Gunman holding people hostage in Discovery Channel building; Update: Gunman in custody, hostages safe
posted at 2:40 pm on September 1, 2010 by Allahpundit
WUSA, a local station in D.C., threw a jolt through Twitter by claiming that the guy is a nutjob on an environmental crusade and that this is his manifesto/list of demands. Now they’re saying that that’s unconfirmed. Way to toss a political hot potato into a story that may be completely unrelated, guys.
Here’s what we know, sort of:
ABC affiliate WJLA in Washington, DC is reporting that the gunman is an Asian man and may be a former Discovery employee.
“A man entered the lobby and may have fired a weapon and declared, ‘Nobody is going anywhere,’” Montgomery County police told WJLA. Witnesses said they
Police are trying to establish contact with the suspect. A person inside the building tells The Associated Press the man had something strapped to his chest and has hostages.
It was, apparently, an Asian man who wrote the manifesto, and a cop on the scene says the suspect has “concerns” about the Discovery Channel, but that’s the closest thing to “confirmation” that anyone has that it’s the same guy. I actually don’t care if it is; I’m not going to blame the actions of a nut on all lefties and environmentalists. I will, however, be sure to remind them of this the next time they pull that on the right. Which they do, merrily, at every conceivable opportunity.
Stand by for updates.
Update: NBC says the gunman has been identified as James Lee. “Lee” is the name given at the end of the manifesto. The page appears to be down since it’s getting slammed with traffic, but here’s a taste. It’s basically a long rant about overpopulation and pollution and finding solutions to global warming, etc etc. One of the nuttier parts:
Humans are the most destructive, filthy, pollutive creatures around and are wrecking what’s left of the planet with their false morals and breeding culture.
For every human born, ACRES of wildlife forests must be turned into farmland in order to feed that new addition over the course of 60 to 100 YEARS of that new human’s lifespan! THIS IS AT THE EXPENSE OF THE FOREST CREATURES!!!! All human procreation and farming must cease!
It is the responsiblity of everyone to preserve the planet they live on by not breeding any more children who will continue their filthy practices. Children represent FUTURE catastrophic pollution whereas their parents are current pollution. NO MORE BABIES! Population growth is a real crisis. Even one child born in the US will use 30 to a thousand times more resources than a Third World child. It’s like a couple are having 30 babies even though it’s just one! If the US goes in this direction maybe other countries will too!
Also, war must be halted. Not because it’s morally wrong, but because of the catastrophic environmental damage modern weapons cause to other creatures. FIND SOLUTIONS JUST LIKE THE BOOK SAYS! Humans are supposed to be inventive. INVENT, DAMN YOU!!
The world needs TV shows that DEVELOP solutions to the problems that humans are causing, not stupify the people into destroying the world. Not encouraging them to breed more environmentally harmful humans.
Saving the environment and the remaning species diversity of the planet is now your mindset. Nothing is more important than saving them. The Lions, Tigers, Giraffes, Elephants, Froggies, Turtles, Apes, Raccoons, Beetles, Ants, Sharks, Bears, and, of course, the Squirrels.
Update: TMZ says it’s the same guy and has a PDF version of more of his rantings about global warming, animal extinction, etc.
Update: Here’s Lee’s MySpace page, which apparently hasn’t been updated in a few years. Note the references to Daniel Quinn, who’s also mentioned at the beginning of the manifesto.
Update: Via MKH, some relevant message-board postings from Lee. He’s been working up to the point of going off for awhile, it seems:
Discovery is the enemy. They must be protested into saving the planet and reducing their propaganda. But if you feel that this is wrong, then don’t show up. You’re welcome to stay at home and watch TV or do whatever it is you do.
And if I look like an idiot, so what? But I won’t fail in this. This is going to happen and Discovery is going to change their course and start saving the planet. I will never personally feel like an idiot for trying.
Update: How nutty is he?
