Good news: Illegal immigration declines to only several hundred thousand per year

posted at 8:46 pm on September 1, 2010 by Allahpundit

It really is good news, but I’m seeing people linking/tweeting it as evidence that the great wingnut noise machine has once again hyped an issue that practically doesn’t. even. exist. Simple question: Notwithstanding the fact that deportations are way up under Obama’s administration, does anyone seriously expect the trend in lower illegal immigration to continue if/when the economy finally comes back? Illegals are no more recession-proof than anyone else; if the jobs ain’t here (especially construction jobs), there’s less reason to come. When the jobs return, so will they.

Note the hard numbers, too. We’re talking about the difference between absorbing a population the size of South Dakota’s and a population that’s “only” half the size of Wyoming’s each and every year. It’s an improvement, but I dare say that border isn’t secure just yet.

Between 2000 and 2005, an average of 850,000 people a year entered the United States without authorization, according to the report released Wednesday. As the economy plunged into recession between 2007 and 2009, that number fell to 300,000…

The unemployment rate for unauthorized immigrants is 10.4 percent higher than that of either U.S.-born residents or legal immigrants, the Pew report said.

Massey said other likely reasons for the decline include an increase in law enforcement and deportations, and enactment of stricter legislation against illegal immigrants. He also pointed to more guest-worker spots, from 104,000 in 2000 to 302,000 in 2009 — allowing more immigrants to come to the United States legally…

The report’s findings were hailed by Mark Krikorian, director of the Center for Immigration Studies, which advocates tighter immigration controls.

The figures contradict “the idea that the only options before us are mass expulsions or mass amnesty,” he said. “This finding points to the middle way, of a consistent decrease of the illegal population over time through enforcement.”

Does it, though? Despite the worst economic climate in 75 years, the Times notes that the total population of illegals is actually amazingly stable — down just eight percent since 2007 despite the gruesome hiring situation nationwide. Ratcheting up penalties on employers for hiring illegals can drive that number higher, but if we can’t police the border well enough to stop an inflow of slightly less than a thousand people per day, how likely is it that we’ll ever police businesses comprehensively enough to make a major dent in that number? Just another reason to expect some sort of amnesty deal before Election 2012. It’s coming. I can feel it.


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still WAY too much

clnurnberg on September 1, 2010 at 8:48 PM

The unemployment rate may have something to do with this.

darwin-t on September 1, 2010 at 8:48 PM

the fact that deportations are way up

Doesn’t matter with a Swiss-cheese border. “Better luck next time!”

ddrintn on September 1, 2010 at 8:48 PM

NO amnesty, time to stop services.

clnurnberg on September 1, 2010 at 8:49 PM

Bad economy + popularity of Arizona-style laws = less immigration.

This is neither rocket surgery nor brain science

Sekhmet on September 1, 2010 at 8:49 PM

Yeah, that’s because we now have a third-world economy.

abobo on September 1, 2010 at 8:49 PM

Just another reason to expect some sort of amnesty deal before Election 2012. It’s coming. I can feel it.

Only if it’s some sort of EPA-style back-door foolishness.

ddrintn on September 1, 2010 at 8:50 PM

Something bold and credible before November.

Skandia Recluse on September 1, 2010 at 8:52 PM

Yeah, that’s because we now have a third-world economy.

abobo on September 1, 2010 at 8:49 PM

yep why travel when you can have the same thing at home

CWforFreedom on September 1, 2010 at 8:52 PM

Nice…but USCIS is cracking down on legal immigration at the moment…the backlog is now 5+ months in the first stage and they are screening initial processing like the IRS (i.e., you forgot to put None instead of N/A on in this field, which we didn’t even bother to explain to you, so your form is rejected and you can go pound sand). Legal immigrant candidates are being abused as never before right now…2010 is the worst year ever on wait times.

Thanks Obama!

AUINSC on September 1, 2010 at 8:52 PM

I do love how they want to use Bush as the standard…laughable.

CWforFreedom on September 1, 2010 at 8:53 PM

This Royal family has done well in turning people off when they think about coming here.

seven on September 1, 2010 at 8:54 PM

US Border Patrol agents seen hand-stamping illegal aliens as they cross back into Mexico. BP spokesman said “It’s like the hand stamp you get when you leave the bar or Disney World…so you can come back in without having to pay admission twice”

BobMbx on September 1, 2010 at 8:56 PM

The WaPo story seems to be “projecting” deportations on the claim of John Morton. Also, these “deportations” are either forcefully or by request. WaPo doesn’t offer the percentages of each, and apparently believes that every illegal told to leave -actually does so.

