Castro: The “Cuban model” doesn’t work anymore
posted at 7:22 pm on September 8, 2010 by Allahpundit
A clammy encounter with the Atlantic’s Jeffrey Goldberg between lunch and an afternoon dolphin show produces a tantalizing tidbit:
But during the generally lighthearted conversation (we had just spent three hours talking about Iran and the Middle East), I asked him if he believed the Cuban model was still something worth exporting.
“The Cuban model doesn’t even work for us anymore,” he said.
This struck me as the mother of all Emily Litella moments. Did the leader of the Revolution just say, in essence, “Never mind”?
I asked Julia to interpret this stunning statement for me. She said, “He wasn’t rejecting the ideas of the Revolution. I took it to be an acknowledgment that under ‘the Cuban model’ the state has much too big a role in the economic life of the country.”
Julia pointed out that one effect of such a sentiment might be to create space for his brother, Raul, who is now president, to enact the necessary reforms in the face of what will surely be push-back from orthodox communists within the Party and the bureaucracy. Raul Castro is already loosening the state’s hold on the economy. He recently announced, in fact, that small businesses can now operate and that foreign investors could now buy Cuban real estate. (The joke of this new announcement, of course, is that Americans are not allowed to invest in Cuba, not because of Cuban policy, but because of American policy. In other words, Cuba is beginning to adopt the sort of economic ideas that America has long-demanded it adopt, but Americans are not allowed to participate in this free-market experiment because of our government’s hypocritical and stupidly self-defeating embargo policy. We’ll regret this, of course, when Cubans partner with Europeans and Brazilians to buy up all the best hotels).
Insert the hacky “Cuban model”/Hopenchange joke of your choosing right here. A serious question, though: Elsewhere in this same interview, Castro railed against Iranian anti-semitism and explicitly told Goldberg he was saying it “so you can communicate it” to Ahmadinejad. I.e. he’s very consciously using this as an opportunity to send messages to world leaders. Presumably his point about the “Cuban model” is meant as a communique to American leaders that a little capitalist outreach right now might be received, if not warmly, at least not coldly. Obama’s too far left to get away with that politically but if he got some cover from the GOP — in particular, a Senator Rubio would be exceedingly helpful — it might give him space to reconsider the embargo. Ed argued last year that it’s time to drop it, partly because the Castro boys have been reduced to decrepit old jokes internationally and partly because outreach might do more to earn concessions on democracy and human rights at this point than further isolation. Something to think about?









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Either the Cubans are playing multiple steps ahead and we can’t see it, or Castro just had an epiphany
Defector01 on September 8, 2010 at 7:26 PM
This is the same as:
1. The Fall of the Berlin wall
2. Rosie O’Donnell falling in love with Donald Trump
3. Barack Obama saying, “You know, I’ve been reconsidering this whole Socialism thing”.
4. Kathy Griffin getting a laugh at one of her shows.
5. Bloomberg having a speech without saying, “Constitution”.
darkmetal on September 8, 2010 at 7:26 PM
Maybe the Dems can take a hint, since they caused our latest recession:
http://jumpinginpools.blogspot.com/2010/08/proof-that-democrats-are-at-fault-for.html
orfannkyl on September 8, 2010 at 7:26 PM
Michael Moore is planning a hit piece on Castro now.
Howcome on September 8, 2010 at 7:26 PM
Communism, Marxism it’s dead, the old missed it.
Tell Obama …
tarpon on September 8, 2010 at 7:27 PM
Bring back the Casinos. No offense to Vegas, but I always enjoyed the Caribbean more. Seriously, what would happen to Hugo if Cuba were to turn capitalist and start cosing-up with the US?
cobrakai99 on September 8, 2010 at 7:28 PM
The Socialist Utopia never had a prayer of being self-sustaining, and Castro’s run out of sugar daddies to leech from.
