Open thread: Obama’s Iraq speech; Update: Obama acknowledges Bush

posted at 7:37 pm on August 31, 2010 by Allahpundit

8 p.m. ET across the dial. It’s billed as an Iraq speech, but that’s not really what it is. The “key part,” apparently, will be a renewed call to “take the fight directly to al Qaeda” by finishing the job in Afghanistan. (Wouldn’t taking the fight to AQ require operations in Pakistan, not Afghanistan?) It’s also being billed as a “mission unaccomplished” speech, as the White House is ever mindful after Bush of the pitfalls in celebrating too early. But that’s not really what this is either. Like it or not, by investing the end of combat ops with the grandeur of an Oval Office address, The One is necessarily signaling completion of the task. And why not? The public couldn’t be clearer as to how it feels about renewing combat operations if Iraqi security starts to fall apart. This is closure, for better or worse.

Because it is closure, and closure at a moment when things are ominously open-ended in Iraq, I admit to having no appetite today for the standard left/right recriminations about how much Bush screwed up or whether Obama should credit him for the surge. (I think he will acknowledge Bush tonight, for what it’s worth, mainly to signal that this is an occasion that transcends partisanship. But never underestimate the political instincts of the perpetual campaigner.) Instead, since we’re putting a bookend on history, I offer you this grim big-picture reminiscence by star NYT correspondent John Burns, who was on the ground over there until 2007. Today is a day that’s taken forever to arrive, he says, and yet it still seems to have arrived too soon. And some Iraqis agree:

“Notwithstanding what the national press says about increased violence, the truth is things are still very much different, things are much safer,” Biden told al-Maliki at the start of their 90 minute meeting.

But throughout the day, Biden’s entourage had to duck for cover three times upon hearing alerts for incoming rocket and mortar fire. No impact was heard, meaning that the shelling likely fell short of its target…

“It’s not the right time,” said Johaina Mohammed, a 40-year-old teacher from Baghdad. “There is no government, the security is deteriorating, and there is no trust.”…

“They should wait for the government to be formed and then withdraw,” said Mohammed Hussein Abbas, a Shiite from the town of Hillah south of Baghdad.

An Iraqi poll taken two weeks ago showed 59.8 percent say it’s too soon for the U.S. to fully withdraw. Ray Odierno, while hopeful that the election stalemate will be resolved by October 1, now worries openly about Iraqis giving up on the democratic model if things continue to bog down. The headlines tomorrow will be about whether The One mentioned Bush, but the bird’s-eye historical view of tonight’s speech will be whether, as lefty hawk Michael O’Hanlon argued today, Obama should have waited until the new Iraqi government was in place to commit to ending combat ops. He’s intent on checking the box next to his campaign promise to end combat ops in Iraq, though, so here we are. The die is now cast — again, for better or worse.

He tends to do well in speeches by his usual standards when he has his C-in-C hat on, so here’s hoping he rises to the occasion. The thread is open.

Update: Nothing specific about the surge, but I was right about him saying some kind words about Dubya. From the transcript:

As we do, I am mindful that the Iraq War has been a contentious issue at home. Here, too, it is time to turn the page. This afternoon, I spoke to former President George W. Bush. It’s well known that he and I disagreed about the war from its outset. Yet no one could doubt President Bush’s support for our troops, or his love of country and commitment to our security. As I have said, there were patriots who supported this war, and patriots who opposed it. And all of us are united in appreciation for our servicemen and women, and our hope for Iraq’s future.


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Crowley said he looked like he should have a propeller cap on…

d1carter on August 31, 2010 at 8:32 PM

The guy looks like he does not really want to be President just a golfer. The clown looked uncomfortable, maybe he was struggling with the new office decor ? Yawn.

Sandybourne on August 31, 2010 at 8:32 PM

Who’s with me?

hawkdriver on August 31, 2010 at 8:30 PM

Ching! Ching!

bluemarlin on August 31, 2010 at 8:32 PM

“This Presidency is Lost”

August 28, 2010

Key West Reader on August 31, 2010 at 8:32 PM

Who’s with me?

