Wow: Whitman up eight points over Brown in CA?
posted at 2:57 pm on August 26, 2010 by Ed Morrissey
Earlier this month, Rasmussen had former two-term Governor Jerry Brown edging Republican Meg Whitman, 43/41, with neither candidate showing much momentum. In less than a month, Rasmussen shows a ten-point move by Whitman and a potentially commanding lead, while Brown appears to be fading. With leaners, the news gets even worse for Brown:
The tie is broken for now, with Republican Meg Whitman, coming off last weekend’s state GOP Convention, moving out to her best showing yet in the race to be the next governor of California.
The latest Rasmussen Reports telephone survey of Likely Voters in California finds Whitman earning 48% support, while Democrat Jerry Brown picks up 40% of the vote. Six percent (6%) prefer some other candidate in the race, and six percent (6%) are undecided. …
Early this month, Brown was slightly ahead 43% to 41% in a contest that has been neck and neck since last September. Brown, currently the state’s attorney general, bounced briefly ahead immediately following the state Democratic Convention in April, but the race tightened again in June after Whitman’s Republican primary win.
Being from California, I can attest to the fact that a state convention isn’t going to give a candidate a ten-point bounce. It’s good mainly for some earned media, but the candidates get chosen in primary contests in the Golden State, not conventions. Since the primary took place in June, the Republican convention last weekend was mainly aimed at organizing, and not the kind of candidate boosting that grabs headlines and moves polls.
The trajectory of this race looks like an enhanced version of the Senate race between incumbent Barbara Boxer and Carly Fiorina. Both Boxer and Brown are lifelong public-sector figures, the face of California’s political establishment — and with the California economy looking as grim as it is, voters there will be inclined to look for new faces. That’s particularly true of Jerry Brown, who already served two terms in the office he now seeks from 1974-82 and helped create the regulatory regimes that are now strangling California’s economy.
Whitman is helped by two factors in the partisan split: extraordinary party loyalty from the GOP and independents breaking away from Brown. Whitman holds 90% of Republicans (93% with leaners), while Brown only holds 76% of Democrats. Among firm voters, Whitman has a ten-point lead among unaffiliated voters (44/34), and with leaners an eleven-point lead (50/39). The leaners put Whitman into a majority at 51%, while Brown still trails by eight at 43% — a bad number for a man who has won statewide office repeatedly in California.
If Whitman picks up real momentum, it will help Carly Fiorina, especially if Whitman’s money gets out the vote in November. Running two retreads at the top of the ballot may prove fatal for Democrats in this cycle.









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great rundown Ed, and BTW that’s Senator Retread….I think she’s earned it…
ted c on August 26, 2010 at 3:01 PM
And this is good news in my territory:
LANCASTER (AP) — A new poll shows Republican Pat Toomey slightly ahead of Democrat Joe Sestak in their U.S. Senate race.
It says by 9 points which, to me, is more than slightly.
Jeff on August 26, 2010 at 3:04 PM
I live in Santa Monica and had absolutely no idea that their was a state convention last week.
I’d say it’s rather unlikely, as you mentioned, that the convention would give her any bounce.
JadeNYU on August 26, 2010 at 3:06 PM
I’m in Sacramento. Our minor league Rivercats had a bobbblehead giveaway where fans could choose either a Meg Whitman or Jerry Brown bobblehead.
At all three entrances to the ballpark, the Whitman bobblehead ran out first.
Meg won the bobblehead vote!
muckdog on August 26, 2010 at 3:06 PM
but, did it have a flat head that you could set a beer on?…..er, nevermind…
ted c on August 26, 2010 at 3:07 PM
I’d rather Meg lose because Cali is literally gonna go down in flames in the next 5 years and I want Dem fingerprints all over it.
shawk on August 26, 2010 at 3:07 PM
Although this on the surface sounds like GOOD NEWS , I am increasingly concerned that it takes 20 -100 million or more of PERSONAL money to get elected .
Jerry Brown , come on how strong is he ? Pretty much been a kook in Ca for as long as anyone can remember. I have met Carly and I do not believe she is a conservative either, but hey ANYTHING is better than BOXER . I think a balanced HOUSE will be better than anything for the Nation , The Governor of California will have a tough go at it because of the liberal state representation .
Let California go bankrupt would be the best answer, as long as they build schools that cost more than Olympic stadiums and produce a 50% drop out ratio they will continue to squander money and make stupid decisions
ELMO Q on August 26, 2010 at 3:08 PM
quick dems double down on the GZm it’s the only way to save yourselves
unseen on August 26, 2010 at 3:10 PM
HA!! HA!! I nominate for blog comment of the day.
HDFOB on August 26, 2010 at 3:11 PM
Ma’mentum!
Send Boxer packing, along with Pelosi. Sweet.
Don’t count ducks until the night of Nov. 02, and stay awake thereafter. This is a significant and logn fight, never to end.
