ADP estimates net loss of 10,000 private-sector jobs
posted at 1:45 pm on September 1, 2010 by Ed Morrissey
Private payroll-processing giant ADP estimates job growth outside of the public sector every month, usually a day or two before the Bureau of Labor Statistics issues the unemployment estimate for the previous month. For the first time in six months, ADP reports a net loss of jobs, estimating that the US has 10,000 fewer private-sector jobs than in July. They also predict that BLS, which has to account for the dismissal of Census Bureau employees, will issue a report that looks even worse:
Private sector employment decreased by 10,000 from July to August on a seasonally adjusted basis, according to the latest ADP National Employment Report® released today. The estimated change of employment from June to July was revised down slightly, from the previously reported increase of 42,000 to an increase of 37,000.
The decline in private employment in August confirms a pause in the recovery already evident in other economic data. The deceleration in employment was evident in the major sectors and by size of business. This month’s decline in employment followed six monthly increases from February through July. Over those six months the average monthly gain in employment was 37,000 with no evidence of acceleration.
Unlike the estimate of total establishment employment to be released on Friday by the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS), today’s figure does not include the effects of federal hiring — and now firing — for the 2010 Census. Hiring for the census peaked in May. For this reason, Friday’s figure for the change in nonfarm total employment reported by the BLS might be weaker than today’s estimate for nonfarm private employment in the ADP National Employment Report.
Augusts’ ADP Report estimates nonfarm private employment in the service-providing sector rose by 30,000, the seventh consecutive monthly gain. This increase was not enough to offset an employment decline in the goods-producing sector of 40,000. Employment in the manufacturing sector decreased 6,000, the second consecutive monthly decline.
Reuters, of course, didn’t see this coming and used their favorite adverb. They also see bad news coming on Friday:
The U.S. manufacturing sector grew faster than expected in August but private employers unexpectedly cut jobs, showing the economic recovery still faces major headwinds. …
The government is expected to report on Friday that nonfarm payrolls dropped 100,000 in August, the third straight month of job declines, while private sector employment increased only 41,000, according to a Reuters survey.
ADP isn’t a perfect bellwether, but they’re usually in the ballpark. The reversal in direction in their report could mean a net loss of private jobs overall, or just a further slowing of net growth in the private sector, as Reuters supposes. One has to remember that net job growth has to surpass 100,000 a month to keep up with population growth, too, so the term “net” is somewhat misleading. Every month that the economy fails to meet that level means more people unemployed or underemployed, and so far over the last two years, we have had only one month of private-sector growth at or above that level (March 2010).
Given Reuters’ track record on predictions, I suspect we’ll see the use of the word “unexpectedly” again on Friday.









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There we go again. Low expectations for Fridays numbers. When they come in they will be “unexpectedly” better than “expected.” Seen this too many times before.
sandee on September 1, 2010 at 1:49 PM
Well if Harry Reid thought “only” 36,000 jobs lost was good news, he must be ecstatic over this figure.
Doughboy on September 1, 2010 at 1:49 PM
Welcome Home Troops! Unemployment line to the left. Homeless shelters, also to the left.
Lily on September 1, 2010 at 1:50 PM
Tragically would be a better word than unexpectedly.
We all agree that the economy is tragic.
petunia on September 1, 2010 at 1:50 PM
What has this Administration done to support job growth? None!
Plus we have to replace all the jobs that were lost. That’s going to take years.
We have real serious problem, as the population grows we need new jobs just to maintain our employment numbers.
Oil Can on September 1, 2010 at 1:52 PM
No. That would be unexpected if they used that word.
rbj on September 1, 2010 at 1:53 PM
Unemployment? Pffft. Watch this drive!
-Barfy
Ted Torgerson on September 1, 2010 at 1:55 PM
And what’s up with the stock market today? Are they bonkers?
sandee on September 1, 2010 at 1:56 PM
Typo, Ed. “Om Friday” at the end.
