Bill Press: Talking about God not appropriate for “sacred” spot

posted at 3:45 pm on August 30, 2010 by Ed Morrissey

Greg Hengler captures the moment in which “incoherence” is defined, during CNN’s “Reliable Sources” yesterday. Howard Kurtz notes that libtalker Bill Press had spent the last several weeks crusading against Glenn Beck’s Restoring Honor rally, but that Beck kept partisan politics out of the speeches Saturday to focus mainly on religious themes. Press continued his objection, noting that the Lincoln Memorial and its “sacred” location was no place to talk about either God or politics. Er, it’s too “sacred” for God? Maybe Bill should check his thesaurus:

Note that Press manages to assert twice that God isn’t an appropriate topic for sacred ground, a rather novel assertion under any circumstances, but especially so for the Lincoln Memorial.  The Great Emancipator certainly didn’t have any trouble speaking about God and faith during his lifetime; in fact, to the right of the massive statue, one can read Lincoln’s second inaugural address, in which Lincoln repeatedly mentions and invokes the Almighty.  Shall we get the sandblasters to remove the speech from the wall?

Perhaps Press refers to Martin Luther King’s address from the same spot as that which makes the real estate “sacred.”  If so, then Press might have a problem with King, too, who mentioned God and politics in the very speech King gave in 1963.  Its most famous passage explicitly references God in his plea for equality:

And when this happens, when we allow freedom ring, when we let it ring from every village and every hamlet, from every state and every city, we will be able to speed up that day when all of God’s children, black men and white men, Jews and Gentiles, Protestants and Catholics, will be able to join hands and sing in the words of the old Negro spiritual:

Free at last! Free at last!

Thank God Almighty, we are free at last!

So what does make Press claim that Beck was committing sacrilege by holding a rally about faith in the American life?  Perhaps the fact that Press couldn’t comprehend the subject matter.

Update: The rally was on Saturday, not yesterday.  I’ve corrected it above.


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Wait, so Mr Press is against the ground zero mosque????

picklesgap on August 30, 2010 at 3:48 PM

But the Ground Zero area is perfectly appropriate for a terrorism-funded mosque opening on the tenth anniversary of 9/11, named after the central city of Islam’s greatest caliphate.

MadisonConservative on August 30, 2010 at 3:49 PM

But the lefties would allow a Mosque to be built there. Do you Wudu?
In the waters of the Lincoln memorial?

seven on August 30, 2010 at 3:49 PM

Congratulations, Bill Press. You have now, officially, jumped the shark.

JohnGalt23 on August 30, 2010 at 3:50 PM

Neither party expected for the war the magnitude or the duration which it has already attained. Neither anticipated that the cause of the conflict might cease with or even before the conflict itself should cease. Each looked for an easier triumph, and a result less fundamental and astounding. Both read the same Bible and pray to the same God, and each invokes His aid against the other. It may seem strange that any men should dare to ask a just God’s assistance in wringing their bread from the sweat of other men’s faces, but let us judge not, that we be not judged. The prayers of both could not be answered. That of neither has been answered fully. The Almighty has His own purposes. “Woe unto the world because of offenses; for it must needs be that offenses come, but woe to that man by whom the offense cometh.”

That bastard Lincoln, always trying to shove religion down the throats of the citizens.

Cicero43 on August 30, 2010 at 3:50 PM

Sometimes I wish someone would come out and say right on air to these libs “You know, your an idiot.”

WisRich on August 30, 2010 at 3:50 PM

Er, it’s too “sacred” for God? Maybe Bill should check his thesaurus:

You know it’s kind of amusing and scary at the same time to see the Oppressive Left lose their “Collective” minds.

Chip on August 30, 2010 at 3:50 PM

Lincoln’s second inaugural is inscribed in the wall at the Lincoln Memorial. Are the parts of that speech that talk about God inappropriate? Should they be striken from the memorial?

dczombie on August 30, 2010 at 3:50 PM

I fear that starting up another God movement is going to alienate lots of conservatives and Republicans.

Narutoboy on August 30, 2010 at 3:51 PM

Maybe Press meant that “sacred” refers to The State, not God.

rbj on August 30, 2010 at 3:51 PM

Why do we expect rationale out of hysterics???

THE CHOSEN ONE on August 30, 2010 at 3:51 PM

He has appropriated the site for secularism and government. It is only sacred for his invention of a secular state, and no others may claim it. It is sort of like the Dome of the Rock for him.