Arabs aren’t interested in propping up his ideology, he’s got nothing the Chinese want, and I’d bet Putin would much rather expend his resources on influence a lot closer to the Russian borders.
JEM on September 8, 2010 at 7:28 PM
Reagan Smiles down from the clouds.
portlandon on September 8, 2010 at 7:28 PM
I’ll be glad to.
Could someone please forward that memo to Obama. K? THx.
bitsy on September 8, 2010 at 7:29 PM
Hollywood collectively craps its pants.
somewhatconcerned on September 8, 2010 at 7:31 PM
And millions of unwashed asses in Che t-shirts are too stoned to notice.
trubble on September 8, 2010 at 7:31 PM
Now he finds,er,figures it out!!!!!!!!!!!!
Cuba Hopeis/Changeis no workis!!!!
canopfor on September 8, 2010 at 7:31 PM
He’s just looking for a handout. Maybe he should ask his old buddy Hugo for a few bucks. Cuba was a beautiful country blessed with a wonderful climate. Suited perfectly for tobacco, sugar and bananas. With the most serene beaches this side of heaven. What a great tourist destination this island was before he took over. Of course he and his socialist buddies destroyed that in an instant, and I’m not sure why.
You just have to look off the coast of Florida to see what Obama has in stall for the Good Ole USA. Of course I won’t be alive in fifty one years for Obama to admit his mistake.
Tommy_G on September 8, 2010 at 7:32 PM
Oliver Stone just found out,and spits his coffee out!!(sarc).
canopfor on September 8, 2010 at 7:33 PM
El Code Pinko’s are having a Cuban,It Can’t Be True
Pity Party!!(sarc).
canopfor on September 8, 2010 at 7:34 PM
Dagnabit, Obama is just not going to accept that nonsense. We here in the USA are just going to try our best to prove that Marxism/Communism does work!
red131 on September 8, 2010 at 7:35 PM
BUT THE LEADER OF THE FREE WORLD WANTS TO MODEL OUR COUNTRY AFTER CUBA?
How stupid can one Indonesian/Kenyan be?????
SDarchitect on September 8, 2010 at 7:35 PM
It is ironic, we talk about exporting our ideals of liberty, democracy, free enterprise, yet it is our own laws, not Cubas, that keep us from going to Cuba to interact with them and spend our money
firepilot on September 8, 2010 at 7:35 PM
This is what happens when you get older as you knew the system never worked. However, back then, he was young, in power, controlled the military and now, has to worry about being taken apart and buried by the very same people.
Abelman on September 8, 2010 at 7:37 PM
I was just wondering if you read this! Okay now I’ll read what you said.
petunia on September 8, 2010 at 7:37 PM
Corpses can talk?
lorien1973 on September 8, 2010 at 7:38 PM
It only takes thousands of ruined lives to convince libs that their ideas are stupid. this is the tragic comic end to a tragic human catastrophe.
Mojave Mark on September 8, 2010 at 7:39 PM
Breaking: Ice crystals spotted in Hell.
Euro states are un-socializing their economies, and now even Cuba. Everyone’s going private except us, the Obamanation.
petefrt on September 8, 2010 at 7:39 PM
Perhaps he looking back on his life and realizes that it’s time to start making payments on his ecumenical insurance policy.
Tommy_G on September 8, 2010 at 7:41 PM
Lifting it probably isn’t very feesible, couple of reasons why:
1) There are tons of Cuban-American immigrants with grievances on file at State Dept. to recover the property/land that Castro stole from them. They will not be too keen to this without Reparations from Castro
2) All the other Carribean nations do not want Castroism gone, because it has indirectly benefited them. Imagine what happens to their tourism industry if money flows into Cuba to build resorts and US travel to cuba is lifted
Vegas probably wouldn’t exist as we know it if not for Castro, so it may be against their interest as well. Though they may be large enough at this point to not need to worry about Havana taking off with Gaming/Resorts, etc.
jp on September 8, 2010 at 7:41 PM
Why would Obama want to help show Castro`s “Cuban model” failed when he probably admires the He!! out of it? Obama probably read this and was mad as he is trying to rush us into total government control!
bluemarlin on September 8, 2010 at 7:42 PM
Exactly what I was thinking!
