NRA to Harry Reid: Get lost
posted at 7:02 pm on August 27, 2010 by Ed Morrissey
How big a deal will this be in the Nevada Senate race?
The U.S. Senate recently considered a number of issues important to NRA members, including the confirmation of Elena Kagan to the Supreme Court. Out of respect for the confirmation process, the NRA did not announce its position on Ms. Kagan’s confirmation until the conclusion of her testimony before the Senate Judiciary committee. Her evasive testimony exacerbated grave concerns we had about her long-standing hostility towards the Second Amendment. As a result, the NRA strongly opposed her confirmation and made it clear at the time that we would be scoring this important vote.
The vote on Elena Kagan’s confirmation to the Court, along with the previous year’s confirmation vote on Sonia Sotomayor, are critical for the future of the Second Amendment. After careful consideration, the NRA-PVF announced today that it will not be endorsing Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid for re-election in the 2010 U.S. Senate race in Nevada.
The NRA sent out a letter to its members in July 2009 praising Reid’s stand on gun rights as Senator, leading some to wonder whether the group would eventually endorse Reid in his re-election campaign. The NRA asked its members to call Reid’s offices and thank him for, among other actions, the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act in 2005 that put the kibosh on a planned wave of lawsuits against gun manufacturers, and his opposition to Eric Holder’s statement that the DoJ would seek reinstatement of the “assault weapons” ban. A year later, NRA Political Victory Fund chair Chris Cox floated the idea of endorsing Reid, saying that having anti-gun Senator Chuck Schumer as head of the Senate would be potentially disastrous for gun owners.
That idea created a huge backlash, however, and apparently Cox has reconsidered his opinion — albeit for thinly veiled reasons. Reid couldn’t have stopped Elena Kagan’s confirmation even if he were inclined to try, at least not after the time that the NRA issued its own tardy condemnation of the appointment. Given the track record of Reid in defending gun ownership listed in the 2009 letter, the Kagan confirmation that didn’t prompt official worry from the NRA until after her public hearing — when it was far too late for any pressure on Barack Obama to pick someone else — seems like a weak-tea argument, especially since the Sotomayor confirmation vote came just a few weeks after the July 2009 letter, when Reid was clearly on board with Sotomayor’s confirmation as well. The truth seems more like the NRA’s membership balked at backing Reid, and Cox heard the outrage.
The real question is whether the NRA will endorse Sharron Angle, or just remain on the sidelines in Nevada. I suspect it will be the latter – as Allahpundit predicted all along.









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I don’t think the NRA will endorse Sharron Angle unless they think it is a sure thing.
mad saint jack on August 27, 2010 at 7:05 PM
Sarah endorses Sharron , Sarah snipes Lisa , NRA looks under bed for monsters.
the_nile on August 27, 2010 at 7:07 PM
Yep, they sure did. Then it’s members sent them letters, called them and emailed them in large numbers telling them that if they supported Harry Reid they’d need to find some new members.
Oldnuke on August 27, 2010 at 7:08 PM
Now if we could just get Nevadans to say the same thing…
cthulhu on August 27, 2010 at 7:09 PM
Heh…
fesofee on August 27, 2010 at 7:09 PM
The NRA has been a half-ass gun rights organization for a while now. Gagging members to keep them from being critical of Kagan. Ignoring the plight of open carriers. Doing next to nothing to help people like David Olofson, persecuted by the ATF for a malfunctioning firearm. To hell with them.
MadisonConservative on August 27, 2010 at 7:10 PM
Harry Reid to be videotaped shooting at a firing range in 3…2….1….
portlandon on August 27, 2010 at 7:11 PM
Gee NRA, ya think?
When Does One Use This Expression? …..”You Make My Day.”
try again later on August 27, 2010 at 7:11 PM
Avalanches have momentum…
mjbrooks3 on August 27, 2010 at 7:11 PM
How stupid does one have to be, to realize the liberals all want guns out of the hands of American citizens? Why would they even consider an endorsement?
capejasmine on August 27, 2010 at 7:12 PM
The nra is not on our love list. It seems they, like our dear elected, have had an earfull for what they do or want to do. Frankly, like the aarp or others, I do not give a flying flit if they endorce or not. We look at those running on how they feel about the 2nd and other issues and check these things out.
