The Honor of a Great People

posted at 12:00 pm on August 29, 2010 by Doctor Zero

Three hundred thousand people gathered in the Washington Mall on August 28, at the invitation of radio and TV host Glenn Beck, to discuss restoring the honor of the American people.  How did a great people come to lose their honor?

It certainly hasn’t been lost by all of us.  Individuals, families, and communities across America never broke faith with the noble traditions of self-reliance, responsibility, and adventure that forged this honorable nation.  Such people can be found in every neighborhood of every city… but the nation as a whole has lost its way.

We dishonor ourselves when we tolerate the use of our fighting men and women as pawns in a political game.  As long as they stand in harm’s way, we should accept no insult or slander against them.  Robust criticism of the policy makers who declare and end hostilities is fair and welcome… but there is a line between politicians and soldiers, and it is easily visible to honorable people.  We should have nothing but contempt for the likes of Code Pink.  Illinois Senator Dick Durbin’s political career should have ended the day after he compared our service members to Nazis.  There is no place for such creatures in the Congress of a nation that answers the dedication and sacrifice of its veterans with love and respect.  In a rough economy with an uncertain future, Beck’s rally raised $5.5 million to help the families of special-operations soldiers killed in battle.  That is a strong step in the right direction.

We dishonor ourselves when we create massive obligations with unsustainable financing.  This shows disrespect to the future, and a craven refusal to face the realities of today.  If time is money, then madcap deficit spending steals the time of the future… draining it away like so much sand down the neck of a broken hourglass.  As parents love their children, we should be mindful of the future, and eager to shoulder our current burdens instead of passing them along, with interest.  We cannot know the shape of tomorrow, or what hardships they may be facing when the bills for our indulgences come due.

We dishonor ourselves when we declare the rights and freedoms of our fellow citizens to be conditional, and subject to our needs.  Free people do not expect the State to confiscate and ration.  They don’t subcontract the design of the future to political appointees.  They understand such designs require obedience, and obedience requires compulsion.  You cannot “honor” a neighbor you deem unfit to manage his own affairs.  There is no honor to be found in the pursuit of a perfect State to rule an inadequate people.

We dishonor ourselves when we embrace death as the solution to inconvenient people.

We dishonor ourselves when we deny the possibility of progress to embrace tribal hatreds.  Race and feminist hustlers peddle a message that says the vast majority of people cannot be trusted to show common decency to minorities and women.  We’ve had enough of this toxic superstition.  Precious lives have been wasted, and ended, because there is power and profit to be gained in pretending the Civil Rights Act happened yesterday, and slavery ended the day before that.  Where is the honor In shrieking that people who disagree with your politics are “interchangeable with the KKK?”  An ideology so weak that it must resort to these underhanded tactics is garbage unfit for the intellectual consumption of a proud people.  Those who are foolish enough to ignore the evidence of their eyes and ears, and consume that garbage, will rediscover their honor after they find their self-respect.

Most crucially, we dishonor ourselves when we forget we “have the same steel spine and the moral courage of Washington and Lincoln and Martin Luther King,” as Sarah Palin said at the Restoring Honor rally.  We remain the proud inheritors of a revolutionary philosophy, the children of vision and industry.  We have not diminished into timid weaklings, unworthy of the trust of our ruling class.  Our land is still abundant, and filled with parents who want to make a better life for their children.  Why should we listen to assurances that our future will be one of decline, where children hear their parents mourn better times from distant memory?  Why should we accept that ten percent and more of our population must remain unemployed forever?  Why should we excuse the failure of an incompetent Administration by believing we became helpless and destitute in just a few short years, and are now obliged to provide limitless resources to our caretakers?

We have listened too long to the poisonous whispers of those who say we’re too old and feeble to stand up and deal with our own problems.  The doom they have written for us can be swept aside like so many cobwebs.  Honorable people do not fear risk and challenge.  We dishonor ourselves by believing we have no moral claim on the entirety of our labor, or responsibility for the maintenance of our needs.  We dishonor ourselves by paying trillions to hear the same old fairy tale about limitless entitlements distributed by friendly giants wearing power ties.  The American people have wasted enough time reading the elaborate limited warranty on the inside of the coffin lid our Left is preparing to nail shut.

