating, and you won’t find one on the East Coast. Period.

And the part Obama sinking Dems-well, Obama sinking Dems doesn’t help much if all you do is put up unelectable Republicans against them, to bail out their boat, as it were.

You know, like what’s happening here.

Dreadnought on September 10, 2010 at 8:01 PM

Mark Levin just broke on his show that Jim DeMint is about to endorse O’Donnell in the Delaware Senate GOP primary.

Buckeye Babe on September 10, 2010 at 8:02 PM

Fine I get all that, but if you look at Christine freakin O’Donnell and see more then the Stepford Wive, doll-eyed emptiness, that exudes from her every pour you’re seeing something that ain’t there.

ac1 on September 10, 2010 at 7:48 PM

I would vote for a ham sandwich over someone with Mike Castle’s voting record (see above). I don’t buy your assesment of Christine O’Donnell but assuming it were true I would still rather have someone who votes for conservative principles. Which of the following phrases is correct:
1) I are a millionare.
2) I haven’t a penny to my name.

The answer is 1).

We have enough “smart” senator who go around saying Jen-jish Kahn who cast the stupidest votes. You can have them.

scrubjay on September 10, 2010 at 8:03 PM

as for gary I AM VOTING FOR MILLER.. holding my nose due to the stench. But some people seriously need to stop and get their heads out of their bums.

upinak on September 10, 2010 at 7:37 PM

Yeah, because NOTHING says stench like a Constitution loving Conservative!

What a joke.

gary4205 on September 10, 2010 at 8:03 PM

Buckeye Babe on September 10, 2010 at 8:02 PM

Hey how ’bout that.

A talker endorsing another talker.

We need more than talkers.

NoDonkey on September 10, 2010 at 8:04 PM

If Castle wins and then turns around and stabs the Republicans in the back, I don’t expect to hear any whining from the pro-Castle crowd.

Why is it that we claim we want to change the Senate and then turn right around and vote for business as usual? So O’Donnell has a few financial troubles. So what? So do most ordinary folks right now. Give me someone not in the Ruling Class. I’m sick of self-proclaimed aristocrats.

hachiban on September 10, 2010 at 8:04 PM

O’Donnell lies about winning counties in 2008, accuses the radio jock who called her on the lie of being in the RNC’s pocket, pays her personal apartment rent with campaign money, brags she has income she doesn’t disclose (as required by law), and “sells” her house to her campaign attorney to avoid foreclosure, and generally seems at best sloppy and uncaring about the regulations.

Oh c’mon. Those are just little mistakes. Everyone has made mistakes like that, right? Stop persecuting the woman.

Dreadnought on September 10, 2010 at 8:05 PM

O’Donnell’s Corner : Rush, Levin, Malkin, NRA, Palin, Tea Party, Gunowners of America, etc.

Yeah, and we know what great judgement Levin and the Tea Party Express have, since they gave us Angle in NV. Sure, that probably saved Harry Reid, but it’s better to have a Dem in that seat than a horrible RINO like Lowden or Tarkanian, right?

BTW, when did Rush endorse O’Donnell?

Jon0815 on September 10, 2010 at 8:05 PM

I know, I was just wondering what the connection of the school has to do with Ms. Noonan and Ms O’Donnell?

Well, this:

Jeffrey Lord argues in AmSpec today that O’Donnell. . . presents a challenge to the “Ruling Class” of conservatism.

One of the acknowledged members of the ruling class of conservatism is Peggy Noonan. And yet, ironically, Dame Peggy graduated from humble and modest Fairleigh Dickinson University just like Christine O’Donnell.

Emperor Norton on September 10, 2010 at 8:06 PM

[entagor on September 10, 2010 at 7:46 PM]

Which is why I’m so terribly sad to see that the Tea Party chose to support O’Donnell rather than some minimally qualified candidate. Still, if Al Franken can be a Senator, I can’t see how anyone can complain about the qualifications of Christine O’Donnell.

