Senate Republican establishment not exactly looking forward to Tea Party majority?

posted at 12:55 pm on September 9, 2010 by Ed Morrissey

In this election cycle, voters have had to ask themselves on several occasions whether they want a Senate with 30 Jim DeMints or 51 Republicans of varied approaches that can get things accomplished.  We didn’t think that the Senate Republican Caucus would question whether they would prefer 30 Lindsey Grahams or 51 seats with a substantial number of conservatives.  The Daily Caller’s Jonathan Strong detects something less than enthusiasm from the current Senate Republican leadership in the surging fortunes of conservative candidates backed by the Tea Party:

Many of the conservative firebrands in the group are affiliated with the Tea Party. They’re all outsiders, many of whom defeated the GOP establishment candidate in their primary elections. Let’s just say it won’t be sleepy in the Senate come 2011.

“The GOP Senate caucus will be the most conservative since at least World War II,” said Larry Sabato, director of the University of Virginia’s Center for Politics.

For conservatives, that sounds pretty good. Some imagine the strengthened numbers of conservatives will form a pivotal block that will move the entire body to the right.

“That’d be good for the Party, more DeMints, more Coburns,” said one conservative GOP operative to The Daily Caller.

But for Republican moderates, the Rand Pauls and Sharron Angles of the world are disconcerting. Some express fear that what they perceive as the candidates’ “radical” views will prove a political liability for the Republican Party.

I’m a little skeptical of this report, but mainly in scope.  Sherwood Boehlert hardly speaks for Republican leadership, and for good reason.  Strong quotes him as calling Sharron Angle “crazy with her claims,” just the kind of helpful quote that will help Harry Reid in his quest to remain in control of his own seat and the Senate in 2011.  Unless the rest of the Republican leadership likes operating in the minority, Boehlert speaks for a caucus of one, and in the wrong chamber of Congress regarding this election.

However, it’s probably accurate to say that the conservative surge has current GOP leadership in the Senate a tad nervous.  Two of Mitch McConnell’s key allies in leadership, Bob Bennett of Utah and Lisa Murkowski of Alaska, just got forcibly retired in their primaries by Tea Party candidates.  McConnell will almost certainly keep his leadership position in the next session of Congress, but his caucus will have changed considerably.  He will have to consult more with Jim DeMint and Tom Coburn on the agenda and the policies than before, and he won’t have many colleagues remaining in the mold of his previous allies.

As it should be, too.  If Republicans gain majorities from this election in either or both chambers of Congress, it will give them a mandate for change unlike anything seen in many years, given the radical shift to the Left during the last two sessions of Congress.  If they fail to realize that and refuse to make significant cuts in spending and in the size of government, then Republicans will get shown the door almost as quickly as Democrats did.


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Awwwwwwwwww.

NotCoach on September 9, 2010 at 1:00 PM

Kick out McConnell.

TimTebowSavesAmerica on September 9, 2010 at 1:01 PM

So when the Tea Party becomes the establishment, will the previous establishment become the tea party that will fight to become the establishment?

Its all so confusing.

portlandon on September 9, 2010 at 1:01 PM

Many of the conservative firebrands in the group are affiliated with the Tea Party. They’re all outsiders, many of whom defeated the GOP establishment candidate in their primary elections.

It’s a Damn Good Start. Everyone should be scared of losing their job, if not in this election then the next. It’s their own damn fault, soon it will be the RINOs and political elite that will be the outsiders. (hopefully outside of Washington)

Tommy_G on September 9, 2010 at 1:01 PM

Yeah, expect to see more of these types of stories. You know… The infighting and chaos in the Republican party because of those teabagger “nuts.” It’s panic time for the libs.

sandee on September 9, 2010 at 1:01 PM

Sherwood is simply giving the LSM ammunition before the mid terms. He is a scared little puppy.

d1carter on September 9, 2010 at 1:02 PM

They’ve screwed this country up for too long. They now get to be reacquainted with what the founders intended. Too bad for establishment Republicans. In the immortal words of Sean Connery, “Suck it Trebek!”

HadithHarry on September 9, 2010 at 1:02 PM

McConnell will almost certainly keep his leadership position in the next session of Congress, but his caucus will have changed considerably.

McConnell has occasionally made some brilliant moves, but I dare say he is past his expiration date. Events have passed him by. I hope there is at least a challenge next spring.

