Democrats oddly unenthused by Porkulus II

posted at 10:12 am on September 9, 2010 by Ed Morrissey

After taking a pounding from constituents over the failed economic policies of the last two years, Democrats on the campaign trail pushed the White House to deliver some kind of new direction on jobs in time for the midterm elections.  So far, Barack Obama’s hair-of-the-dog proposal to build even more roads and bridges hasn’t exactly boosted their fortunes.  The Washington Post reports that the only people pleased by Obama’s new $50 billion stimulus proposal and limited tax credit plan seem to be White House aides and Republican candidates:

Facing a rising jobless rate and the possibility of a GOP blowout in the November midterm elections, President Obama sought Wednesday to convince voters that he is charting a new path to revive the American economy.

But Obama’s proposal for $180 billion in fresh infrastructure spending and business tax breaks is not satisfying many of the groups he needs on his side – not lawmakers on Capital Hill who are leery of raising the deficit by spending more, not economists who say the plan is too modest to create many jobs, and not business groups that say the tax benefits come with too many strings attached.

Even some vulnerable Democrats – who have been begging the White House for a jobs strategy to present to recession-battered voters – quickly condemned the president’s latest proposal, suggesting that it bears an uncomfortable resemblance to last year’s unpopular stimulus package.

That’s the problem.  Obama isn’t “charting a new path” at all.  He’s accelerating down the one road he recognizes, a command-economy philosophy that has utterly failed already.  That’s more than just an “uncomfortable resemblance,” it’s doubling down on the discredited Porkulus from last year.

How badly has it played?  The White House staged an intervention in Colorado to rescue Senator Michael Bennet from a primary challenge that nearly unseated him before Bennet had a chance to face Republican Ken Buck in the general election.  Guess who was one of the first people to oppose Obama’s new package?

“I will not support additional spending in a second stimulus package,” said Sen. Michael Bennet (D-Colo.), a close White House ally in a tough race against Republican Ken Buck, who has campaigned against government spending.

Bennet asked the same question as many others: why are we talking about more spending and borrowing when Obama hasn’t yet finished spending the Porkulus funds he got last year?  After all, we’re already paying interest on that balance.  Why add more to it?

Obama argued that the tax breaks outlined in his proposal should get Republican backing, but only until Republicans hear how Obama intends to pay for them.  He has resurrected a plan to rescind the tax credits that American businesses get for taxes paid on foreign income.  That idea got tossed aside last year after Obama tried to impose it while he had a lot more political capital than he does now.  The change would essentially penalize American companies for their foreign sales and provide a powerful incentive to relocate the businesses overseas when possible. Otherwise, it would make American companies less competitive in relation to foreign players in their industries by forcing price increases on their products.  That is why the CEOs of Intel, Caterpillar, and Cisco personally went to Washington to argue against it the first time Obama proposed it.

Instead of paying for the tax credits with more tax hikes, why not just cut spending?  That’s what voters want — the elimination of the trillion-plus dollars Democrats added to the annual budget over the last three-plus years, not new ways of raising taxes to spend even more.


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The last “stimulus” (har har) Bill was written by Pelosi’s minions.

Who is going to write this one?

I’m sure our illustrious press will get this out of the Obama Administration by the 11th of Never-ber.

NoDonkey on September 9, 2010 at 10:15 AM

Probably because it’s a setup for the Dems in the most trouble to vote against it to show them ‘standing up against the President and for fiscal responsibility’. Kabuki theater, in other words.

michaelo on September 9, 2010 at 10:16 AM

Porkulo-nimbus!!!!!!!

blatantblue on September 9, 2010 at 10:22 AM

why are we talking about more spending and borrowing when Obama hasn’t yet finished spending the Porkulus funds he got last year?

Because it gives Democrats the chance to pretend they’re fiscally responsible by rejecting an obviously bad proposal?

Is this a real proposal or an election strategy?

Caiwyn on September 9, 2010 at 10:22 AM

He’s accelerating down the one road he recognizes, a command-economy philosophy that has utterly failed already.

chickens….hardest hit.

ted c on September 9, 2010 at 10:22 AM

Even the dems in DC no longer believe the lies.

