Alan Grayson to Ground Zero mosque opponents: Hey, Bush was the one who let 9/11 happen
posted at 12:33 pm on August 20, 2010 by Allahpundit
Via Mark Finkelstein, it pains me to say it but I think Congress’s trolliest troll is getting a bad rap here. The Screw Loose Change guys read this as evidence of Trutherism, that Grayson’s saying Bush let the attack happen on purpose to advance the secret neoKKKon war agenda or whatever. What he’s actually doing, I think, is accusing Bush of negligence in having not paid more attention to the famous President’s Daily Brief on August 6, 2001 about Bin Laden’s intentions. Big difference between those two positions, of course, as the “on purpose” crowd means to accuse Bush of being a willing accomplice in the attack. But go figure that people might not be willing to give Grayson the benefit of the doubt after the insane rhetorical bombthrowing he’s engaged in this year to raise his media profile.
Anyway, there are two things I like about this clip. One: It’s a perfect peg to remind people who are fretting over the stupid “Obama is a Muslim” polls that Trutherism polled pretty darned well back in the day too. And two: The irony of Grayson dumping on Bush this way when Democrats are desperate to get Dubya to weigh in on their side on the issue du jour is simply too golden to be ignored. My suggested headline for if/when Bush grants their wish: “Guy who let 9/11 happen sides with mosque supporters.”
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Just keep talking.
JammieWearingFool on August 20, 2010 at 12:35 PM
Am I the only one who thinks his parents were blood relatives?
CurtZHP on August 20, 2010 at 12:36 PM
Yeah, AQ bread like rabbits under 8 years of Clinton…and that’s Bush’s fault.
RobertInLexington on August 20, 2010 at 12:36 PM
And what was Bush supposed to do with the memo? Profile Arabs getting on planes for extra security? Yeah that would have gone over well with Grayson and Co. I’m sure.
angryed on August 20, 2010 at 12:37 PM
Wow, a TRUTHER on MSNBC. I’m shocked!
RNC please just run this full effing blast non-stop.
tetriskid on August 20, 2010 at 12:38 PM
I swear, Grayson’s possibly more useful to us the more attention he gets. He’s the new Kucinich.
OhioCoastie on August 20, 2010 at 12:38 PM
Would it surprise anyone to find out Grayson was among the 40% of Dems who think Bush did it or knew about it and let it happen?
BadgerHawk on August 20, 2010 at 12:38 PM
Will no one rid us of this turbulent congressidiot?
quikstrike98 on August 20, 2010 at 12:38 PM
Lizards more likely…
IntheNet on August 20, 2010 at 12:39 PM
His Father was that kid on the bridge in Deliverance..:)
Dire Straits on August 20, 2010 at 12:39 PM
Didn’t the Clinton inattention also contribute to what happened on 911? He’d had much longer to figure out what was going on than Mr. Bush did. Call me crazy, but I gotta hand this one back to ‘ole Bill.
jakev on August 20, 2010 at 12:40 PM
MSNBC likes having former Florida congressmen on their staff (see Scarborough, Joe), so I think Grayson is simply toning up his resume for a job as a paid talking head for them after January 1.
jon1979 on August 20, 2010 at 12:40 PM
Considering that Grayson has been on Alex Jones’ show more than once, I don’t think it’s a stretch to think he might be a truther.
MadisonConservative on August 20, 2010 at 12:40 PM
OK my take is the following. “Bush let 9/11 happen”. In my world if someone let’s something happen, that means they could have prevented it. Not buying that Bush could have prevented 9/11 from happening. Maybe Clinton could have prevented it, if he had taken Osama out, but I doubt that too.
Johnnyreb on August 20, 2010 at 12:40 PM
So its Bush’s fault that Clinton let Bin Laden get away when he had the chance? Bush’s fault we had a completely weakened intelligence community? Bush’s fault these people got Visas and resident status in the US to begin with? Bush’s fault Grayson looks more and more like a muppet?
I can tell ya one thing, it’ll be partially Obama’s fault (and to a point Grayson’s) when we clear these idiots out of congress.
Rbastid on August 20, 2010 at 12:41 PM
LIHOP – Let it happen on purpose
Is the original trutherism. Soft trutherism it’s more commonly known as.
MIHOP – Made it happen on purpose
Cheney plants the bombs in the WTC.
They are very close, intimate cousins.
lorien1973 on August 20, 2010 at 12:41 PM
It would not suprise me if this fool did not think it was an inside job..what a kook..:)
PS..Is he married to Cindy Shehan?
Dire Straits on August 20, 2010 at 12:41 PM
Grayson evidently wants to unseat Franken as the comic-relief in-chief of Washington.
GarandFan on August 20, 2010 at 12:42 PM
Also, that’s liberal hero Grayson to you.
lorien1973 on August 20, 2010 at 12:42 PM
Next week Grayson will dredge up something about the 2000 election being stolen, complete with a ziploc baggie full of little chads.
Let it go, whackjob, just let it go.
Bishop on August 20, 2010 at 12:43 PM
heh
ted c on August 20, 2010 at 12:43 PM
Grayson does not get the benefit of the doubt. He’s a flat out stupid crazy person. (And not in the good sense of stupid crazy.)
We have to laugh at him because otherwise the fact that he’s helping to make our laws is too damn painful.
rbj on August 20, 2010 at 12:43 PM
You’ve got to wonder how much of this stuff Grayson really believes, and how much of it is just attention-seeking behavior.
Slublog on August 20, 2010 at 12:43 PM
Nah he might confuse it with the bag of chud he carries around.
lorien1973 on August 20, 2010 at 12:43 PM
The face of the Democratic party.