Vashta.Nerada on September 9, 2010 at 1:03 PM

We were so close to

Ed: make significant cuts in spending and in the size of government

in 1995 with Gingrich, then the govt shutdown and the OK City bombing and Clinton got new life. Gingrich blinked. Will we get it right this time?

Paul-Cincy on September 9, 2010 at 1:04 PM

Tough toe nails r’s! Get use to it!
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letget on September 9, 2010 at 1:04 PM

US Senators who make a career out of trying to fit in to the Ruling Class are upset over new Senators who won’t do that, but will do their job? Inconceivable!

Weebork on September 9, 2010 at 1:05 PM

Whatever, but the GOP fossil seat-warmers should be running scared too; retiring all the porkers and good ol’ boys is a bipartisan venture.

Bishop on September 9, 2010 at 1:05 PM

Who cares if the current leaders are wary?This is what we want.They haven’t seemed to care much about what we want but they better start.

docflash on September 9, 2010 at 1:07 PM

it will give them a mandate for change unlike anything seen in many years

Yes. And that’s why they should immediately move to repeal Obamacare and Financial Reform, and when Obama vetoes everything, the public will finally see who the true obstructionist is.

John the Libertarian on September 9, 2010 at 1:08 PM

The only way McConnell is going to really get the conservative message is to challenge him for the leadership. The conservatives have to set the tone immediately that the new boss is not like the old boss.

WisRich on September 9, 2010 at 1:08 PM

If they fail to realize that and refuse to make significant cuts in spending and in the size of government, then Republicans will get shown the door almost as quickly as Democrats did.

And we’ll talk about them like a dog.

(except that I like dogs.)

rbj on September 9, 2010 at 1:08 PM

Who gives a crap…. these people need to be shaken up and a little scared.

roux on September 9, 2010 at 1:09 PM

We better get Mike Castle in there to help out all those poor outnumbered RINO’s.

Akzed on September 9, 2010 at 1:11 PM

If they fail to realize that and refuse to make significant cuts in spending and in the size of government, then Republicans will get shown the door almost as quickly as Democrats did.

Exactly. Both Pelosi & Barry campaigned for their current positions on a platform of fiscal responsibility because W’s spending was out of control. It was all lies, but the voters are still looking for the exact same thing. Fiscal responsibility & getting government back in control.

lizzie beth on September 9, 2010 at 1:12 PM

Throw EVERY ONE OF THEM out of office and start from scratch.

How could it be worse?

PappyD61 on September 9, 2010 at 1:12 PM

Who cares what the Democrat-lite Party likes? They’re part of the problem, not the solution.

Government expanded under them also.

We need people in office that are committed to cutting the size of government.

ButterflyDragon on September 9, 2010 at 1:12 PM

Poor, poor Harry Reid, the well of the senate will smell just like the visiting citizens.

Akzed on September 9, 2010 at 1:13 PM

Oh well.
Apparently what they fail to realize is that the tea party nuts agree with independents that the Republicans can be just as bad as Democrats.
The establishment may be slow but they are not stupid. If they want to keep their jobs, they’ll figure it out.

ORconservative on September 9, 2010 at 1:14 PM

Sherwood is simply giving the LSM ammunition before the mid terms. He is a scared little puppy.

d1carter on September 9, 2010 at 1:02 PM

Is he running for something? Because he was voted out in 06 IIRC for a real lib.

lizzie beth on September 9, 2010 at 1:14 PM

Some imagine the strengthened numbers of conservatives will form a pivotal block that will move the entire body to the right.

MEME Alert. How is balancing the budget a far right issue? Who is against balancing the budget?

The Tea Party is very centrist.

faraway on September 9, 2010 at 1:14 PM

HHHMMMM that’s the idea is to get rid of the moderate republicans and replace them with conservative republicans. Seriously WTF is wrong with the RNC have they NOT been listening?????

xler8bmw on September 9, 2010 at 1:17 PM

What? They thought they could co-opt the Tea Party accomplishments without a fight? Sounds like they a just begging to learn the hard way.

Christien on September 9, 2010 at 1:18 PM

We better get Mike Castle in there to help out all those poor outnumbered RINO’s.

Akzed on September 9, 2010 at 1:11 PM

Sorry, I’d still rather have a half a loaf than someone that will vote down the line for Barry’s latest nuttery.

lizzie beth on September 9, 2010 at 1:19 PM

I’ll take 41 Tea Partiers over 51 RINOs any day.