Vashta.Nerada on September 9, 2010 at 10:24 AM

Nobody is enthused about the frequent vacationer any longer. They had to truck in houseplants from the local community college to sit and suck wind at yesterdays finger pointing session and teleprompter reading.

http://www.cleveland.com/open/index.ssf/2010/09/tri-c_students_recruited_to_fi.html

ted c on September 9, 2010 at 10:24 AM

I’m calling it. This charade is over. The only thing we are waiting for is the two words to scroll across the screen…..”The End”…..

ted c on September 9, 2010 at 10:25 AM

Doubling down on stupid?

Heck, Even Castro recognizes that his system doesn’t work.

rbj on September 9, 2010 at 10:25 AM

Heck, Even Castro recognizes that his system doesn’t work.

rbj on September 9, 2010 at 10:25 AM

true, but it’s taken him what? 10 presidents to realize that?….

slow. learners.

BHO won’t utter anythign like that until….eh?…2060?

ted c on September 9, 2010 at 10:28 AM

but…but…the Great and POWERFUL Wizard of Ahhhs has spoken! Why aren’t people bowing and obeying???

Justrand on September 9, 2010 at 10:28 AM

Good luck blaming the failure of Porkulus II(or are we up to III or IV by now) on GOP obstruction, Barry.

Doughboy on September 9, 2010 at 10:29 AM

Castro is now to the RIGHT of our President.

Does that mean Michael Moore won’t be performing “favors” for Fidel any more??

Justrand on September 9, 2010 at 10:29 AM

Is that b@stard trying to do Jedi Mind Tricks in the photo?

Ain’t gonna work, homey…..

pseudonominus on September 9, 2010 at 10:31 AM

Because it gives Democrats the chance to pretend they’re fiscally responsible by rejecting an obviously bad proposal?

Is this a real proposal or an election strategy?

Caiwyn on September 9, 2010 at 10:22 AM

I doubt that. You really think Obama would take one for the team and make himself look that impotent? His ego wouldn’t allow that.

Joe Caps on September 9, 2010 at 10:31 AM

Instead of paying for the tax credits with more tax hikes, why not just cut spending?

Because Obama and the Democrats never met a tax hike or a spending plan that they didn’t like.

This “blank check” mentality Obama embraces must come to an end. Enough is enough!

Rovin on September 9, 2010 at 10:32 AM

Even the dems in DC no longer believe the lies.

Vashta.Nerada on September 9, 2010 at 10:24 AM

They never did believe it, but they wanted it as long as it didn’t cost them votes. Now that it does, well…

Extrafishy on September 9, 2010 at 10:33 AM

When your only tool is a hammer all your problems look like nails.

Spending other people’s money IS the only thing Obama can think of to do. He believes the rich will always be with us and the job of government is to figure out new and better ways to get more money from them. In his mind Tax and Spend is not just a good idea it’s his only idea.

Fred 2 on September 9, 2010 at 10:38 AM

The Cuban Model doesn’t work… or hasn’t anyone told BHO yet?

mankai on September 9, 2010 at 10:39 AM

I vote political ploy.

A roads and infrastructure bill to produce jobs? Proposed in September, passage not until later, road season starting around April – over six months away?

Pure political theater.

P.S. is it true that there is more than $300 billion still unspent from Stimulus, the Prequel?

SouthernRoots on September 9, 2010 at 10:40 AM

the only people pleased by Obama’s new $50 billion stimulus proposal and limited tax credit plan seem to be White House aides and Republican candidates:

That’s hilarious.

The democrat candidates pointing out that they are against all this spending are only losing more votes, democrat votes, since everyone else has already concluded that these democrats have to go.

The only strategy that has the ghost of a chance is the continued demonetization of greedy, fat cat capitalist republicans since that is the only strategy that will bring out the democrat vote.

