Merkel honors Danish Mohammed cartoonist with freedom of the press award
posted at 9:40 pm on September 8, 2010 by Allahpundit
Via Reason’s Michael Moynihan, who notes the media buzz over this today and wonders, “Why does a limited defense of free speech by the leader of a Western democracy provoke such astonishment from the press corps?”
It’s a rhetorical question, of course. Anything rare is astonishing.
Presenting him with a press freedom award, Mrs Merkel said Mr Westergaard was entitled to draw his caricatures.
“Europe is a place where a cartoonist is allowed to draw something like this,” she said…
“We are talking here about the freedom of opinion and the freedom of the press,” Ms Merkel said at the ceremony in the German city of Potsdam…
Speaking at the award ceremony Ms Merkel also described as “abhorrent” a plan by US pastor Terry Jones to burn copies of the Koran on Saturday, the ninth anniversary of the 11 September terror attacks.
She said she found the idea disrespectful and “simply wrong”.
The chancellor of Germany obviously has special historical reason to forcefully denounce book-burning, so even if you disagree here, don’t be too hard on her. (If you want to criticize her for something, criticize her for this.) Besides, as Moynihan suggests, it’s almost impossible to imagine Westergaard or Lars Vilks or any other high-profile blasphemer being similarly honored at the White House. And not just because Obama’s in office, either: Revisit this excellent Hitchens piece written during the height of Mo-toon madness to see how the Bush administration handled the free speech issue at the time. I can understand their attitude to some extent, in the same way I understand Petraeus fretting about attacks on his men if the Koran-burning happens. Governments worry about the bottom line, so if they can save a few lives by denouncing someone’s exercise of free speech, why not do it? That’s the “hearts and minds” strategy in a nutshell: Any offense to Muslims makes things easier for jihadis, so obviously we should avoid any offense to Muslims. No wonder the press is astonished at Merkel’s behavior. In fact, here’s a little incitement from before the Westergaard ceremony happened today just to remind her, in case she needed reminding, of what the stakes are here:
Aiman Mazyek of the Central Council of Muslims in Germany said in a statement: “Merkel is honoring the cartoonist who in our view trampled on our Prophet and trampled on all Muslims.”
“By having her photo taken next to Kurt Westergaard, Merkel is taking a huge risk,” wrote the conservative daily Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung before the ceremony.
So she is. Which again, at the risk of repeating myself, is what makes the Koran-burning a more difficult issue than it appears at first blush. The FBI’s already warning of “retaliation,” possibly at the burning itself, if the event comes off; the free speech interest involved, as always, is now under tremendous pressure from the most violent, retrograde elements inside Islam. Would canceling the ceremony mean that the terrorists win? Or, as the “hearts and minds” crowd perpetually argues, would going through with it let the terrorists win by providing them with propaganda? No good answers.
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Will Beck, Mitt, and Palin call Merkel out? Actually, I don’t see how Merkel can be O.K. with the cartoons and not the book burning. Both are provocative.
a capella on September 9, 2010 at 12:40 AM
He is irresponsible with our service people over there in Mullah’s Hemorrhoid Afghanistan with his almost Code Pink ROE. He is getting more American troops killed than even McChyrstal did. He has been putting Afghan lives above American lives and the filthy koran above the United States Constitution, and it’s First Amendment, which he seems to have forgotten he too a sworn oath to. Hew is doing no good in Afghanistan and he is hurting America.
Luka on September 9, 2010 at 12:46 AM
I noted the first amendment implications in the part of my post you snipped.
Fighton03 on September 9, 2010 at 12:55 AM
Just think if we had Obama and Petraeus back during WWII, instead of FDR and Patton. Or more specifically if our leaders back then had acted like them. Just do an overlay in your mind. A mental exercise if you will. Fit all the pieces one on one. Koran – Mein Kampf; moderate muslims – moderate Nazis; Don’t insult Muslims – don’t insult Germans and Japanese; put Sharia in their constitution – put/keep Nazism/Shintoism in their constitution; etc, etc. Just try it. It’s a Mad House.