But we definitely need to proceed with caution. And never forget that these people are not freedom lovers. They will be dead soon, we should start trying to make what happens next in Cuba better than it’s past…
I think it is a signal… Raul is going to do the Gorbachev thing and they don’t want to team up with South American crack pots.
I wish we had good people at State who could handle this without botching it.
We need some Cuban Americans to work on this with the administration, sorry to say, they are the ones in charge.
petunia on September 8, 2010 at 7:43 PM
Until the government decides to steal it again.
John the Libertarian on September 8, 2010 at 7:44 PM
How bad did it get to where Castro makes more sense than our El Presidente?
FontanaConservative on September 8, 2010 at 7:44 PM
Expect Obama to go full steam ahead, hit the gas, run us into the ditch and watch us explode. Socialism and communism has never worked before but by golly, he will prove that the world is wrong and he’s the One who will make it work…. even if it means destroying our Nation.
Key West Reader on September 8, 2010 at 7:44 PM
“Anymore”?
SouthernGent on September 8, 2010 at 7:44 PM
Don’t hold your breath on that. They’ll TAKE what they can get…make all the promises in the world…and then do damned well what they please.
You don’t voluntarily give up your place at the head of the food chain in a communist run country.
GarandFan on September 8, 2010 at 7:45 PM
Leftist will condemn Castro and call him racist for saying that Obamanomics doesn’t work.
pedestrian on September 8, 2010 at 7:45 PM
Only two years now and we can get out of this morass.
petunia on September 8, 2010 at 7:45 PM
/Michael Moore was unavailable for comment.
Key West Reader on September 8, 2010 at 7:46 PM
Wow, he’s alive. I agree, it’s time for a little friendly capitalism.
Free Constitution on September 8, 2010 at 7:47 PM
uh…what?
Knott Buyinit on September 8, 2010 at 7:47 PM
“The bashing GWB model doesn’t even work for me any more” –Petulant Whiner in Chief
On the demise of the Castro-brothers – it’s one of the more schadenfreudig events.
Tears for Michael Moore and all the other plantation-loving morons and their elitist masters
Schadenfreude on September 8, 2010 at 7:49 PM
“Michael…we’re bigger than U.S. Steel.”
joejm65 on September 8, 2010 at 7:49 PM
So what is China doing with the wealth it generates by participating in world markets?
Would an similarly prosperous Cuban government use that wealth for political influence, either overtly or covertly?
Skandia Recluse on September 8, 2010 at 7:50 PM
Castro is obviously a racist.
ButterflyDragon on September 8, 2010 at 7:51 PM
One thing we can all agree on is that Vegas is large enough as it is.
pedestrian on September 8, 2010 at 7:52 PM
It nerer did Fido
darwin-t on September 8, 2010 at 7:52 PM
This is the nut who wanted to launch nukes at us.
Excuse me if I don’t care much about the policy implications and just want him to die already.
Aquateen Hungerforce on September 8, 2010 at 7:52 PM
Bingo!!
ButterflyDragon on September 8, 2010 at 7:52 PM
That’s quite a confession. I like it!
Of course, the progressive will simply say that is nothing but senile talk.
Conservative Samizdat on September 8, 2010 at 7:54 PM
heh.
second look at Castro?
ok, nevermind….
ted c on September 8, 2010 at 7:55 PM
I don’t feel strongly about the embargo but can you imagine the squealing that would take place if property was bought by American. Many probably own them already through foreign countries. Kind of sad if exiles had to buy their own property.
Cindy Munford on September 8, 2010 at 7:56 PM
Never did work. Never will work.