AnotherOpinion on August 30, 2010 at 3:52 PM

Not “Sacred” sacred, but like Sacred Progressive or Sacred Communist.

barnone on August 30, 2010 at 3:52 PM

Can you imagine bringing up religion on a day dedicated to Reverend Martin Luther King Jr.?

Wait, what?

Merovign on August 30, 2010 at 3:53 PM

I bash Howard Kurtz almost daily on his WaPo website, but I have got to hand it to him, he made Bill Press look like a complete and utter fool. Kudos to Howie Kurtz.

d1carter on August 30, 2010 at 3:53 PM

I also heard this morning on Bill Bennett that besides the numerous mentions to God at the memorial that it is also called a “temple” by the builders and enscribed in some wall.

Would much rather have Bill Press as a pundit that a politician,
though. Didn’t he stop running after 7 or 8 losses?

Marcus on August 30, 2010 at 3:53 PM

So….Bill Press is against the 9/11 Victory Mosque, right?

portlandon on August 30, 2010 at 3:53 PM

And it’s this type of contortion that Beck is addressing when he says to bring back honor.

ButterflyDragon on August 30, 2010 at 3:54 PM

REVEREND Martin Luther King.

portlandon on August 30, 2010 at 3:54 PM

Specifically, should this part of Lincoln’s Second Inaugural be stricken from the Memorial since it’s too religious to appear on sacred ground?

Each looked for an easier triumph, and a result less fundamental and astounding. Both read the same Bible and pray to the same God, and each invokes His aid against the other. It may seem strange that any men should dare to ask a just God’s assistance in wringing their bread from the sweat of other men’s faces, but let us judge not, that we be not judged. The prayers of both could not be answered. That of neither has been answered fully. The Almighty has His own purposes. “Woe unto the world because of offenses; for it must needs be that offenses come, but woe to that man by whom the offense cometh.” If we shall suppose that American slavery is one of those offenses which, in the providence of God, must needs come, but which, having continued through His appointed time, He now wills to remove, and that He gives to both North and South this terrible war as the woe due to those by whom the offense came, shall we discern therein any departure from those divine attributes which the believers in a living God always ascribe to Him? Fondly do we hope, fervently do we pray, that this mighty scourge of war may speedily pass away. Yet, if God wills that it continue until all the wealth piled by the bondsman’s two hundred and fifty years of unrequited toil shall be sunk, and until every drop of blood drawn with the lash shall be paid by another drawn with the sword, as was said three thousand years ago, so still it must be said “the judgments of the Lord are true and righteous altogether.”

dczombie on August 30, 2010 at 3:54 PM

d1carter: “he [Kurtz] made Bill Press look like a complete and utter fool.”

Bill Press certainly helped!!

Justrand on August 30, 2010 at 3:55 PM

That bastard Lincoln, always trying to shove religion down the throats of the citizens.
Cicero43 on August 30, 2010 at 3:50 PM

.
Hey! I’ll have you know mom and dad were married before I was born.
They checked that in OCS.

LincolntheHun on August 30, 2010 at 3:55 PM

Bill Press would be saying something altogether different if a liberal led rally occurred on that sacred ground.

This guy is just a skunk and unworthy to be called an American. I just researched his bio. No shock he’s a hack blinded by partisanship.

dogsoldier on August 30, 2010 at 3:56 PM

Bill Press – well there is rape, rape and there is God, God – get it you proles?

LincolntheHun on August 30, 2010 at 3:56 PM

libs are hypocrits.. sky is blue.. what’s new

gatorboy on August 30, 2010 at 3:56 PM

Given this, I can’t help but believe there’s hope for Alvin Greene after all!

AubieJon on August 30, 2010 at 3:57 PM

Should King not have uttered the words “Free at last, free at last. Thank God Almighty we are free at last” on the grounds that mentioning God at that location would be inappropriate?

dczombie on August 30, 2010 at 3:57 PM

Reading to understand the left.

Not Sacred = GOD
Sacred = Government building.

William Amos on August 30, 2010 at 3:57 PM

Let’s see, according to the left, it’s not okay to invoke God at a location where God is invoked – in a permanent stone etching no less, but it is okay for the mosque to be built at ground zero.

I get it now – Muslims have rights but Christians shouldn’t have rights.