OhioCoastie on September 9, 2010 at 1:20 PM

It will be up to us to pressure them after January. Keeping politicians honest is a full-time job.

Remember what Heinlein always said: “An honest politician is one that stays bought.” The ones in there now stopped staying bought by the taxpayers a long time ago. They went freelance. We have to jerk the reins hard and make them remember who pays their salary — and who can fire them if they don’t behave.

hachiban on September 9, 2010 at 1:20 PM

Seriously WTF is wrong with the RNC have they NOT been listening?????

xler8bmw on September 9, 2010 at 1:17 PM

Oooooooh.ooooooh (waves hand in the air)I know the answer!!!!

N.O.!

sicoit on September 9, 2010 at 1:21 PM

sicoit on September 9, 2010 at 1:21 PM

LOL

xler8bmw on September 9, 2010 at 1:24 PM

Tough toenails, you bunch of cronies. You have disgraced yourself, your party, and your nation by conspiring with the Democrats to keep out political competition. We’ve spent long enough ping-ponging between two groups of lying scumbags who have precious little real difference.

Dark-Star on September 9, 2010 at 1:25 PM

Seriously WTF is wrong with the RNC have they NOT been listening?????

Scozzafalapava.

Bishop on September 9, 2010 at 1:27 PM

McConnell will almost certainly keep his leadership position in the next session of Congress

that right there is a travesty. He needs to be replaced as minority leader, or primaried.

james23 on September 9, 2010 at 1:27 PM

The only thing finer than a bunch of establishment republicans unemployed would be a bunch of establishment democrats in prison.

trigon on September 9, 2010 at 1:28 PM

The party’s over, bluebloods.

It’s time for We The People to take charge.

UltimateBob on September 9, 2010 at 1:29 PM

the current Senate Republican leadership

Were I one of them, I’d be more concerned ABOUT KEEPING MY JOB.

GarandFan on September 9, 2010 at 1:30 PM

The problem is that this same Republican leadership are largely career politicians who have held on to their seats for decades. They are the same bunch that helped cost the GOP the Senate back on 2006. McConnell and company had better get used to the tea party, as they are the Republicans’ best chance to truly reform the way things are done in DC….at least until they get fat and entrenched.

simkeith on September 9, 2010 at 1:31 PM

i saw coburn’s town hall on cspan. he’s very smart, very principled. the audience loved him.

i’m sure that most moderate R’s are not that smart. they don’t have the brights to figure out to out argue someone from the left. they probably vaguely agree with the left of the historic inevitably of the left’s prescription.

the best these guy’s can do is slow down progress….they have no way to understand that the progress of the left is actually the retreat to a time of tyranny.

r keller on September 9, 2010 at 1:33 PM

The only reason it looks like the ‘most conservative caucus since WW2′ is because we’ve been moving steadily hard left for that long. Screw these whiney old GOP farts. Go home and slurp some oatmeal and suck up your cushy taxpayer funded senate pension, jerks.

Monica on September 9, 2010 at 1:36 PM

very principled

Does ANYONE in DC understand what that means?

oldleprechaun on September 9, 2010 at 1:38 PM

Bohlert was tough as mush when he was in Congress and many of us couldn’t wait to be rid of him. Now thanks to gerrymandering, we’re stuck with Miss Paul Tonko. There isn’t a dime’s worth of difference between them.

A great many of the incumbents need to be shown the door.

Mr. Grump on September 9, 2010 at 1:39 PM

Could it be that the Tea Party’s greatest achievement is exposing progressive Republicans? They’re scurrying around like cockroaches.

indy8 on September 9, 2010 at 1:40 PM

If O’Donnell beats Castle they are going to have a conniption.

Rocks on September 9, 2010 at 1:41 PM

Old paradigm: the people fear their government.
New paradigm: the government fears its people.

Shift indicator: Jefferson stops turning in his grave to catch a new whiff of liberty.

Choose_Freedom on September 9, 2010 at 1:45 PM

WAAAAAAAHHHHHHHhhhh!!!!

All their “Go along to get along, drinks together with the Dems after robbing the electorate” style of legislating has gotten us is overtaxed, overregulated, overpoliced, and in massive debt.

quikstrike98 on September 9, 2010 at 1:45 PM

I’ll take 100 Jim DeMints in the Senate and 435 John Boehners in the House, please.