Cheers!

sandee on August 31, 2010 at 8:32 PM

hawkdriver on August 31, 2010 at 8:30 PM

Cheers Chief!!

darwin-t on August 31, 2010 at 8:32 PM

Here, too, it is time to turn the page.

What,is it November 2012 already?

chickasaw42 on August 31, 2010 at 8:33 PM

Oohrah, bottoms up Hawdriver, chugging a Highlife right now!

Alden Pyle on August 31, 2010 at 8:33 PM

Skeletor wants Imam Obowma inside of him…

… there is no doubt about it.

Seven Percent Solution on August 31, 2010 at 8:27 PM

He gives him the coochie sweats. Wait, which one has the coochie?

Monica on August 31, 2010 at 8:33 PM

Levin going nuts

ndulik on August 31, 2010 at 8:22 PM

???

Score one for BOR. He just said that Obama’s demeanor reminded him of Our Miss Brooks. Funny!

petefrt on August 31, 2010 at 8:29 PM

As I remember Eve Arden had a dry wit and actually was funny. Suprised BOR compared the two.

INC on August 31, 2010 at 8:33 PM

Ooooooh. “Vice President Biden” is delivering a message. I bet the Iraqis are moist with excitement.

Republican on August 31, 2010 at 8:08 PM

Someone please warn the camels, for the love of Allah!

I was watching the ballgame, insisting that I would not watch Barry give his little speech. However, the daughter got hold of the remote and started surfing. I had the volume on mute, yet when I looked up and saw Barry, he looked very, very small sitting at that desk. Very much defeated.

Good. May he endure infinite crushing defeats – each more excruciating and humiliating than the one before until he cannot stand it one second longer.

Say it with me:

President Biden!

turfmann on August 31, 2010 at 8:33 PM

Thanks for that — another loser actor whose movies I can stop seeing.

Republican on August 31, 2010 at 8:29 PM

Yes, one of the few actors that I boycott. I will watch Sean Penn or Clooney because they are actually talented enough to over-compensate for their liberalism. Not so much with John Cusack. He is an annoying, untalented little boy.

Savage nailed it. There is an LQ (Liberalism Quotient) that is equal to how low an actors’ or actresses’ ass has fallen due to age.

carbon_footprint on August 31, 2010 at 8:33 PM

I listened to it in the car and just got home. Has it been pointed out already that he used the end of the war to push his economic agenda and indirectly compared the sacrifices that our servicemen made in Iraq to supporting higher government spending?

29Victor on August 31, 2010 at 8:34 PM

Who’s with me?

hawkdriver on August 31, 2010 at 8:30 PM

CHEERS!!!

TN Mom on August 31, 2010 at 8:34 PM

I caught just the end—but he seemed like the dullest speaker in the world–no emotions at all.

INC on August 31, 2010 at 8:34 PM

I came home and turned on the TV and first thing Obama talked about was putting “our differences” aside cuz they’re a thing of the past.
Well, of course he’d like to do that because looking at his past comments and actions about the Iraq war makes him look bad. He was wrong on everything and he was against all the decisions which caused us to win.

OxyCon on August 31, 2010 at 8:34 PM

hawkdriver on August 31, 2010 at 8:30 PM

Cheers Hawk
‘opening a cold one’

Gracelynn on August 31, 2010 at 8:34 PM

BOR can push Skeletor’s buttons better than anyone…

d1carter on August 31, 2010 at 8:27 PM

I know. Skeletor must be really hard up for a job. Otherwise why would he endure such abuse.

Skeletor is a simpleton whose speech thought is limited to talking points. He discredits any show that takes him seriously.

petefrt on August 31, 2010 at 8:34 PM

Note that Barry didn’t mention the Tollybon or Hamid Karzai.

Christien on August 31, 2010 at 8:30 PM

OOOH, OHHHH , OHHHH! L.O.L>

I forgot about the Tollybahn!
God bless our President, the squirrel!