Oldnuke on September 8, 2010 at 7:58 PM
Oh look, a knee jerk “blame America” lecture by a lib journalist. His socialist hero might finally be seeing the light of capitalism, he is at a loss for words, so he attacks America.
If Cuba really is open to embracing a more capitalist system, then the embargo should be lifted, meaning America WON and the embargo was not hypocritical because we stood on principles. Cuba also had missiles pointed at us and willfully chose to ally with the Soviet Union, the embargo was more than warranted. What is hypocritical is this liberal hack attacking America for not opening up trade with Cuba, but I bet he moans about allowing China in the WTO for committing the same human rights abuses Cuba is guilty of.
Daemonocracy on September 8, 2010 at 7:59 PM
Hey, lets just forget the last 50 years and all be friends???
BigWyo on September 8, 2010 at 8:04 PM
Get Cuba to go capitalist, have some sort of reparations for exiled Cubans, and you’ll create 1000s of jobs for US workers rebuilding that rat trap into the tourist mecca it should be.
drfredc on September 8, 2010 at 8:08 PM
I can not articulate into words how deeply depressing it is that Castro – f’ing CASTRO – appears to be to the RIGHT of the sitting U.S. president on matters of economics and foreign relations with Israel.
Vyce on September 8, 2010 at 8:09 PM
As for ending the embargo, I’ll get on board when Florida’s Cuban community does. When they’re ready, it’ll be time.
Kafir on September 8, 2010 at 8:09 PM
sort of like the GM IPO
BruceB on September 8, 2010 at 8:09 PM
You mean the one that your article pretty much says is working?
29Victor on September 8, 2010 at 8:14 PM
Has he considered that maybe they just need the right people to make it work?
/sarc
ThePrez on September 8, 2010 at 8:21 PM
For us? Anymore?
Reminds me of the Newhart story of the guy making it with the boss’s wife, when she suddenly cries out, “Kiss me, kiss me!”
The nervous response: “Are you serious? I shouldn’t even be doing this.“
Barnestormer on September 8, 2010 at 8:22 PM
Perhaps she feels under-paid.
ThePrez on September 8, 2010 at 8:28 PM
So long Castro
It’s really strange how all (well most) of the olde ‘protest songs’ come ’round to bite the singers in the a$$.
Bye Bye Castro
Caststeel on September 8, 2010 at 8:30 PM
But… but Communism was the way of the future!
ZK on September 8, 2010 at 8:35 PM
Let’s uh… let’s not discourage this kind of talk from Castro. If he wants to scold Ahmadinejad and suggest that maybe the state doesn’t have all the answers, it might be a good idea to agree with him for a change.
Wow, never thought I’d ever agree with this guy. Deathbed conversion?
Red Cloud on September 8, 2010 at 8:38 PM
Why do these evil ones persist forever? Must the good die young?
Carter keeps on showing up.
I think I will switch to an all-peanut diet.
I just hope it doesn`t leave me looking like Dorian Grey or Carter.
Sherman1864 on September 8, 2010 at 8:45 PM
The reason why Cubans are “living in poverty” is because the commies in charge steal everything they can get their hands on. Castro is VERY wealthy as are other high ranking government officials.
http://www.therealcuba.com/Castro%20the%20multimillionaire.htm
There are many countries that ignore the embargo (Canada and South Korea for example) and pump hundreds of millions if not billions into Cuba’s economy. Hell, even America does some business with Cuba!
http://bigjournalism.com/hfontova/2010/08/24/some-questions-for-time-magazine-re-cuba/
http://www.autentico.org/oa09537.php
Whether or not we should lift the embargo is debateable, but let’s not pretend that the “embargo” we observe (somewhat) is responsible for the poverty. That honor belongs to the commie robber barons.
Hard Right on September 8, 2010 at 8:45 PM
Don’t worry Mr. Castro, the government of the United States is working for a bailout.
