Obama to Koran-burning pastor: Think of the troops
posted at 4:12 pm on September 9, 2010 by Allahpundit
A partial list of people who’ve weighed in thus far on Terry Jones’s publicity stunt turned mega-clusterfark: The U.S. Secretary of State, the top U.S. commander in Afghanistan, the presidents of Afghanistan and Indonesia, the prime minister of Iraq, the home minister of India, the Pakistani ambassador to the U.S., the FBI, Interpol, the Vatican — and now, inevitably, the president of the United States. What this is, basically, is a global hostage situation, and while Obama (and Petraeus, and Romney) is making a shrewd rhetorical move by framing this as a plea to protect the troops, the danger obviously goes far beyond that. You’re not seeing Indian ministers opine here because they care about U.S. soldiers, and needless to say, if there’s anyone in the world who’s capable of handling himself against a threat, it’s an American G.I. with a M-16. The real worry is that unarmed civilians are going to die somewhere — in Afghanistan or Europe or Indonesia or Africa or, heaven forbid, here at home — because there are now enough Muslim fundamentalists spread around the world that realistically no one is safe. The “do it for the troops” gambit is essentially just a clever smokescreen aimed at appealing to Jones’s sense of patriotism. And it might work: He told USA Today earlier that a direct request from Obama to stand down would “cause us definitely to think it over.” Well, here’s the official request, which might be followed by a phone call from The One himself to Jones. (How’s that for creating a perverse PR incentive?) Frankly, at this point, Jones might as well drop the idea and declare “victory.” If he’s trying to make a point about “the dangers of radical Islam,” he can just point to the list of hand-wringing statesmen above and declare that the point has already been made. No need to actually strike a match.
I’m not going to rehash my objection to criticizing free speech on grounds that it poses a risk to soldiers, so let me make a few other points instead. First, to Robert Gibbs: No, burning the Koran doesn’t go against “every one of our values.” Book-burning is a repulsive means of protest but it’s as much a First Amendment matter as flag-burning is. Breathe into a paper bag, Gibbsy. Second, to Obama (and Petraeus and Romney): No, burning the Koran does not “endanger our young men and women in uniform who are in Iraq, who are in Afghanistan.” The reaction to burning the Koran is what endangers our men and women in uniform (and everyone else). This is a crucial point, worth always bearing in mind when speech is met with violence. When you blame a speaker for the violent response to his speech, you absolve the violent actor of the moral choice he made in deciding to act. If you think it’s Jones, rather than some Taliban suicide bomber, who’s a mortal threat to the troops, then presumably you also think Theo Van Gogh got what was coming to him. After all, he knew the risk when he made “Submission,” right?
Third, as tempting as it is to blame the media for giving this crank a megaphone, I’m uncomfortable with doing so. Make no mistake, their behavior’s been typically loathsome. Clearly, they pursued this story in the wake of the Ground Zero mosque kerfuffle in order to buttress their pre-midterm “Islamophobia” narrative — but something went wrong on the way to page one. By calling attention to it, they brought it to the attention of fundies, and now suddenly the worldwide fretting about imminent violence makes the “Islamophobes” look a bit less crazy than before. So now, as Tom Maguire says, they’re trying to climb off the tiger: The AP announced today that it won’t distribute photos or audio of the Koran-burning (if it happens) while Fox News insists that it won’t cover the event at all. This is their way, however belatedly, of denying jihadis easy propaganda from the event. So why, given all that, is it wrong to blame the media? Well, for one thing, doing so would make the same mistake about moral choices that I warned of above. If Jake Tapper covers the Koran-burning and some jihadi filthbag sees the footage and blows someone’s head off in Islamabad, it ain’t Jake Tapper who pulled the trigger. Filthbags have moral agency just like everyone else. The deeper reason, though, is that blaming the media can only encourage them to censor themselves in the future for fear of offending Muslims. American newspapers have already largely suppressed the Mohammed cartoons, and Comedy Central has taken to bleeping Mohammed’s name on “South Park.” And now, already, we have Fox out-and-out refusing to cover news events lest some excitable fundie crank go berserk. Where do we draw that line?