The only really important factor I see, though, is who can win the Superbowl, not the playoff game.

Dusty on September 10, 2010 at 8:08 PM

But being here longer, people take me seriously. Unlike you whom likes to put people down.. and obviously loves being a d!ck.

Have a great one Gary!

upinak on September 10, 2010 at 7:52 PM

We all stopped taking you seriously around the second time you threw a hissy fit and took your blog down because things didn’t go your way. You’ve become Alaska’s Lisa Graas.

That’s quite sad. You used to have a lot of credibility with everyone. Now, not so much.

gary4205 on September 10, 2010 at 8:08 PM

Yeah, because NOTHING says stench like a Constitution loving Conservative!

What a joke.

gary4205 on September 10, 2010 at 8:03 PM

How the hell would you know Gary? :)

All you do is sit on here and talk on Palin threads in HotAir! Do you actually venture outside of Palin.. in any sense?

You are now my new stalker. :)

upinak on September 10, 2010 at 8:09 PM

We all stopped taking you seriously around the second time you threw a hissy fit and took your blog down because things didn’t go your way. You’ve become Alaska’s Lisa Graas.

That’s quite sad. You used to have a lot of credibility with everyone. Now, not so much.

gary4205 on September 10, 2010 at 8:08 PM

I don’t care about credibility. Who is throwing a hissy now gary?

Poor little gary. :)

upinak on September 10, 2010 at 8:10 PM

Mark Levin just broke on his show that Jim DeMint is about to endorse O’Donnell in the Delaware Senate GOP primary.

Buckeye Babe on September 10, 2010 at 8:02 PM

Do tell.

I guess he’s an asshole too now!

gary4205 on September 10, 2010 at 8:11 PM

Exit question: Are all O’Donnell skeptics/grudging Castle supporters also part of the “Ruling Class,”

No they belong to a different class named “useful idiots”

Lenin would be so proud…

unseen on September 10, 2010 at 8:11 PM

Still, if Al Franken can be a Senator, I can’t see how anyone can complain about the qualifications of Christine O’Donnell.

Because we’re NOT jackass Democrats.

I never thought I’d see the day when Republicans could possibly nominate someone even less qualified than Franken.

Nice going Rush. Obama’s the least experience person in the room?

If the janitor is in the room, Christine will STILL be the least experienced person in the room.

And at least the janitor probably pays his bills.

NoDonkey on September 10, 2010 at 8:12 PM

Slightly OT, who was it at NRO who said, of Linda MacMahon of Connecticut (the wrestling entertainment executive, who won the GOP primary for Senate, “do we really want that kind of person representing the Republican party?” (paraphrasing)

I’m sorry, but that was pretty much a Ruling Class comment.

DaydreamBeliever on September 10, 2010 at 8:12 PM

Have we learned nothing from NY-23?

Take one “ego candidate” who runs for office a lot, who lives in a rather blue area. Finally s/he sees a chance to win, what with the Tea Party and all. Find the one Republican who somehow slipped through, probably because s/he’s a RINO. Run against said RINO, and send out a narrative of how the “ruling-class RINOs” are attacking their spunky little “troo conservative” campaign.

A lot of Tea Party types tend to be deep in the heart of Red States. Red areas can get as caught in groupthink as blue areas. Everybody they know is caught up in the change. What was once a sea of 0bama campaign stickers is now bare. Even the most obnoxious 0bamabots has STFU.

But it may not be so where the election is taking place. I predict that if O’Donnell wins, and proceeds to lose in the general election, there will be people genuinely shocked, as if this wasn’t what was going to happen all along.

I’m saying folks need to do their research on what is actually happening, and not get caught up in the moment. This is the fatal flaw of the Tea Party movement. And somewhere along the line, the actual Ruling Class will figure out how to exploit it against the Tea Party.