At the time of his conviction in March 2008, Lee was identified as a 40-year-old man from San Diego. Court records said he was arrested Feb. 21, 2008, on the sixth day of a protest at the Discovery building. Police were called when a crowd that had gathered began growing “unruly” as Lee threw thousands of dollars of cash into the air, some of it still in shrink-wrapped packages, police said at the time.
Update: Enjoy this tweet from lefty blogger Atrios because, like I say, the narrative shall be a-changin’ the next time some nut on the right does something nutty.
Update: Speaking of lefty bloggers, Think Progress blames Lee’s madness partly on rhetoric from … groups opposed to illegal immigration. Even liberal Adam Serwer of the American Prospect is embarrassed by their post.
Update: A bad day ends on a good note:
Suspect in Discovery Channel standoff shot and in custody; all three hostages are safe, police chief says.
That’s all CNN has right now, but keep trying that link. Updates should be coming momentarily.
Update: The shots were fatal. Lee is dead.
Update: Max Fisher of the Atlantic somehow read this post to mean that I think (a) Lee was a liberal and (b) because liberals relentlessly politicize “lone nut” incidents involving right-wingers, conservatives should do the same to them. (His tagline in summarizing this post at the Atlantic is “Hang This Attack Around Liberals’ Necks.”) On the first point, I don’t know if Lee was a down-the-line doctrinaire liberal or not; my point was simply that the green concerns that motivated him are typically identified with the left and therefore many people will conclude that he’s some species of liberal. By the same token, when someone bombs an abortion clinic, no one waits to find out the bomber’s opinion on, say, Iraq and federal spending before identifying him with the right. It’s the motive that defines the suspect politically in incidents like these. As for the second point — and I’m frankly amazed that anyone might have misunderstood it — what I’m saying is that liberals and environmentalists shouldn’t be blamed for this. Don’t politicize the incident by hanging the actions of a lunatic around their neck. What I meant up top about reminding them of this the next time they politicize something done by a right-wing nut was merely how this proves that there are crazies of all stripes and that I didn’t try to score a cheap political point against them today when the opportunity presented itself. Is this really that complicated?
The boss emeritus puts it more clearly than I can, apparently:
The gunman was reportedly motivated by Al Gore’s Inconvenient Truth eco-propaganda. Guess what? I’m not playing that opportunistic blame game here. It’s not Al Gore’s fault when an enviro-nut goes off unhinged (and I’ve said that before). The blame in this case lies with the crazy man who terrorized the Discovery Channel employees. Period.









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Logical outworking of the secular humanist worldview.
Inanemergencydial on September 1, 2010 at 5:25 PM
Ace just tweeted
William Amos on September 1, 2010 at 5:25 PM
Congrats to law enforcement for some nice shooting and a safe rescue of the hostages.
I bet that this gives Contessa Brewer a case of the vapors.
molonlabe28 on September 1, 2010 at 5:25 PM
Worm food.
ICBM on September 1, 2010 at 5:26 PM
Get ready for a DoJ lawsuit since the suspect shot is Asian.
Oh, yeah. I went there.
madmonkphotog on September 1, 2010 at 5:26 PM
Obama 2012: Hope, Change, and of course….the squirrels.
Good Solid B-Plus on September 1, 2010 at 5:27 PM
funny farm?
Dark-Star on September 1, 2010 at 5:22 PM
will the farm allow visits from his friends the beaver and the otter?
unseen on September 1, 2010 at 5:28 PM
Yes, thank you. My point is, I’m surprised Fox News went to Glenn Beck as the press conference was going on. I know he’s good for ratings, but it is a news network.
YYZ on September 1, 2010 at 5:28 PM
Well, he did his part to eliminate one human parasite from the earth.
Mark1971 on September 1, 2010 at 5:29 PM
Sarah Palin wants to kill squirrels? OMG
faraway on September 1, 2010 at 5:29 PM
WUSA just reported Lee is dead.
rockmom on September 1, 2010 at 5:30 PM
Sarah hunts Moose. Huck eats Squirrels. Mitt eats fine dinning.