Skandia Recluse on September 9, 2010 at 10:41 AM

Spend spend spend

gotta give it to these idiots… when the car is flying off the cliff……. trying to steer and hit’n the breaks does no good…… but throwing cash out the windows on the way down….now that’s a new one.

roflmao

donabernathy on September 9, 2010 at 10:44 AM

HAH
spell check for the win!
frigg’n glasses.
and it still works.

Skandia Recluse on September 9, 2010 at 10:44 AM

my congresscritter, /dem Tom Perriello, said he didn’t like Geithner so he is trying to shuck & jive around his horrible voting record to include: stimulus, Cap ‘n trade & Bambicare (& the GIVE act which spends billions of our tax dollars on organizing students).

so this STimulus II will give him something else to denounce.

just ask them this question: did they vote for Pelosi? sure, it is a 30 second sound bite Q&A, but the public will react to it.

kelley in virginia on September 9, 2010 at 10:46 AM

SO THIS IS PLAN B

may I quote Howard Dean

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEHAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

roflmao

donabernathy on September 9, 2010 at 10:47 AM

“Let me be clear. I don’t care if I make Democrats unelectable forever. I will soon declare myself “Dictator” henceforth no need for anymore elections. Who’s with me? And don’t talk about me like a dog.”

Screw this nit wit. I’m going to lunch now. First time to give “5 Guys” burgers a try. Never had them. Everyone keeps raving…

adamsmith on September 9, 2010 at 10:47 AM

but…but…the Great and POWERFUL Wizard of Ahhhs has spoken! Why aren’t people bowing and obeying???

Justrand on September 9, 2010 at 10:28 AM

Far F*u*king out man!!!

BruceB on September 9, 2010 at 10:49 AM

but…but…the Great and POWERFUL Wizard of Ahhhs has spoken! Why aren’t people bowing and obeying???

Justrand on September 9, 2010 at 10:28 AM

we haven’t seen no unicorns or multicolored horses yet…..

ted c on September 9, 2010 at 10:50 AM

I like this approach… I’m have a little car engine trouble and I’m trying to convince my wife that the only solution is for her and for our friends to borrow $1,000,000 and send me on an “engine-studying” junket to Cleveland, Cairo, Honolulu, Madrid and Martha’s Vineyard.

That oughta solve the problem.

mankai on September 9, 2010 at 10:51 AM

First time to give “5 Guys” burgers a try. Never had them. Everyone keeps raving…

adamsmith on September 9, 2010 at 10:47 AM

dude! lucky you. jalapenos +++ shazam

ted c on September 9, 2010 at 10:51 AM

Plan A – Spend boatloads of borrowed money to prop up unions.

Plan B – Spend boatloads of borrowed money to prop up unions.

I wonder what Plan C will be…?

mankai on September 9, 2010 at 10:52 AM

Obama’s not stupid, but he’s crazy — for power, that is. How can he control the peasants if he doesn’t have massive government spending he can selectively distribute in order to control everything from Washington? Fixing the economy has very little value to him, and if his fellow Democrats loose control of Congress it’s OK with Big O as long as he keeps his hands on the reigns of massively increased power. Like Ram said, never waste a crisis, and that’s the philosophy Obama is following.

Socratease on September 9, 2010 at 10:55 AM

When your only tool is a hammer all your problems look like nails.

Fred 2 on September 9, 2010 at 10:38 AM

And don’t forget all that grain in front of you. A sickle would be a good tool for that.

Electrongod on September 9, 2010 at 10:56 AM

Clearly, we just have to threaten violence if they pass Porkulus 2, that should force them to retreat. It’s working for the GZM imam.

Monica on September 9, 2010 at 10:56 AM

I wonder what Plan C will be…?

mankai on September 9, 2010 at 10:52 AM

Nationwide, all union strike until Democrats regain super majorities in both houses of Congress?

BobMbx on September 9, 2010 at 10:57 AM

Isn’t this the same stampede of morons who trampled each other trying to get close to Obama in 2008? Now it’s all a$$holes and elbows and a cloud of dust moving away from him like supernova ejecta.

Extrafishy on September 9, 2010 at 11:01 AM

Maybe the -24 on Ramsmussen today might have something to do with their reluctance.