We reclaim our honor by turning away from those who believe the great mass of us are beneath their contempt, and compassion is best expressed through domination.  They have no power we didn’t give them, which means they have no power we cannot take away.  Let us begin.

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We dishonor Dr. Zero by responding to trolls.

DrStock on August 29, 2010 at 2:33 PM

We dishonor Dr. Zero by responding to trolls.

DrStock on August 29, 2010 at 2:33 PM

Trolls are Nazis.

unclesmrgol on August 29, 2010 at 2:38 PM

Like, say denying people the right to build a community center blocks away from ground zero because it hurts your feelings and your feelings are somehow more important than others’ rights and freedoms.

That kind of conditional bullsh*t?

Dave Rywall on August 29, 2010 at 12:21 PM

No one is ‘denying people the right’ to build. Rather, some have suggested that it’s a bad thing to do, and it is morally wrong. You miss that point, eihther by choice, or by a lack of capacity to see truth.

massrighty on August 29, 2010 at 2:38 PM

Well said, Dr. Zero.

rbj on August 29, 2010 at 2:46 PM

JetBoy on August 29, 2010 at 1:12 PM

But, but, but, yesterday, you were outed as a lefty troll!

/sarc

massrighty on August 29, 2010 at 2:53 PM

Why does anyone care what a Canadian Surrender Monkey has to say about our country? No free speech, no right to bear arms and they are handing their country over to Sharia Law like a bunch of little pansies.

SurferDoc on August 29, 2010 at 2:55 PM

I honestly agree with Glen Beck on an important issue. It really does come down to the individual.

It really is about character, and I don’t think any politician gets to tout the US if people aren’t really worthy.

It is about honesty, equality, faith, justice….and people who cheat the system are the real problem.

And I happen to think that there are loads of them today.

They justify and rationalize.

And they are not in contact with their higher power, and I would care what religion that connects to. Religion is simply a support for that spirit.

They are bereft.

I didn’t think the huge gathering proved much, really, other than people do sort of get that message.

It is truly up to people to figure this out. You “snark” in the name of your politics, don’t be silly. You’re really just snarking.

You cheat the IRS, don’t be silly, you’re violating the law.

You decide you’re above other laws, don’t be silly, you’re just another criminal similar to illegal aliens and drug dealers.

Knock off the pretensions, folks.

AnninCA on August 29, 2010 at 3:01 PM

I agree with others here who are asking to keep this thread from being hijacked, don’t respond to the attempts to do so.

Jvette on August 29, 2010 at 3:05 PM

Yes, honor must be restored.

However, we the people should not be sanctimoniously casting stones at politicians only. We must shoulder the blame (we elected them, after all) and restore OUR honor first.

We increased our residential mortgage debt from $5 trillion to $11 trillion in 8 short years from 2000 – 2008.

Again, we increased our national residential mortgage debt BY 6 trillion dollars in less than a decade.

It took us 100’s of years to get to 5 trillion. It took us 8 years to more than double that number to 11 trillion!

Before you yell “Bush’s fault” because that 6 trillion in mortgage debt was spent on his watch. Don’t. The idea that the average Joe has the “right” to have everything without having to earn it has been building for many decades.

It is not a right or left thing. It is a national moral fabric deterioration thing.

We also increased our consumer-related debt from $800 billion in 1990 (Ahhh billions, how quaint!) to $2.5 trillion in 2008.

We have racked-up approximately $14 trillion in combined residential and consumer-related debt just as private consumers! One trillion is $1 per second for 32,000 years.

That does not even start to address our commercial real estate debt, public pension debt, union pension debt, municipal debt, corporate debt or any of the trillions of dollars in various other debts.

We allowed politicians and special interests to create unfunded liability after unfunded liability (giant public candy bowls) that will bankrupt our country… and we expect a tiny percentage of our fellow citizens to pay the bill.

But the bill is so large that it cannot be paid, even if we confiscate 100% of those “evil” rich people’s money, so we borrow from other nations, at the expense of our children and their children, who will undoubtedly have to default one day on this unpayable debt. We are acting as a nation like what we love to rail against all day on threads like this one: a “deadbeat”.

Victory has a thousand fathers, but defeat is an orphan. That has never been truer than right now. No one wants to take responsibility for this debt crisis. It was a group effort, gang.