Luka on September 9, 2010 at 12:56 AM
Kudos to Merkel, and to the cartoonist and his publisher.
Since when has being Muslim meant being thin-skinned?
Ira on September 9, 2010 at 12:57 AM
Fair enough.
Luka on September 9, 2010 at 12:58 AM
Luca….I’m not going to argue too hard with you because I understand and agree with your point. Treat someone who declares themselves your enemy as..your enemy.
But remember how Patton was treated by IKE/Marshall/FDR when it came to Nazi bureaucrats or Bolsheviks.
Fighton03 on September 9, 2010 at 1:00 AM
If they are going to be at all consistent they have to, but I doubt they will. Muslims burn each others korans when Shia blow up Sunni Mosques and Sunns blow up Shia mosques, but they don’t dare draw pictures of Mo, so drawing pictures of Mo must be worse. They should call her out far more as the German head of state has far more weight than some backwater small Christian Church Pastor who has already been verbally gang lynched and beat to a pulp by the pile-on mob. After what they called him, they should use every foul word in the dictionary against her. English and German dictionaries, both. Obama could look up foul words in an Austrian dictionary to call her. Imam Petraeus might curse all manner of military pentagoness at her and then put her out of her misery with an air strike.
Luka on September 9, 2010 at 1:07 AM
Warning! Warning! Warning, Will Robinson!
Submit now or General Imam “Protector of the Holy Quran” Petraues may call in an air strike on you when he gets done with Israel, the backwater small Christian Church and Germany.
Luka on September 9, 2010 at 1:13 AM
Yes I remember. Things would have turned out far better if they had listen to him. He said that if the Russians were allowed, which they were, to take over Eastern Europe, we had lost the war.
Luka on September 9, 2010 at 1:18 AM
Re pictures of Mo, not really true that all muslims consider them offensive. Sunni muslims seem to, but in Shia Iran the street markets have a wide selection of sculptings and paintings of Mo freely available and on display. In Iran they might beat a woman if a lock of hair escapes her chador. It doesn’t have to make sense. I suggest it is a Shia thing, but maybe it’s just Iran. Naturally muslims are not about to explain this to us.
Perhaps it’s only infidels that are not allowed to look at pictures of Mo, or maybe they just look for reasons to riot.
slickwillie2001 on September 9, 2010 at 1:24 AM
I can’t remember ANY media outlet having a problem with Bible or flag burning. What’s up?
Mojave Mark on September 9, 2010 at 1:24 AM
In the 1920s the Muslims demanded that cartoonist David Low be punished for publishing a Mo Cartoon.
The newspaper and Low told them to sod off. The government supported Low. End of spontaneous rioting.
David Low
PattyJ on September 9, 2010 at 1:28 AM
nothing out of the ordinary, just the PC double standard….
Fighton03 on September 9, 2010 at 1:28 AM
just reminding you that politicians don’t change their stripes…and Petraeus is in Ike’s shoe’s not pattons.
Fighton03 on September 9, 2010 at 1:29 AM
Mojave Mark on September 9, 2010 at 1:24 AM
What’s William Ayers’ take on this?
Really Right on September 9, 2010 at 1:38 AM
I agree that he is not in Patton’s shoes. Patton would have knocked him out of them clear to next Sunday. As for Eisenhower shoes, I don’t recall Eisenhower saying to treat Mein Kampf with respect or anything like that. He was also against “preventive war”, not that I think that our being in Afghanistan is going to prevent anything at this point.
“Preventive war was an invention of Hitler. Frankly, I would not even listen to anyone seriously that came and talked about such a thing. When people speak to you about a preventive war, you tell them to go and fight it.” (Dwight D. Eisenhower, 5 star General and 34th President of the United States of America.)
I am of the opinion that Petraeus is a lot like the fictional Colonel Nicholson in “The Bridge on the River Kwai”.
Luka on September 9, 2010 at 1:41 AM
I think that besieged Pastor of the small Christian Church should send letters to Petraeus, Romney, Palin and Beck.