What we need is a veto-proof majority in both houses, all people who will make it their full-time job to not only reverse Osama Obama’s economy-killing domestic initiatives, but end the White House’s kowtowing to terrorists and leftist dictators as well.

In fact, we need a Congress that will set to work impeaching the Traitor-in-Chief and rooting out the treasonous scum who make up his regime.

Sadly, I’m thinking the Repubs don’t have the guts to do any of that. It might make them unpopular in some quarters, and their sole goals in life seem to be keeping their cushy jobs and being loved….

MrScribbler on September 9, 2010 at 1:46 PM

David Brooks at this very moment must be crafting another moderate column for the NYT decrying the Barbarians at The Gate.

Drained Brain on September 9, 2010 at 1:47 PM

Indy8 is correct. Just look at McCain. The guy was the chief GOP mediawhore and got nominated, then destroyed by the same. Now…born-again conservative. At least nominally. The jury is still out.

Black Ice on September 9, 2010 at 1:48 PM

Now…born-again conservative. At least nominally. The jury is still out.

Black Ice on September 9, 2010 at 1:48 PM

If the jury is still out on McLame, everyone on it should undergo compulsory psych exams.

Dark-Star on September 9, 2010 at 1:50 PM

The Republican elites (moderates) better listen to the will of the American people, or they will be just out of touch with reality as Obama.

mobydutch on September 9, 2010 at 1:55 PM

xler8bmw on September 9, 2010 at 1:24 PM

;-)

sicoit on September 9, 2010 at 1:56 PM

Since 2007, Boehlert has remained active promoting environmental and scientific causes. He serves currently on the Board of the bipartisan Alliance for Climate Protection chaired by former Vice President Al Gore. Boehlert has served as a co-chair of the National Transportation Policy Project of the Bipartisan Policy Center.

This guy was known as the Green Hornet because of his climate science stance. Mr bi-partisan and a career politician.

Vince on September 9, 2010 at 1:57 PM

The only reason it looks like the ‘most conservative caucus since WW2′ is because we’ve been moving steadily hard left for that long. Screw these whiney old GOP farts. Go home and slurp some oatmeal and suck up your cushy taxpayer funded senate pension, jerks.

Monica on September 9, 2010 at 1:36 PM
Very well stated!!!!!!

mobydutch on September 9, 2010 at 1:57 PM

I think Sen. Murkowski’s behavior says much about establishment Washington. What in the world is so important about being a “public servant” that you would insult your constituency by ignoring their votes? Oh, silly me, ignoring votes and opinions of the great unwashed seem to be SOP lately.

Cindy Munford on September 9, 2010 at 1:58 PM

I think Sen. Murkowski’s behavior says much about establishment Washington. What in the world is so important about being a “public servant” that you would insult your constituency by ignoring their votes? Oh, silly me, ignoring votes and opinions of the great unwashed seem to be SOP lately.

Cindy Munford on September 9, 2010 at 1:58 PM
I like this one, too. This says it ALL!!!!!!

mobydutch on September 9, 2010 at 2:00 PM

McConnell needs to step aside and let Coburn run things.

Kevin71 on September 9, 2010 at 2:02 PM

MrScribbler – no, we don’t need a GOP dedicated to impeaching Obama.

We need a GOP committeed to rolling back the abuses of the last ten or fifteen years – most egregious under Obama, but Bush 43 doesn’t get a free ride either.

We need a GOP that will bring to heel this administration’s runaway bureaucracy that refuses to enforce the laws as written (DOJ, DHS) even while it attempts to conjure law out of thin air to suit its own political whims (EPA).

No Clinton-impeachment fishing expeditions, no Terri Schiavo imposition-of-morality exercises.

This administration has given the GOP a bounty of low-hanging fruit when it comes to when it comes to clearly unethical and possibly illegal abuses of power within the alphabet agencies, and the Darrell Issas of the incoming class need to focus their efforts there.

If it leads to the White House, fine, but tread carefully and don’t get out in front of public opinion on that one. Nothing will flip public opinion back to the Democrats faster than a lot of minimally-grounded witch hunts.

JEM on September 9, 2010 at 2:02 PM

Vince – yeah, Boehlert is exactly the kind that needs to be purged.