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letget on August 27, 2010 at 7:12 PM
If you are in Portland Oregon, you should try getting your Mayor to go. Heard your Mayor is allergic to the 2nd. amendment.
fourdeucer on August 27, 2010 at 7:13 PM
Because they’ve been a powerful lobby for a lot of years and they’ve become part of the elite establishment. They just got reminded of who pays their bills.
Oldnuke on August 27, 2010 at 7:14 PM
Thank you Ed for posting this.
InTheBellyoftheBeast on August 27, 2010 at 7:15 PM
Truth.
Cicero43 on August 27, 2010 at 7:16 PM
I don’t think the NRA is going to opine on this particular battle. Reid is a sleazy scumbag, and the NRA rank and file (like me) know it, and put pressure on the national leadership to not cozy up with a guy who is doing irreparable damage to our country with the policies his Senate are instituting. I hope that Nevada voters send dingy Harry into retirement.
simkeith on August 27, 2010 at 7:19 PM
I’m going to go out on a limb and disagree with our host Mr. Morrisey.
I predict that the NRA will endorse Angle, that they will do so with great fanfare and celebration (and to do so at LV’s new Porkulus shooting range would be oh so sweet), and that if Angle wins a close one, NRA will shout from the rooftops that they (and they alone, of course) made all the difference.
That’s what I would do NRA. Are you listening?
JohnGalt23 on August 27, 2010 at 7:21 PM
Yep. Our mayor Sam Adams is allergic to guns, but loves to make out with 17 year old boys in the City Hall Bathroom. He’s still our mayor.Only in Portland….
portlandon on August 27, 2010 at 7:22 PM
They have found that if they attempt to lead, no one will follow, so they’re just going to get out of the way.
I agree that they will not endorse Angle unless and until the race breaks her way with some degree of finality, at which point they might decide to jump on board just to ensure they’ve got a seat, if not at the table, at least somewhere in the room.
JEM on August 27, 2010 at 7:23 PM
portlandon – frankly, as a native San Franciscan still resident not too far from the place, I’m not quite sure that’d even fly in SF.
JEM on August 27, 2010 at 7:24 PM
Do you actually have proof of this? Otherwise you all are just a bunch of keyboard commandos throwing around wild accusations, and basking in your anonymity – which, I submit, is no better than what they do at Daily Koz, and the Huffington Post.
InTheBellyoftheBeast on August 27, 2010 at 7:25 PM
Why, hello, Mr. LaPierre. Nice to see you here.
Mary in LA on August 27, 2010 at 7:29 PM
I do thank you for getting the EPA to back down. Nice work!
Mary in LA on August 27, 2010 at 7:33 PM
Now that is just plain sick, sorry for all you good folks in Oregon.
fourdeucer on August 27, 2010 at 7:38 PM
I’m still not giving to them until they get their heads out of their butts and realize how devastating judges like Sotomayor and Kagan can be. The courts are a backdoor for second amendment pretenders like Reid to do away with individual gun ownership rights, yet the NRA seems to be too focused on the legislative side of things and soudned very close to endorsing Reid.
I’m glad they are listening to their members, but if they seriously learned anything they need to endorse Angle and run ads explaining how dangerous sotomayor and Kagan can be and as a result, Reid can’t be trusted. Sotomayor completely ignored the 2nd amendment in the most recent case, Reid voted for that.
Daemonocracy on August 27, 2010 at 7:39 PM
I have no idea if that is the reason or not, but I can tell you that I stopped donating and let my membership lapse. Their supprot of Reid and Disclsoe is why I don’t buy a lifetime membership, letting my membership lapse really gets their attention and my phone blows up with their calls.
Daemonocracy on August 27, 2010 at 7:42 PM
Good news. Thanks.
mad saint jack on August 27, 2010 at 7:48 PM
Harry Reid has done shot himself in the foot as per
usual!
canopfor on August 27, 2010 at 7:48 PM
You’re welcome! Made me very happy, but as I said over at Ace’s place, “we won — this time“.