Thanks for clearing that up, lefties.

ghost707 on August 30, 2010 at 3:57 PM

Maybe Press meant that “sacred” refers to The State, not God.

rbj on August 30, 2010 at 3:51 PM

You got that right.

forest on August 30, 2010 at 3:57 PM

“You know what? You can’t throw a stick up in the air and not hit a sacred fern or something.”

Skandia Recluse on August 30, 2010 at 3:58 PM

Justrand on August 30, 2010 at 3:55 PM

Heh, actually Press needs little help, but Howie is usually on Press’s side…that is as shocking as Press’s lunacy.

d1carter on August 30, 2010 at 3:58 PM

All day as I read / listen to the threads / links here I have said to myself “What an Idiot”
the left is definitly on a roll today (Or rather the reporting of the left)
Maddow
Matthews
Press

Guest1.1 on August 30, 2010 at 3:59 PM

Maybe Press meant that “sacred” refers to The State, not God.

Bingo. Thou shalt not put any god before the State.

Bat Chain Puller on August 30, 2010 at 3:59 PM

Perhaps Press refers to Martin Luther King’s address from the same spot as that which makes the real estate “sacred.”

This is a tough circle for Mr. Press to square. King, Palin, Beck, and Lincoln all invoked God in their respective addresses as well as the Washington Monument has “Laus Deo” inscribed atop its eastern facing summit. Moreover when considering Lincoln’s words of:

But, in a larger sense, we can not dedicate — we can not consecrate – we can not hallow — this ground.

Mr. Lincoln stated so in a fashion that the actions of the men there had already consecrated it by their sacrifice, so Press’ attempt at citing that the ground is “consecrated” one must ask by who’s sacrifice is the ground consecrated? Lincoln’s–ok, King’s ok.. and before those men were hated, who was hated first? That answer, Mr. Press, is one person and that is Jesus Christ.

ted c on August 30, 2010 at 3:59 PM

There is nothing wrong with talking about God in that place. I do think however, that the next time Beck slams Bush and talks about what a horrible person he is, he might remember that George Bush is a Christian who did not hide his faith or apologize for it and as such deserves some credit for trying to remain true to his God. I know Beck won’t do that, but it would be the Christian thing to do.

Terrye on August 30, 2010 at 4:00 PM

As they say, “you can’t make this stuff up”. Again, tell me why we let these “elitists” keep telling us we are the great unwashed and they are smarter than us? Every person who speaks to Bill Press in the forseeable future needs to say, “by the way here’s the definition of sacred…”

texabama on August 30, 2010 at 4:01 PM

a foolish question: Why are liberals so dimwitted? What or who else in the universe is more sacred than God? And is there any being more omnipresent than God???? Doubt it….

chai on August 30, 2010 at 4:02 PM

Liberalism in this country today is so tainted and corrupt it is nearly impossible to discern anything to it but hyposcrisy and lies. I hate to even call it liberalism or progressivism. It is barely an ism at all. It is just a raw-power grab by evil weaselly people of bad or no faith. Adherents to that evil sect can only be described words like ‘ignorant’,'liar’,'fool’,'hypocrit’,'sychophant’ and ‘scum.’

WashingtonsWake on August 30, 2010 at 4:02 PM

Talking heads should have a Three-Second Rule for unbeclowning oneself. Either that, or a Self-beclowning Mercy Rule.

Christien on August 30, 2010 at 4:03 PM

putz

cmsinaz on August 30, 2010 at 4:03 PM

We all know what Press’ thought-process was — that while Lincoln and King may have mentioned God in their speeches, after the 1963 march and King’s subsequent assassination, the Lincoln Memorial is considered by him and others on the left to be sacred ground for liberal ideology. It’s that mindset by Press that sees Beck’s rally defiling holy ground.

The left always wants to pretend Lincoln was a Democrat, and claim King as a purely non-religious political figure post-1968, with whatever connections he had being either immaterial or a fraud (i.e. — they want to believe if King was alive today, he would have been as true about his Southern Baptist beliefs as Obama was about promising to be a post-partisan president once elected, and would be an 81-year-old Jeremiah Wright clone in the pulpit, if he was still there at all).

jon1979 on August 30, 2010 at 4:03 PM

Is it sacred because of Lincoln’s statue? Does Press think that Lincoln was greater than God, even though Lincoln himself would disagree?