As far as guarding our freedom goes, to say that we have dropped the ball is generous in the extreme.

We have allowed politicians and special interests to fashion a tax code that divides us, robs (some of) us, kills jobs, wastes money and corrupts the citizenry.

We allowed politicians and special interests to take over our schools and dumb-down multiple generations (only 25% of 2010 high school graduates could pass the test to be admitted to a basic entry-level college course). That is national child abuse.

We hold “non-profit” up on a pedestal and condemn those who seek to make a profit as selfish.

We allowed politicians and special interests to pass thousands upon thousands of laws EVERY YEAR that suffocate our “golden goose”: Entrepreneurship. Not to mention the millions of frivolous lawsuits that enrich a few and send tens of millions of jobs to more business-friendly shores.

We allow legal bribery through PAC money. Laws should be passed because they affect/benefit EVERY CITIZEN equally, not just the ones who contributed the most to a particular PAC. We were intended to be a republic. We have allowed ourselves to become a mob-rule social democracy.

I can go on and on with this list of what we the people have done and/or allowed. Elections AND OUR OWN ACTIONS have consequences and we are reaping those consequences.

Restoring honor starts with each one of us as individuals.

Quit the finger-pointing and do the right thing, whether you stand to benefit from it or not. Do what is right.

That is honor.

painesright on August 29, 2010 at 3:14 PM


I guess it’s too much to ask for you to pay fu*king attention since they already got approval about a month ago.

Dave Rywall on August 29, 2010 at 12:57 PM

Yeh that changes the whole point now doesn’t it?/sarc

You’re an idiot.

CWforFreedom on August 29, 2010 at 3:19 PM

Like, say denying people the right to build a community center blocks away from ground zero because it hurts your feelings and your feelings are somehow more important than others’ rights and freedoms.

That kind of conditional bullsh*t?

Dave Rywall on August 29, 2010 at 12:21 PM

You don’t have to agree with the premise that building the Mosque there constitutes a “win” for Jihad, if you don’t want to.

But I’m not going to stop refering to it as the “Kamikazi Victory Mosque”, either.

listens2glenn on August 29, 2010 at 3:19 PM

But, but, but, yesterday, you were outed as a lefty troll!

/sarc

massrighty on August 29, 2010 at 2:53 PM

I’m so misunderstood. :)

JetBoy on August 29, 2010 at 3:19 PM

I’m so misunderstood. :)

JetBoy on August 29, 2010 at 3:19 PM

You leftists always have excuses. /

CWforFreedom on August 29, 2010 at 3:21 PM

just stop.

ernesto on August 29, 2010 at 12:55 PM

when you quit lying and being obtuse ..i will stop. not til then s-bag

CWforFreedom on August 29, 2010 at 3:27 PM

I’m so misunderstood. :)

JetBoy on August 29, 2010 at 3:19 PM

That was an amusingly surreal exchange yesterday. People who have disagreed with you extensively were forced to defend you from a spurious charge of trolldom.

massrighty on August 29, 2010 at 3:28 PM

Davey you luck pretty stupid right about NOW: http://chicagoist.com/2010/08/27/local_mosques_denied_permits.php

CWforFreedom on August 29, 2010 at 3:37 PM

I didn’t think the huge gathering proved much, really, other than people do sort of get that message.

AnninCA on August 29, 2010 at 3:01 PM

That many people gathered in one place believing that restoring honor and returning to a foundation in God is a very powerful message to the left and politicians in general.

For every person that showed up, there are thousands that didn’t who believe the same thing.

darwin on August 29, 2010 at 3:40 PM

A-Fightin’-MEN!

Maquis on August 29, 2010 at 3:42 PM

The GOP’s platform lines up almost exactly with your here essay, except for the whole not using soldiers as pawns and being reckless with the nations financial future.

ernesto on August 29, 2010 at 12:31 PM

“using soldiers as pawns and being reckless with the nations financial future”?

I think that’s spelled O-B-A-M-A.

Tav on August 29, 2010 at 3:48 PM

That was an amusingly surreal exchange yesterday. People who have disagreed with you extensively were forced to defend you from a spurious charge of trolldom.

massrighty on August 29, 2010 at 3:28 PM

It’s generally good people here…even in disagreement on some issues. I think we’re all a little high strung given the direction the country is being dragged in by the Left. Which is why I so strongly pushed or McCain during the general election.