Dear sir/madam,
Go sod off.
Regards, Pastor Terry Jones
Luka on September 9, 2010 at 1:46 AM
I’ll have to admit, this act by Merkel is odd. Why praise a cartoonist provocateur but condemn a pastor provocateur?
The world just seems to keep getting stranger by the day.
scotash on September 9, 2010 at 1:49 AM
true…it is interesting because the denazification program would actually reverse the petraeus/Ike comparison…..
I’m willing to cut petreaus slack because his leadership was effective in Iraq (his and odierno’s). But I did find it interesting that Obie ‘demoted’ Petraeus from Centcom rather than send Mattis.
Your analogy to Colonel nicholson may be prophetic, but I hope not.
Fighton03 on September 9, 2010 at 1:49 AM
1) He is representing our gov’t. While I’m fine with him holding his own personal opinions, perhaps he should keep them to himself at the time being.
2) So what do you say to the people that believe that American intervention overseas caused Islamic anger which lead to the 9-11 attacks? Isn’t this exactly what Petraeus is doing, except he’s just blaming potential Islamic actions on actions that are protected versus an actual gov’t policy.
MeatHeadinCA on September 9, 2010 at 1:58 AM
Further, while the media is no doubt blowing this out of proportion, one has to question why Petraeus didn’t show a proportionate level of concern over wikileaks … let’s remember that there are only what, 60 people that are doing this BBQ, compared to an international scandal involving US intel.
Perhaps Petraeus took this as an opportunity to address what he views is an American anti-Islamic trend?
Also, Petraeus must recognize that by even making the comments that he did on this book burning, he’d elevate this story from a WND story circulating on the internet to something covered by all media outlets, thus magnifying the “dangerous” behavior.
MeatHeadinCA on September 9, 2010 at 2:02 AM
This is where America is truly different than any nation on earth. I see his expressing an opinion that all of us can disagree with. I do NOT see action or coercion (yet) to prevent this pastors actions. I believe that even public servants are allowed to express their opinions as long as they continue to carry out their duties.
To put it another way…I think it’s better for us to be an example of “I will defend to the death your right to be wrong” than to either kowtow to political correctness or to venture into pogroms and suppression.
Fighton03 on September 9, 2010 at 2:04 AM
DINGDINGDING we have a winnah on this comment. Toal and 100% agreement. While I have no problem with his tactical evaluation of the implications, I agree it was foolish to openly discuss it.
Fighton03 on September 9, 2010 at 2:07 AM
I hope everyone understands the analogy. Nicholson was largely fictional, of course, but he became obsessed with building that bridge and forgot his real duty. I think Petraeus has already done the same thing as he seems “obsessed” with COIN (clear, hold, build from RVN)/Islamic Hearts and Minds, Courageous Restrain/Code Pink ROE and has forgotten, or at least pushed way aside his duty to the United States Constitution, his own nation and his own troops. I think he has “sold his soul” a piece at a time and maybe hasn’t even noticed, like the lobster in the pot.
Luka on September 9, 2010 at 2:10 AM
Which is interesting, because that is the opposite of the ROE used in Iraq during his success. Our forces actively pursued and engaged AQ et al under COIN there. It was one of the underlying causes to the medias ‘grim milestone’ headlines here in the US…until we actually won be fighting the bastages. That is why I’m willing to give a bit of slack. In see AfPak as Irag ca 2004. But I will keep an open mind and an ear to the mil-blogs.
Fighton03 on September 9, 2010 at 2:16 AM
Seems basically the same to me. And this is just a small backwater Christian Church to boot. Or was backwater until Petraues, Romney, Palin, Beck, et all started making it the center of the universe.
Luka on September 9, 2010 at 2:17 AM
holy cow…nothing but typos in that last post…I think that means it’s time to hit the sack here. Night all, and keep the faith.
Fighton03 on September 9, 2010 at 2:17 AM
Check out John Bernard’s blog sometime.