Chewy the Lab on August 31, 2010 at 8:35 PM

Who’s with me?

hawkdriver on August 31, 2010 at 8:30 PM

Salut

macncheez on August 31, 2010 at 8:35 PM

Just how is this going to make his liberal lefty “base” happy? That’s who he has to impress.

sandee on August 31, 2010 at 8:30 PM

I know this is hard for some to believe but America is not divided into only two camps. Hot Air and Daily Kos.

His speech was pretty good. My dad is not a fan of the President but he agreed.

fastestslug on August 31, 2010 at 8:37 PM

Anyone count how many times the pronoun “I” was used?

carbon_footprint on August 31, 2010 at 8:37 PM

hawk,

For you. Thanks, bro.

Christien on August 31, 2010 at 8:37 PM

Cheers! Hawk! Non alcohol ones here

dhunter on August 31, 2010 at 8:38 PM

Did anyone watch the speech?

d1carter on August 31, 2010 at 8:38 PM

Hawkdriver…..I’m sipping my Chardonnay with you friend.

Winebabe on August 31, 2010 at 8:38 PM

petefrt on August 31, 2010 at 8:34 PM

LOL. I remember when Hannity announced that his NEW show would be debuting and that Skeletor was moving on to other interests.

I actually believed him! Then I was shocked that dejected Skeletor kept his horrible FoxNews Radio Show and now just goes on BOR’s show. I realized no one wants him.

That being said, I liked “Hannity & Colmes” better than “Hannity”.

Gob on August 31, 2010 at 8:39 PM

Did anyone watch the speech?

d1carter on August 31, 2010 at 8:38 PM

I did, it was boring, convoluted, and “Cousin Eddie” was stoned

dhunter on August 31, 2010 at 8:40 PM

“The pageant has passed. The day is over.
But we linger, loath to think we should see them no more together…These men, these horses, these colors afield.”

J.L.Chamberlain

Cheers back to all.

hawkdriver on August 31, 2010 at 8:40 PM

Hawkdriver, to your health, happiness and prosperity. Cheers!

petefrt on August 31, 2010 at 8:40 PM

tell me it’s over….please?

ted c on August 31, 2010 at 8:40 PM

hawkdriver on August 31, 2010 at 8:30 PM

Yer goddamned right I’m with you.

BigWyo on August 31, 2010 at 8:41 PM

Who’s with me?

hawkdriver on August 31, 2010 at 8:30 PM

+7%…!

(… and drinking)

Seven Percent Solution on August 31, 2010 at 8:41 PM

FIRST!

Bishop on August 31, 2010 at 8:41 PM

This BONE HEAD could not sell ICE WATER in HELL!!!

KATDADDY on August 31, 2010 at 8:41 PM

hawkdriver on August 31, 2010 at 8:30 PM

Cheers.

Cindy Munford on August 31, 2010 at 8:42 PM

I did, it was boring, convoluted, and “Cousin Eddie” was stoned

dhunter on August 31, 2010 at 8:40 PM

Hahaha… yup, I think we can chalk that one off to another non-starter.

petefrt on August 31, 2010 at 8:42 PM

Awe nuts, I missed it. I was stuck in traffic on the 101, like a lot of southern californians…as it is drive-home time for us.

no biggee, ’cause I don’t give a flying piece of crap what the clown has to say.

jbh45 on August 31, 2010 at 8:42 PM

How did you all like the new digs? “Like what you’ve done with the place”…

d1carter on August 31, 2010 at 8:43 PM

I did, it was boring, convoluted, and “Cousin Eddie” was stoned

dhunter on August 31, 2010 at 8:40 PM

You noticed that too? He really doesn’t look well. Too many parties, too much shrimp, too much golf. It can take a toll on an effete and manicured person.

Key West Reader on August 31, 2010 at 8:43 PM

Who’s with me?

hawkdriver on August 31, 2010 at 8:30 PM

I’ll toast that, Hawkdriver.

Dusty on August 31, 2010 at 8:43 PM

Update: Nothing specific about the surge, but I was right about him saying some kind words about Dubya.

Yeah, he said his name and it wasn’t followed by ‘fault’….

Kind indeed!!!

