Factcheck: Beware Dems claiming to have voted against the TARP bailout

posted at 4:12 pm on September 3, 2010 by Ed Morrissey

Who says Democrats haven’t paid attention to the Tea Party message?  Suddenly, even though the Obama administration says that the bailouts helped rescue the global economy from collapse, vulnerable incumbents of the President’s party claim that they voted against TARP.  Factcheck warns that some of them weren’t even in Congress at the time to cast a vote on the actual bailout, and that the vote that most of them use to justify these claims came after Treasury already had all of the cash:

At least five freshman Democratic House members are running ads claiming they voted against the bank “bailout,” when in fact none was in Congress when the bill setting up the Troubled Asset Relief Program, or TARP, was enacted.

  • Mary Jo Kilroy says she “voted against the bank bailout.”
  • Kathy Dahlkemper says she voted “against a bailout that helped Wall Street.”
  • Frank Kratovil claims to have cast his vote in opposition to “the big bank bailout.”
  • Dina Titus’ ad maintains she “even voted against the bank bailout.”
  • Glenn Nye’s ad tells viewers he went “against his own party” and “voted against the Wall Street bailout.”

But did they?   Factcheck says only in the lamest, most symbolic way possible — after Congress had already allowed Treasury to take the funds:

By the time the Bush administration, at the request of President-elect Barack Obama, filed a request with the Senate for the rest of the money on Jan. 12, 2009, there were widespread complaints that too much of the first tranche had been used to bail out large institutions and not enough to help homeowners. The new funds could have been blocked had both houses of Congress voted to do so, but on Jan. 15, 2009, the Senate defeated a disapproval resolution, 52-42, effectively voting to release the funds. Treasury almost immediately announced it would use some of the money to shore up a deeply crippled Bank of America.

Where was the House in all this? Pretty much irrelevant. Eventually there was a similar vote in that body. Kilroy, Dahlkemper, Kratovil, Nye and Titus all voted for the disapproval resolution, and it passed, 270-155. But the vote came on Jan. 22, a week after the Senate’s vote (and two days after Obama was sworn in). Treasury already had the money.

In other words, these five — and everyone else who cast a yea or nay on the resolution — knew the vote on the unpopular program was purely symbolic.

In other other words, Nancy Pelosi held an ass-covering vote that meant absolutely nothing in order to allow Blue Dog Democrats the chance to claim they opposed the second tranche.  And they have taken advantage of it.  Each of these five Democrats face an angry electorate and want to put as much space between themselves and the bailouts, ObamaCare, and general incompetence of the past two years … even if they have to mislead to do it.  In fact, misleading voters is the only way these Democrats can do it.

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Did they vote for any of the following:

Porkulus
Omnibus
Crap-and-Betrayed
Obamacare
Jobs Bill(aka the Teachers Union Bailout)

If the answer is yes to any of those, they need to go.

Doughboy on September 3, 2010 at 4:15 PM

If the answer is yes to any of those, they need to go. Doughboy on September 3, 2010 at 4:15 PM

Except Mike Castle.

Akzed on September 3, 2010 at 4:17 PM

The Posterior Preservation Act of 2009.

Funny. That’s a good one, Ed!

DrStock on September 3, 2010 at 4:17 PM

In fact, misleading voters is the only way these Democrats can do it.

Thank-you sir, a little sunshine on an overcast day.

fourdeucer on September 3, 2010 at 4:18 PM

Except Mike Castle.

Akzed on September 3, 2010 at 4:17 PM

There you go again, lying and lying and lying.

/Allahpundit

fossten on September 3, 2010 at 4:19 PM

Doughboy on September 3, 2010 at 4:15 PM

Amen!!!

capejasmine on September 3, 2010 at 4:20 PM

In other other words, Nancy Pelosi held an ass-covering vote that meant absolutely nothing in order to allow Blue Dog Democrats the chance to claim they opposed the second tranche. And they have taken advantage of it. Each of these five Democrats face an angry electorate and want to put as much space between themselves and the bailouts, ObamaCare, and general incompetence of the past two years … even if they have to mislead to do it. In fact, misleading voters is the only way these Democrats can do it.