Luka on September 9, 2010 at 2:20 AM
Luka on September 9, 2010 at 2:20 AM
Fighton03 on September 9, 2010 at 2:37 AM
Would you find it appropriate if someone like Obama expressed his opinion about certain things, publicly? What about say McChrystal when he expressed his opinion? Granted, an elected office is different than being a general, but Petraeus is still a public servant. What would you say if you found out tomorrow that Janet Napolitano was a truther? You found out after she spoke at a truther convention. Do you think she should keep her job?
Now, I don’t see this as coercion, but it’s easy to see how that’s the next step.
Petraeus was kowtowing to political correctness, though. Does he seriously believe that somehow the Taliban or AQ is less dangerous if we don’t provoke their religion?
Perhaps Ronald Reagan was putting the Free World at risk when denouncing Socialism…
MeatHeadinCA on September 9, 2010 at 2:40 AM
I tend to doubt his tactical evaluation, but I can’t help but wonder what is a man who is supposedly so disciplined and such doing by letting this slip? It may illuminate something that he holds true. Thus, my opinion that this attitude perhaps signifies a more authoritative philosophy.
Then again, I’m quite disappointed with many (not all) higher ranked members of the army. They almost seem to look at things as “how can we solve?” instead of “what is right? what is wrong?” Colin Powell’s love for big gov’t comes to mind.
MeatHeadinCA on September 9, 2010 at 2:44 AM
Yeah, that’s the disappointing thing. I’m not bothered that Beck brought it up since he’s not a politician and he’s not planning to be one (I think). I’m not sure about Palin and Romney. But a gov’t official (who is not the moral compass of this country), well that does bother me. You know something is wrong when Eric Holder and Patraeus are on the same page.
MeatHeadinCA on September 9, 2010 at 2:46 AM
A site for some clear thinking on Islam
Luka on September 9, 2010 at 2:47 AM
god why can’t I get out of here and hit the sack…lol.
I have to admit I was a bit taken aback by Mcchrystals open condomnation of his ‘superiors’ lol. But I am an idealogue when it comes to to thourghts/opinions vs actions.
I really believe that is the real difference America represents, and if obie himself spouted all his marxist/socialist BS while ending Fannie Mae and killed the Dept of Education and privatized SS. Well…..I could live with that.
Now..for real…Meat and Luca…we ain’t that far apart, so have a good night and keep up hte good fight in the AM.
Fighton03 on September 9, 2010 at 2:49 AM
Heh. I should go to bed soon too.
1) Mc did the wrong thing. This isn’t acceptable in the military and if we use Pet. logic, Mc may have even been encouraging the enemy.
2) I try to look at this from the other side of things. We complain when journalists, profs, pastors, (all not nec getting a pay check from the gov’t) inject their opinion into things instead of just reporting, educating (researching), or preaching. Now, we have two guys working for the gov’t (Mc and Pet) and they both sort of start opining … why is this acceptable?
Night.
MeatHeadinCA on September 9, 2010 at 2:53 AM
And to be clear, I don’t think that opinion is bad or that public officials shouldn’t have them or even at times share them. I just find a shared opinion on such an (originally) petty issue to be, well, irresponsible, unprofessional, and troubling in the sense that it seems to reflect a more authoritative tone.
Let’s put it this way, while I doubt Petraeus would ever run for office, it’s highly unlikely he’d get my vote (no matter which party ticket he was on).
MeatHeadinCA on September 9, 2010 at 2:56 AM
I also have a problem with the actual content of Petraeus’ opinion. He implies that the actions private citizens provokes the enemy and thus makes things less safe. Well, that’s not exactly true. Yes, the actions of the private citizen provoke the enemy, but it is the enemy that makes things less safe. That is why they are our enemy. We aren’t simply fighting over land or wealth. We are fighting a war based on ideas.
We didn’t win the Cold War by appeasing communists. Why should we win (or at least stabilize) this war by appeasing Islamists?