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First amendment is the second amendment to be torn to shreds by the most transparent admin evah!
ConcealedKerry on May 21, 2013 at 9:24 PM
Oh and First!
ConcealedKerry on May 21, 2013 at 9:25 PM
I hope Rush Limbaugh has beefed up his security and perimeter around the Southern command. Barack just loves to mention him by name.
SouthernGent on May 21, 2013 at 9:28 PM
This is NOT a pattern. It’s mere happenstance./
Liam on May 21, 2013 at 9:29 PM
Yes the IRS should be in charge of Obamacare and the Rats and Rinos should legalize some more illegals since a couple of Visa over stayers bombed Boston and this administration has been fast and furiously releasing criminal aliens!
ConcealedKerry on May 21, 2013 at 9:29 PM
Valerie Jarrett is Keyser Soze. Payback.
can_con on May 21, 2013 at 9:31 PM
This is so creepy.
This is also why you get pre-paid cell phones.
gophergirl on May 21, 2013 at 9:33 PM
Scared yet?
petefrt on May 21, 2013 at 9:36 PM
Does it bother anyone that this administration has reserved for itself the right to determine in which instances they may drone kill US citizens without trial?
ConcealedKerry on May 21, 2013 at 9:36 PM
Love how KP just has to throw in the BUsh horse#hit…
You go girl.
BigWyo on May 21, 2013 at 9:36 PM
Thank u bret baier, one of very few in media i trust.
hillsoftx on May 21, 2013 at 9:38 PM
Evening!!!
Creepy is the right word gg. I read a lot of political/espionage/murder novels. This fits right in.
CoffeeLover on May 21, 2013 at 9:38 PM
I was thinking the same thing. This would make one heck of a book.
gophergirl on May 21, 2013 at 9:41 PM
lol GG except sadly it is real life and I can’t believe anyone wishing to work with the U.S. is going to do it anytime soon. Dangerous.
And, you can be sure that Kathryn Bigelow isn’t going to make a movie about this anytime soon.
CoffeeLover on May 21, 2013 at 9:45 PM
“Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. The third time it’s enemy action.”
Seven Percent Solution on May 21, 2013 at 9:46 PM
LOL
BoxHead1 on May 21, 2013 at 9:48 PM
Exactly the way I call it.
Liam on May 21, 2013 at 9:48 PM
How many times have we seen this movie? And we’re still shocked at how it always unfolds?
When you’re the smartest guy in the room, and you’re so dead certain that your vision is the only one any decent person could possibly have, there is no limit to what you can justify doing. Or more to the point, no limit to what you WILL justify doing.
And with the adoring masses cheering you on, there is no level of depravity you won’t go beyond, all the while piously telling yourself that it’a all for “the greater good”!
Lew on May 21, 2013 at 9:49 PM
At least we seem to finally have bipartisan outrage about this intrusion. This president and his administration are incorrigible. And they could care less. Dying to know what the West Wing pow wow with the lefty bloggers was about. Oh to be a fly on the wall.
scalleywag on May 21, 2013 at 9:50 PM
Never trust a liberal.
Liam on May 21, 2013 at 9:54 PM
And some of you just thought he was giving a speech…
It’s ‘paradise’ isn’t it…”
Seven Percent Solution on May 21, 2013 at 9:56 PM
MeanWhile……….
IRS flagged conservative political groups Ex-Cincinnati IRS official doubts agency’s explanation for Tea Party scandal – @NBCNews
Submitted 37 mins ago
from openchannel.nbcnews.com by editor
http://openchannel.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/05/21/18404474-ex-cincy-irs-official-doubts-agencys-explanation-for-tea-party-scandal?lite
canopfor on May 21, 2013 at 9:56 PM
Luther Stickell: Reach your folks?