BigWyo on August 31, 2010 at 8:44 PM

This can’t be. Do my ears deceive me, or is McCain Minor on the BOR show.

petefrt on August 31, 2010 at 8:44 PM

If Obama keeps aging at this pace, he will be older than John McCain in two years.

carbon_footprint on August 31, 2010 at 8:45 PM

Thanks to our allies, too.

Christien on August 31, 2010 at 8:46 PM

How did you all like the new digs? “Like what you’ve done with the place”…

d1carter on August 31, 2010 at 8:43 PM

Once again…

WH interior designs by Snookie.

petefrt on August 31, 2010 at 8:46 PM

The real question I want to know is what was preempted for this telecast of garbage?

jbh45 on August 31, 2010 at 8:46 PM

Update: Nothing specific about the surge, but I was right about him saying some kind words about Dubya.

Great, I will be impressed when the score is a tad closer.
Unkind words about Bush: 748, 230
Kind words about Bush: 1

carbon_footprint on August 31, 2010 at 8:46 PM

hawkdriver on August 31, 2010 at 8:30 PM

There are more folks than you can believe who are with you!

Thank you!

Bruno Strozek on August 31, 2010 at 8:46 PM

For anyone that would like to join me. I have a drink in my hand. I would like to drink a toast…

To our previous CinC, President George Bush
To all who served and their families…
To all the patriots who supported us…
And most importantly, to our honored wounded and our honored dead…

Who’s with me?

hawkdriver on August 31, 2010 at 8:30 PM

HAWK this settles it I’m getting SH!T faced with you tonight I’m all in, all the way

KATDADDY on August 31, 2010 at 8:47 PM

A caller to Levin (still active military? missed that.. vet, at least) calls the CinC disingenous .. never metnioned any branches of service other than one, and he even got that not quite correct.
Caller says he just has no understanding of sacrifices by ALL services !!

pambi on August 31, 2010 at 8:47 PM

Oh, and CHEERS.. with ya, hawk (and all who serve) !!

pambi on August 31, 2010 at 8:48 PM

Kept waiting for Barry’s voice to crack Peter Brady style

Daveyardbird on August 31, 2010 at 8:49 PM

Christien on August 31, 2010 at 8:37 PM

Thanks for that. I’ve worked with Pedro. They’re great Americans.

lol, and as a matter of fact though, the one day we had a chance to rescue a Pedro, our support battalion DART Team burned their Blackhawk by accident while trying to recover it.

hawkdriver on August 31, 2010 at 8:49 PM

hawk,

For you. Thanks, bro.

Christien on August 31, 2010 at 8:37 PM

Nice link

bluemarlin on August 31, 2010 at 8:49 PM

Did ya see her allah? she cleaned up a little! what did ya say to her on vacation?
She even sorta stood up for Sarah admitting without her her dad couldn’t fill a phone booth

dhunter on August 31, 2010 at 8:49 PM

We’re gonna need a bigger boat shark.

Christien on August 31, 2010 at 8:26 PM

Is this shark big enough?

annoyinglittletwerp on August 31, 2010 at 8:51 PM

You noticed that too? He really doesn’t look well. Too many parties, too much shrimp, too much golf. It can take a toll on an effete and manicured person.

Key West Reader on August 31, 2010 at 8:43 PM

You forgot umbrella wrestling. That’s a tough sport.

Cody1991 on August 31, 2010 at 8:51 PM

Can I get a Cliff Notes of what Dear Leader said? Could not stand to watch him and am not going to wade through 5 pages. Did he have the decency to acknowledge that W’s policies got us to where we are?

Dingbat63 on August 31, 2010 at 8:52 PM

Who’s with me?

hawkdriver on August 31, 2010 at 8:30 PM

Now and forever, but without the adult beveridge.

fourdeucer on August 31, 2010 at 8:52 PM

O’riely you need the the dude with the big hook to snatch this must really be blond off the stage

KATDADDY on August 31, 2010 at 8:52 PM

Christien on August 31, 2010 at 8:46 PM

Amen Christien, our cheers include them.

hawkdriver on August 31, 2010 at 8:52 PM

Dingbat63 on August 31, 2010 at 8:52 PM

He had a snarky comment about “insurgency” (‘member when the left tried to sell that) and he made sure to snort out how we no longer have “surrender ceremonies”…something he has shown disdain for in the past.