William Amos on September 1, 2010 at 5:31 PM
Now the Left can openly protest the police.
Lance Murdock on September 1, 2010 at 5:32 PM
I blame the movie Bambi for all of this.
unseen on September 1, 2010 at 5:32 PM
Squirrels all over the world will hold their nuts a little tighter tonight.
faraway on September 1, 2010 at 5:32 PM
His myspace page shows him as online. I guess that’s the investigators, since he obviously isn’t.
pannw on September 1, 2010 at 5:32 PM
but just be glad that when this guy was watching Bambi as a child the police were watching Old Yeller.
unseen on September 1, 2010 at 5:33 PM
All the wacko environmental alarms probably drove this poor guy insane.
blink on September 1, 2010 at 5:33 PM
Squirrels all over the world will hold their nuts a little tighter tonight.
faraway on September 1, 2010 at 5:32 PM
lol
unseen on September 1, 2010 at 5:35 PM
facebook – SWAT has poked Lee
faraway on September 1, 2010 at 5:35 PM
Did the spokesman give anymore information?
Cindy Munford on September 1, 2010 at 5:35 PM
How many people have to die in the name of religion?
Uhh… I mean environmentalism?
TruthMatters on September 1, 2010 at 5:36 PM
I thought that the minute the police spokesman struggled with how much information he was going to give.
Cindy Munford on September 1, 2010 at 5:36 PM
only that he was shot. didn’t say ‘dead’ or ‘killed’.
jimver on September 1, 2010 at 5:36 PM
Whoopie: “Is he dead-dead?”
faraway on September 1, 2010 at 5:37 PM
And that’s why you don’t rent Avatar while on medication!
abobo on September 1, 2010 at 5:38 PM
I’m surprised the guy is anti-war. If he doesn’t like “filthy humans” I’d think he’d want them killing one another off.
Jill1066 on September 1, 2010 at 5:38 PM
Well, for example, when he spoke Lee was not dead. Fox did a great job covering this story all afternoon. They should have bumped the first half of Beck’s show to do some more live reporting.
YYZ on September 1, 2010 at 5:38 PM
One less person for Edstock
faraway on September 1, 2010 at 5:39 PM
Ace of Spades on Twitter:
Awesomeness.
amerpundit on September 1, 2010 at 5:39 PM
Heh.
Jaibones on September 1, 2010 at 5:40 PM
The bomber has reached room temperature.
Jaibones on September 1, 2010 at 5:40 PM
Are they now saying he is dead? I am sure the world could have lived without Beck for a day. I just assumed there was nothing new to add.
Cindy Munford on September 1, 2010 at 5:41 PM
Bumpersticker idea: Save The Whales And Of Course The Squirrels!
Christien on September 1, 2010 at 5:46 PM
but then that’s just one of the contradictions that a Liberal mind has to grapple day in and day out :-) only they don’t call it ‘contradiction’ but ‘complexity’ :-)
jimver on September 1, 2010 at 5:46 PM
agree, however, that doesn’t stop the msm from doing it…
cmsinaz on September 1, 2010 at 5:48 PM
Interesting. No one knows if he’s alive or dead. If that doesn’t describe a typical lefty, nothing does. Scary-oooooh……
joejm65 on September 1, 2010 at 5:48 PM
He’s toast.
Rambotito on September 1, 2010 at 5:49 PM
His last request was to play Brown Eyed Squirrel by Van Morrison at his funeral.
faraway on September 1, 2010 at 5:50 PM
Ace’s tribute to James Lee
http://twitter.com/AceofSpadesHQ
William Amos on September 1, 2010 at 5:50 PM
Fox headline is ‘gunman shot and taken in custody’ and Drudge has ‘police kill eco-terrorist…’ so, echoing a post on this forum, is he dead-dead?
jimver on September 1, 2010 at 5:50 PM
However, he is still eligible to vote in Chicago.
kingsjester on September 1, 2010 at 5:52 PM
Obviously this guy isn’t representative of the Left but good grief how long did they keep alive the rumor of that poor guy that committed suicide was murdered by a rightwing nut?