JEM on September 9, 2010 at 2:04 PM

The Leadership is worried because it has always been easy to stab the couple of conservative members in the back by ‘reaching across the aisle’.

Now they are worried that when they ‘reach across the aisle’ they will have a target on their backs.

When the backstabbers become the target the Leadership whines, which makes you wonder which party they are ‘leading’.

ajacksonian on September 9, 2010 at 2:11 PM

These morons got their idea of what the Tea Parties were about from the old media, who were too lazy and too entrenched in the leftist agenda to report correctly.
Simply wanting the Congress to actually represent the people is hardly crazy nor is it radical in any sense. Somewhere along the way, politicians ceased to “represent” and started to “rule,” or at least think they did. The most basic principle of the “Tea Party Movement” is to put them back in their place by electing “representatives,” not self-described “ruling elites.” This election will be the first widespread lesson (of many) that will re-educate politicians and their dummies in the press about how government in this country is supposed to operate.

n0doz on September 9, 2010 at 2:14 PM

I don’t want either party to have majorities at all.
This left & right BS has done nothing but force people to pick a side when they vote-The Hold The Nose Vote.
I am sick & tired of parties.
Wasn’t it Washington that said political parties were poison? Can’t remember-but the founder had it right who said it.
And how about when we vote for POTUS, the guy who gets 2nd place becomes the VP? Like how Adams got VP.
We’ve got a real problem & the political party partisan crap is the problem.
You nitwits in Congress are here to SERVE us & uphold the oath of your office.
If it takes Tea Party people to do it, I’ll take it.

Badger40 on September 9, 2010 at 2:19 PM

not the change the old guard was hoping for either.

pgrossjr on September 9, 2010 at 2:35 PM

Aw geeze, you mean they are part of the Democrat socialists as well? Who knew they would be just happy with their new found power to run people’s lives.

You know, Barone brought up the subject yesterday, of the last time a displacement this large was happening, it was the Kansas-Nebraska Act of 1854. Where the Democrats legalized slavery. Yep, they really did that, read history. Anyway, the results was the Whigs, that would be Democrat lites, split in two, forming the Republican party and what was left of the Whigs.

Of course the misread was America wanted slavery for all, but the backlash was severe. In 1860 Abe Lincoln was elected, States started succeeding and the Civil War was on.

This time, the future for the Current Whigs is uncertain, and the country is murky — But America does not want socialism.

Standby….

tarpon on September 9, 2010 at 3:12 PM

And when these new people are sworn in to their new jobs, I hope the Tea Party and others will keep on them to do the jobs they were elected to do. You know, stop the spending, lower taxes, repeal 0bamaCare, less regulations, etc.

Mirimichi on September 9, 2010 at 3:17 PM

and when Obama vetoes everything, the public will finally see who the true obstructionist is.

John the Libertarian on September 9, 2010 at 1:08 PM

Excellent point.

Mirimichi on September 9, 2010 at 3:20 PM

…then Republicans will get shown the door almost as quickly as Democrats did.

And who will take their place?

joshlbetts on September 9, 2010 at 3:27 PM

The Senate is supposed to be a deliberative chamber. Changing of the old guard, too comfortable in its deal-making comity and phony-baloney bipartisanship, does nothing to assure a chamber of statesmen. The runaway Congress needs to slow down and choose wisely on behalf of the American people.

I want more Jim DeMints, and I have been more than happy to contribute to his Senate Conservatives Fund. He has an abiding respect for the Constitution, a servant’s heart, and a fiscal common sense.

onlineanalyst on September 9, 2010 at 3:36 PM

RINO Hunt –2010 to open the door for Reagan II–2012!

chickasaw42 on September 9, 2010 at 3:50 PM

Some express fear that what they perceive as the candidates’ “radical” views will prove a political liability for the Republican Party.

Yeah, better to stick with pros like Lindsay Graham and John McCain. Barf.

Django on September 9, 2010 at 4:22 PM

Poor, poor Harry Reid, the well of the senate will smell just like the visiting citizens.

Akzed on September 9, 2010 at 1:13 PM

:^) Good one!

The unwashed are somehow pushing themselves into power. The horror! It’s an outrage!

Django on September 9, 2010 at 4:30 PM

RINO Hunt –2010 to open the door for Reagan II–2012!

chickasaw42 on September 9, 2010 at 3:50 PM

Stop aiming low. We can do better than Reagan.