Just hang in there.
maynila on September 8, 2010 at 8:51 PM
Wasn’t there some kind of meeting not long ago between the North Korean Dear Leader, Chavez in Venezuela, and I’m-a-nut-job of Iran? (I can’t remember their real names…) In Cuba?
Maybe Castro thought one of them had the answers. Now he knows, it doesn’t work anywhere.
petunia on September 8, 2010 at 8:54 PM
Precisely.
Bob's Kid on September 8, 2010 at 8:57 PM
Ok, if Castro believes that the “Cuban model” has failed, then why is he still trying to export it to Venezuela, Nicaragua, Bolivia and Ecuador, to name a few.
Castro is trying to make nice to Obama while still supporting violent communist revolution abroad.
simkeith on September 8, 2010 at 9:00 PM
I don’t think anyone is saying that.
But the embargo is also about the property confiscation. I wonder if Castro is to the point of recognizing personal property.
I wonder what kind of compensation the Cuban-Americans would require at this point. Much of how we proceed in the future is going to depend on them.
petunia on September 8, 2010 at 9:00 PM
Could the old bastard finally have developed a conscience? Too bad so many had to suffer for his “dream.”
doufree on September 8, 2010 at 9:00 PM
Elian Gonzalez just said “Uh-oh”.
Maybe the Cuban utopia Janet Barbecue-Reno promised him after the blitzkrieg invasion of his uncle’s house won’t be so permanent and wonderful after all?
viking01 on September 8, 2010 at 9:11 PM
So I guess all these small c communists like Bill Ayers who support Gaza Flotillas and also heart Cuba are going to rethink their support for the hate Israel movement. Or will they dump Castro for Palestine?
Buy Danish on September 8, 2010 at 9:21 PM
I worked in a non-profit few years back and we were forced to watch a propaganda piece at a staff meeting after work. It was about the wonderful Cuban Health care system. All the little libtards sat there and took notes. I was furious and said to my boss, ‘you’re taking time away from me with my kids for this communist propaganda, rubbish.’ I was not the most popular person in this libtard cesspool.
tessa on September 8, 2010 at 9:22 PM
I think it’s a case of better late than never. There is a long way to go as far as making things right for Cubans who had to leave their homeland, who were jailed for their beliefs or who had their property confiscated. But Cuba is very close to us physically. I say if they want to make some changes, let’s give them a hand and make nice. There is plenty of room for another beautiful island vacation spot to flourish economically.
CarolinaGirl6 on September 8, 2010 at 9:34 PM
Mmmmmmm Cuban girls = muy bonita
Alden Pyle on September 8, 2010 at 9:40 PM
It really all depends on what your definition of “work” is.
berri sees the history of communism as being a vehicle for certain chosen ones to control entire nations of peoples, down to their dying breath. And the dying part is the ultimate power trip for tyrants that aspire to write history, in blood, preferably. obamacare is foundational to achieving just such an iron grip.
So while you think these dictatorships never “worked” because they ultimately collapsed and caused untold suffering and human agony, dictator wanna-be’s like berri see everything but the collapse as possible and desirable with HIM at the helm, living uber-large as a global master. (national dictatorship is so 20th century)
Everything but the collapse is exactly how they WANT it to work. It’s a feature, not a bug.
As far as the collapse part goes, well, berri knows that he’s the smartest smarty that ever lived; he’ll be the first one to realize the glorious dream of a 1,000 year new world order. Everyone knows that.
tigerlily on September 8, 2010 at 9:45 PM
Liberals sure to blame this on Fidel’s senile dementia…
slickwillie2001 on September 8, 2010 at 9:54 PM
Capitalism always has to come in and save Socialism’s ass. Even in North Korea they are letting small farmers sell at underground markets, just like they used to do in the USSR. When the Norks cracked down, a genuine people’s rebellion began to rear up and the apparatchiks had to back off to save themselves.
YehuditTX on September 8, 2010 at 10:03 PM
Yeah, but the optics are great. For everyone to the right of them.