Mary in LA on August 27, 2010 at 7:53 PM
I know what this is all about. They did a survey/fundraising call-a-thon this week. No idea if they targeted all of their members or just the ones that informed NRA that they pissed on their membership cards.
But I’m sure lots of guys told them what I told them: “you’re not getting a cent and I’m no longer a member, and you can thank Chris Cock and Wayne LaPansy and whoever came up with the brilliant idea of wheedling Harry Reid for $61 million of our money to waste on a desert gun park for Nevada millionaires. Go f*ck yourselves.”
3 or 4 thousand of those phone calls might have inspired a new policy position on Harry Reid.
Jaibones on August 27, 2010 at 7:55 PM
My mom didn’t renew her membership because of NRA’s recent political positions. I told her I’d research Gun Owners of America — anybody here have any other recommendations?
Mary in LA on August 27, 2010 at 7:58 PM
Yep, they sure did. Then it’s members sent them letters, called them and emailed them in large numbers telling them that if they supported Harry Reid they’d need to find some new members.
Oldnuke on August 27, 2010 at 7:08 PM
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My thought exactly,they definitely found out real quick what we thought:)
ohiobabe on August 27, 2010 at 8:09 PM
GOA is better than NRA. Also:
Second Amendment Foundation.
Sisters of the Second Amendment.
Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership.
And for our gay members…
MadisonConservative on August 27, 2010 at 8:14 PM
I never thought the NRA should endorse him…he is you know…a DemocRat…
Has Palin endorsed Angle?
CCRWM on August 27, 2010 at 8:21 PM
Well my lifetime membership was bestowed upon me at the tender age of eleven, a birthday gift from my awesome, gun-loving father, Walt B. He was a wonderful, lovable man who was seriously NRA all the way. So, I never seriously considered ending my membership over the Reid thing. Also I’ve never donated to them, so I didn’t email them to let them know I would be giving them no more cash because of the endorsement. (I really wanted to be able to do that) In fact, I accepted their explanation on the issue when they addressed it in the recent American Rifleman magazine editorial – that their endorsements were only about the second ammendment and otherwise were non-partisan. It was obvious that they were referring to their Reid endorsement and had recieved a lot of flak over the issue. It’s good to see that they are responding to their membership, and I’m glad that so many gun enthusiasts are against Harry Reid. Now I really have no excuse not to donate to them. In fact, I think I will send them a check, with a note letting them know that it’s my thanks for the about-face on Harry…
Dork B. on August 27, 2010 at 8:23 PM
I just forwarded the email from Cox to tips@hotair, then noticed this thread had been up for a while. It is just this sort of thing that explains why some folks are rich and I’m not.
pugwriter on August 27, 2010 at 8:26 PM
I had a telephone solicitor tell me, after I blasted the NRA about HR, that they were getting so much of that that it was unbelievable. He was very depressed, didn’t even make much of a sales pitch.
Oldnuke on August 27, 2010 at 8:34 PM
Kin ah git me a huntin’ license here?….
slickwillie2001 on August 27, 2010 at 8:35 PM
The anti-Second Amendment issue isn’t the half of the whole agenda being advanced by all Progressives.
It is about disabling the United States as a whole.
Once that’s done, the population (that’s us, folks) won’t have any capability to resist being “assimilated” into this.
I believe the analogy of “the Borg” is very appropriate for these people.
The anti-Second Amendment and Green “movements” are all about fulfilling that ultimate agenda, and nothing else.
The Tax Code, the Endangered Species Act, “you name it”, it’s all orchestrated towards that end.
So, how high do you rate this post on the “Apocolyptic Paranoia” scale?
But I do believe it.
listens2glenn on August 27, 2010 at 8:43 PM
In fairness, NRA has done excellent work to uphold the Second Amendment in the past, and really the do not endorse on any basis other than that so, if Harry Reid has in fact supported gun rights well, then it makes sense for them to endorse him.
However the simple fact is that Harry is a Dem, and therefore not to be trusted when it comes to any constitutional right, most especially when it conflicts with the engorgnig of government powers, so . . .