[Ethan nods]
Luther Stickell: How do they feel?
Ethan Hunt: About what?
Luther Stickell: The apology from the Justice Department, VIP treatment. You know, the whole nine yards.
Ethan Hunt: Well, my mom was a little confused how the DEA could mistake her and Uncle Donald for a couple of dope smugglers in the Florida Keys.
Ben Hur on May 21, 2013 at 9:57 PM
So,I ponder,
who’s next on the Scruteneers Scrutenizers List,
Conservative Blogs
RightSphere Watch Groups
Consevative/Libertarian Bloggers
There Families,and all associates,
their E-Mails and Twitters!!
canopfor on May 21, 2013 at 10:01 PM
So, between all of this nonsense and now the visibility that our Senate is proceeding at high rates of speed to get amnesty passed…
SMOD, please land on Washington DC.
Absent that… well, apparently this is going to have to get really ugly before there’s hope of it getting any better.
Midas on May 21, 2013 at 10:01 PM
Just watch the Ezra Klein pieces for the next week or two – you’ll know exactly what it was about.
Midas on May 21, 2013 at 10:03 PM
It’s ‘paradise’ isn’t it…”
THE PRESIDENT: Thank you. (Applause.) Thank you, everybody. (Laughter.) How do you like my new entrance music? (Applause.) Rush Limbaugh warned you about this — second term, baby. (Laughter and applause.) We’re changing things around here a little bit. (Laughter.)
Seven Percent Solution on May 21, 2013 at 9:56 PM
Seven Percent Solution:Good catch 7%,
and ya,a Utopian NeverLand,and maybe,FLOTUS could arrange for
another trip tp Spain!:)
canopfor on May 21, 2013 at 10:06 PM
Talk about shooting yourself in the foot! How dumb do you have to be to go after the media…and lose one of the biggest things that prop you up daily?
dont taze me bro on May 21, 2013 at 10:07 PM
“PROTECT US AT ALL COST!”
Seven Percent Solution on May 21, 2013 at 10:07 PM
tom daschle concerned on May 21, 2013 at 10:07 PM
The classic tale of how one’s extreme arrogance leads to their eventual downfall. Sometimes it’s swift, sometimes it’s gradual, but it’s always a certainty. And it always involves those who believe firmly in their heart that they will defy the odds.
From the days of Ancient Greece, the fate is always the same,
Myron Falwell on May 21, 2013 at 10:07 PM
Nice parents you have there, children too.
VorDaj on May 21, 2013 at 10:08 PM
Lol. Bret is definitely not part of the “media”. He is a partisan hack pretending to be independent. I am yet to see him allow anyone in support of Obama complete a sentence.
HotAirLib on May 21, 2013 at 10:11 PM
Not this trip…
… Maybe next time.
Seven Percent Solution on May 21, 2013 at 10:11 PM
IRS = Political hacks.
Fire them all.
Zorro on May 21, 2013 at 10:12 PM
Let’s just remember what a nice speech Obama gave at Morehead, so everything is good.
VorDaj on May 21, 2013 at 10:12 PM
Ooops DOJ=Political hacks (IRS too)
Zorro on May 21, 2013 at 10:12 PM
This needs to be nominated for Derpiest HotGas Comment of the Year.
Myron Falwell on May 21, 2013 at 10:14 PM
*points politely at the “DONT FEED THE TROLLS” sign*
Midas on May 21, 2013 at 10:16 PM
Agreed…
… But in this case there is something different at play.
Obowma has infested and entrenched the Departments and Bureaucracies of this Nation with like minded individuals that believe his ideology…
Once in place, all they needed was the “OK to Go!”, and they got it…
… Now we are supposed to believe that Obowma wasn’t told of all these scandals to keep him safe?
No, the bigger picture is not Obowma himself…
… but the entirety of the political Left and the Democrat Party as a whole.