Cindy Munford on September 1, 2010 at 5:53 PM
that means he’s dead-dead.
jimver on September 1, 2010 at 5:53 PM
the MSM is utterly and miserably so pathetic.
moonbatkiller on September 1, 2010 at 5:56 PM
It’s because people who do not understand – never, ever, use common sense.
Simple as that.
tru2tx on September 1, 2010 at 5:59 PM
EPA: “We told you right-wingers that lead was dangerous”
faraway on September 1, 2010 at 6:01 PM
interesting, the no 7 in his manifesto…hmmm, Holdren based most of his infamous book on Malthus’s overppulation theories too. Needless to say that Malthus’s theories have proved wrong.
‘Develop shows that mention the Malthusian sciences about how food production leads to the overpopulation of the Human race. Talk about Evolution. Talk about Malthus and Darwin until it sinks into the stupid people’s brains until they get it!!’
jimver on September 1, 2010 at 6:03 PM
Sad, but at least the planet and squirrels will be spared his waste of forest acreage and CO2 emissions.
HellCat on September 1, 2010 at 6:03 PM
If that guy ever got squirrels in his attic he would be so darn sympathetic.
Cindy Munford on September 1, 2010 at 6:12 PM
and I’m frankly amazed that anyone might have misunderstood it — what I’m saying is that liberals and environmentalists shouldn’t be blamed for this. Don’t politicize the incident by hanging the actions of a lunatic around their neck.
It’s because people who do not understand – never, ever, use common sense.
Simple as that.
tru2tx on September 1, 2010 at 5:59 PM
the reason liberals and environmentalists should be blamed for this is because this guy is the end result of their thinking. It is the thinking that produces gulags, and re-education camps, gas chambers,and killing fields. The thinking that makes abortion cheap and easy killing millions of humans.
yes this bomber is a product of liberalsism and environmentalism and I say that using logic and history as a guide as well as common sense and observed results of leftist policies.
This guy would be at home at any greenpeace meeting, any Peta meeting, any codepink meeting. He is one of them. Deny it if you can but for every Lee I can point to thousands of others that have simply not taken that final step down their logic path but they will/they must sooner or later. Many will do a Lee but many will throw themselves into programs who’s end result will kill thousands and millions of people.
DDT ban
Snail Darter
global warming
Lead ammuntion ban
Abortion on demand
Dr death visits
ethonal
oil drilling bans
non permiting pof coal mines..
etc etc
unseen on September 1, 2010 at 6:12 PM
You and me baby ain’t nothing but mammals, so let’s do it like they do it on the Discovery Channel…
I like that environmental-inspired manifesto much better. )))
Mister Ghost on September 1, 2010 at 6:18 PM
lol, poor bugger – it’s no wonder he became unhinged after watching al-Gores inconvenient lie. . . .
karra on September 1, 2010 at 6:21 PM
I think his extermination is ironic seeing that he considered humans to be parasites feeding on and killing mother earth.
His will probably states that he be mulched rather than buried or cremated. Mother earth will be happy.
Rod on September 1, 2010 at 6:22 PM
No, he was mad at Discovery because they gave Sarah Palin a show.
Which means it’s all her fault!
Del Dolemonte on September 1, 2010 at 6:24 PM
Well, that leaves a few more acres for the rest of us filthy polluters.
ronsfi on September 1, 2010 at 6:25 PM
Hell I’ll say it the guy is a LEFTIST environut period. Don’t play “fairness” games with the left.They’re in it to win and will use your nobly motivated weakness to pound you.
Tit for Tat. Destroy them.
Dr. Carlo Lombardi on September 1, 2010 at 6:28 PM
Pretty safe bet he had squirrels in his attic.
Aviator on September 1, 2010 at 6:29 PM
Yes he is. And he’s now a martyr and hero to many. In fact, you can expect to see his face on bright red t-shirts at the Oct. 2nd rally. Right along side Che’s.