Siddhartha Vicious on August 27, 2010 at 8:48 PM
from Druge
By Paul Bedard
Posted: August 27, 2010
EPA Surrenders to NRA on Gun Control Issue
In a swift and unexpected decision, the Environmental Protection Agency today rejected a petition from environmental groups to ban the use of lead in bullets and shotgun shells, claiming it doesn’t have jurisdiction to weigh on the controversial Second Amendment issue. The decision came just hours after the Drudge Report posted stories from Washington Whispers and the Weekly Standard about how gun groups were fighting the lead bullet ban.
Click here to find out more!
The EPA had planned to solicit public responses to the petition for two months, but this afternoon issued a statement rejecting a 100-page request from the Center for Biological Diversity, the American Bird Conservancy, and three other groups for a ban on lead bullets, shot, and fishing sinkers. The agency is still considering what to do about sinkers.
The decision was a huge victory for the National Rifle Association which just seven days ago asked that the EPA reject the petition, suggesting that it was a back door attempt to limit hunting and impose gun control. It also was a politically savvy move to take gun control off the table as the Democrats ready for a very difficult midterm election.
Col.John Wm. Reed on August 27, 2010 at 8:52 PM
Cox and Company got a BIG BACKLASH from membership over endorsing Reid. And it had nothing to do with gun ownership or Reid’s support in that area. It was pointed out to the pin-head honcho’s of the NRA that Barry’s agenda was a bigger threat to the country.
GarandFan on August 27, 2010 at 8:55 PM
It will depend if Harry Reid is the deciding vote on whether or not the Senate falls to the GOP. If she becomes the 51st vote then “hello Senator Angle”.
Jdripper on August 27, 2010 at 9:02 PM
Bummer, I was looking forward to a veto-proof majority.
agmartin on August 27, 2010 at 9:15 PM
I expect an NRA endorsement if Palin endorses her. Advocacy groups need to remain politically relevant. Staying on the sideline doesn’t bring in the donations.
year_of_the_dingo on August 27, 2010 at 9:18 PM
The NRA tries to take away my Legally Owned assault rifles (full auto). Screw you NRA. I dropped you like a bad habit 5 years ago.
MadDogF on August 27, 2010 at 9:25 PM
As a NRA member since 52 we decided to buy one membership this year and sent the rest of the money to candidates of our choice.The whole family can read one magazine in our heated indoor rest room with runnin’ water.
Col.John Wm. Reed on August 27, 2010 at 9:25 PM
I got a fundraising phone call from an NRA phone bank a few weeks back. I told the girl on the other end of the line to get her pen ready to write a few things down…
I told her that I wouldn’t fork over so much as one red cent as long as the NRA was backing the DISCLOSE Act and endorsing Harry Reid. I told her that I was not only refusing to pony up a donation but that I would not be renewing my membership, that I would find some other gun organization to give my money to. There was some sputtering on the other end of the line and then the phone went dead. I haven’t gotten another call since.
I suspect that they got responses that resembled mine from more than a few of their members.
trapeze on August 27, 2010 at 9:29 PM
Think back to the 1994 AWB vote , those who voted for the BAN were quickly replaced
I am a NRA member and do not always agree with EVERYTHING they do, and I was critical of their endorsement of ” DIRTY HARRY in a thread about ” CONSERVATIVE CARLY ”
Gun control is toxic for anyone outside of NY , CA and perhaps Maryland .
Join the NRA , join the other groups listed above by
MADISON CONSERVATIVE,
without the 2nd Amendment we have NO FREEDOM
ELMO Q on August 27, 2010 at 9:37 PM
Too f**king late NRA, I dropped you when you first made that mistake.
R D on August 27, 2010 at 9:46 PM
For those asking about endorsements by Palin, I think she has or soon will endorse Angle.
http://hotair.com/archives/2010/08/17/finally-palin-to-endorse-sharron-angle-and-actively-help-this-fall/
I’d also expect the NRA to do so, especially if she gains momentum & looks likely to win.
cs89 on August 27, 2010 at 9:46 PM
When the guy called this Wednesday and I cut him off and read him the Riot Act, he was fully prepared for it and had a canned response all ready that went something like “Yes, we are aware that there are a lot of unfounded rumors out there about Harry Reid, and…”
So I cut him off again as politely as I could and asked him why in the hell the American taxpayers — gun owners and gun haters alike — were robbed of $61 million by Harry Reid and the NRA to fund a playground for shooters in Nevada. He had nothing.