Since we’re no longer allowed to use God’s name next to a “sacred” image of Lincoln, the U.S. Mint will just have to recall billions of pennies with “In God We Trust” engraved next to Lincoln’s “sacred” bust, with the “sacred” Lincoln Memorial on the “tails” side…

Not to mention all those $5 bills…

Steve Z on August 30, 2010 at 4:03 PM

Bill Press is the reason I cancelled my daily newspaper delivery 3 years ago. I couldn’t make sense of his POV. I see nothing has changed.

booter on August 30, 2010 at 4:03 PM

This dope is a liberal one trick pony. He’s so annoying I can’t watch him. He’s cut from the same cloth as O’Donnell.

rjoco1 on August 30, 2010 at 4:05 PM

Lincoln’s 2nd Inaugural Address on the wall inside the Lincoln Monument:

Fellow-Countrymen:

AT this second appearing to take the oath of the Presidential office there is less occasion for an extended address than there was at the first. Then a statement somewhat in detail of a course to be pursued seemed fitting and proper. Now, at the expiration of four years, during which public declarations have been constantly called forth on every point and phase of the great contest which still absorbs the attention and engrosses the energies of the nation, little that is new could be presented. The progress of our arms, upon which all else chiefly depends, is as well known to the public as to myself, and it is, I trust, reasonably satisfactory and encouraging to all. With high hope for the future, no prediction in regard to it is ventured. 1
On the occasion corresponding to this four years ago all thoughts were anxiously directed to an impending civil war. All dreaded it, all sought to avert it. While the inaugural address was being delivered from this place, devoted altogether to saving the Union without war, urgent agents were in the city seeking to destroy it without war—seeking to dissolve the Union and divide effects by negotiation. Both parties deprecated war, but one of them would make war rather than let the nation survive, and the other would accept war rather than let it perish, and the war came. 2
One-eighth of the whole population were colored slaves, not distributed generally over the Union, but localized in the southern part of it. These slaves constituted a peculiar and powerful interest. All knew that this interest was somehow the cause of the war. To strengthen, perpetuate, and extend this interest was the object for which the insurgents would rend the Union even by war, while the Government claimed no right to do more than to restrict the territorial enlargement of it. Neither party expected for the war the magnitude or the duration which it has already attained. Neither anticipated that the cause of the conflict might cease with or even before the conflict itself should cease. Each looked for an easier triumph, and a result less fundamental and astounding. Both read the same Bible and pray to the same God, and each invokes His aid against the other. It may seem strange that any men should dare to ask a just God’s assistance in wringing their bread from the sweat of other men’s faces, but let us judge not, that we be not judged. The prayers of both could not be answered. That of neither has been answered fully. The Almighty has His own purposes. “Woe unto the world because of offenses; for it must needs be that offenses come, but woe to that man by whom the offense cometh.” If we shall suppose that American slavery is one of those offenses which, in the providence of God, must needs come, but which, having continued through His appointed time, He now wills to remove, and that He gives to both North and South this terrible war as the woe due to those by whom the offense came, shall we discern therein any departure from those divine attributes which the believers in a living God always ascribe to Him? Fondly do we hope, fervently do we pray, that this mighty scourge of war may speedily pass away. Yet, if God wills that it continue until all the wealth piled by the bondsman’s two hundred and fifty years of unrequited toil shall be sunk, and until every drop of blood drawn with the lash shall be paid by another drawn with the sword, as was said three thousand years ago, so still it must be said “the judgments of the Lord are true and righteous altogether.” 3
With malice toward none, with charity for all, with firmness in the right as God gives us to see the right, let us strive on to finish the work we are in, to bind up the nation’s wounds, to care for him who shall have borne the battle and for his widow and his orphan, to do all which may achieve and cherish a just and lasting peace among ourselves and with all nations.

14 mentions of God.

Akzed on August 30, 2010 at 4:05 PM

Not “Sacred” sacred, but like Sacred Progressive or Sacred Communist.
barnone on August 30, 2010 at 3:52 PM

That should be Sacred Oppressive or Sacred Communist.
To the Leftist Oppressives, their god is Big Government.

Chip on August 30, 2010 at 4:05 PM

Beck slams Bush and talks about what a horrible person he is, he might remember that George Bush is a Christian who did not hide his faith or apologize for it and as such deserves some credit for trying to remain true to his God. I know Beck won’t do that, but it would be the Christian thing to do.

Terrye on August 30, 2010 at 4:00 PM

That would be a good argument if Bush was a preacher rather than a president.

sharrukin on August 30, 2010 at 4:06 PM

Who is Bill Press?