KeepOhioRed on September 1, 2010 at 1:57 PM
The ISM report came in firmer today at 56.3. The market is trading up dramatically. Two things come to mind. The market is thin with major trading houses still on vacation, and the market overreacts on any bit of perceived good news. There’s another factor in play, and that is that trading houses will pump things up especially if they’re looking for better levels from which to short. This is typical behavior.
Friday’s NFP can only be “less bad.” There is no reason for euphoria imo although I could be wrong. The Fed is dovish, and for good reason.
Bottom line, as we all know, is that the private sector has to show some signs of life, and there is little reason to think it might appear this Friday.
The estimate I’m seeing is – 101,000. Negative.
Cody1991 on September 1, 2010 at 1:58 PM
If this is Recovery Summer, I’m afraid of Faltering Fall. Although there is that one bright spot, the NOvember 2 wake up call.
OT:
I bolded the $90k/year figure. Link
GnuBreed on September 1, 2010 at 1:59 PM
Out of curiosity –
Has anyone searched old news reports about jobs during the Bush years? I wonder if Reuters/AP/etc. used the word “unexpectedly” to describe decreases in employment as frequently with Bush as they do with Obama.
Outlander on September 1, 2010 at 2:03 PM
Where’s Lorien?
Count it!
Vashta.Nerada on September 1, 2010 at 2:04 PM
Obama’s America.
Inanemergencydial on September 1, 2010 at 2:05 PM
I’ll bet the $800,000 Oval Office redecorating looks great to the proles in the breadlines.
Cicero43 on September 1, 2010 at 2:07 PM
After being downsized in 2008 I went out on my own and have done well enough to keep the family going. However, since July most of the business has dried up because everyone is pulling back.
They won’t say out loud that this is a double dip, but trust me it is. Companies are terrified over the impact of the taxes in 2011 and the healthcare bill is a nightmare; costs will rise by 10-15% beginning in October.
Where be dat food stants line?
Key West Reader on September 1, 2010 at 2:13 PM
If you have a job, you value a job, you want your neighbor to have a job…you would never, ever, vote in this election for a democrat.
right2bright on September 1, 2010 at 2:15 PM
Home sale prices also rose for the 3rd month in a row and Economic Sentiment Indicators rose to their highest level since 2010. It appears that the majority of the rise is from trading programs though.
Vince on September 1, 2010 at 2:15 PM
Obama has “pivoted” so many times back to jobs, jobs, jobs…. If he keeps this “pivot” meme up for much longer he’s likely to get dizzy from doing so many 360′s.
Excessive pivoting can cause fatigue in our weakest creatures. I heard it on CBS and MSNBC… must be true.
Key West Reader on September 1, 2010 at 2:16 PM
Pft, as long as the Dow stays above 10k, the Obama administration sees things as better than they could be. And as long as Soros and Buffett keep propping up the market, it will hover around there for a long time.
In Obama’s administration the market is the true indicator of the economy. Not some silly thing like jobs.
ButterflyDragon on September 1, 2010 at 2:19 PM
Summer of Recovery! We expect to see growth of 50,000 jobs a month. We’re on the right track. We are making progress.
rjoco1 on September 1, 2010 at 2:21 PM
QUICK!!! Someone call JOE BIDEN and tell him some of his emails didnt go through .
Apparently the good folks at ADP didnt get the Biden ” the economy is fine ” email , or OBAMA’S ” I am confident the economy is headed in the right direction ( yes from his perspective it is…. headed SOUTH and that is going according to PLAN )
Shouldn’t the headline Friday read , BLAH BLAH , to be revised downward in a few weeks ?
Maybe Hillary could SCREECH ” It’s about the Economy STUPID”
ELMO Q on September 1, 2010 at 2:22 PM
Democrats Tout Their Role in Stopping Employer Interrogation Program
Mervis Winter on September 1, 2010 at 2:24 PM
They will have to rename the season “Fall” to “Crash”
faraway on September 1, 2010 at 2:25 PM
This is the last vestige of investment…the last stand.
Everyone knows if this dumps, we are in a “mother of all depressions”.