Jaibones on August 27, 2010 at 10:03 PM
Harry Reid is perhaps the one man in Washington that stopped a new “Assault Weapon” ban. I think he did this knowing that his NV constituents wanted it stopped. Hell, a LOT of us wanted it stopped. Credit where credit is due.
Kenosha Kid on August 27, 2010 at 10:19 PM
Sorry, NRA, too little, too late!
Hobbes on August 27, 2010 at 10:30 PM
What does the NRA have to gain by endorsing Angle? She isn’t exactly looking like a landslide winner now and even if she does win, its not like she is going to go anti-gun.
Speedwagon82 on August 28, 2010 at 12:02 AM
Did Mitt Romney take control of the NRA?
Not taking a stand on justices until confirmed? Flip flopping on Dingy Harry?
This flip flop may just get them my dues again this time for one more year though!
dhunter on August 28, 2010 at 3:21 AM
Ahh, maybe because she wouldn’t vote to confirm justices such as Sotomayer and Kagen? Enough reason for me to believe they should endorse her!
dhunter on August 28, 2010 at 3:24 AM
NRA does not go against any incumbent who has not voted directly against it PERIOD.
They are not a rightwing group at all.
Kermit on August 28, 2010 at 8:38 AM
I’m the son of an NRA member… now neither my father, nor myself, doubt for a second, that the NRA has made some rather dumb moves (from some of the minor freebies, like one heck of an ugly baseball cap, that featured the NRA logo in Liquid metal silver color, and featured a trim around the visor of it that looked to be made out of cheap electrical insulation, to the “made in China” tag inside of it, to some decisions they make)
But if I may point out for all of you. The NRA is by no means a dedicated one party group. it’s not the AFL, or the SEIU which are always going to be dedicated to the Liberal Democrats, or the Brady Campaign is for anti-gun liberals. It’s a dedicated single issue group. and that matter is on 2nd ammendment. We all too often make the mistake of thinking they are a Republican group, merely because they take conservative/constitunalist views on a key platform of the Republican party. the 2nd ammendment. It seems we are slow to acknowledge the NRA for when they help in major cases, like the recent Heller, and McDonald cases that removed D.C. and Chicago’s gun bans, but quick to criticize them when they seem to go off the Republican Reservation, a reservation they are NOT a part of, but certainly don’t mind visiting. As a matter of fact, we should be thanking the NRA for supporting some of the pro-gun Democrats, because it drives the liberal base of their side nuts. As long as a politician, R or D or even an Independent, supports 2nd ammendment rights, then the NRA is going to support them. The second they vote against it in some way, that support disappears. As for the NRA’s being a bit on the “quiet” side of some issues, I point merely to the insane rantings of D.U. and Daily Kos, and other liberal websites, who love extolling the myth that any Pro-gun supporter is some yahoo redneck racist. The NRA doesn’t want to give them political ammo (pardon the pun).
That said, there is merit in concerns over some of the NRA’s lack of activity sometimes. It does seem sometimes that they are afraid that should they speak out, Obama and his cronies will go out of there way to try and silence them politically. And the fact that money lost from membership dues is what it takes to get them to hear from the average member about their concerns.
Razgriez on August 28, 2010 at 1:18 PM
No, if Reid had come out against Sotomayor and/or Kagan, their respective confirmations would have been sunk. That would have given cover for other Demoncrats in the same situation to vote no.
federale86 on August 28, 2010 at 8:58 PM
The question for the NRA should be now that you have a precedent for not supporting Reid will that precedent apply to all Senators.
Will McCain and Grahamnesty’s ratings suffer as a result? Will Max Baucus have his rating downgraded?
They certainly deserve it and maybe McCain most of all because of McCain Feingold.
jpmn on August 29, 2010 at 2:01 PM