Schadenfreude on August 26, 2010 at 3:11 PM
i’m surprised that no one is picking up on the movement in all polls towards the GOp since the GZM debate started. I don’t think the elite/pundits understand the emotion invovled in this decision by the POTUS to come out for the GZM. this makes the house banking scandal look like small potatoes.
unseen on August 26, 2010 at 3:13 PM
I love the smell of incinerated Leftard in the morning. It smells like…victory.
Cicero43 on August 26, 2010 at 3:13 PM
The biggest problem for Whitman is all the Democrats in the legislature. The real message, in California, would be for the voters to throw out the Democrats from the legislature and not have another RINO in the Governor’s Mansion.
bflat879 on August 26, 2010 at 3:13 PM
Then the U.S. will be gone too.
Schadenfreude on August 26, 2010 at 3:14 PM
Not to worry — the Dems own the state legislature. Arnie suffered his neutering more or less in silence. Meg will make more noise, at least, about who’s really doing the damage to CA.
Insty said today that the Dem legislature rejected public sector pension reform, so you’re right that the state will become a complete hellhole in about 5 years’ time — but by that time the reasons why will be clear to everyone with two brain cells to rub together.
Mary in LA on August 26, 2010 at 3:16 PM
I’d rather Meg lose because Cali is literally gonna go down in flames in the next 5 years and I want Dem fingerprints all over it.
shawk on August 26, 2010 at 3:07 PM
nothing says a GOp leader can not fix the issue if she has enough balls to do so.
unseen on August 26, 2010 at 3:18 PM
How many different words and names can be stuck in front of “mentum?” There must must be a limit.
InterestedObserver on August 26, 2010 at 3:22 PM
It’s like fighting to be the captain of the Titanic after it hit the iceberg. California is doomed, when it slips beneath the waves, we don’t want a republican uselessly thrashing the wheel back and forth to be the last image for the MSM to focus on.
Better to let the moonbats finish driving it under.
Rebar on August 26, 2010 at 3:23 PM
It’s like War of the Worlds. The hideous aliens bent on destroying everything are dropping like flies!
Akzed on August 26, 2010 at 3:23 PM
I’d rather have a “Escape the Ban Hammer for Free” card FWIW. :)
ted c on August 26, 2010 at 3:27 PM
Under normal circumstances, I would be inclined to agree.
However, every Republican in the senate is one more vote we have to repeal all the horrible things Obama has passed and will continue to pass.
JadeNYU on August 26, 2010 at 3:29 PM
Well, that leaves out your typical democrat.
Aviator on August 26, 2010 at 3:30 PM
Meg’s running some great ads highlighting the city of Bell and how Oakland has increased the number of $200k city workers by 700% over last 5 years.
Hopefully she has more balls than girly man and can actually fight the entrenched dems in the legislature and their union overlords
Ditkaca on August 26, 2010 at 3:33 PM
It’s what happens when $20 billion of insanity crashes to earth.
What America is facing as well.
tarpon on August 26, 2010 at 3:36 PM
Can we trade California for Sweden?
faraway on August 26, 2010 at 3:37 PM
Even Californians can’t be foolish enough to vote for Brown. The 70′s aren’t that much of a distant memory, are they?
Vashta.Nerada on August 26, 2010 at 3:37 PM
Is Meg a Chris Christie or a Charlie Crist?
Ted Torgerson on August 26, 2010 at 3:39 PM
OT: Palin keeps the newbie congressmen in line
faraway on August 26, 2010 at 3:41 PM
Is it going to matter who’s governor in CA though? Don’t the Dems still hold a veto-proof majority in the state assemblies? They’ll pass their budget-busters, Meg’ll veto them, then the Dems’ll make a show of overriding her veto and driving the state into insolvency.
The only chance California really has is for her to grab hold of the bully pulpit and hammer the Dems nonstop. Maybe she can help sway enough local elections to bring the Dems to their knees. If she forces them to come to the table, she might have a chance to bring about some real changes.
But she’ll have to wait at least two more years for that to happen. By then, the state may very well be completely bankrupt. I’m not sure, but I think that may completely torpedo the rest of the country….
nukemhill on August 26, 2010 at 3:42 PM
I give the credit to the GZ Mosque. The less politically informed are finally realizing, I think, that Republicans aren’t as extremist as the media portray them to be. “If opposing the GZ Mosque is extremist, then I’m with extremists.”
I expect Sharron Angle to get a nice bounce as well in the next Rasmussen poll.
year_of_the_dingo on August 26, 2010 at 3:59 PM
Now that’s funny. I know funny, and that’s funny.
JohnGalt23 on August 26, 2010 at 4:05 PM
She’ll have to take the issues to the voters a la the original Governator (the one that wasn’t defeated and reprogrammed). Those propositions failed in an environment very different from now. And maybe Whitman can chip in some more of her fortune to help them pass.
year_of_the_dingo on August 26, 2010 at 4:08 PM
Jerry Brown Flashback: We Need More Welfare and Fewer Jobs
http://biggovernment.com/mrichmond/2010/06/10/jerry-brown-flashback-we-need-more-welfare-and-fewer-jobs/
Yeah, he really said that.