Anyhoo, hopefully Ed will be posting up the weekend football threads soon…now there’s some arguing I can get into!

You leftists always have excuses. /

CWforFreedom on August 29, 2010 at 3:21 PM

Shush up yoooo ;)

JetBoy on August 29, 2010 at 3:48 PM

Anyhoo, hopefully Ed will be posting up the weekend football threads soon…now there’s some arguing I can get into!

JetBoy on August 29, 2010 at 3:48 PM

Just as long as you’re not a Cowboys fan.

rbj on August 29, 2010 at 3:58 PM

Like, say denying people the right to build a community center blocks away from ground zero because it hurts your feelings and your feelings are somehow more important than others’ rights and freedoms.

That kind of conditional bullsh*t?

Dave Rywall on August 29, 2010 at 12:21 PM

This “community center”, as you call it, of yours is being funded by the Saudis who do not believe in religious freedom, even for muslims, and do believe in keeping human beings as property. You can be sure that it will be promoting shariah and not the U.S. Constitution. Abraham Lincoln weeps. Martin Luther King weeps.

Tav on August 29, 2010 at 3:59 PM

Davey must go ballistic whenever a group tries to boycott a company as those boycotting obviously are denying the rights of the companies to pursue trade.

CWforFreedom on August 29, 2010 at 4:04 PM

Nicely stated Doc Zero..
Rywall, you really are a nutter.

Keemo on August 29, 2010 at 4:07 PM

Just as long as you’re not a Cowboys fan.

rbj on August 29, 2010 at 3:58 PM

Puh-leeze. I have some class.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kD_DdSz7PjE

JetBoy on August 29, 2010 at 4:08 PM

As a nation, we’re economically illiterate and we’re bad at math. There is no metaphysical solution to the problems this causes. The best conservatives can do — which I have to admit most of the Tea Party was doing until yesterday — is to educate the public on why free market solutions are usually better than “statist” ones (or whatever you want to call it). I’m deeply suspicious that all this “restoring honor” stuff is just an attempt to invite social conservatism back into the debate through a side door.

RightOFLeft on August 29, 2010 at 4:08 PM

The 19th century German philosopher Arthur Schopenhauer said – Honor means that a man is not exceptional; fame, that he is. Fame is something which must be won; honor, only something which must not be lost.

I don’t really see this “Restoring Honor” slant. I have no less, nor more, honor, than I had 2 years or 5 years or 10 years ago. “Restoring Honor” seems a trifle egotistical. It’s Liberty and the Constitution and some common sense that need some of this restoring.

Tav on August 29, 2010 at 4:15 PM

Davey hurry jump in your Wahhhhmbulance.

A mosque in Kentucky was denied a permit. I guess they have had their rights trampled.

http://www.wave3.com/Global/story.asp?S=13038867

Davey and Denmark too is
EVIL:http://europenews.dk/en/node/1862

Oh and the Germans too ohhhhhh nooooooooooooo

http://www.omaha.com/article/20100809/AP15/308099976

CWforFreedom on August 29, 2010 at 4:15 PM

The political cartoon today in the Seattle Times was a picture of Beck standing before signs that read “Fear” “Hate” and “Bigotry”, and Beck was saying “I have a scheme!”

John the Libertarian on August 29, 2010 at 4:19 PM

But I’m not going to stop refering to it as the “Kamikazi Victory Mosque”, either.

listens2glenn on August 29, 2010 at 3:19 PM

I will call it the SCAM (Shariah Compliant Asaualt Mosque).

Tav on August 29, 2010 at 4:28 PM

KVM-SCAM sounds like some kind of offensive missile, which in fact it is.

Tav on August 29, 2010 at 4:30 PM

That many people gathered in one place believing that restoring honor and returning to a foundation in God is a very powerful message to the left and politicians in general.

Wherever two or more are gathered together in my name, there I am among them.
It was a very powerful message to everyone who heard and saw it, and not simply because Glenn was there or Sarah was there or half a million people were there, but because Who else was there.

txmomof6 on August 29, 2010 at 4:37 PM

I’m calling bullsh*t on a huckster dj who’s laughing all the way to the bank on your dime.