Slowburn on September 9, 2010 at 4:41 PM

They fear the loss of control over their cushy jobs. “How dare the populace speak up as if they have the right to run the nation -what do the peasants know about the skills needed to ruin..(ooops) run the country? It’s time for our gang of 14 to arise and take back their power. (Not yet McCain, at least wait unti after the election to stop pretending)”

Don L on September 9, 2010 at 5:05 PM

Please try try to go to DC on Sun to let them see your faces.

congma on September 9, 2010 at 5:29 PM

Senate Republican establishment not exactly looking forward to Tea Party majority?

Tough shit.

manofaiki on September 9, 2010 at 5:47 PM

It really is time to change the way Washington works, stop the inside baseball crap and work for the people and support the Constitution.

tim c on September 9, 2010 at 6:04 PM

I lived in Boehlert’s district during the Reagan administration years. I would check the roll call votes posted in the paper regularly. I don’t ever recall seeing Boehlert voting with the Republicans. Good riddance.

quikstrike98 on September 9, 2010 at 6:31 PM

When our screams of decent fell on the deaf ears of the politicians that was the real start of the TEA party. When the RINO’s voted with the dems that made me want to join the Tea party. Many republicans in office still don’t get it do they Mr. McCain.

mixplix on September 9, 2010 at 8:45 PM

McConnell, et al, is worried that reading a piece of legislation BEFORE voting on it becomes the norm. That, and maybe being forced to stay in session in order to fight off another socialist power grab instead of taking a scheduled holiday break…His wife has more testosterone…

Gohawgs on September 9, 2010 at 9:11 PM

In this election cycle, voters have had to ask themselves on several occasions whether they want a Senate with 30 Jim DeMints or 51 Republicans of varied approaches that can get things accomplished.

What an assinine statement…

Gohawgs on September 9, 2010 at 9:14 PM

we don’t need a GOP dedicated to impeaching Obama.

We need a GOP committeed to rolling back the abuses of the last ten or fifteen years – most egregious under Obama, but Bush 43 doesn’t get a free ride either.

We need a GOP that will bring to heel this administration’s runaway bureaucracy that refuses to enforce the laws as written (DOJ, DHS) even while it attempts to conjure law out of thin air to suit its own political whims (EPA).

No Clinton-impeachment fishing expeditions, no Terri Schiavo imposition-of-morality exercises.

This administration has given the GOP a bounty of low-hanging fruit when it comes to when it comes to clearly unethical and possibly illegal abuses of power within the alphabet agencies, and the Darrell Issas of the incoming class need to focus their efforts there.

If it leads to the White House, fine, but tread carefully and don’t get out in front of public opinion on that one. Nothing will flip public opinion back to the Democrats faster than a lot of minimally-grounded witch hunts.

JEM on September 9, 2010 at 2:02 PM

Right, first things first. Stop the socialist’s agenda from going forward and defund what can be defunded…

Gohawgs on September 9, 2010 at 9:28 PM

If they fail to realize that and refuse to make significant cuts in spending and in the size of government, then Republicans will get shown the door almost as quickly as Democrats did.

Absolutely correct.

I have heard “Tea Party” people called disaffected voters. That is absolutely wrong, as they (we) are AFFECTED voters who will that spirit of the Constitution is respected, regardless of party affiliation.

Politicians of all stripes best see that “business as usual” is no longer to be tolerated…

magicky on September 10, 2010 at 2:13 AM

Look at how they sent a team of lawyers up here to Alaska trying to find a way to make Lisa the winner instead of the peoples choice. No. They doan like the Constitutionalist trend that they see. They like their place in the scheme of things and the gravy that flows their way.
They bend with the breeze never mind the wind. No more reeds.
In the end though the establishment saw the light and have thrown their support behind Joe Miller. They are wise enough not to get on the wrong side of the Tea Party as the Tea Party is US! The little guy, the Joes and Janes of the US that have freakin’ had it… The Conservative Movement is embodied in the Tea Party and the Republican Party better stay wise to that fact or face extinction.

Army Brat on September 10, 2010 at 4:35 AM

We’ll get the rest of those stinkin’ rinos next time. We’ve been to the edge of the cliff and don’t like the view.

Kissmygrits on September 10, 2010 at 8:28 AM