Mark1971 on August 26, 2010 at 4:14 PM
..being form California and having lived here in the late seventies, I remember with stark raving terror things like Rose Bird, the old Plymouth, Brown’s futon in the Governor’s mansion, Carly Simon, and generally the whole granola-and-nutsy-fruitsy aspect of this clown’s governance.
Perhaps others do as well.
The War Planner on August 26, 2010 at 4:19 PM
year_of_the_dingo – Arnold played his election like a movie script, the problem was the unions got to the rewrite guys.
He could have pushed through any one, maybe two of the ballot initiatives. He could have gotten the restriction on use of union dues in political contributions. He might have gotten reform of redistricting. And with one or both of those in place you go back for the rest next time.
But when he threw them all up there, and tried to push them all through at once, he was taking on too many enemies at once. The FUD factor shot them down. Then Arnold flipped over and became a Democrat, a fiscally moderate green loon.
I think ballot measures to restrict union and public employee political activity and to throttle back pension giveaways would pass right now. A GOP governor would also provide a needed brake on runaway Dem redistricting.
JEM on August 26, 2010 at 4:34 PM
I work for a large agency in San Francisco city government. This place is as blue as it gets, but no one is expressing any enthusiasm for Brown at all. I haven’t heard his name mentioned once. I do, however, hear department heads and other managers openly saying that Whitman will probably be elected, so we might as well think about what that will mean for us next year. It’s amazing for San Francisco of all places.
I’ve lived here all my life and remember the two Brown administrations. We have been living with the disastrous results for 30 years. And now, here he is again.
If Whitman wins, her main job will be to veto every piece of lefty crap that crosses her desk. Arnold has vetoed over a thousand bad bills in 6 years.
The Dems have over 60% of each house of the Leg, but they don’t have the 2/3 to override a Whitman veto.
But if Brown gets elected, and the voters approve an initiative on the ballot in Nov to allow the Dems to pass a state budget with a simple majority, this state is going to be gone.
I’m retiring in two years and getting out of Dodge.
sdillard on August 26, 2010 at 4:37 PM
Doesn’t matter.
0bamacare is just the icing on a very large cake of doom. Even if everything 0bama does is repealed, medicare/medicaid/social security/and the rest of the unfunded mandates will bankrupt us.
We make fun of California, but the sad truth is the rest of the republic is just a step behind.
Rebar on August 26, 2010 at 4:41 PM
Bwahahahaah! That’s great, Ted, I love it. :)
I will vote for Meg, but not joyously. I’m hoping she’s better than I know Jerry will be–been there, done that, got the mess. Don’t want to go there again.
Bob's Kid on August 26, 2010 at 4:45 PM
It’s this year’s “Mark Foley scandal.” In 2006, the GOP was already struggling with charges of corruption and a backlash against the Iraq war. The Foley thing hit right at the end of a slow August and just exploded. It crystallized the whole Republican “culture of corruption” in the minds of the voters. Nothing Republicans could do after that.
The GZM mosque is going to do the same thing to Democrats this year – it just reinforces the voters’ views that Obama and the Democratic leadership are completely out of touch with most Americans.
rockmom on August 26, 2010 at 4:47 PM
With leaners Rasmussen has Whitman over Brown 51-43 and Boxer at 49-44 over Fiorina. I don’t believe either of these polls.
The last Survey USA poll had Fiorina 47-42 over Boxer and a good lead among independent voters. Ras has Boxer leading Fiorina among indies.
Rasmussen is a reliable pollster except when Romney is in the picture. Whitman is a Romney protege. Fiorina was endorsed by Palin who is a rival of Romney’s. End of story.
technopeasant on August 26, 2010 at 5:19 PM
The really frightening thing is that Jerry Brown probably actually believes that we need more welfare and fewer jobs.
And we have heard similar theories from
Nancy Pelosi:
“Think of an economy where people could be an artist or a photographer or a writer without worrying about keeping their day job in order to have health insurance.”
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/pelosi-health-care-reform-will-finally-allow-artists-focus-being-unemployed-comfortably
And Michelle Obama:
“We left corporate America, which is a lot of what we’re asking young people to do,”
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/159678/michelle-obama-dont-go-corporate-america/byron-york
Just a few more reasons why friends don’t let friends vote for Democrats.
wren on August 26, 2010 at 5:26 PM
You think Brown’s bad? Look at Gavin Newsom and Kamala Harris. They are the Democratic Party candidates for Lieutenant Governor and Attorney General, respectively. Newsom is mayor of San Francisco and Harris is the city’s AG.
They’re both catastrophic left wing horror shows and they’re the Dems leading candidates for important state offices. They will get millions of votes from brain dead Californians and just might win.
Django on August 26, 2010 at 6:09 PM
Ummmm! How do we go about giving California back to Mexico?
alwyr on August 26, 2010 at 6:10 PM
You hit the nail on the head, Django!
The San Francisco Bay Area influence on the 2010 Democrat candidates would be a complete disaster for California and the rest of the country.
wren on August 26, 2010 at 6:30 PM
Ridiculous.
BallisticBob on August 26, 2010 at 8:14 PM