That needs to be what the next election is about, and rooting out the ideology that would destroy this Country…
Seven Percent Solution on May 21, 2013 at 10:25 PM
For two years, I have told anyone willing to listen, there are four adjectives that sum up this administration:
Reckless
Feckless
Lawless
Preposterous
We are not treated as “citizens,” but like the “subjects” of a king.
I thought we had this worked out in 1776.
KCsecurity1976 on May 21, 2013 at 10:31 PM
It’s been a long day, but I don’t see any reference to Bush.
Basilsbest on May 21, 2013 at 10:36 PM
Perhaps wrapped up with a bow on it or perhaps not….but the bottom line Obama response is going to be the same one he always uses….A sneer a raised middle finger and “what are ya’gonna do about it punks?”…So far it’s worked just fine.
bluesdoc70 on May 21, 2013 at 10:40 PM
Good thing Mark Levin’s bunker is undisclosed!
shar61 on May 21, 2013 at 10:59 PM
Still, their downfall is inevitable. It’s rooted in who we are. Imperfect souls who think we can be bigger than God, and subsequently get theirs in the end.
Obama is the epicenter by his own volition. His ego and perceived invincibility made it so. But the Dems have had their fate of destruction cast long ago when they declared war on all political opponents in a quest for total power.
What conservatives need to do is present a compelling reason why people should vote for them. Winning by attrition won’t work, as evidenced by the GOPe in 2010 when they were handed the House and did nothing with it (which is why faith needs to be put on the candidates, not on the failed party).
Myron Falwell on May 21, 2013 at 11:26 PM
Drunk with power.
rightmind on May 21, 2013 at 11:27 PM
J’ve never heard anyone defending barky speak in complete sentences.
Some even plead the 5th, HAL.
wolly4321 on May 21, 2013 at 11:28 PM
‘Cuz some jokes never get old.
bigmacdaddy on May 22, 2013 at 12:33 AM
The United States of Venezuela.
Sherman1864 on May 22, 2013 at 1:07 AM
Why are people shocked by this? Obama has been allowed to break the laws time and again and thumb his nose at us afterwards everytime.
He has done it again. Sarah Hall Ingram served as commissioner of the office responsible for tax-exempt organizations between 2009 and 2012, she is the very person most likely to have been Obama’s attack dog against the conservative organization.
But did Obama fire her… Oh he11 no, instead Ingram has been placed in charge of ObamaCare. Obama just laughs and thumbs his nose at us.
Axion on May 22, 2013 at 1:31 AM
Wonder what the AP thinks of this–have they bothered to comment?
stukinIL4now on May 22, 2013 at 6:07 AM
This is so creepy.
This is also why you get pre-paid cell phones.
gophergirl on May 21, 2013 at 9:33 PM
Its chilling. My Dad was a Tea Party organizer and his group leaders complained a long time ago about not getting a tax exempt status for their organization. When I think that my Dads friends and possibly even my Dad rated a closer look by the government just makes me scratch my head. These guys are the salt of the Earth and they’re being looked at as criminals by the Obama people.
smoothsailing on May 22, 2013 at 7:08 AM
Battered spouse Media.
They’ll always love him………
PappyD61 on May 22, 2013 at 7:14 AM
nEWS MEDIA and their parents?! Oh, it is SO time to send someone to JAIL! This administration is so out of control it is scary!
Meanhile I wounder if they found out who in the upper level administration leaked that it was Israel who attacked Syria a week or so ago, for which the Obama administration apologized for (which makes it all better when they do something wrong, right?).
easyt65 on May 22, 2013 at 8:12 AM
That’s a serious leak, and I’d like to see a Congressional hearing on that one too. It’s much like the leak a year or two ago about Israel getting permission from Azerbaijan to refuel their planes on a possible attack on Iran.
slickwillie2001 on May 22, 2013 at 8:31 AM