John Kerry: “Very active” efforts underway to reach settlement with Taliban

posted at 7:15 pm on August 21, 2010 by Allahpundit

Skip ahead to 2:30 as he breaks some news — or does he? His description of a settlement is loaded with caveats, which puts it in line with what Obama, McCain, and even Petraeus were saying two years ago. Essentially, if there are members of the Taliban who are reconcilable, we’ll reconcile. Are there? Petraeus was asked about that literally yesterday and hedged by saying it’s not so much a question of what he thinks (although he urges people to keep an “open mind”), it’s a question of what the Afghan government wants. And Karzai very clearly wants to talk. So much so, in fact, that he’s had top advisors and coalition partners quit on him because of it. Supposedly he’s lost faith in NATO’s ability to keep the Taliban in check and is looking to neutralize them via a deal — negotiation from weakness, in other words — but the silver lining in that is that maybe he’ll think better of it if the big Kandahar offensive this fall goes well.

In the meantime, let’s check the history books. How have recent “peace treaties” with the Taliban worked out? Tom Malinowski, director of Human Rights Watch, remembers:

But before resigning ourselves to compromising our principles for peace, we must ask: Would such a trade-off bring the security it promises? This is where the realist argument collapses.

The same argument, after all, was made by Pakistan when it negotiated its 2008 settlement with the Taliban, giving it control of Swat Valley in exchange for pledges to recognize the writ of the central government and let women work without fear. The Taliban broke those promises; Pakistanis were horrified by images of women being whipped and schools being torched. Within months, the Pakistani army launched a massive military operation to retake what it had given away…

The same is likely to happen in Afghanistan if those Taliban leaders who have committed the worst atrocities are given control over the communities they terrorized. Images of abuses against women are likely to be broadcast around the world, raising the painful question of whether this is what foreign and Afghan troops sacrificed for. There could be retribution against perceived U.S. and government collaborators, and people fleeing areas where insurgents are given power. Afghanistan’s ethnic minorities (who together constitute a majority) are especially fearful of a deal that increases the Taliban’s influence; many Afghans believe that a hasty process could lead to a broader civil war.

I.e. there may be individual members of the Taliban who are reconcilable, but not the movement as a whole. As a gloss on his point, take five minutes and read Bill Roggio’s analysis last year of the latest in a series of dopey peace accords between Pakistan and the Taliban. A sneak preview of Afghanistan?

The past peace agreements, which were started under former President Pervez Musharraf’s regime in 2004, have served only to grant the Taliban the time it needed to regroup from fighting with the Pakistani military. While the military has been unable or unwilling to dislodge the Taliban from its safe havens, the Taliban had little time to recoup losses and coordinate efforts. The peace agreements gave the Taliban the respite needed to reorganize.

During the “peace periods” the Taliban would use the time granted to add new recruits, rest and re-arm its forces, and consolidate control over the new-found territory. The peace agreements also served to embolden and restore the morale of the Taliban while demoralizing those who fought against the Taliban and live in the regions. The Taliban would conduct ruthless purges of anyone expected of supporting the government. Hundreds of tribal leaders and others have been murdered and often were mutilated. Almost all would have notes labeling them as “US spies” pinned to their chests.

With opposition to the war at an all-time high and bound to turn more ferocious if Democrats lose the House in the fall, there’s only so much leverage Obama has here. Presumably his and Petraeus’s thinking in kinda sorta supporting Karzai’s outreach to the Taliban is that by playing along we at least get some input on the terms. It’s depressing, though, to think that circumstances have reached the point where a leader as weak and corrupt as Karzai can drive U.S. policy on an issue as momentous as this. The tail wags the dog.

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Once a weak kneed yellow coward, always a weak kneed yellow coward.

Zorro on August 22, 2010 at 9:10 AM

Trying to sound as if he’s in the know. What an inflated ego for someone who’s never done a damn thing in his whole life. Our Army is there to fight a war and kill the enemy. If I was a soldier in Afghanistan would I want to go out and risk my life when my elected leaders are trying to negotiate a deal with the enemy. We’ve totally lost focus on the meaning of war.