Maybe I missed something, but the facts don’t seem to be steadfast.

BKeyser on September 1, 2010 at 8:58 PM

If I have a rodent infestation, I can:

A.) Place traps
B.) Let them root
C.) Block the Entry
D.) Pretend they are beneficial
E.) Allow them access to my money

Ugly on September 1, 2010 at 9:00 PM

Good news: Illegal immigration declines to only several hundred thousand per year
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Well,its only matter of time before it stops then!!(sarc).

canopfor on September 1, 2010 at 9:07 PM

Too bad it wasn’t the actual population of North Dakota that was coming in.

keep the change on September 1, 2010 at 9:08 PM

I do not believe them for an instant. Dept of Injustice and Dept of homeland Insecurity. Lower numbers, safe border, more deports, hah! We have more aliens who do not speak English at a constant increase here in the midwest. Deport more? Yeah – some as many as 8 or more times? How did we get to such a state? ICE no longer deports? Well, deportation means nothing anyway. Seal that border! Let Sheriff Joe handle things – he is economical. Bambi and Hillary complain to UN about Arizona and give UN rights within America? Brazen, aren’t they? Nuts. Democrats are not Americans. Not sure what they are. Rinos are not either. I am disgusted with the current corrupt system and wish they would all be gone soon. Palin, Beck, and tea parties are our hopes.

MoGal on September 1, 2010 at 9:16 PM

Oh, no, it’s not. Not in the sanctuary city of Chicago … which may have to cut many city services ’cause the Daley Family Crime Syndicate has to make up a $655+ million budget shortfall. The New Coke is supposed to be, like, magic, man. Just a warning to tourists- Chicago has the highest city per day taxes of any city in the whole nation and don’t necessarily expect to get out alive either. Things that should make ya go hummmmmm……….

MayorDaley on September 1, 2010 at 9:17 PM

This is neither rocket surgery nor brain science

Sekhmet on September 1, 2010 at 8:49 PM

Sekhmet: Me likey,witty,hehe!!:)

canopfor on September 1, 2010 at 9:19 PM

Just another reason to expect some sort of amnesty deal before Election 2012. It’s coming. I can feel it.
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Liberal legal and illegal voter drive,com’n up!!

Lets see,immigration is down,or its fuzzy GaffeBiden Math,
and yet,inexplicable,there are more voters,voting Liberal
then,there are American voters!!

Who knew!!(sarc).

canopfor on September 1, 2010 at 9:24 PM

Build the damn wall…

d1carter on September 1, 2010 at 9:29 PM

And here all this time government “experts” said we could NEVER stem the tide. Isn’t it amazing what just half-assed enforcement gets you? Imagine what would happen if Dear Leader and his cronies got completely behind it!

GarandFan on September 1, 2010 at 9:31 PM

No way. This report is being propped up to :
1. .. get the groundwork done to keep the border with mexico open,and never get border-fence any funding, since there is no problem anymore which needs to be solved

2. …start amnesty before the elections because this report makes it look as if the illegal alien invasion problem has been controlled.

Its a lie but it makes this regime look well….in control of the crisis

macncheez on September 1, 2010 at 9:36 PM

Build the damn wall…

d1carter on September 1, 2010 at 9:29 PM

d1carter: And a moat!!:)

canopfor on September 1, 2010 at 9:39 PM

Illegals are no more recession-proof than anyone else; if the jobs ain’t here (especially construction jobs), there’s less reason to come.

I never thought about it like that before.

So you’re saying Obama’s economic policy is actually a plan to secure the borders?

malclave on September 1, 2010 at 9:53 PM

It’s great news that there’s only a few hundred thousand a year comming here illeagally. This country has lost it’s damn mind.

wheelgun on September 1, 2010 at 9:55 PM

Sorry, I have a stuttering problem.

wheelgun on September 1, 2010 at 9:57 PM

Between 2000 and 2005, an average of 850,000 people a year entered the United States without authorization, according to the report released Wednesday. As the economy plunged into recession between 2007 and 2009, that number fell to 300,000…

To say that’s 300,000 too many still understates it, because that’s just ‘new’ influx. We need to *stop* that, *and* get the previous gazillions out as well. What we need here is a ‘net negative’ flow of illegals. For a *long* time.