This, and the Spiegel write-up, make you hot, hot, hot, today, Ed, above all so right (as opposed to wrong).

Bewared of the charlatan Münchhausens on the left. They were liars in 2006 and 2008, and are trying the same tactics again.

If the U.S. American voters fall for it for a 3rd time, then they deserve full destruction.

Schadenfreude on September 3, 2010 at 4:21 PM

These are exactly the kind of weasel worded statements that should make these politicians as popular with the electorate as a turd in a punch bowl. Many folks feel like they’re victims of the biggest scam in political history as it is.
 
Here’s a thought, how ’bout we elect someone who shoots straight with the voters. If you let them start lying this early in their careers they’ll turn into pathological liars like Harry and Nancy.

ClanDerson on September 3, 2010 at 4:24 PM

Oh, so they voted for it before they voted against it?

I understand that’s very popular.

cthulhu on September 3, 2010 at 4:28 PM

Dems are all about misrepresenting themselves. If they don’t, they lose.

disa on September 3, 2010 at 4:28 PM

The Posterior Preservation Act of 2009.

Ha.

peski on September 3, 2010 at 4:28 PM

The Posterior Preservation Act of 2009.

This has to be the funnest line I have read in a long time.

antisocial on September 3, 2010 at 4:29 PM

Isn’t it a little late for Posterior Preservation?

Conservalicious on September 3, 2010 at 4:31 PM

Except Mike Castle.

Akzed on September 3, 2010 at 4:17 PM

No, he needs to be kicked out of the House as well. Of course he’s gonna get kicked right into the penthouse known as the Senate.

Doughboy on September 3, 2010 at 4:35 PM

The Dems are riding in a Clown Car

faraway on September 3, 2010 at 4:38 PM

Question from the back of the room:

When the president says his predecessor George Bush spent us into unprecedented debt, does he include in that figure the money he himself spent in this second tranche of TARP?

I know he’s a shameless liar, I’m just trying to quantify a little how deceitful he really is.

jeff_from_mpls on September 3, 2010 at 4:39 PM

What was it, 80 billion from Bush the Younger and 1 trillion from BHO? Neither are good, but umm, yeesh.

WitchDoctor on September 3, 2010 at 4:45 PM

Here they are, in all their arrogant glory, passing that fascist abomination in defiance of the American people. Who knew robbing the people blind to benefit Big Bank could be so much fun?

Where do they stand on the Afghanistan banksta bailout, I wonder?:

If we don’t bail out the Kabul Bank – the notoriously corrupt institution run by Mahmoud Karzai, brother of the Afghan “president,” which has handed out millions in “loans” to Karzai’s cronies – will the terrorists have won? Well, yes, according to Mahmoud, who demands that America “do something,” i.e. hand over lots of cash.

Khalil Frozi, another Karzai crony, and one of the two largest shareholders, said a “revolution” would occur unless the US Treasury department acted to guarantee that “everyone gets their money.”

“The arrogance of officialdom should be tempered and controlled, and assistance to foreign hands should be curtailed, lest Rome fall.”
– Marcus Tullius Cicero

“Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.”
– George Santayana

Rae on September 3, 2010 at 4:50 PM

Happy Labor Day, Nancy.

Schadenfreude on September 3, 2010 at 4:50 PM

Half the time I don’t even buy the voted against it BS anyways. We all know these pols play games where if they have enough votes on a contentious bill they want to pass they vote no knowing it will pass without them (they’d vote yes if they had to).

They are like children.

clement on September 3, 2010 at 4:50 PM

Pathetic. Right up there with the Stupak Amendment.

rockmom on September 3, 2010 at 4:51 PM

Really… Have they no shame?

