What if you gave an entitlement party and no one came?

posted at 1:29 pm on August 24, 2010 by Ed Morrissey

Democrats who hoped to sell the benefits of ObamaCare to a highly antagonized electorate may find that one of their arguments has proven much weaker than expected.  The Obama administration front-loaded what it saw as the most popular portions of the bill in order to get people to realize its benefits before the midterm elections, and the crown jewel of that effort was the program that provided subsidized gap insurance for people with pre-existing conditions.  It certainly impressed the people who signed up for it, but that number has turned out to be embarrassingly small:

Titus is one of what some officials say has been an unexpectedly small number of people to sign up for the program, which was touted by the Obama administration as an early benefit of the new health overhaul law. It began last month in 30 states with the expectation that many thousands of uninsured people would apply for the opportunity to get comprehensive coverage regardless of their health status. But that hasn’t been the case.

About 3,600 people have applied and about 1,200 have been approved so far in state plans that started in the beginning of July, according to data from the states and federal government. Officials say the new plans, although a better deal than anything comparable on the private market, still may be unaffordable for many people. Eligibility requirements are another possible barrier. And states have had little time to publicize the plans.

It’s too soon to gauge the program’s impact. The plans won’t be up and running in all the states until September. But some officials are surprised.

“It’s early, but thus far interest in the program is lower than we expected,” said Michael Keough, executive director of the North Carolina Health Insurance Risk Pool, which started July 1. As of Tuesday, 258 people had applied and 121 had been approved.

Remember the debate over ObamaCare and the absolute moral imperative of now to intervene on behalf of those with pre-existing conditions?  Many pointed out that it didn’t take a massive overhaul to accomplish that task, but the White House and Democrats in Congress used these Americans as poster children for ObamaCare.  As it turns out, they’re not terribly impressed with the results.  By September, the program may have as many as 5,000 people enrolled in it — quite a low number for a program that will cost us trillions over the next two decades.

Before these numbers came out, Byron York wrote that Democrats will have a hard time defending their ObamaCare votes:

In passing the national health care bill, you accomplished something your party dreamed of for decades. It was your most important vote, and now is the time to take credit for it.

Except it’s not.

Recently a number of top Democratic strategists conducted focus groups in Las Vegas, Charlotte, Philadelphia and St. Louis. They also conducted a national poll of 1,000 likely voters and an online poll of 2,000 more likely voters. They wanted to measure the public’s feelings about Obamacare and help Democrats make an effective case for the bill they passed in March.

The researchers found what they call a “challenging environment,” which is a nicer way of saying “disaster in the making.” Voters simply aren’t buying the Democratic case that health care reform will insure more than 30 million currently uninsured people and save money at the same time. And when they think about their own health care, people worry that reform will mean less, not more, availability of care, and at a higher cost.

Faced with that bad news, the pollsters came up with several recommendations for Democratic candidates. When talking about Obamacare, Democrats should “keep claims small and credible.” They should promise to “improve” the law. They should avoid talking about policy and stick to “personal stories” of people who will benefit from Obamacare. And above all, the pollsters advise, “don’t say the law will reduce costs and deficit.”

It’s a stunning about-face for a party that saw national health care as its signature accomplishment. “This is the first time we’ve seen from Democrats that they clearly understand they have a serious problem in terms of selling this legislation,” says Republican pollster David Winston.

Thirty million?  It may not even ensure thirty thousand by the time the elections roll around, despite the White House’s gaming of the system to extract the most political advantage they can get.  In fact, the program only attempted to get to just 5% of these uninsured anyway:

The Congressional Budget Office has estimated that as many as four million uninsured Americans would be eligible and that 200,000 would actually be enrolled by 2013. That projection assumed some people would not be interested or would not be able to afford the premiums.

“Some people”?  The program only anticipated being useful to 5% of the uninsured with pre-existing conditions.  Shouldn’t that have been a red flag?  And so far, it has resulted in a microscopic amount of enrollments compared to Congressional projections.

No wonder Democrats won’t be able to sell it in November.  Who’s going to go on the stump and brag about a 0.125% success rate?

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That projection assumed some people would not be interested or would not be able to afford the premiums.

Maybe a little jail time would peak their interest. – Democrats.

lorien1973 on August 24, 2010 at 1:33 PM

About 3,600 people have applied and about 1,200 have been approved

Solid B+.

txhsmom on August 24, 2010 at 1:34 PM

Hey, Proud Rino says Obama has the same ‘approval’ numbers as Ronald Reagan.