Blarg the Destroyer on August 30, 2010 at 4:06 PM

In Obama We Trust

/moonbat

The Mega Independent on August 30, 2010 at 4:07 PM

Press reveals himself to be a typical libtard anti-Christ.

Akzed on August 30, 2010 at 4:07 PM

Bahahahahahaha! These morons are coming apart at the seams. Bill Press is cracking up! Bahahahahahahaha!!!

TN Mom on August 30, 2010 at 4:07 PM

Er, it’s too “sacred” for God? Maybe Bill should check his thesaurus:

Not to mention the 1st amendment.

slug on August 30, 2010 at 4:08 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dx_UJxuQGXo&feature

mad saint jack on August 30, 2010 at 4:08 PM

Hey, “Rev.” Sharpton’s counter-demonstration was at Dunbar High, a public school.

Akzed on August 30, 2010 at 4:09 PM

What can we talk about at the Lincoln Memorial? Is there a list somewhere? I’m get really tired of the liberals always making up new rules as they go to try and repress the people. This guy is dumber than Bob Brenly on the unwritten rules of baseball. By the way Bill, for the majority of Americans, Sunday is the sabbath.

Tommy_G on August 30, 2010 at 4:09 PM

So what does make Press claim that Beck was committing sacrilege by holding a rally about faith in the American life? Perhaps the fact that Press couldn’t comprehend the subject matter.

Liberals defy reason, superior as they claim to be, and so erudite.

Logic is indignant.

Schadenfreude on August 30, 2010 at 4:09 PM

Oh, but ask the idiot how he feels about the GZM.

Schadenfreude on August 30, 2010 at 4:10 PM

http://www.usconstitution.net/dream.html

“Now is the time to make justice a reality for all of God’s children.”

“This will be the day when all of God’s children will be able to sing with a new meaning, …”

“And when this happens, when we allow freedom to ring, when we let it ring from every village and every hamlet, from every state and every city, we will be able to speed up that day when all of God’s children, black men and white men, Jews and Gentiles, Protestants and Catholics, will be able to join hands and sing in the words of the old Negro spiritual, “Free at last! free at last! thank God Almighty, we are free at last!” ”

Bill Press needs to shut his lying marxist piehole

rayra on August 30, 2010 at 4:10 PM

Just what we need, another BP disaster.

fogw on August 30, 2010 at 4:10 PM

a foolish question: Why are liberals so dimwitted?
chai on August 30, 2010 at 4:02 PM

When you’re certain you’re right about everything, you feel no need to learn about anything.

Akzed on August 30, 2010 at 4:11 PM

Who is Bill Press?

Blarg the Destroyer on August 30, 2010 at 4:06 PM

He’s a demented Leftist with a radio show nobody listens to, an author of books no one reads, and a commentator no one even knows exists until he opens his mouth and spews deliberate hate-filled vitriol as this….and for the record, he’s also a man who in his wildest, Marxist dreams could never inspire people by the hundreds of thousands, make that millions across the country,to gather in unity for a greater purpose like Glenn Beck has. This is basically all you need to know.

RepubChica on August 30, 2010 at 4:12 PM

I do think however, that the next time Beck slams Bush and talks about what a horrible person he is, he might remember that George Bush is a Christian who did not hide his faith or apologize for it and as such deserves some credit for trying to remain true to his God. I know Beck won’t do that, but it would be the Christian thing to do.

Terrye on August 30, 2010 at 4:00 PM

Beck’s not Christian, he is Mormon, which may be a fine religion and have fine individuals practicing the religion, but it is not Christian as understood by Christians.

Monkeytoe on August 30, 2010 at 4:13 PM

Some of these “progressives” are quite literally insane.

And I am not joking.

I don’t know how people like Press are even able to tie their shoes in the morning.

ghost707 on August 30, 2010 at 4:13 PM

Bill Press: Talking about God not appropriate for “sacred” spot

Riiiight… that’s why MLK didn’t go there for his “I have a dream” rally.

Moron.

petefrt on August 30, 2010 at 4:13 PM

I love these lefties coming out of the woodwork all butthurt about this whole Glenn Beck thing.

They will tell us what/who they fear.

rollthedice on August 30, 2010 at 4:14 PM

Bill Press talks about sacredidity the way Radar O’Reilly talked about nakedidity.