Gob on August 31, 2010 at 8:55 PM

You noticed that too? He really doesn’t look well. Too many parties, too much shrimp, too much golf. It can take a toll on an effete and manicured person.

Key West Reader on August 31, 2010 at 8:43 PM

I’m tellin ya he was stoned. His eyes were wide and white, clear eyes, the pupils were huge and dark. He looked scared shtless and was lucky he just had to read that horriblis drivel. Hes scared and stoned, he won’t run again he may not even make it to 12!

dhunter on August 31, 2010 at 8:55 PM

Who’s with me?

hawkdriver on August 31, 2010 at 8:30 PM

I’m with ya, Hawkdriver. You and all the troops.

Salut!

Cody1991 on August 31, 2010 at 8:55 PM

Who’s with me?

hawkdriver on August 31, 2010 at 8:30 PM

Lifting a cuppa hot tea, here.

GrannyDee on August 31, 2010 at 8:58 PM

Kind words about Dubya Allah? He sounded like he was talking about his retarded nephew. He didn’t even nuance the point that Bush was right and the surge worked. He still sounded like HE made the right call. Hardly “kind words.”

AYNBLAND on August 31, 2010 at 8:59 PM

Who’s with me?

hawkdriver on August 31, 2010 at 8:30 PM

Amen. God bless you and keep you safe. Thank you for all you do.

milwife88 on August 31, 2010 at 8:59 PM

I’m tellin ya he was stoned. His eyes were wide and white, clear eyes, the pupils were huge and dark. He looked scared shtless and was lucky he just had to read that horriblis drivel. Hes scared and stoned, he won’t run again he may not even make it to 12!

dhunter on August 31, 2010 at 8:55 PM

If someone interrupts my vacation # 6 of the year and takes away my plate of lobster and forces me to go back to work, I’d be might p1$$ed too……and if snortin helps, I’d do it too.

macncheez on August 31, 2010 at 9:01 PM

Wow. We at HA must be living closer than we thought to a black hole. (Black hole, can you still say that?) I’ve noticed comments disappearing today that I didn’t see anything particularly ‘controversial’ about. Maybe the filter is having a nervous breakdown. (And then again, maybe I’m just hallucinating again.)

petefrt on August 31, 2010 at 9:02 PM

To our previous CinC, President George Bush
To all who served and their families…
To all the patriots who supported us…
And most importantly, to our honored wounded and our honored dead…

Who’s with me?

hawkdriver on August 31, 2010 at 8:30 PM

To all….*a toast*

great idea, hawk

ted c on August 31, 2010 at 9:03 PM

Lemme see…Chuck E. Cheese’s, Obama speech…Chuck E. Cheese’s, Obama speech.

Thank you Lord, I missed it. YEAH! Now to see if the president has a tad of strategical structure in his war plan. You know, what the usual office worker does…prioritize, organize, checks and balances, work out kinks, and get the job done.

Will read your feedback folks…your wisdom and expertise in this issue is far more appreciated when it comes to things like this.

ProudPalinFan on August 31, 2010 at 9:03 PM

Update: Nothing specific about the surge, but I was right about him saying some kind words about Dubya. From the transcript:

Yeah, that totally makes up for all of the lies and demagoguery that he and his fellow travelers have engaged in about Iraq…and everything else.

AUINSC on August 31, 2010 at 9:03 PM

Who’s with me?

hawkdriver on August 31, 2010 at 8:30 PM

+7%…!

(… and drinking)

Seven Percent Solution on August 31, 2010 at 8:41 PM

So you guys are going to live forever? Shudders
/

Cheers!

antisocial on August 31, 2010 at 9:04 PM

Who’s with me?

hawkdriver on August 31, 2010 at 8:30 PM

Glass of Glenlivet raised.

pugwriter on August 31, 2010 at 9:05 PM

I had to listen to this Obama speech while driving home from work. You get a different perspective from listening to it instead of viewing it.