Dave Rywall on August 29, 2010 at 12:53 PM

HEY CHUMP! You’re in the wrong line of work.

You need to be working as an auditor for the IRS.

THEN you can perform an audit of Glenn Beck right down to the minutist little itty-bitty insignificant detail, in fact you can take as long as you want doing it.

THEN you can come back here and talk to us, with a little more weight of credibility, about Glenn’s status as a “huckster”.

Also, if you could raise $5.5 mil for the SOWF with less deception and chicanery, that would help too.

listens2glenn on August 29, 2010 at 4:55 PM

Wherever two or more are gathered together in my name, there I am among them.
It was a very powerful message to everyone who heard and saw it, and not simply because Glenn was there or Sarah was there or half a million people were there, but because Who else was there.

txmomof6 on August 29, 2010 at 4:37 PM

Beautiful!!!

fourdeucer on August 29, 2010 at 5:06 PM

Afghanistan’s dirty little secret

So, why are American and NATO forces fighting and dying to defend [not only Shariah, but] tens of thousands of proud pedophiles, certainly more per capita than any other place on Earth?

Where is the honor?

Tav on August 29, 2010 at 5:29 PM

painesright on August 29, 2010 at 3:14 PM

Very well written and imo, a bullseye.

tigerlily on August 29, 2010 at 5:30 PM

Wherever two or more are gathered together in my name, there I am among them.
It was a very powerful message to everyone who heard and saw it, and not simply because Glenn was there or Sarah was there or half a million people were there, but because Who else was there.

txmomof6 on August 29, 2010 at 4:37 PM

Exactly.

EternalVigilance on August 29, 2010 at 5:38 PM

Robust criticism of the policy makers who declare and end hostilities is fair and welcome… but there is a line between politicians and soldiers, and it is easily visible to honorable people. We should have nothing but contempt for the likes of Code Pink.

Are today’s Army Generals honorable men? Is it only Code Pink that we should have contempt for?

On the roof, the scouts and I were looking at one another with half-closed, bloodshot eyes when the muezzin in the mosque began chanting in Arabic. His voice streamed from the speakers strapped to the top of the minaret and reverberated off the concrete buildings.

Unlike the call to prayer, there was no “Allahu akbar,” no pause after each recital, just a stream of words that sounded angry but were otherwise unintelligible to me. I checked my watch. It was too early for the second prayer of the day.

Sgt. Lesner, a scout who carried a grenade launcher beneath his carbine, asked, “What’s up with the guy in the mosque freestyling, sir?”

“I don’t know.” I clicked my radio and asked the team downstairs to send Roy to a window so he could hear.

His voice crackled over my handset: “This is not good, sir. The imam is telling the neighborhood to rise up against the Americans. He is calling the men to jihad.”

I ordered the platoon to full security, sent scouts running to grab rockets and extra ammunition from the trucks, and told the scout team leader to get two marksmen ready to fire on the mosque’s speakers. I then radioed headquarters and requested permission to fire. But shooting at a mosque, even one inciting the neighborhood to attack us, would be a public relations nightmare for the Army. Permission was denied, so my men and I sat and listened to the enemy organize an attack.

Tav on August 29, 2010 at 6:02 PM

Afghanistan’s dirty little secret

Tav on August 29, 2010 at 5:29 PM

And for that we are supposed to be tolerant? How does this escape the MSM and those feminists that would prefer to burn their bras and defend the burqa.

fourdeucer on August 29, 2010 at 6:08 PM

Drywall and the rest of the Liberals are having a hard time making arguments against a rally about Restoring Honor. Great post, Doc!

kingsjester on August 29, 2010 at 6:18 PM

The American people have wasted enough time reading the elaborate limited warranty on the inside of the coffin lid our Left is preparing to nail shut.

Well said.

allrsn on August 29, 2010 at 6:24 PM

Afghanistan’s dirty little secret
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/08/28/INF21F2Q9H.DTL

So, why are American and NATO forces fighting and dying to defend [not only Shariah, but] tens of thousands of proud pedophiles, certainly more per capita than any other place on Earth?

Where is the honor?