YehuditTX on September 8, 2010 at 10:06 PM
When you’ve lost Castro….
Lily on September 8, 2010 at 10:32 PM
Funny how Reagan FINALLY won….too bad the man wasn’t here to see it.
It has been almost 20 years (2011 is 20 years) to when the USSR dissolved, and now another Communist domino falls in upon itself.
Take note, my fellow conservatives-change may take years and DECADES but it will eventually be made right.
SgtSVJones on September 8, 2010 at 10:48 PM
Not until Hyman Roth gets his casino back!
tommylotto on September 8, 2010 at 10:59 PM
Cuba must be in even worse economic shape than it appears.
I didn’t think that was possible, but if Fidel’s finally admitting that his Cuban Model doesn’t work, it must be bad.
SuperCool on September 9, 2010 at 12:09 AM
Of course, Castro originally came to the US for help, we snubbed him, then he headed on over to the USSR and the rest is history. If Eisenhower and our idiot State Department had been a little more on the ball, the last 50 years could have been quite different. Now it looks like Castro might be coming to us again. We’ll probably blow it again. As for Vegas, if the casino owners got the chance, they would just build the same kind of hotels in Cuba and rake in the cash.
gordo on September 9, 2010 at 1:08 AM
..dozens of Hollywood actors are now changing their next year’s Summer vacation plans, canceling hotel reservations in Havana, and booking stays in Maricaibo..
The War Planner on September 9, 2010 at 2:31 AM
I wonder how his chum Chavez takes it. To be a fly on the wall….
{o.o}
herself on September 9, 2010 at 4:22 AM
If by “us” he means the privileged few, this must mean they’ve finally run out of other people’s money. If by “us” he means the Cuban people who have suffered under the socialist boot for 50 years, it takes serious nerve to say “anymore.”
DrMagnolias on September 9, 2010 at 5:46 AM
Even Castro is in disagreement with Obama when Castro is thinking, “the state has much too big a role in the economic life of the country.”
albill on September 9, 2010 at 6:18 AM
It’s certainly not time to throw the door wide open…but I’d say we should opening it just a teeny crack. The embargo is little more than a chest-beating contest that’s as decrepit as Castro.
If we’re really determined to hold a grudge, wait until the old fart dies, THEN start talking about lifting the embargo.
Dark-Star on September 9, 2010 at 6:41 AM
They could
So I guess all these small c communists like Bill Ayers who support Gaza Flotillas and also heart Cuba are going to rethink their support for the hate Israel movement. Or will they dump Castro for Palestine?
Buy Danish on September 8, 2010 at 9:21 PM
Could go either way, although I suspect the left could pull off an easy victory on Cuba if they played their cards right. Very few will defend an embargo against a satellite nation of a dead empire and a leader who has one foot in the grave.
Dark-Star on September 9, 2010 at 6:44 AM
Model Marxist state fails unexpectedly; aging Jack Paar fans hardest hit.
Barnestormer on September 9, 2010 at 7:08 AM
But Michael Moore said it worked!@!11eleventy11!!
I REFUSE TO BELIEVE THIS!@!$
/O-bot off
Good Lt on September 9, 2010 at 8:00 AM
ahhhhhhhhhhhh…… as meet ya maker time nears….the tune changes…….. ya can’t just sweep them bodies under da rug, Fidel……. enjoy ya eternity in Hell.
P.S bring some rum…. Ted finished off all the scotch on day one
roflmao
donabernathy on September 9, 2010 at 8:28 AM
J_Crater on September 9, 2010 at 8:50 AM
Wow
I guess the congressional black caucus is in despair
Sonosam on September 9, 2010 at 9:01 AM
I support lifting the embargo. If you begin to have unlimited americans travelling there and buying land there and cubans able to do free enterprise, the cuban gov’t will not be able to keep control, information will flow to freely and that will be it, just as what happened to the soviet union.
Monkeytoe on September 9, 2010 at 9:53 AM
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