It was worse.

portlandon on August 31, 2010 at 9:07 PM

I thought this was one of his better speeches. He honored the U.S. Military – maybe he got the message of the 8/28 Rally? If he was aiming for the center he hit the target. I wonder if he finally got some new advisers? Or is he finally listening to Rahm Emanuel, and not Axelrod and Jarrett? He acknowledge the Middle Class the Bedrock of this country. If you are a Washington insider, that Rally on 8/28 would have given you peace of mind “It Was A Powerful Message” ….that Rally showed the Class of the Average American “Grace Under Pressure” they are still standing – they aren’t wavering.

He is late to take this tact with the Middle Class in this country. He is appealing to their values, and not his pseudo intellectual buddies values….I can imagine the constant drone about bourgeoisie morals….. Glenn Beck said today on his show to everyone watching “you already won”

I did wonder if he asked George W Bush if he could borrow a speech writer;)

Dr Evil on August 31, 2010 at 9:08 PM

Lemme see…Chuck E. Cheese’s, Obama speech…Chuck E. Cheese’s, Obama speech.

Thank you Lord, I missed it. YEAH! Now to see if the president has a tad of strategical structure in his war plan. You know, what the usual office worker does…prioritize, organize, checks and balances, work out kinks, and get the job done.

Will read your feedback folks…your wisdom and expertise in this issue is far more appreciated when it comes to things like this.

ProudPalinFan on August 31, 2010 at 9:03 PM

If you plugged the animatronic rat into TOTUS, you can’t honestly tell me you’d be able to tell the difference between it and Obie, right?

Good Solid B-Plus on August 31, 2010 at 9:10 PM

BTW…why was he tilting to the left? He seemed to be leaning to the left like he was trying get the hell out of there as soon as he could…

crazywater on August 31, 2010 at 9:11 PM

Yeah, that totally makes up for all of the lies and demagoguery that he and his fellow travelers have engaged in about Iraq…and everything else.

AUINSC on August 31, 2010 at 9:03 PM

Hardly kind words. This is just the first time he’s mentioned Bush’s name without blaming him for everything, whining and denigrating him. BO is a putz, and that was the best he can do.

Cody1991 on August 31, 2010 at 9:11 PM

I have a bit more in the glass and time enough for one more call to raise our drinks to honor. Can we remember specifically, the men and women who are our Viet Nam vets? Who knew no parades. Who came home to many who didn’t honor them, but actually vilified them. This wrong done to you can never be made right. But know that in our hearts, you are as heroic as any generation of Americans who stood on the field of battle.

Cheers to you all.

And to men like Cindy Munfords husband, whose generation wrote the damn book on Air Assault.

Cheers to you!

hawkdriver on August 31, 2010 at 9:12 PM

You get a different perspective from listening to it instead of viewing it.

It was worse.

portlandon on August 31, 2010 at 9:07 PM

Yea but the body language was scared shtless, the eyes were stoned and the curtains looked like hell.

dhunter on August 31, 2010 at 9:12 PM

If I took anything away from this speech – it’s that he is moving toward the center….this wasn’t a speech for his uber lefty base. Except we are finished with combat troops in Iraq they don’t want any American Troops in Iraq.

The Polls are scary and that was a powerful message delivered Restoring Honor 8/28 Rally, HONOR.

Dr Evil on August 31, 2010 at 9:12 PM

sory can not watch or listen to the guy….

unseen on August 31, 2010 at 9:13 PM

I’m tellin ya he was stoned. His eyes were wide and white, clear eyes, the pupils were huge and dark. He looked scared shtless and was lucky he just had to read that horriblis drivel. Hes scared and stoned, he won’t run again he may not even make it to 12!

dhunter on August 31, 2010 at 8:55 PM

He’ll feign illness. Watch for it.
Between tonight’s campaign speech and today’s visit to Fort Bliss with an absolutely silent crowd of troops, he’s not going to be able to hang. Good riddance.