Tav on August 29, 2010 at 5:29 PM

I knew that all manner of perversion is common to Islam, but didn’t know about this culturally and “religiously” entrenched form of depravity in the form of epidemic and widely practiced homosexual pedophilia in Afghanistan.

Every HotAirian should read the above link. And it should be screenshot and saved, because it will be scrubbed by the Islamist Left as soon as they realize they let it slip past them.

Meanwhile, it dovetails with what went through my mind yesterday when Sarah Palin was honoring wounded and dead veterans at the Lincoln Memorial rally. When she told of the soldier who in split seconds during an explosion looked down to see both of his hands missing, I thought to myself how incredibly horrible that would be to have happen to oneself; what could it be like to see your hands blown off?
It is unfathomable. Then, I said to myself, “why are we STILL losing and maiming our American youth in that backward hellhole?”

Our fighting force is the best in the world. We should never deploy lightly, or for reasons other than the most strategic way possible to defend our nation.

We should know why we are there, what the goal is and when it should be accomplished. Our ROE’s should give our soldiers EVERY advantage.

And if evidence arises that we have deployed troops not for reasons of urgent national defense that cannot be solved ANY OTHER WAY; that it has devolved into a social experiment of “winning hearts and minds” for sharia, then we need to bring our people home!

IMHO there are many ways to win the war on terror, and dying in Afghanistan for a ridiculous strategy of “winning hearts and minds” for a nation of murdering, misogynist homo-pedophiles that we will still allow to live under sharia law, does not come under the heading of going to war to head off an imminent threat to our nation.

Putting American military lives on the line to accomplish what is essentially the job of a social services committee in a war which the CinC refuses to describe with the words “war” and “victory” is a symptom of real decay, deep in the system.

And now we are going to turn our social experiment, carried out in blood and treasure, back over to the Taliban.

We dishonor every person who has served when we turn the most grave of all human endeavors, going to war, into the pretzel logic joke it has become in Afghanistan. The saddest tragedy is that all the sacrifice has been for the wrong reasons, and for naught.

IMO, the best way to honor our servicemen for their sacrifice is to stop the marxist dogs who live on Capitol Hill and at 1600 Pennsylvania from using them as sharia compliant cannon fodder.

tigerlily on August 29, 2010 at 6:33 PM

Hi JetBoy. You and I haven’t “spoken” lately, but I’ve seen you around. Didn’t know you had the troll card played on you but I see you have plenty of defenders. That’s nice to know. Anyway, this is really off thread, and I don’t want to start a conversation to hijack, just a thought that came into my mind suddenly, that I “understood” that I should share with you. It’s just this. Have you ever read the book the “Confessions of St. Augustine”? As a fellow Catholic, I’m sure you’re familiar with him by name, at least.
Long story short, if you’ve never read it, think about picking it up sometime.

Over and out.

tigerlily on August 29, 2010 at 6:42 PM

Just as long as you’re not a Cowboys fan.

rbj on August 29, 2010 at 3:58 PM
Puh-leeze. I have some class.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kD_DdSz7PjE

JetBoy on August 29, 2010 at 4:08 PM

Easy fellas! :)

bluemarlin on August 29, 2010 at 6:43 PM

From one Doctor to another….That was/ is Awesome Zero Doc

I am not a racist on August 29, 2010 at 6:50 PM

Doc, a typically great article. However, you misunderestimated the crowd. If it was less than 600k+, none of us were there.

Willie on August 29, 2010 at 6:54 PM

The American people have wasted enough time reading the elaborate limited warranty on the inside of the coffin lid our Left is preparing to nail shut.

We reclaim our honor by turning away from those who believe the great mass of us are beneath their contempt, and compassion is best expressed through domination. They have no power we didn’t give them, which means they have no power we cannot take away. Let us begin.
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Another masterpiece,as always Doc Z,yes,the Elitism Liberal
Progressives,this round,soooooooo drunk on Social Justice
KOOL_AID,that they are totally oblivious to their madness,

that they alone,by their own hands,have dealt a political
death hand,and DONE THEMSELVES IN!