There is no other values, since inventory is depleted, real estate is upside down, pension funds are in serious trouble, the only thing of value is the stock market…so they are doing everything necessary to put on a happy face and fight to keep it up…if it begins to slide, you are going to witness something no one wants to ever be a part of.
right2bright on September 1, 2010 at 2:27 PM
OT: Thought you might like to add this to the Umbrella Man pics. More ‘fearless leader’ material and why we should all be scared $hitless:
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_DawJTCHuL3c/TH5flgsrNnI/AAAAAAAAHCQ/-ohIdI07jfk/bo-obama_thumb%5B1%5D.jpg?imgmax=800
Cody1991 on September 1, 2010 at 2:33 PM
Hi Vince,
Most of what we’ve seen since the big meltdown has been artificial. There has been no substantive, organic growth. The markets are just awful, and they’re becoming a joke.
Even so-called economists who used to tout the “green shoots” meme have been laughed out of the room. We’re staring at dead weeds.
Even the EU is making more progress than us. That signals to me that we’ve really hit an all time low.
Cody1991 on September 1, 2010 at 2:38 PM
“I won.”
“The difference is, you’ve got me.”
“Boooooosh.”
Nothing to see here. Move along.
GrannyDee on September 1, 2010 at 3:08 PM
FWIW/
Outgoing Council of Economic Advisers head Christina Romer says the US faces a substantial shortfall of aggregate demand and that growth is still about 6 percentage points below the trend level. That is the main cause of unemployment, she says. The US must take quick action to boost demand and bring down unemployment. The best way to do that is in the short run is for the government to spend more and tax less, she says.
It is interesting to hear an unvarnished assessment from the esteemed economist, not the usual happy talk, as she backs her bags to return to academia.
http://www.forexlive.com/129131/all/white-house-still-bearish-on-growth
Cody1991 on September 1, 2010 at 3:14 PM
“The deceleration in employment”
Where do they come up with this stuff? Deceleration? Earth to BS Author, close to 500,000 people a week are filing for unemployment.
For deceration there has to be some movement and we haven’t seen any for a while.
dogsoldier on September 1, 2010 at 3:23 PM
A couple of points, AP.
Firstly, if ADP cuts most of the checks in the U.S. — well, a lion’s share, anyway — then their hard numbers represent probably a pretty hefty sample to base their projections on. If the number of paychecks decreases, then there are fewer people without jobs. Period.
Secondly, if Reuters states on Tuesday that it sees a bleak report coming out on Friday, then how can Friday’s news be “unexpected”.
I gotta believe that one of the problems with the media and politicians is a blinding lack of logical and critical thinking and an inability to draw conclusions from facts.
The War Planner on September 1, 2010 at 3:28 PM
But didn’t they hear the speech? Obama is launching a full scale attack on joblessness and the bad economy now.
kens on September 1, 2010 at 3:39 PM
sandee – it’s a ‘perfect storm’ combination. Businesses and consumers alike have refused to learn from the credit crunch of the 20′s, when on-credit spending finally hit the wall, so here we are again.
The other half of it right2bright pretty well covered. Everything of value (on a national scale) is pretty well kaput by now. The stock market is our last feeble ray of hope. Little better of a financial institution than a casino, really, but it’s all we’ve got. For if it fails it will start an economic earthquake that our nation cannot possibly survive.
Dark-Star on September 1, 2010 at 3:39 PM
If all those illegal aliens (Irish, Polish, Russian, Hispanic, etc.) left, there might be more jobs for real citizens.
Just saying.
Special Forces Grunt on September 1, 2010 at 3:39 PM
Pretty shaky hope, isn’t it? The modern ‘stock market’ works much like a casino with somewhat better odds.
Dark-Star on September 1, 2010 at 3:46 PM
I’m still waiting for the headline: REUTERS UNEXPECTEDLY GOES OUT OF BUSINESS
GarandFan on September 1, 2010 at 4:30 PM
Even with a 20,000 job growth in the private sector it’s not close to what it is needed to offset new worker going into the workplace each months.
jdun on September 1, 2010 at 5:33 PM
I am tired of Friday night dumps.
seesalrun on September 1, 2010 at 8:17 PM