MeatHeadinCA on September 9, 2010 at 3:00 AM
Our own military burned! yes burned a whole bunch of Bibles so they wouldn’t be distributed to afghans and offend islam… for crying out loud America, they hate you, they want to cut off your head!!! Don’t you get it???? Geese louise, wise up !!! OMG Americans can be STUPED………
Murphy9 on September 9, 2010 at 3:07 AM
It is a bit ironic that the Muslims (and others) wanting to build the Mosque near the 9/11 site base it on the principle of “freedom of religion” and this award was given based on the principle of “freedom of speech”, but yet somehow that “freedom of speech” thing does not work for the Muslims.
And that everyone is concerned of a Muslim backlash on all these things. When has there not been a Muslim backlash going on?
albill on September 9, 2010 at 6:15 AM
I’m living here in Germany and I am very impressed with them.
Nice people, clean, beautiful country, thriving economically.
We have a lot to learn from them.
Finally, a leader with the guts to say being tolerant of intolerance, is weak and sends the wrong message.
Our “leaders” (such as they are currently), could learn a lot from Germany.
That is, if our “leaders” had the ability to learn, which for the most part they don’t (e.g. Barack Obama).
NoDonkey on September 9, 2010 at 6:43 AM
Not to worry about another Hitler rising from the Germans…..the country as Merkel knows it is about 5-10 years away from some form of Sharia Law represented in Germany. You see it’s all about “birth rate”. Germans aren’t having them and Muslims are off the charts.
Islam is the future of Europe!
PappyD61 on September 9, 2010 at 6:58 AM
Don’t believe me?
You Tube: Muslim Demographics (it’s also to late for Canada).
PappyD61 on September 9, 2010 at 7:00 AM
Petraeus has put more terrorists in the ground than you can even dream of. But your anonymous bravado and armchair strategizing makes for a much more compelling argument than the entirety of COIN doctrine.
I’m curious, do you guys think the Koran burning stunt is a good thing for our mission in Afghanistan?
pmm on September 9, 2010 at 7:36 AM
No one detests the Koran more than I. However, I am conflicted about burning any book, no matter how heinous. It’s not because I don’t believe in provoking Muslims.
Disturb the Universe on September 9, 2010 at 8:35 AM
Since 632, C.E. or whenever the evil cult began.
thuja on September 9, 2010 at 8:58 AM
Terry Jones is an a$$hole agent provocateur who stands shoulder to shoulder with Fred Phelps, and has apologists from his “congregation” writing on the “church” website why Phelps’ protests at military funerals are OKAY. So, REALLY? You want to align yourself with THAT?
Your BS comments about General Petreaus are out of line completely as well. I’m curious ~ what was your stand when the General Betrayus ad came out? Where were you on that? (You’ll notice he’s said nothing about the GZ mosque, right?) Just ignorant. He has a sworn duty TO PROTECT HIS TROOPS and this book burning LOSER, firing up the Death to America Club just so he can get a sofa seat on Good Morning America and a call from Franklin Graham, needs to THINK about the consequences of his actions. Because you know who’s going to PAY for them? Not Minister MuttonChops. The 18 year old Army Third Class in RIOT gear who has to watch the maddening crowd swarm Bagram from every direction if this little bonfire goes off, THAT’S who gets to pay the price for a$$hole’s airtime.
Or WORSE, the twelve poor kids in some godforsaken sh*thole outpost corner of Afghanistan, who don’t have the benefit of numbers when word gets to the local village and they go all whirling dervish.
Oh, yeah. It’s a BIG, F*CKING JOKE to everyone sitting here SAFE, watching the news and seeing Rage Boy’s face on a Newsweek cover yet AGAIN. And you’re all SICK of kowtowing ~ really, with ALL the kowtowing you DO from your couches ~ while my nephew sits in a NATO base in-country, along with thousands of other Americans wondering if the place is going to explode around them because of ONE MORON.
And, while everyone else is slapping this Fred Phelps loving, homohating piece of sh*t on the back for being SO BRAVE…that’s all Petreaus asked this jackass to do ~ think about THAT.
tree hugging sister on September 9, 2010 at 9:22 AM
I could see them thread the needle by saying that cartoons are creative, while book burning is destructive.