Schadenfreude on August 24, 2010 at 1:35 PM

Of course this would happen.

Obamacare was never about any of these ‘peripheral’ health care issues anyway.

It was always about getting a ‘public option’, period. When the PO became untenable, they then went about constructing the monstrosity we have which will drive things towards a PO

catmman on August 24, 2010 at 1:36 PM

Watch, the oppressives will want to Waste more of the taxpayer’s money pushing Government enslavement dependency.

Chip on August 24, 2010 at 1:36 PM

Make a new law with stiff penalties for these people who refuse to go on the teat of government!

HondaV65 on August 24, 2010 at 1:36 PM

Wait till government motors starts to market the Volt.

“EPA predicts 800 miles per charge by 2014″; “Volt is so cheap it’ll be almost free”.

“Reduced financing for unemployed buyers”. “WH house estimates nearly 300 million potential buyers in US alone”

BobMbx on August 24, 2010 at 1:37 PM

The sheer scope and magnitude of the failure hasn’t even begun to emerge. If this is any indication, the disaster that is Obamacare will be catastrophic.

mr.blacksheep on August 24, 2010 at 1:37 PM

A lefty I know who responded to my post about this elsewhere talked about how this proves that expanding the high-risk pool wasn’t going to work.

Of course, he’s still arguing that we should have full-on European-style socialized medicine because it’s “unfair” that some people have insurance and others don’t.

teke184 on August 24, 2010 at 1:38 PM

“WH house estimates nearly 300 million potential buyers in US alone”

LOL

lorien1973 on August 24, 2010 at 1:38 PM

About 3,600 people have applied

Let’s say worst case scenario their insurance would cost out-of-pocket like $500 a month.

At MOST, paying for those people would be 10 million a year

which is equal to ONE pork project from dianne fienstein (D-CA) dealing with “global warming emissions grants”.

DO WE GET THE REST OF THE TRILLION DOLLARS BACK NOW PLEASE?

picklesgap on August 24, 2010 at 1:38 PM

It certainly impressed the people who signed up for it, but that number has turned out to be embarrassingly small:

that’s what she said….
/obligatory

ted c on August 24, 2010 at 1:39 PM

Who’s going to go on the stump and brag about a 0.125% success rate?

This will be blamed on Bush:

“That evil Hitler Bush didn’t make sure there were enough people with pre-existing conditions to make Obama’s wonderful plan worthwhile! DAMN YOU, WINGNUTS!”

Good Lt on August 24, 2010 at 1:39 PM

If this is any indication, the disaster that is Obamacare will be catastrophic.

mr.blacksheep on August 24, 2010 at 1:37 PM

For Dems, I hope, and not the country as a whole.

Having a program that almost no one is using makes it much easier to repeal and/or defund the whole thing than if it were a program used by many.

teke184 on August 24, 2010 at 1:39 PM

A lefty I know who responded to my post about this elsewhere talked about how this proves that expanding the high-risk pool wasn’t going to work.

I’ve had conversations like that, too. The only lefties I know who don’t like Obamacare are the ones that wanted single payer to begin with. Most of those folks understand that that insurance companies will fail as a result of Obamacare, and they are fine with that, except they think it’ll take too long.

Missy on August 24, 2010 at 1:40 PM

Dont participate and don’t pay the fine either. REPEAL this socialist stinkpile.

dogsoldier on August 24, 2010 at 1:40 PM

Hey, Proud Rino says Obama has the same ‘approval’ numbers as Ronald Reagan.

Schadenfreude on August 24, 2010 at 1:35 PM

Presidencies headed in different directions:

Reagan: “It’s morning again in America.”

Obama: America “has shown arrogance and been dismissive.”

In a nutshell why Obama will never enjoy Reagan’s poularity.

pain train on August 24, 2010 at 1:41 PM

It was always about getting a ‘public option’, period.
catmman on August 24, 2010 at 1:36 PM

Yep, and the more this fails the more people will be begging for that single payer public option.

fourdeucer on August 24, 2010 at 1:42 PM

There was a report
On the New Jersey program…
Only two sign-ups…

Congress set aside
Seventy Million Dollars…
That’s Thirty-Five each!