And,the best part tho,is that the Left have finally awoke
ned a Republican Sleeping Giant,that is now more excited,
and mobilized,that the Left good ever dream!!!!!!

canopfor on August 29, 2010 at 6:58 PM

Dave Rywall on August 29, 2010 at 12:21 PM

Dave, you realize that unless you are a Muslim you won’t be welcome there, you won’t be permitted to enter. You do realize that? You do realize that if it were ANY OTHER religious organization, you would in fact be weicomed. So your support of the mosque is based on constituional rights? We have no argument with that. It is the appropriateness of the placement that is in dispute.
How about Sharpton having a hissy fit yesterday about the Beck rally. Really, wasn’t his feelings just hurt? For all the commentary about Beck’s rally being “overwhelmingly” white, no one noted Sharpton’s very small rally was “overwhelmingly” black. Should my feelings be hurt too?

Willie on August 29, 2010 at 7:00 PM

From one Doctor to another….That was/ is Awesome Zero Doc

I am not a racist on August 29, 2010 at 6:50 PM

I am not a racist:Welcome aboard the USS Hot Air:)

canopfor on August 29, 2010 at 7:06 PM

I didn’t think the huge gathering proved much, really, other than people do sort of get that message.

Knock off the pretensions, folks.

AnninCA on August 29, 2010 at 3:01 PM

What’s wrong, you missed the Obama chanting, when large crowds of Americans used to gather – I remember whenever he used to draw a crowd the MSM had a head count ready LOL!

Pretensions? Obama, Obama, Obama….Hmm…. Hmm… Hmm… Barack Hussein Obama.

Dr Evil on August 29, 2010 at 7:07 PM

CatholicOnline estimated the crowd at 500,000.

iconoclast on August 29, 2010 at 7:13 PM

We dishonor ourselves when we embrace death as the solution to inconvenient people.

Where did this come from, Doc? In its own paragraph without any context. Are you referring to how the left views the ideal solution to Israel (kill all Israelis)? In which case, I heartily agree. Siding with indolent child killers and cowards against the brave, humane, creative, and industrious Israelis because of fear of the child murderers is dishonorable.

iconoclast on August 29, 2010 at 7:17 PM

Willie on August 29, 2010 at 7:00 PM

You do realize you are arguing with a lefty Canuck about domestic USA issues.

Now if we decided to take over Canada (probably would only require a letter), listening to Canadians might be worthwhile. Otherwise…meh

iconoclast on August 29, 2010 at 7:20 PM

iconoclast on August 29, 2010 at 7:17 PM

abortion

John the Libertarian on August 29, 2010 at 7:22 PM

I wonder if Drywall knows that the “Muslim Brotherhood” to which the ground zero Imam so proudly belongs to, collaberated with the Nazis with the blessings of Nassar of Egypt and has always been a violent organization.

And the Nation of Islam in the 60′s also had an unholy alliance with the Nazi party.

The Nazi party did not go away,still alive and well.

concernedsenior on August 29, 2010 at 7:26 PM

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We dishonor ourselves when we embrace death as the solution to inconvenient people.

Where did this come from, Doc? In its own paragraph without any context. Are you referring to how the left views the ideal solution to Israel (kill all Israelis)? In which case, I heartily agree. Siding with indolent child killers and cowards against the brave, humane, creative, and industrious Israelis because of fear of the child murderers is dishonorable.

iconoclast on August 29, 2010 at 7:17 PM

To me it was a reference to abortion.

Slowburn on August 29, 2010 at 7:39 PM

Slowburn on August 29, 2010 at 7:39 PM

Ahh, that makes more sense.

Thanks for helping out this dimwit.

iconoclast on August 29, 2010 at 7:43 PM

Thank you canopfor…enjoy your musings

I am not a racist on August 29, 2010 at 8:02 PM

the tsunami that is coming in November will be wonderful to behold.

Nancy Piglosi will still infest the House of Representatives, of course…just sans gavel!!

Justrand on August 29, 2010 at 8:15 PM

Steelers/Broncos on my Fox, gotta go root for Tebow if he plays. Not a Florida fan, nor a Bronco fan, just want Tebow to do well because the haters on the left don’t.