Key West Reader on August 31, 2010 at 9:13 PM

Did they show the new Oval Office rug with all the leftist slogans on it?

rockmom on August 31, 2010 at 9:14 PM

Who’s with me?

hawkdriver on August 31, 2010 at 8:30 PM

Our Military family is with you and with all the troops!

Key West Reader on August 31, 2010 at 9:15 PM

Yea but the body language was scared shtless, the eyes were stoned and the curtains looked like hell.

dhunter on August 31, 2010 at 9:12 PM

Shhhh. Don’t talk about the drapes or you might just see them on a certain person at the next WH gala.

/

Key West Reader on August 31, 2010 at 9:16 PM

Hardly kind words. This is just the first time he’s mentioned Bush’s name without blaming him for everything, whining and denigrating him. BO is a putz, and that was the best he can do.

Cody1991 on August 31, 2010 at 9:11 PM

Isn’t it pathetic that he’ll actually get a complementary mention for not denigrating the former CinC overtly for a change? The bar is being lowered by the day.

Monica on August 31, 2010 at 9:18 PM

Between tonight’s campaign speech and today’s visit to Fort Bliss with an absolutely silent crowd of troops, he’s not going to be able to hang. Good riddance.

Key West Reader on August 31, 2010 at 9:13 PM

This would not surprise me at all. It’s going to be nearly impossible for him to function without adoring crowds, polls that support his view of himself and the possibility of facing both a House and Senate controlled by Republicans. He’s always been supported and pushed along especially by the Daley machine. In November he may well be on his own. He must be skeered…. :)

Cody1991 on August 31, 2010 at 9:19 PM

Quit crying cons

The adults are in charge

Thank you presidente obama!

Inanemergencydial on August 31, 2010 at 9:19 PM

“They should wait for the government to be formed and then withdraw,” said Mohammed Hussein Abbas, a Shiite from the town of Hillah south of Baghdad.

Who was holding our hand when we formed a government? Who fought our war of Independence? The British weren’t done with us they came back for more in 1812 and we fought them again…if only our political class had any sense of history they wouldn’t be aping European Socialism – it’s foreign it’s not our culture.

So now the Iraqis are “Forced” to form a Government. What is the impetus for them to getting on with getting on if we are always their to wipe their noses. They are going to face adversity but how many other countries have been give the opportunity we have given them after 7 years of fighting for them?

It’s not like we aren’t still in their country we haven’t completely removed their security blanket but it’s time for them to get on with forming a government for themselves.

Dr Evil on August 31, 2010 at 9:20 PM

It’s always time to “turn the page” when liberals lose.

SouthernGent on August 31, 2010 at 9:23 PM

“Notwithstanding what the national press says about increased violence, the truth is things are still very much different, things are much safer,” Biden told al-Maliki at the start of their 90 minute meeting.

Damn that media for stirring things up!
Hey Joe, we’re holding that job at Home Depot open for ya!

gordo on August 31, 2010 at 9:24 PM

Shhhh. Don’t talk about the drapes or you might just see them on a certain person at the next WH gala.

/

Key West Reader on August 31, 2010 at 9:16 PM

Too late..

macncheez on August 31, 2010 at 9:24 PM

Even McCain is hammering Obama on the speech.

faraway on August 31, 2010 at 9:26 PM

Jonah Goldberg’s assessment of the speech is scathing especially his last remarks:

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/245325/obamas-speech-jonah-goldberg

Cody1991 on August 31, 2010 at 9:26 PM

For anyone that would like to join me. I have a drink in my hand. I would like to drink a toast…

To our previous CinC, President George Bush
To all who served and their families…
To all the patriots who supported us…
And most importantly, to our honored wounded and our honored dead…

Who’s with me?

hawkdriver on August 31, 2010 at 8:30 PM

I’m with ya, Hombre.

To the Army and the Navy and the battles they have won. To the Red, White and Blue, The Colors that never run!

May the Wings of Liberty never lose a feather.

SuperCool on August 31, 2010 at 9:31 PM

Well if Israel attacks Iran because of their nuclear program, we are going to need our combat troops freed up.

Dr Evil on August 31, 2010 at 9:31 PM

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