J.E. Dyer on August 30, 2010 at 4:14 PM

dczombie on August 30, 2010 at 3:54 PM

In addition to the Second Inaugural Address, the Gettysburg Address is also inscribed in the Lincoln Memorial.

Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent a new nation, conceived in liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.

Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether that nation, or any nation, so conceived and so dedicated, can long endure. We are met on a great battle-field of that war. We have come to dedicate a portion of that field, as a final resting place for those who here gave their lives that that nation might live. It is altogether fitting and proper that we should do this.

But, in a larger sense, we can not dedicate, we can not consecrate, we can not hallow this ground. The brave men, living and dead, who struggled here, have consecrated it, far above our poor power to add or detract. The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here, but it can never forget what they did here. It is for us the living, rather, to be dedicated here to the unfinished work which they who fought here have thus far so nobly advanced. It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us—that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion—that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain—that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom—and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.

Give Bill Press a chisel and tell him to get to work!! Abe Lincoln’s words are not appropriate!!

INC on August 30, 2010 at 4:16 PM

Bill Press talks about sacredidity the way Radar O’Reilly talked about nakedidity.

J.E. Dyer on August 30, 2010 at 4:14 PM

winner. shut ‘er down Ed.

ted c on August 30, 2010 at 4:16 PM

dczombie on August 30, 2010 at 3:54 PM

In addition to the Second Inaugural Address, the Gettysburg Address is also inscribed in the Lincoln Memorial.

Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent a new nation, conceived in liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.

Now we are engaged in a great c!v!l war, testing whether that nation, or any nation, so conceived and so dedicated, can long endure. We are met on a great battle-field of that war. We have come to dedicate a portion of that field, as a final resting place for those who here gave their lives that that nation might live. It is altogether fitting and proper that we should do this.

But, in a larger sense, we can not dedicate, we can not consecrate, we can not hallow this ground. The brave men, living and dead, who struggled here, have consecrated it, far above our poor power to add or detract. The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here, but it can never forget what they did here. It is for us the living, rather, to be dedicated here to the unfinished work which they who fought here have thus far so nobly advanced. It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us—that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion—that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain—that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom—and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.

Give Bill Press a chisel and tell him to get to work!! Abe Lincoln’s words are not appropriate!!

(Incidentally, it is outrageous that the HA filter means I had to quote Lincoln’s words as “c!v!l war”!)

INC on August 30, 2010 at 4:17 PM

There are references to God throughout Reverend King’s speech. Bill Press is a damned fool.

rayra on August 30, 2010 at 4:19 PM

Press must have used Google to search for the spot, and seen the FDR memorial. That would explain his reference to a sacred spot – FDR certainly ranks higher than God to him.

Vashta.Nerada on August 30, 2010 at 4:19 PM

Maybe Bill should check his thesaurus

Maybe Bill should have a new doctor check his meds.

Tav on August 30, 2010 at 4:19 PM

He is an embarrassment.

WisCon on August 30, 2010 at 4:19 PM

On two walls of the Lincoln Memorial are inscribed speeches by Abraham Lincoln (his Gettysburg Address and his Second Inaugural Address). Both of these speeches give a prominent place to that whom Mr. Press thinks we should not mention. Mr. Press needs to go to the Lincoln Memorial. And, before he goes, since it will not be up upon the walls of the monument, let him read the words of Martin Luther King’s “I have a Dream” speech delivered at the Memorial, in which Mr. King reminds us, using the word Mr. Press doesn’t think should be mentioned, that we are all brothers and sisters.

unclesmrgol on August 30, 2010 at 4:20 PM

President Obama held a huge celebration for himself just before he was inaugurated. He stood on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial and said:

the voices of men and women who have different stories but hold common hopes; who ask only for what was promised us as Americans — that we might make of our lives what we will and see our children climb higher than we did.

It is this thread that binds us together in common effort; that runs through every memorial on this mall; that connects us to all those who struggled and sacrificed and stood here before.

It is how this nation has overcome the greatest differences and the longest odds — because there is no obstacle that can stand in the way of millions of voices calling for change.

That is the belief with which we began this campaign, and that is how we will overcome what ails us now. There is no doubt that our road will be long, that our climb will be steep. But never forget that the true character of our nation is revealed not during times of comfort and ease, but by the right we do when the moment is hard. I ask you to help reveal that character once more, and together, we can carry forward as one nation, and one people, the legacy of our forefathers that we celebrate today.

Thank you, America. God bless you.

Politics, God, and Rock and Roll. All there on sacred ground.