Sekhmet on September 10, 2010 at 8:13 PM

I’m saying folks need to do their research on what is actually happening, and not get caught up in the moment. This is the fatal flaw of the Tea Party movement. And somewhere along the line, the actual Ruling Class will figure out how to exploit it against the Tea Party.

Sekhmet on September 10, 2010 at 8:13 PM

I have a feeling they already have. But then.. I have no credibility via the Palin-maniacs. LOL!

upinak on September 10, 2010 at 8:15 PM

Mark Levin just broke on his show that Jim DeMint is about to endorse O’Donnell in the Delaware Senate GOP primary.

Buckeye Babe on September 10, 2010 at 8:02 PM

The endorsement is up on Demint’s twitter update

clement on September 10, 2010 at 8:15 PM

How the hell would you know Gary? :)

All you do is sit on here and talk on Palin threads in HotAir! Do you actually venture outside of Palin.. in any sense?

You are now my new stalker. :)

upinak on September 10, 2010 at 8:09 PM

You sure have become a bitter woman lately.

This has absolutely NOTHING to do with Sarah Palin.

I like Joe Miller. The man is a class act. Have researched and written about the guy. I respect him. He’s always been quite cordial to me.

You have just gotten bitter. Not sure why, really, and don’t care. But you have.

Shock of shockers, I DO have a life outside of Hot Air.

Anyhow, have fun being bitter.

gary4205 on September 10, 2010 at 8:15 PM

scrubjay on September 10, 2010 at 8:03 PM

I’m just basing my observations from what I’ve seen of her as a talking head on cable, she just seems like the type to have two books written in advance; one about how she overcame the party establishment to win this primary battle, and another about how the party establishment prevented her from winning this primary battle. She just has a “hey buy my book” quality that gets my guts churning, as for him Castle who? I mean has any group of people ever cared so much about the state of Delaware before?

ac1 on September 10, 2010 at 8:16 PM

She’ll do a better job than that SOB Castle.

And he’ll be better than Coons.

I’m always for the most conservative person I think can be elected, and I don’t think she can be. In a red state I would go to the mat for a blood red conservative, though not her as I think she’s a just a few shades better than Alvin Greene, who also holds a BA. I’m going to be knocking on doors for Dan Flores this weekend and next, when I live about an hour & 15 minutes from that district, because I think Chet Edwards can be taken out and my district is safely red. So don’t call me a RINO.

But the attitude of throwing away winnable seats is part of how we got to the point of having to repeal Obamacare in the first place. Righties got – understandably – pissed at the Bush admin, and instead of trying to work to get better representation they stayed home instead. And it hath wrought hell on the country.

So, yeah, I’d rather have Castle and know he could win than give the Dems another seat, they already have 59.

lizzie beth on September 10, 2010 at 8:17 PM

Thank God the Delaware Senate race only has 2 candidates on the GOP ballot or it could have turned out like NY 23; and thank god it is a closed primary (no independents and Democrats allowed).

technopeasant on September 10, 2010 at 8:18 PM

This whole “Ruling class” thing is hilarious too, hahaha, if anything keeps the Dems in power it’ll be stupid crap like that dividing conservatives, play into their hands much.

I Rule You!!

ac1 on September 10, 2010 at 8:18 PM

[ac1 on September 10, 2010 at 7:48 PM]

Really, what’s your point? Ask me whether I would care that my senator — who voted the way I preferred 100% of the time — was as superficial and stupid as you.

Dusty on September 10, 2010 at 8:19 PM

Have we learned nothing from NY-23?

Sekhmet on September 10, 2010 at 8:13 PM

Hoffman almost won that one. Scozzifava threw it to the democrat out of spite.
Bill Owens 73,137 48.3
Doug Hoffman 69,553 46.0

scrubjay on September 10, 2010 at 8:19 PM

The endorsement is up on Demint’s twitter update

clement on September 10, 2010 at 8:15 PM

Oh noes, DeMint is a crazy tea partier eleventy-eleven !!!!!!!!!

gary4205 on September 10, 2010 at 8:20 PM

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