Vashta.Nerada on September 9, 2010 at 9:28 AM
PappyD61 on September 9, 2010 at 6:58 AM
What in de hell are you talking about?
I’ve been living here for two months and haven’t seen a burqa yet, maybe two headscarves.
Seen MANY more (including the whole body covering) in Washington DC.
Haven’t seen a mosque yet here either.
France isn’t going well, but Deutchland is fine.
And back the German against the wall and we’ll see what happens.
My prediction is that it won’t go well for the muzzies if they try any of it, even in France.
NoDonkey on September 9, 2010 at 9:31 AM
Merkel/Palin in ’12?
God how I love women with balls. Big, brass balls. Courage turns me on.
I wonder if there’s a website like that. I think I’ll Google it.
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By the way, the reason to oppose the Koran burning is the same exact reason to oppose the Ground Zero mosque: they’re douche-moves.
I will – and have – fought to defend the rights of both groups to engage in such completely douchey behavior. I unequivocally support and defend their rights of free expression and freedom of religion.
And if the GOVERNMENT tried to stop either, in an official way, I’d show up and bring guns and beer.
But that doesn’t mean I can’t politely ask both sets of a-holes to quit being such major league douches.
Douches ruin everything for everybody. Besides, do I REALLY want to hand the ultimate douches – our Jihadi pals – something to use as moral equivalence for all their douchery?
Nope. Want to nuke the Jihadis? Okay. Just no book burning, please.
Every time I think of the idea, I just picture Eric Cartman looking at it and saying “Weak.”
And that’s what it is: weak, lame douchery.
Also, burning books releases greenhouse gases, and that can’t be good. At the very least, recycle the paper pulp and turn them into Danielle Steel novels. That’d still be douchy, but funny-douchy.
Professor Blather on September 9, 2010 at 9:48 AM
You are operating under the false assumption that anyone is going to be heartwarmed by us not burning the book. Even if you buy into the “hearts and minds” strategy, which seems to me more ludicrous as days go by, the provocation has already been made, and if the ceremony is cancelled, it will not be giving anyone the warm fuzzies or engender understanding. It will have been a confrontation from which one side backed down, and it may well return things to the status quo, but it will not tip the scales the other way.
KinleyArdal on September 9, 2010 at 10:17 AM
This is an unnecessary provocation!
Sincerely,
Sarah Palin and Sean Hannity
shuzilla on September 9, 2010 at 10:33 AM
There are obvious parallels between European Fascism and Islam. There already seems to be an alliance of sorts between communists in the West and radical islam. One of the more prominent groups protesting FOR the GZM last week were the American communists.
Adherence to the koran requires a strict totalitarian dictatorship. Call the leader a fuhrer or a caliph, there’s not a lot of difference there.
slickwillie2001 on September 9, 2010 at 10:36 AM
Agree. The important thing to remember is that those who burn our flag and threaten violence hate the very concept of America, which is a personal freedom that inclused burning a personal copy of the Koran even if that copy, in the end, isn’t actually burned. Just the fact that in America it could be burned without sanction is enough for millions to see American ideals as a threat.
shuzilla on September 9, 2010 at 10:44 AM
Get over it and mind your own beeswax
whiskeytango on September 9, 2010 at 10:53 AM
Note that our own government officials want to investigate the opponents to the mosque provocation and our own president makes the time to get in his support of it, but with the Koran provocation we’re asked to consider the feelings of people who mosty live elsewhere and probably hate us anyway.
It’s amazing that one guy can captivate national news in not just this country but all over the world, and it has nothing to do with mass murder (yet) or any other crime he’s committed.
I fear one day some religious fanatics in the name of Christ will decide that by pulling off their own 911 they’ll garner the amount of respect that 911 seemingly brought the Muslim community. And by respect I mean fear of retribution and the ability to leverage that fear to advance your personal agenda.