MayBee on August 30, 2010 at 4:21 PM

INC on August 30, 2010 at 4:17 PM

Put the words you really want to put, and Ed or Allah will pass it. I’ve been through the same crucible.

unclesmrgol on August 30, 2010 at 4:22 PM

OMG! What an idiot!

tinkerthinker on August 30, 2010 at 4:23 PM

Beck slams Bush and talks about what a horrible person he is, he might remember that George Bush is a Christian who did not hide his faith or apologize for it and as such deserves some credit for trying to remain true to his God. I know Beck won’t do that, but it would be the Christian thing to do.

Terrye on August 30, 2010 at 4:00 PM

That would be a good argument if Bush was a preacher rather than a president.

sharrukin on August 30, 2010 at 4:06 PM

And is Beck a preacher? My point is that Beck seems to think that America has strayed from God..and yet Bush was a very religious man who made a point of standing for the rights of the unborn and who never hid the fact that he allowed his faith and his belief in God to sustain him during his time in office. When Beck starts going after Bush he sounds just like the Democrats who are always attacking him and he seems to not care a bit about his faith.

Terrye on August 30, 2010 at 4:24 PM

Beck’s not Christian, he is Mormon, which may be a fine religion and have fine individuals practicing the religion, but it is not Christian as understood by Christians.

Monkeytoe on August 30, 2010 at 4:13 PM

I don’t think that is true.

I am just doing what I always do, whining about Beck. I can’t help it, I don’t trust the man. But it has nothing to do with the fact that he is a Mormon. Maybe he reminds me of my first husband or something.

Terrye on August 30, 2010 at 4:27 PM

Back when the Adults were in charge, Bill Press fell hook, line and sinker for the “Lovenstein Institute” hoax.

For those not familiar with this hilarious scam, some BDS-addled Leftists concocted a fake study of the IQs of our Presidents, and a fake institution to make it look legit. The fake “study” concluded that Chimpy Bush had the lowest IQ of any President.

When he found out he’d been had, Bill did the only thing he could. He blamed Bush for his own stupidity.

This parting shot is dedicated to all those hundreds of people who emailed me about Bush’s IQ.

Okay, I’ll make a deal with you.

I’ll admit I was wrong. I goofed. I cited a study ranking George Bush as having the lowest IQ of any of the last 12 presidents. Bill Clinton, scoring the highest. As I later discovered, that study was bogus. There is no so-called Lovenstein Institute.

Again, I’ll admit I was wrong.

But you’ve got to admit: It sure is believable. Does anybody doubt that Bill Clinton’s the smartest – and George Bush is the dumbest? Just look at his record.

Iraq. That dumbbell took us to war to get rid of WMD that didn’t even exist.

The Middle East. He’s so dumb he doesn’t know the first step toward ending a war is for both sides to stop shooting.

Global warming. Miami will be underwater before he realizes there’s a problem.

The budget. He couldn’t balance a budget if his job depended on it. Too bad it doesn’t.

See what I mean? Who needs a study? It’s self-evident.

George Bush is not only the dumbest of all 12 presidents since World War II.

He’ll go down in history – as the dumbest president…ever!

Can’t make this stuff up kids.

Del Dolemonte on August 30, 2010 at 4:28 PM

BEsides the Gettyburg Address, Lincoln’s second inaugural address is inscribed within the Memorial. It contains half a dozen references to God.

http://www.bartleby.com/124/pres32.html

rayra on August 30, 2010 at 4:29 PM

Is there a bigger blowhard than Bill Press?

moochy on August 30, 2010 at 4:29 PM

He is an embarrassment. WisCon on August 30, 2010 at 4:19 PM

Huh? To whom? Not to me, I don’t care how much of a jackass he makes of himself, and his libtard colleagues have no shame, so, literally no one is embarrassed by this moron!

Akzed on August 30, 2010 at 4:29 PM

Monkeytoe on August 30, 2010 at 4:13 PM

That is YOUR opinion not everyone’s.

katiejane on August 30, 2010 at 4:30 PM

My favorite is the last part of his argument: “…can’t criticize President Obama 5 days a week… then stand up on the Sabbath & be non-political.”

OK, gotcha there, Bill ;o)

sbugzmom on August 30, 2010 at 4:30 PM

Del Dolemonte on August 30, 2010 at 4:28 PM

Ahh… “plausibly true” — which is not the same thing as “true”.

unclesmrgol on August 30, 2010 at 4:31 PM

Listen friends, every leader has a philosophy of governance based on first principles, and thus every government is a form of theocracy.