Rod on September 1, 2010 at 6:36 PM
How long before we see some leftist dim bulb blog something like,
“Lee may have been a nut, but he had a point…”?
I say this because a stray thought I had yesterday was eerily reministant to today’s events and it makes me realize the leftist loonary knows no bounds.
I forget what it was I was reading, but it was in regards to the EPA and I wondered too myself, “How long before the EPA declares humanity a Class I pollutant?” And then we get Mr. Lee here today…
I am afraid that, despite Mr. Lee obviously being mentally deranged, unimaginative and moronic leftists of one sort or another will decide that this is somehow a wake up call for environmental action.
“Mr. Lee may have been wrong in his methods, but he was right about the problem.”
NotCoach on September 1, 2010 at 6:40 PM
Hussein Louie holding people hostage in America; Update: Hussein Louie still not in custody, hostages still not safe
Tav on September 1, 2010 at 6:41 PM
Allah, evidently it is for liberals like Max. Try to simplify in the future.
GarandFan on September 1, 2010 at 6:42 PM
LOL! I thought when I typed it that I should probably qualify the remark.
Cindy Munford on September 1, 2010 at 6:47 PM
Al Gore is clearly culpable, your protestations to the contrary or not.
Tav on September 1, 2010 at 6:48 PM
Out of very idle curiosity, how do you read the above sentence and come to the exact opposite understanding of its meaning?
Maybe it was the “NOT going to blame” part that was too vague?
Sheesh. Reading comprehension is fun for everybody, folks. Even overly defensive liberals.
————–
Okay, NOW can we talk about The Squirrels?
Professor Blather on September 1, 2010 at 6:51 PM
Mr. Lee was not born an radical environmentalist…
… He was made that way.
Seven Percent Solution on September 1, 2010 at 6:58 PM
Strangely enough I happened to catch a vintage episode of “Seinfeld” last night, where Costanza swerves to avoid hitting a pigeon with his car, and hits a squirrel instead. His Leftist tree-hugger girlfriend de jour, who was in the car with him, demanded that he take it to the vet to be treated. The vet took George to the cleaners, including having to have “tiny tools” shipped in so he could operate. Comedy Gold, Jerry!
Del Dolemonte on September 1, 2010 at 6:59 PM
Okay…for arguments sake….let’s say James Lee does not represent all of the left.
But there sure is a pattern of violence coming from people who share the left’s ideology:
Lee Harvey Oswald: Shot President John F. Kennedy
Bill Ayers/Bernardine Dohrn:Weather underground domestic terrorist.Bombed Federal buildings and their group was responsible for the death of a policeman.
Called Charles Manson a “tuned in dude”.
Prosecutor: Couple’s crimes related to cult
Posted: Today at 2:04 p.m.
Updated: 28 minutes ago
Former talk show host sentenced to more than seven years in prison
By Howard Mintz
Mercury News
Only Indicted Militia Member With Party Affiliation Is… a Democrat
Stunner. Al-Qaeda Killer Who Shot His Way Out of Hospital Is Former Dem Operative
Thursday, March 11, 2010, 12:02 PM
Jim Hoft
Socialist Professor Amy Bishop Who Killed 3 Profs Yesterday Shot & Killed Her Brother in 1986 …UPDATE: Dem Rep. Delahunt Made Call to Release Bishop in 1986!
About the Pentagon shooter; Update: Stop playing games, MSM. John Patrick Bedell was a registered Democrat
By Michelle Malkin • March 5, 2010 10:14 AM
The beating of Kenneth Gladney by democratic union workers in St.Louis…..
Handicapped Woman Cries After Assault By Union Thugs at Town Hall (Video) … Update: Woman Speaks Out on Being Stomped On
Healthcare-reform opponent says bit-off finger could not be re-attached
Lila Rose assaulted by Planned Parenthood escort
Pro-life demonstrator murdered at Michigan high school; Update: Motive confirmed
Mrs. Malkin has even more breakdowns of the violence and hate coming from the left.
http://michellemalkin.com/category/unhinged/
Of course you cannot paint an entire group because of the actions coming from a few…..but that does not negate the fact that there is an obvious pattern and acceptance of violence coming from the base of the democratic party.