Haiku Guy on August 24, 2010 at 1:42 PM

Of course, he’s still arguing that we should have full-on European-style socialized medicine because it’s “unfair” that some people have insurance and others don’t.

teke184 on August 24, 2010 at 1:38 PM

What a naiive tool.

Let’s apply that thought other places.

“It’s unfair I’m only 5’9″ and not 6’9 cuz then I could play in the nba.”

“It’s unfair Miss America doesn’t want to marry me.”

“It’s unfair I have to…” etc

picklesgap on August 24, 2010 at 1:42 PM

Voters simply aren’t buying the Democratic case that health care reform will insure more than 30 million currently uninsured people and save money at the same time.

That’s because we aren’t as stoopit as the Democrats think!

ladyingray on August 24, 2010 at 1:42 PM

OT/ Michael Steele…. the gift that keeps on giving!

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/115555-steele-says-sb-1070-not-a-reflection-of-an-entire-political-party

Republican National Committee Chairman Michael Steele refused to embrace Arizona’s controversial immigration law Tuesday during an interview with Univision, the country’s largest Spanish-language television network.

The actions of one state’s governor is not a reflection of an entire country, nor is it a reflection of an entire political party,” he said, referring to Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer and her support for S.B. 1070.

sharrukin on August 24, 2010 at 1:42 PM

They [Democrats] should promise to “improve” the law.

Oh yeah, it won’t work without a “public option”. A “public only option”.A mandatory “public only option”. Yeah, that’ll fix it so every one will like it!

cartooner on August 24, 2010 at 1:43 PM

Who’s going to go on the stump and brag about a 0.125% success rate?

the same ones that bragged about 3,000% of something….

Quant skills.

ted c on August 24, 2010 at 1:43 PM

I don’t see how someone with a questionable health record could not be nervous. If you are on a plan with a condition today, would you jump ship in all the uncertainty in the insurace market right now?

Other people with questionable health issues where those issues are paid for in cash and off the medical record radar screen are understandably cautious to jump out in the information sunshine.

The health insurance situation must stabilize before anyone will jump off into coverage unknown.

I could see this coming.

saiga on August 24, 2010 at 1:44 PM

What a naiive tool.

Let’s apply that thought other places.

“It’s unfair I’m only 5′9″ and not 6′9 cuz then I could play in the nba.”

“It’s unfair Miss America doesn’t want to marry me.”

“It’s unfair I have to…” etc

picklesgap on August 24, 2010 at 1:42 PM

Pretty much.

He didn’t get why me and some of the other posters ripped him a new one over that comment, as all of us had been responsible with our money and didn’t like the idea of being told “Well, you’ve been ‘given’ so much, so we’re taking X away from you” to pay for irresponsible people.

teke184 on August 24, 2010 at 1:46 PM

“Some people”? The program only anticipated being useful to 5% of the uninsured with pre-existing conditions. Shouldn’t that have been a red flag? And so far, it has resulted in a microscopic amount of enrollments compared to Congressional projections.

b.b..b.but isn’t there a website?

ted c on August 24, 2010 at 1:47 PM

What if you gave an entitlement party and no one came?

I had a naughty thought.

faraway on August 24, 2010 at 1:47 PM

Who in their right minds would trust this government if they have any alternatives?

d1carter on August 24, 2010 at 1:48 PM

I think most people overlooked the fact that people with pre-existing conditions had already found alternatives through either Medicare/Medicaid or some form of state subsidized health insurance. I know some working people here in CT that had serious pre-existing conditions and the State was covering most of their insurance premimums under some state program. There really was not a problem of “biblical” porpotions that we were led to believe.

Johnnyreb on August 24, 2010 at 1:48 PM

Who in their right minds would trust this government if they have any alternatives?

d1carter on August 24, 2010 at 1:48 PM

52% of Americans?

sharrukin on August 24, 2010 at 1:49 PM

Only a few thousand? So few, they could probably demand appearance fees for Democrat campaign events. Scarcity.

forest on August 24, 2010 at 1:50 PM

embarrassingly small:
unexpectedly small
keep claims small
microscopic

let’s add “flaccid” and “expensive” to this royal screwing and we’ve got ourselves a metaphor.

ted c on August 24, 2010 at 1:51 PM

Who’s going to go on the stump and brag about a 0.125% success rate?

“Watch me”:BHO

Caper29 on August 24, 2010 at 1:53 PM

Faced with that bad news, the pollsters came up with several recommendations for Democratic candidates.