Midas on September 1, 2010 at 11:35 PM

I’m sorry, but how do you take a survey of how many illegals are in the country? Does someone call a person up, ask them if they’re in the country illegally and they say “yes”?

ButterflyDragon on September 2, 2010 at 12:15 AM

The figures contradict “the idea that the only options before us are mass expulsions or mass amnesty,”

Thank God! We FINALLY have an explanation as to WHY Barack Hussein Obama drove us into the highest debt ever known! He did it to get illegals to mass deport! And here we stupid people thought he liked illegals.

katablog.com on September 2, 2010 at 12:18 AM

So you’re saying Obama’s economic policy is actually a plan to secure the borders?

malclave on September 1, 2010 at 9:53 PM

EXACTLY. We should have trusted him more.

katablog.com on September 2, 2010 at 12:19 AM

this report makes it look as if the illegal alien invasion problem has been controlled.

ONLY 300,000 NEW illegals per year looks like control?

katablog.com on September 2, 2010 at 12:20 AM

GREAT NEWS!
Couple this with 1 in 8 births are anchor babies , the high un employment by these Mexican terrorists , and we will not have to worry about Obama and Pelosi’s trillion dollar deficits we will succumb to MONTEZUMA’s revenge long before then

ELMO Q on September 2, 2010 at 12:20 AM

Build the damn wall…

d1carter on September 1, 2010 at 9:29 PM

d1carter: And a moat!!:)

canopfor on September 1, 2010 at 9:39 PM

Don’t forget the alligators.

agmartin on September 2, 2010 at 1:32 AM

Just don’t hire them, they will go …

tarpon on September 2, 2010 at 7:34 AM

We spend TRILLIONS on this government and it can’t even complete a basic task like securing the border, because it’s “distracted” by millions of idiotic, counterproductive nonsense it has no business with.

This is why the scope of government needs to be scaled back, so the government can concentrate on and actually perform its core mission.

Even people who are pro-government should be able to agree on that, if they are intellectually honest.

NoDonkey on September 2, 2010 at 8:00 AM

(1) Cut services — require either a green card or passport or certified birth certificate before social services can be provided.
(2) Require employer verification of green card or citizenship status for employment with a $10K fine per illegal worker — hire 100K unemployed people as “job auditors” to check on employers.
(3) Provide free one way bus tickets from a major city in each state to Mexico city — no questions asked. (Yes, some people will use that to cut the costs of their vacations — let it slide.)

So — if they can’t find work, and can’t get social services, and have a free ride home — they will leave on their own.

SunSword on September 2, 2010 at 8:03 AM

Jose: “Hey, Pedro man, are you going to the United States? We can jump the wall right over there.”

Pedro: “Are you loco man? They got a Communist President and there’s no more work because he killed the middle class. Let’s go to Cuba, I heard there’s a lot more freedom over there lately.”

adamsmith on September 2, 2010 at 9:17 AM

Yeah sure….a trickle….

CynicalOptimist on September 2, 2010 at 10:15 AM

Always question the source of data used by the left use to create and impression that their programs are successful.

MSGTAS on September 2, 2010 at 10:18 AM

GREAT NEWS !!!, if only 1% of these border breechers are radical Islamic terrorist , then we only have 3,000 new terrorists coming into our country un checked each year .
Big SIS is right if 900,000 were still coming across the border it would yield 9,000 terrorists.
Also , the economic impact…. a nice pair of GEN 4 night vision goggles are 5,000 and up , Elcan and other thermal imaging devices at $10,000 and up . Not to mention the 12% of the weapons they buy here , or the scramblers , jammers ,and SAT radios the Cartels buy here in America and use to aid the smugglers and coyotes infiltrate our country .
No wonder congress is aware we have hi tech paramilitary operatives on the payroll of the Mexican cartels operating in the AZ hills and has done NOTHING about it .
This is producing much more economic stimulus than the 787 Billion plan they extorted from the American people

ELMO Q on September 2, 2010 at 2:28 PM