We live in a post-911 world with post-911 sensibilities. If this Koran burning had been proposed in August of 2001 would anyone have cared at the time? I think not, because there was no 911 to be feared as a consequence of such a “provocation.”
shuzilla on September 9, 2010 at 10:55 AM
If I were that pastor in Florida I wouldn’t burn the Korans. Book burning is never a good thing.
No, I’d take them and make a cross out of them. A big cross. Call it art and then stand back and watch the hypocrites fall all over themselves.
Jaynie59 on September 9, 2010 at 11:02 AM
Have you read these articles that deal with that very issue?
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/others/islamism-fascism-terrorism.html
shuzilla on September 9, 2010 at 11:04 AM
I like that! How about, when he’s done with them, he dumps them into a recycle bin! Islamists vs. Environmentalists, head-to-head!
shuzilla on September 9, 2010 at 11:06 AM
It’s not their rights which Aiman views as being trampled, its the Prophet physically, as well as Muslims physically. Nowhere in his words is any concept of rights.
If it is indeed a matter of rights, then Aiman should be asking why there are no churches allowed in Mecca.
When Muslims attach such a high value to objects associated with their religion — to the point where they will kill for such objects — be it a stone in the desert, a picture of the prophet, or a copy of the Koran — is it any wonder that others think they are idol-worshippers?
unclesmrgol on September 9, 2010 at 11:09 AM
Those feelings are worthy of consideration. Now, if they’d just let us build that church in Mecca….
unclesmrgol on September 9, 2010 at 11:11 AM
Oh yah! Well my dog can beat your dog up and with one paw tied behind his back.
Our “mission” in Afghanistan has become coco for coco puffs.
Jeckle on September 9, 2010 at 2:47 PM
Get off your high horse and read just a little bit about your wonderful above criticism Imam General
Then get back to me … … or not.
Jeckle on September 9, 2010 at 2:56 PM
There’s two pages of “high horse” already HERE, pal.
But I’m willing to dish a little more ~ I think your “Imam General” is a douchey thing, too.
No one’s above criticism. Try not to be a tool doing it.
tree hugging sister on September 9, 2010 at 5:02 PM
This is a bullshit scripted moment. Where was Merkel and crew when the gentleman in questioned needed her and others–in hiding that’s where. All of Europe and the US refused to publish the cartoons thus laying down like dogs on a cornerstone of our civilization. Now look at the mess we are in. We can’t do any thing without consulting Muslims, retrograde degenerates for the most part, out of fear we may insult them.
Korans handled with white gloves in prisons and bibles burnt by the US military. Oh yeah we got the upper hand in this 1500 year conflict. We so deserve to have Muslims take over Europe and the US. We deserve our dhimmitude. Oh look, there’s a jew behind a tree.
patrick neid on September 9, 2010 at 5:43 PM
Yes it’s late, but it’s still a good step forward. Can you imagine Bammie giving such an award?
Yes, nothing infuriates me more than US soldiers handling mein koran with white gloves while the book is being quoted by those trying to kill them.
Giving korans to islamic extremist prisoners is like giving Viagra to child rapists.
slickwillie2001 on September 9, 2010 at 6:49 PM
Yes it’s late, but it’s still a good step forward. Can you imagine Bammie giving such an award?
Yes, nothing infuriates me more than US soldiers handling mein koran with white gloves while the book is being quoted by those trying to kill them.
Giving korans to islamic extremist prisoners is like giving Vigara to child rapists.
slickwillie2001 on September 9, 2010 at 7:29 PM
The focus must be kept on violent islamists who set the tone for muslims–who control the tone–around the world. Moderate muslims must step up to the plate and resist the radicals who would install sharia law wherever they can. But these moderates have a tiny footprint is the reality.
And another reality is that some misguided pastor issue is a mere speck compared to the hideous stain of global jihad that confronts us.
Like comparing a grain of salt to a black hole.
Pastor is non issue for islamists kill with or without cause and their cause is pure evil.
Either we stamp them out or the reverse.
Sherman1864 on September 11, 2010 at 4:23 AM
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