My theory for the elections is that in 99% of the races the people who go to vote are those who are panicked and desperate to stop this trainwreck… I think a lot of these people are just going to pick a straight R ticket! November will be a D bloodbath…

CCRWM on September 3, 2010 at 5:02 PM

* Mary Jo Kilroy says she “voted against the bank bailout.”
* Kathy Dahlkemper says she voted “against a bailout that helped Wall Street.”
* Frank Kratovil claims to have cast his vote in opposition to “the big bank bailout.”
* Dina Titus’ ad maintains she “even voted against the bank bailout.”
* Glenn Nye’s ad tells viewers he went “against his own party” and “voted against the Wall Street bailout.”

Conservatives who live in these “Blue Dog’s” districts, or who even just subscribe to newspapers published in these pols’ respective regions, need to write letters to the editor & call local talk shows to make sure everybody else knows that Kilroy, Dahlkemper, Kratovil, Titus & Nye are trying to pull a fast one over their own constituents.

leilani on September 3, 2010 at 5:04 PM

Beef. It’s what’s for dinner.

Lying. It’s what Democrats do.

UltimateBob on September 3, 2010 at 5:13 PM

I’m confused. Are they “turds” or “terds”? Maybe both. Can anyone clarify?

Mason on September 3, 2010 at 5:42 PM

Here ya go:

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2009/roll026.xml

marinetbryant on September 3, 2010 at 5:44 PM

Let’s recount the votes including the Dems that went public with the reverse. Then repeal the legislation.

obleo on September 3, 2010 at 5:48 PM

The good new is: They can’t possibly sink any lower.

/yea, right!

obleo on September 3, 2010 at 5:54 PM

Especially since blue dog Democrats are a completely extinct animal, Pelosi and Reid only see that many sphincters to stretch and throw away come election time.

Speakup on September 3, 2010 at 5:58 PM

The saddest part is that TARP is arguably the only “crisis” management program that helped at all. The $trillion porculus bill sure didn’t. Neither did cash for clunkers or the stupid house buying credit. While I don’t agree, at least a case could be made that buying troubled assets saved us from a total collapse.

MJBrutus on September 3, 2010 at 6:00 PM

reminds me of the Reid do-overs on two main Nation killing votes – what will his claim be?

Still waiting on the Holiday Friday night dump.

seesalrun on September 3, 2010 at 6:01 PM

Here is another golden nugget on this – Nye WAS NOT IN OFFICE TO VOTE AGAINST TARP! He was elected in fall of 2008 on Obama’s coat tails, took office the beginning of January 2009. I can’t believe that his opponents campaign (no gem himself TRUST ME) has not caught this, they have a self financed army of people at that place. I noticed it the first time I heard the ad they should have been saying something about it by now, this ad has been running for weeks.

Govgirl on September 3, 2010 at 6:12 PM

The Posterior Preservation Act

Obama never heard anything controversial from Rev. Wright. Pelosi’s mob has precedence.

maverick muse on September 3, 2010 at 6:57 PM

Well, I voted for it before I voted against it is still available.

maverick muse on September 3, 2010 at 6:57 PM

This momentum MUST keep going after the November elections. The electorate can’t let their guard down. These dimwits are a lying bunch of……..

mobydutch on September 3, 2010 at 7:19 PM

I don’r pay any attention to ads anymore I do my own research for my candidates.

So far I’m batting zero, I picked two candidates here in AZ and both of them withdrew from the races, I feel like I’m at the races betting on a dead horse, the good ones probably figure it isn’t worth it or I am a jinx:):)

concernedsenior on September 3, 2010 at 8:11 PM

This article does highlight the facts that Demoncrates will say anything to show they are connected or disconnected to an idea, cause, or anything that is popular enough to get them attention, which they crave as much or more than a habitual drug user.

MSGTAS on September 4, 2010 at 10:21 AM

“Yes, I voted against TARP. After it did not really matter.”

NTxOkie on September 5, 2010 at 6:15 AM