1) Stone cold lie to their faces.

2) Call them racist wingnuts and storm from the room.

3) Tell them they’re idiots who can’t read.

4) Threaten IRS action.

5) Don’t even show up to talk about it.

Bishop on August 24, 2010 at 1:53 PM

sharrukin on August 24, 2010 at 1:49 PM

LOL, but not now…I hope.

d1carter on August 24, 2010 at 1:53 PM

According to this more people called then bothered to sign up.
http://www.walletpop.com/blog/2010/04/07/callers-flood-ehealthinsurance-asking-wheres-my-free-obama-care/

Cindy Munford on August 24, 2010 at 1:54 PM

LOL, but not now…I hope.

d1carter on August 24, 2010 at 1:53 PM

Yeah, we all hope, but they aren’t exactly the brightest bulbs on the Christmas tree.

sharrukin on August 24, 2010 at 1:57 PM

The dirty little secret is that for many of the uninsured, they haven’t been going without health care, they’ve just been doing it via hospital emergency rooms and then not paying their ER or ambulance bills, because the hospitals (and especially the publicly-funded ones) have to treat everyone who comes through their door. The private hospitals, insurers and the local or state governments ended up eating the cost or passing it on to people who are insured (which explains the $40 aspirin tablets in a hospital — you’re insurance is paying your bill and the guy or gal downstairs in the ER who either can’t or won’t pay anywhere near what their treatment cost).

So in their minds, why jump through four dozen hoops to get signed up for ‘free’ ObamaCare, when the ER option is still there, and they still face little or no pressure for not paying their medical bills?

jon1979 on August 24, 2010 at 2:01 PM

What if you gave an entitlement party and no one came?

Change the name to a “circle jerk” and all the obots will be there.

/too easy

ted c on August 24, 2010 at 2:06 PM

They hoped for 5%?!? By my calculations, 3600 is equal to .0012%. Sounds about right for this administration.

AubieJon on August 24, 2010 at 2:07 PM

By September, the program may have as many as 5,000 people enrolled in it — quite a low number for a program that will cost us trillions over the next two decades.

So, if not enough people sign up to spend all the money, do we the taxpayers get the rest of our money back?

Oops, sorry for asking.

Steve Z on August 24, 2010 at 2:09 PM

A couple of things, for one thing people have to been 6 months without coverage…for another this cost more than people thought it would. I think a lot of people thought this coverage would be either cheap or free and it is not.

Terrye on August 24, 2010 at 2:10 PM

They hoped for 5%?!? By my calculations, 3600 is equal to .0012%. Sounds about right for this administration.

AubieJon on August 24, 2010 at 2:07 PM

Sorry. I read it as 5% of the entire population.

AubieJon on August 24, 2010 at 2:10 PM

jon1979 on August 24, 2010 at 2:01 PM
People eligible already for CHIP or Medicaid can’t be bothered to fill out the paperwork required. I don’t know why anyone thought human nature would change when Obamacare was enacted. 49 million uninsured was a big fat lie used to try and get single payer.

txmomof6 on August 24, 2010 at 2:13 PM

jon1979 on August 24, 2010 at 2:01 PM

+10

docflash on August 24, 2010 at 2:17 PM

Waiting for the enforcement of those with pre existing conditions to be put on government care in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1….

C’mon…be troopers. It’s for the big O . *UGH*

capejasmine on August 24, 2010 at 2:20 PM

Here’s how Dean Wormer would grade Obamacare’s success …….

Zero. Point. Zero.

Thanks Obozo for dumping a truckload of fizzies in America’s pool ….

Jerome Horwitz on August 24, 2010 at 2:22 PM

Cindy Munford on August 24, 2010 at 1:54 PM

Well there it is. Proof that there are people out there so clueless. It still amazes me that people are that d@mn gullible, and stupid!

capejasmine on August 24, 2010 at 2:29 PM

Caller to Rush Friday said OboobaCare-compliant pre-existing conditions insurance in GA was $12,500/yr w/$2,500 deductible/yr AND you must have been uninsured for six months to qualify.

Akzed on August 24, 2010 at 2:35 PM

Democrats suck.

tommer74 on August 24, 2010 at 2:41 PM

“The actions of one state’s governor is not a reflection of an entire country,”
sharrukin on August 24, 2010 at 1:42 PM

Especially not when a huge majority of the entire country agrees with the actions of one state’s governor . . . right Mikey? Steele is such a pandering moron.