A lot of these incidents were happening while the Secretary of Homeland Security was issuing a report warning of “Right Wing Violence”…….violence we have yet to see materialize.
We are also bombarded with daily insults and slander accusing Americans that disagree with Obama’s policies as “racist”…”right wing militants”…”nazis”…and now we are even compared to “Al-qaeda”.
….yet the left has not been able to verify or substantiate any of these baseless allegations beyond showing pictures of a sign picked out of a crowd of thousands.
Liberals have and are using violence and propaganda to push their agenda.They have revealed themselves as capable of hateful bigotry when confronting people they don’t agree with and endorsing the “any means necessary” when trying to shut down their political opponents.
James Lee is just one more in a long line of leftist that are perfectly fine with committing violent acts in the defense of their “peaceful” ideology.
Baxter Greene on September 1, 2010 at 7:00 PM
Nah, Asian’s aren’t considered a minority minority. They might as well be white as far as the bean-counters are concerned.
holygoat on September 1, 2010 at 7:01 PM
I just read USA Today’s on-line story — 22 paragraphs and not a single mention of motives. About a third of the way through they say only that he “had a history” of protesting Discovery Network. I expect there will no follow-up or details about this “history” except in muddled and general psychological terms.
If he were a deranged nativist or Baptist or tea-partier, the in-depth and implicating “analyses” would just be starting, the machinery of extrapolation and smear-by-association getting ready for a 30- to 60-day non-stop news cycle.
rrpjr on September 1, 2010 at 7:04 PM
This is the fault of Obama and every liberal in the country.
Hey, the left made the rules, they can’t change them in mid game. I want an Obama apology tour/bowing marathon for this as penance.
Darth Executor on September 1, 2010 at 7:06 PM
His manifesto is straight out of John Holdren and Paul Ehrlich.
Buy Danish on September 1, 2010 at 7:08 PM
I say we hold AlGore to the same standard the Left holds Bernie Golberg. I bet suddenly the argument will become “You can’t blame Gore for some nutz violence.”
Sharr on September 1, 2010 at 7:09 PM
Al Gore preyed on his fears and it cost him his life.
viking01 on September 1, 2010 at 7:12 PM
Good point, but on meds/off meds?
Al Gores “an inconvenient truth” was his movie.
And Al Gore said the other day
Not saying Gore’s words drove this guy, just saying?
DSchoen on September 1, 2010 at 7:23 PM
What are you,a ghoul? Quit whining.
katy the mean old lady on September 1, 2010 at 7:23 PM
Not all violence is the result of insanity. Some is calculated for effect in a rational way, i.e. suicide bombings. In those cases, some goal is given a higher value than life. This is certainly not normal, but it’s also not necessarily insane. In cases where the killer’s (or would be killer’s) actions flow rationally from their beliefs, it should be fair to point out that ideas do have consequences.
This appears to be one of those cases.
John on September 1, 2010 at 7:35 PM
Al Gore probably had a carbon credit policy taken out on the guy last month.
Tav on September 1, 2010 at 7:35 PM
I want to hear what Tad Kaczynski has to say about this. Unabomber Ted had a copy of Al Gore’s “Earth in the Balance” book in his plywood nut hut out in the woods so he’s certainly qualified to count on whacko inspiration by Gorebull Warming.
Hollyweird can tack on a special mention / merit award for Gore at the next ceremony now that he’s now helped encourage not only the Unabomber but also a hostage taker.
viking01 on September 1, 2010 at 7:38 PM
They found out it was a snail darter and a spotted owl he had strapped to his chest.
viking01 on September 1, 2010 at 7:44 PM
I’m kind of partial to calling this guy “The Squirrel Bomber.” Because he did it for the
ChilllldrennnnSquirrels.cobrakai99 on September 1, 2010 at 7:48 PM
Ignorant, creepy, bigoted moron!