The question: is which theocracy is nearest to the truth about man and his ultimate concerns?

So far, the theocracy of Secular Enlightenment has been a disaster for the world. Most thoughtful people can admit that much.

jeff_from_mpls on August 30, 2010 at 4:33 PM

And is Beck a preacher?

He doesn’t need to be a preacher to criticize Bush and his presidency. He doesn’t need to be a preacher to criticize public morality.

My point is that Beck seems to think that America has strayed from God..and yet Bush was a very religious man who made a point of standing for the rights of the unborn and who never hid the fact that he allowed his faith and his belief in God to sustain him during his time in office.

America and Bush are two distinct things.

When Beck starts going after Bush he sounds just like the Democrats who are always attacking him and he seems to not care a bit about his faith.

Terrye on August 30, 2010 at 4:24 PM

Bush has things he should be criticized for. I don’t listen to Beck so I don’t know if Beck is saying Bush is a bad Christian or not. If he has done so, perhaps he shouldn’t.

sharrukin on August 30, 2010 at 4:34 PM

Beck’s not Christian, he is Mormon, which may be a fine religion and have fine individuals practicing the religion, but it is not Christian as understood by Christians.

Monkeytoe on August 30, 2010 at 4:13 PM

Are you reprising the role of Umar or Ali?

Tav on August 30, 2010 at 4:34 PM

Heh. Press is not only unfamiliar with the meaning of the word sacred, but is apparently unfamiliar with any of President Lincoln’s work, as well.

What we have here is the same old same old: I may not know anything about the constitution or American history, but I know what I like!

Jaibones on August 30, 2010 at 4:39 PM

Lefties like Press have lost their collective minds. It is obvious to rational person who saw the rally that is was not political. Indeed it was a combo tent meeting and patriotic cheer session. The speakers were classy, and the crowd enthusiastic and respectful. The mall wasn’t even trashed at the end of the day.

simkeith on August 30, 2010 at 4:39 PM

Beck’s not Christian, he is Mormon, which may be a fine religion and have fine individuals practicing the religion, but it is not Christian as understood by Christians.

Monkeytoe on August 30, 2010 at 4:13 PM

Well, I have listened to Beck and when says there is no difference between the parties, that there is no difference between Cheney and Reid and that Bush should be impeached for the Patriot Act or whatever, I just roll my eyes.

And I did not say that Beck had to be a preacher to criticize Bush…I said that if felt that America has strayed from God that perhaps he should give Bush some credit for being true to his faith…since it is something that Beck makes a point of saying is important.

And of course America and Bush are two distinct things, so are America and Glenn Beck. So what?

Terrye on August 30, 2010 at 4:41 PM

Sacred for me, but not for thee.

Progressivethink.

profitsbeard on August 30, 2010 at 4:41 PM

Stalin had lots of Bill Presses.

Blake on August 30, 2010 at 4:42 PM

You can’t fight in here, this is the war room!

DailyDanet on August 30, 2010 at 4:44 PM

To Bill Press, God = Obama.

albill on August 30, 2010 at 4:45 PM

Bush has things he should be criticized for. I don’t listen to Beck so I don’t know if Beck is saying Bush is a bad Christian or not. If he has done so, perhaps he shouldn’t.

sharrukin on August 30, 2010 at 4:34 PM

Well, I have listened to Beck and when says there is no difference between the parties, that there is no difference between Cheney and Reid and that Bush should be impeached for the Patriot Act or whatever, I just roll my eyes.

And I did not say that Beck had to be a preacher to criticize Bush…I said that if felt that America has strayed from God that perhaps he should give Bush some credit for being true to his faith…since it is something that Beck makes a point of saying is important.

And of course America and Bush are two distinct things, so are America and Glenn Beck. So what?

Terrye on August 30, 2010 at 4:41 PM

Terrye on August 30, 2010 at 4:45 PM

Am I the ONLY one to notice that NONE of the newspaper reviews, or tv shows, reporting on the Beck event have mentioned the winners of the FAITH, HOPE, and CHARITY awards?

I only saw ONE reference the the military heroes that appeared at the event.

And yet, these talking heads, newspaper columnists, and bloggers, continue to rant about an event they clearly did not watch.

Freddy on August 30, 2010 at 4:49 PM

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