That being said, I can tell Beck’s rally was a huge success yesterday simply by the MSM’s attempt to minimize everything about it, from the attendance figures (CBS has 87,000 in the headline)to sometimes not even mentioning that this was a charity event to raise money for the children of slain soldiers. We should start a continuing post here – list the talking points or narratives the first time they’re heard, and then fill in the times and dates they’re repeated by the rest of the lapdogs in the MSM. The more Obama and the Dems fail, the more overt the bias becomes,the most unethical era in the history of journalism.

oldoldbabs on August 29, 2010 at 8:21 PM

Thank you canopfor…enjoy your musings

I am not a racist on August 29, 2010 at 8:02 PM

I am not a racist:)

canopfor on August 29, 2010 at 8:21 PM

Like, say denying people the right to build a community center blocks away from ground zero because it hurts your feelings and your feelings are somehow more important than others’ rights and freedoms.

That kind of conditional bullsh*t?

Dave Rywall on August 29, 2010 at 12:21 PM

You’ve just got to love the left’s new-found love for religious expression…and so soon after getting their panties all in a wad over a cross in the Mojave desert. It’s just so…beautiful, huh? LOL

ddrintn on August 29, 2010 at 9:00 PM

Hot d*mn, Doc. Heckuva statement, as always. Have you ever considered offering your services as a speechwriter to the 2012 nominee? Please do!

Animator Girl on August 29, 2010 at 10:09 PM

Like, say denying people the right to build a community center blocks away from ground zero because it hurts your feelings and your feelings are somehow more important than others’ rights and freedoms.

That kind of conditional bullsh*t?

Dave Rywall on August 29, 2010 at 12:21 PM

Do the words “St. Nicholas Eastern Orthodox Church” mean anything to you, libtard?

gryphon202 on August 29, 2010 at 10:40 PM

How droll that leftard pundits like Bill Press believe that the permit for a rally at Lincoln Memorial should be denied because that is “sacred ground”.

The left really doesn’t need much help making fools of themselves.

iconoclast on August 29, 2010 at 10:52 PM

Fine piece, Doc Z.

I can only add:

Nothing has more honor than a grateful heart.” Seneca.

profitsbeard on August 30, 2010 at 12:42 AM

I wonder if it be too much to ask the president to stop lying. It is getting a bit ridiculous.

But character and honor seems to be something Obama is not familiar with, in his messianic stupor.

tarpon on August 30, 2010 at 7:37 AM

It is about honesty, equality, faith, justice….and people who cheat the system are the real problem.

And they are not in contact with their higher power, and I would care what religion that connects to. Religion is simply a support for that spirit.

I can go along with much of the program, but I am disgusted with the way religion has sneaked its nose in under the Tea Party tent! If the Tea Party is going to be about religion, then count me out. If the Tea Party is going to be just another group for pandering to the religious right then it is over.

The Tea Parties began with Rick Santelli and Dick Armey talking about small government, free markets, national security and yes, justice, honor and pride. These are values that all Americans can flock to. I hate to see that movement sullied by those who refuse to keep their religion to themselves and think that others will tolerate having it forced upon them.

MJBrutus on August 30, 2010 at 9:59 AM

I can go along with much of the program, but I am disgusted with the way religion has sneaked its nose in under the Tea Party tent! If the Tea Party is going to be about religion, then count me out. If the Tea Party is going to be just another group for pandering to the religious right then it is over.

The Tea Parties began with Rick Santelli and Dick Armey talking about small government, free markets, national security and yes, justice, honor and pride. These are values that all Americans can flock to. I hate to see that movement sullied by those who refuse to keep their religion to themselves and think that others will tolerate having it forced upon them.

MJBrutus on August 30, 2010 at 9:59 AM

The rally wasn’t a tea party rally. If a couple of folks waved a Gadsen flag, so what? I think we all agree with the ideals and values the rally promoted.

Who is John Galt on August 30, 2010 at 10:48 AM

The rally wasn’t a tea party rally. If a couple of folks waved a Gadsen flag, so what? I think we all agree with the ideals and values the rally promoted.

Who is John Galt on August 30, 2010 at 10:48 AM

Fair enough. I am just worried, because I have heard too many commenters trying to treat Beck and Palin as the “leaders” or the “faces” of the Tea Party and I consider them nothing of the sort.

MJBrutus on August 30, 2010 at 10:58 AM

RightOFLeft on August 29, 2010 at 4:08 PM

Thank you! I share your worry about that.

MJBrutus on August 30, 2010 at 11:07 AM

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