:):):)

gophergirl on September 9, 2010 at 11:06 AM

The deeper in debt
The harder you bet, Hee! Hee! Hee! Hee!
Need more room to play! Look at you fooling you!

The gospel according to Sly and the Family Stone, circa 1974. Appropriate, or what?

either orr on September 9, 2010 at 11:10 AM

Maybe the -24 on Ramsmussen today might have something to do with their reluctance.

:):):)

gophergirl on September 9, 2010 at 11:06 AM

And those polls were taken before his comments about the koran burning were released.

Monica on September 9, 2010 at 11:11 AM

Obama isn’t “charting a new path” at all. He’s accelerating down the one road he recognizes, a command-economy philosophy that has utterly failed already.

He has to do it. He can’t possibly believe his worldview is wrong–that would make himwrong and his ego can’t conceive of him being wrong on anything. It’s all about him and he doesn’t care what it does to his party, because in his mind, he is the only thing that matters.

Beaglemom on September 9, 2010 at 11:14 AM

Burp, had too much already.

tarpon on September 9, 2010 at 11:14 AM

To put it quite simply, Barry doesn’t have any other way to handle the economy. For a true socialist there is no other way.

GarandFan on September 9, 2010 at 11:17 AM

First of all, this is an admission that the first stim didn’t work and now we’re going to try it again. This community organizer is an experiment gone horribly wrong!

rjoco1 on September 9, 2010 at 11:18 AM

Obama argued that the tax breaks outlined in his proposal should get Republican backing, but only until Republicans hear how Obama intends to pay for them. He has resurrected a plan to rescind the tax credits that American businesses get for taxes paid on foreign income. That idea got tossed aside last year after Obama tried to impose it while he had a lot more political capital than he does now. The change would essentially penalize American companies for their foreign sales and provide a powerful incentive to relocate the businesses overseas when possible. Otherwise, it would make American companies less competitive in relation to foreign players in their industries by forcing price increases on their products. That is why the CEOs of Intel, Caterpillar, and Cisco personally went to Washington to argue against it the first time Obama proposed it.

A man who would propose this–particularly in this economic climate–does so out of either ignorance or malice.

flyfisher on September 9, 2010 at 11:21 AM

Thank goodness that crazy Palin woman didn’t get elected.

faraway on September 9, 2010 at 11:23 AM

Are average dems starting to get the picture about Capt KA? Nahhh, they can see Nov 2nd from here.

Kissmygrits on September 9, 2010 at 11:30 AM

…but only until Republicans hear how Obama intends to pay for them.

Instead of paying for the tax credits with more tax hikes,…

I’m troubled by these references to “paying for tax cuts/breaks/credits.” If the government has to be compensated for its “loss” of revenue, that implies that the government has first claim on the money, not the people or entities that actually earned it. Allowing the private sector to retain more of the wealth it created should never be considered something that has to be “paid for.” Is this really a mindset we want to encourage?

Skull on September 9, 2010 at 11:32 AM

In a comparative sense, this is the same as saying you have to have another nickel after already spending 75 cents with another quarter still in your pocket.

J_Crater on September 9, 2010 at 11:32 AM

Kabuki theater, in other words.

michaelo on September 9, 2010 at 10:16 AM

Not in other words – exactly in those words.

Rebar on September 9, 2010 at 11:36 AM

This guy really needs to read some press releases or at least try and remember a few things that happen in between vacations. Does he really think the argument that republicans offer no plans, or the lame blame Bush arguments are still working when a sizeable chunk of the currently unemployed had good jobs during the “failed Bush years”?