Kissmygrits on August 22, 2010 at 10:37 AM

Great job Kerry, that’s good for at least 10 medals… that you could nominate yourself for.

whiskeytango on August 22, 2010 at 10:45 AM

I have the utmost confidence in John Kerry being able to negotiate with the Taliban. /s

scalleywag on August 22, 2010 at 10:57 AM

Why would we negotiate with the Taliban? Beat the crap out of them and there won’t be any need for talking.

BetseyRoss on August 22, 2010 at 11:02 AM

50 years later and still dead wrong. Time for another
photo with his main squeeze Hanoi Jane.

How do these pukes manage to live so long ??

Texyank on August 22, 2010 at 12:51 PM

I blame Bush. If our policy in Afghanistan had been, associate with the dogs, and you get fleas-associate with the Taliban, and you get dead. (hit a woman, and we assume you are Taliban)

Slowburn on August 22, 2010 at 3:09 PM

What I’d love to see is a Time Magazine cover with Kerry’s ugly, Lurch-like, orange face, minus the nose the Taliban’s “negotiator” sawed off his face with a flattened spoon. His every word shows how much of a disgrace and a coward he is. While I don’t hold the Navy is being a bastion of courage in combat (with the exception of the rarities called SeALs and Marines), he’s even making them look bad. Negotiations with an enemy that whips and disfigures women? Diplomacy to allow a terrorist organization back into power that specializes in tyranny and oppression, hell-bent on murder and terror against those that don’t support that satanic bible that they call the Quran? What form of life is lower and more stupid than the American socialist? Every other country in the world adopts socialism and communism, every other country immediately goes into the toilet of failure. Yet the American socialist/communist (statist) thinks they can do it better.

‘It won’t happen, here, because we’re Americans, and our socialism will be better.’

Apparently, the socialist/communist (statist) is militarily stupid, too. They see an example that’s so fresh, it doesn’t even have dust on it from the last time someone tried negotiating with the Taliban on giving them land and authority, and yet they have absolutely no capability to learn from it, just as socialists/communists/statists have no capability of learning just about anything, except for new ways to oppress and steal. The Swift Boat veterans really had Kerry’s number.

Obama and Kerry represent the lowest forms of life. They advocate pullbacks and capitulation, when speaking to the enemy, and aggression and belligerence, when dealing with the American people. Scumbags that didn’t get Kerry and his hideous, venom-spitting wife (Terry Kerry) into office strike back, by getting this anti-Christian, Jew-hating coward and islamophile into the White House. I think of Kerry wearing a turban on his head, and then I get to thinking about Vlad the Impaler, and what he did when a couple of Ottoman imperial Turks entered his court, and disrespectfully refused to remove their turbans in his presence and upon being ordered to do so. America does not deserve to be trusted. Petty democrat bureaucrats have made an intentional & concerted effort to undermine and back-stab every political ally we have in the world, just to curry non-existent, non-forthcoming favor with those that hate us to the death, and we’ve shown a willingness and joy in throwing dissenting nations under the international bus, without a second’s hesitation. No wonder the Afghan government’s willing to talk to the Taliban butchers; they’ll be more straightforward and honest with them, than America will, as long as we let people like Kerry and Obama maintain political power. If they continue to wonder why the People are increasingly expressing hatred and contempt for these petty bureaucrats that regularly lavish the People with hatred and contempt, they need to read something: Daniel 4:17, Geneva Bible.

Virus-X on August 22, 2010 at 5:55 PM

The Taliban and all radical Islamic murderers just couldn’t find a better protector then the the dem/commie party if they were asked

good for you commie loser friends of tyrants

Sonosam on August 22, 2010 at 6:32 PM

John Kerry.

Undermining America since 1972.

BowHuntingTexas on August 22, 2010 at 8:14 PM

I looked up “empty suit” in the dictionary, and it showed a picture of Kerry.

MassVictim on August 23, 2010 at 12:31 PM

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