MJBrutus on September 1, 2010 at 7:56 PM
Channel 6 news in Omaha reported that Lee was “someone who was unhappy with the programming.”
O.M.F.G.
We would never know the truth of anything if it was not for independent news sources like Hot Air or others like them.
rollthedice on September 1, 2010 at 7:58 PM
Wait. . . wait. . . I have to call BS at this point. This is some bizarre reality show gone horribly, horribly wrong, right?
Just how long did the producers leave him off his meds?
Jason Coleman on September 1, 2010 at 8:00 PM
Al Gore leads to ReAl Gore.
profitsbeard on September 1, 2010 at 8:06 PM
Thank goodness for Drudge. :
petefrt on September 1, 2010 at 8:07 PM
MSNBC may want to consider installing concrete barriers to keep their viewers away.
viking01 on September 1, 2010 at 8:11 PM
Interesting that he did not seem to grasp that Malthus’s argument was not that food production leads to more humans, its that more humans will outrun out capacity to produce more food. Which is wrong, but becomes a really, really dumb argument when you argue it the way he does in his declaration.
Sharr on September 1, 2010 at 8:25 PM
No, but ‘they’ couldn’t care less. Yes, they will blame the right on any and every act of violence that ever occurs, regardless of whether it was a lefty, anarchist or libertarian…they’ll do everything they can to pin it on us. The pattern is so clear that claiming the high ground in this case is meaningless. There is no high ground on the left, except that which advances their agenda.
You are outsmarting yourself Allah and people who follow that path are the reason the left will win every time.
AUINSC on September 1, 2010 at 8:26 PM
He became an hero for the froggies…and of course, the Squirrels!
Sekhmet on September 1, 2010 at 8:27 PM
While we can’t blame Al Gore or the environmental movement for this nut’s crimes, what we can say is that in America, violent nuts, most of the time, come from the political left. Actually, almost exclusively. Leftists can’t win the arguments, so they become frustrated, as Lee was, and lash out.
keep the change on September 1, 2010 at 8:36 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGOyF5dNzAU
found! Guys like lee chasing squirrels.
ted c on September 1, 2010 at 8:38 PM
High praise, thanks!
Inanemergencydial on September 1, 2010 at 8:39 PM
Each of us fights the way we think is most effective. AP’s stance and MM’s is not mine, but it’s probably the better approach for those of us they represent in the way they have decided to represent us.
As for me, I have no constituency, no blog with a reputation to maintain, only my own rep to think about, so my bet is that whatever position Breitbart takes on this, I’ll take that one too.
The left has made this an Alinsky fight, and AB is the best Alinsky fighter I know.
In Alinsky fights, the high road is usually the loser. (Though nonetheless we need High Roaders to back us up, to come in after the shooting is over.) And I, for one, won’t balk at using their tactics against them.
petefrt on September 1, 2010 at 8:40 PM
I am seriously fighting guilt because I have been making fun of this obviously deranged man and now he’s dead. This is my confession… I’m hoping it will bring back my sense of hilarity over the Squirrels and the Froggies…
He actually looks a little like my adopted son. Poor man what a nightmare life he must of had inside that head.
Okay but Squirrels?!
petunia on September 1, 2010 at 8:48 PM
:-) I was thinking the same thing, like for instance when the LSM talks about a ‘predominantly white crowd’ in describing Beck’s rally, do they count the Asians as white?…not that it matters…just curious what constitutes a minority-minority for LSM? other than the African Americans of course…
jimver on September 1, 2010 at 9:01 PM
Oh, they’ll find a way to blame Beck and Palin for this. Bank on it.
ddrintn on September 1, 2010 at 9:04 PM
The reactions to this incident remind me of the flip-flopping standards phenom, as written about a couple of days ago here: Setting the Bar Low, Setting the Bar High
slickwillie2001 on September 1, 2010 at 9:13 PM
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