Koa on September 9, 2010 at 11:42 AM

either orr on September 9, 2010 at 11:10 AM

And The Temptations from 1970

Vote for me, and I’ll set you free
Rap on brother, rap on…

Kids growin’ up too soon
Politicians say more taxes will
Solve everything
And the band played on
So round ‘n’ round ‘n’ round we go
Where the world’s headed, nobody knows
Just a Ball of Confusion
Oh yea, that’s what the wold is today

Fear in the air, tension everywhere
Unemployment rising fast…

mankai on September 9, 2010 at 11:43 AM

He has resurrected a plan to rescind the tax credits that American businesses get for taxes paid on foreign income. That idea got tossed aside last year after Obama tried to impose it while he had a lot more political capital than he does now. The change would essentially penalize American companies for their foreign sales and provide a powerful incentive to relocate the businesses overseas when possible. Otherwise, it would make American companies less competitive in relation to foreign players in their industries by forcing price increases on their products.

Just what a country in recession needs–penalize exports! What will he do next, reinstate Smoot-Hawley? It’s not bad enough to be Jimmuh Carter on steroids–now he wants to imitate Herbert Hoover?

Steve Z on September 9, 2010 at 11:47 AM

Maybe the -24 on Ramsmussen today might have something to do with their reluctance.

:):):)

gophergirl on September 9, 2010 at 11:06 AM

Ouch!!! Per Rasmussen, 63% of Indies disapprove of Obama, and Blue Dogs need their votes to get elected. Not surprising they might want to try something different.

Steve Z on September 9, 2010 at 11:53 AM

America to Obama Administration:

STOP THE SPENDING, YOU MORONS. YOU’RE KILLING THE ECONOMY.

Obama Administration:

I’ve heard you, and have determined that we will spend more. When you are driving into a ditch, you don’t just keep whirring the tires, right? That’s why America elected me – to stop whirring the tires of the last eight years. So we’re moving in a new direction, in which shovel-ready jobs, jobs jobs jobs and jobs jobs jobs jobs will be the key to recovery.

I’m proposing more spending, because that’s what creates jobs and drives demand.

Didn’t you folks ever take economics? Sheesh. They’re treating me like a dog up here.

Good Lt on September 9, 2010 at 11:54 AM

Porkulus II? I thought we were up to at least XLVII by now.

MassVictim on September 9, 2010 at 12:00 PM

Didn’t you folks ever take economics? Sheesh. They’re treating me like a dog up here.

Good Lt on September 9, 2010 at 11:54 AM

heh, Obama is like a dog… He just keeps eating from the trough until he throws up.

faraway on September 9, 2010 at 12:04 PM

The Dems need something to ball up and throw in the trash since they signed everything else he put in front of them. Its money that probably should have been spent long ago. Whats in it this time, string for the wooden bow company?

johnnyU on September 9, 2010 at 12:10 PM

Of course the money’s allocated will only go to “union” jobs–what could go wrong?

lovingmyUSA on September 9, 2010 at 12:27 PM

You’re on it, Mankai.

either orr on September 9, 2010 at 12:59 PM

Of course the money’s allocated will only go to “union” jobs–what could go wrong?

lovingmyUSA on September 9, 2010 at 12:27 PM

That’s what I thought…but of course there are no special interests with obama…

tinkerthinker on September 9, 2010 at 1:13 PM

Obama’s debt … $2.526 trillion

$2.526 trillion as a stack of $20 bills is roughly 8,500 miles high .. or about enough to cover the entire state of Massachusetts with $1 bills.

J_Crater on September 9, 2010 at 1:30 PM

Thank goodness that crazy Palin woman didn’t get elected.

faraway on September 9, 2010 at 11:23 AM

Obama might not (or maybe he does…) but he’s making the probability of her election all the more likely. Man, am I going to laugh and gloat that day while all my Lefty friends heads explode.

To have a Reagen we needed a Carter.
The pattern holds true here and she’ll be along to fight back the malaise brought to us by hope&change INC.

So come winter I can expect the smartest guy ever to tell us all to put on a sweater while he blasts the heat.

Sharr on September 9, 2010 at 2:27 PM

Careful here folks, democratics have wheeled out the ‘infrastructure’ word again. If you don’t vote for this, it means you mean Republicans are in favor of bridges falling down, no hospital for little Jose to be born in, and no shovels for fatcat greedy union workers to lean on; oops -forget that last one.

You get the idea.

slickwillie2001 on September 9, 2010 at 4:40 PM