I think a lot of people thought this coverage would be either cheap or free and it is not.

Terrye on August 24, 2010 at 2:10 PM

Read somewhere that the premiums for NJ’s insurance program were something like $250 – $780 a month, depending on age and the nature of the pre-existing condition(s). Hard to imagine that there are many “uninsureds” out there who could afford to pay almost $800 a month in health insurance premiums.

AZCoyote on August 24, 2010 at 2:42 PM

Read somewhere that the premiums for NJ’s insurance program were something like $250 – $780 a month, depending on age and the nature of the pre-existing condition(s). Hard to imagine that there are many “uninsureds” out there who could afford to pay almost $800 a month in health insurance premiums.

AZCoyote on August 24, 2010 at 2:42 PM

I was paying $990 a month for Cadillac coverage for our 4 person family when I owned my own business. I’ve since become an employee and pay only $320/month for similar coverage.

So now I will be paying more for less and the people who thought they were getting it free are paying more than they would have been able to before this debacle was jammed down our throats.

Great work! I’m so glad we gave the car keys to the adults

Ditkaca on August 24, 2010 at 2:48 PM

The reason there have so few signing up is because the big lie was that there were millions that needed it. Anything to get a bill passed. Lies, lies and more lies.

Vince on August 24, 2010 at 2:51 PM

This is easily explainable; something like 400,000 people have suddenly been hired, and simply haven’t had time to fill out the applications. I know this because Nancy said this would happen.

BKeyser on August 24, 2010 at 2:57 PM

Caller to Rush Friday said OboobaCare-compliant pre-existing conditions insurance in GA was $12,500/yr w/$2,500 deductible/yr AND you must have been uninsured for six months to qualify.

Akzed on August 24, 2010 at 2:35 PM

Didn’t the caller also emphasize that the $12,000 a year was per person, as was the $2,500 deductible? All I remember for sure was….my mouth was agape the entire time they had this conversation.

capejasmine on August 24, 2010 at 3:02 PM

Republican Congressional candidate Anna Little should use the miniscule turnout in New Jersey (Two… Count ‘em!… Two enrollees!) as a club to beat Frank Pallone (D NJ-6).

Pallone was one of the prime movers and shakers on Obamacare. He must not be allowed to run away from it now.

Chris Christie won Pallone’s district by 15.5% just last year. Pallone can be beat, particularly with new like this.

Haiku Guy on August 24, 2010 at 3:04 PM

states have had little time to publicize the plans

If states are required to contribute part of the costs that would explain the lack of publicity.

agmartin on August 24, 2010 at 3:04 PM

Here is the URL for the US Government’s pre-existing insurance plan: https://pcip.gov/StatePlans.html. 22 States have kicked back to the Feds the coverage, as they don’t want to offer such plans in their State. Out of pocket costs can be as high as $5950 per year, plus a pretty hefty premium rate as well. Deductible before benefits begin is $2500 per person. Then there are co-pays, plus 80/20 coverage. The plan is a joke cost wise. And, anyone with a serious condition that subscribes will pay over $12,000/ year and push the premium costs out of site in the future, to be picked up by the taxpayers.

oldguy on August 24, 2010 at 3:34 PM

Clearly, the way to fix this is to spend money advertising the stuff you’re largely giving away, and give away a larger bundles of stuff.

Maybe they should give a free Chevy Volt and a mortgage with every insurance plan?

hawksruleva on August 24, 2010 at 3:43 PM

Out of pocket costs can be as high as $5950 per year, plus a pretty hefty premium rate as well. Deductible before benefits begin is $2500 per person.

oldguy on August 24, 2010 at 3:34 PM

That’s about what I pay for my family plan. With a $600 per month premium. Neither of us have any serious pre-existing stuff.

That is the cost of a good insurance plan. People don’t realize just how expensive insurance is if they get it from work. Ask your HR rep what the cobra cost of your plan would be if you left, you’ll be surprised.

angryed on August 24, 2010 at 4:36 PM

I love that photo of him. It`s like someone is blowing a whistle only he can hear.

ThePrez on August 24, 2010 at 4:46 PM

Why would anyone want to sign up for a government plan that might get repealed in a matter of months?

cthulhu on August 24, 2010 at 10:08 PM

It’s useless. People cannot afford it.

AnninCA on August 25, 2010 at 9:30 AM