WisCon on August 20, 2010 at 12:43 PM
Riddle me this, Al–why is Barry just sitting there reading My Pet TOTUS while the country falls apart? And why’s he such a chicken that he’s constantly AWOL on vaycay instead of rushing back to DC to reassure the nation that he’s got things under control?
Btw, anyone seen Sheriff Joe? Maybe he’s hiding in that
undisclosed location.Christien on August 20, 2010 at 12:44 PM
I love this guy for all the wrong reasons, hehe.
thebrokenrattle on August 20, 2010 at 12:44 PM
each of them screaming “ALGORE”!!!!
ted c on August 20, 2010 at 12:44 PM
While I agree with you that Grayson doesn’t appear to a Truther. I have a problem with the comparison of the “9/11 was an Inside Job/Obama is a Muslim” polls. Not liking someone’s choice of religion and accusing them of killing three thousand people are just too fundamentally different.
Cindy Munford on August 20, 2010 at 12:44 PM
Alan Grayson must be on a crusade to make Roseanne Barr look sane by comparison. It’s a valiant effort.
RBMN on August 20, 2010 at 12:44 PM
“Benefit of the doubt” my a**, Grayson needs to be ******* kicked out on his backside. He’s a perpetual embarrassment to his state and his district.
Merovign on August 20, 2010 at 12:45 PM
The Democrats want to have it both ways. First, they want Boooosh to run interference for Obama’s mosque proclaimation and now they want to blame Boooosh for 911. Idjits.
kingsjester on August 20, 2010 at 12:46 PM
As my dear old Grandma would say: “That boys pudding ain’t quite done”.
BacaDog on August 20, 2010 at 12:46 PM
The terrifying part of all this, the thing that makes me add an extra layer of padding under the shag carpet in my bunker, is that Grayson is making decisions that affect the rest of us.
Bishop on August 20, 2010 at 12:47 PM
As much as I hat this tool, he has a minor point. We should have been keeping our distance from the Saudis before hand, and gone after them for for their part in the attacks. It seems like, even to this day, our support for so-called allies like SA and the Pakis is taking priority over getting the job done. Those two have always been way more central to the planning, financing, and execution of terror the world over than Afghanistan or Iraq ever were. Not to mention that Saudi money builds the madrassas that will keep the jihad going for generations. It’s the ideas and money behind the mosques that we need to resist and divorce ourselves from.
abobo on August 20, 2010 at 12:47 PM
It couldn’t be that Slick Clintoon ignored the first WTC bombing, or that he was paying too much attention to the intern under the desk, or that he spent all that time sugar-coating Reno’s Waco massacre, or that he took another junket to Africa every time another scandal broke, or that Slick was busy obstructing justice for Paula Jones, or kissing up to the ChiComs for campaign loot, or selling White House coffees, or entertaining Johnny Huang, or threatening Haiti before rapidly retreating?
No, it couldn’t be any of that ! It has to be W’s fault for inheriting the whorehouse Slick Clintoon, Reno’s DOJ train wreck and Bubba’s pimps Stufiinenvelopes, Carville, Begala etc. had left behind.
viking01 on August 20, 2010 at 12:48 PM
Another day of Stupid!!
The correct answer,is Bill Clinton,and Bill was so
serious about National Security that when Yesser
Arafat was twiddling his thumbs on a bench in the
rose garden,Bill was being serviced with an oil
change by Monica the Mechanic!!
canopfor on August 20, 2010 at 12:48 PM
Uh … that particular PDB had no information that was later than 1999. If anything, it damns Clinton.
darwin on August 20, 2010 at 12:48 PM
Under what rock did the voters dig up this slimy, stupid SOB?
rplat on August 20, 2010 at 12:48 PM
What gets me is that every single solitary time Alan Grayson is presented with the opportunity to prove to the world that he can actually be a objective, useful, open-minded, constructive member of Congress, he ends up still looking like the embarassingly certified liberalistic moronic idiot he has proven himself to be over and over and over again!
Why is this clown in Congress? What has he done to deserve to be there? And why does the MSM still suffer from the delusion that this guy has anything to say that is worth listening to?
pilamaye on August 20, 2010 at 12:49 PM
…
Well, at least MSNBC got the memo that it’s a “community center” and not the GZM anymore.
Rude on August 20, 2010 at 12:51 PM
I know, I need to research who this fool beat in his election. I shudder to think.
Cindy Munford on August 20, 2010 at 12:51 PM
I’d go with ‘Alan Grayson, leader of the Democrat Party’ but for the fact that President Obama is doing a bang-up job of nosediving the party into an empty pool already.
BadgerHawk on August 20, 2010 at 12:52 PM
Cenk Uygur is the perfect substitute for Crazy Ed…Oh, the other kook is a Congressman from Florida? Don’t it make you proud?
d1carter on August 20, 2010 at 12:52 PM
If this is the way that the left asks “Please?!” to GWB, then…..I’m not thinking that he’s going to want to help very much.
ted c on August 20, 2010 at 12:53 PM
Let us not miss Grayson’s reference to Bush being on vacation..I still can’t believe he said that..:0
Dire Straits on August 20, 2010 at 12:53 PM
1993 WTC Bombing + Mogadishu + USS Cole = 9/11
Klinton’s watch = de-fanged the FBI and other Intel services
lilspitfire on August 20, 2010 at 12:54 PM
If GWB “let it happen”, then so did Bill Clinton, in a bigger way.
The left either don’t think, or are malicious scum, or are simply impertinent.
Schadenfreude on August 20, 2010 at 12:56 PM
Are you suggesting his family tree has no branches?
Extrafishy on August 20, 2010 at 12:56 PM
ahahaha!
ps AWESOME SCREEN SHOT.
blatantblue on August 20, 2010 at 12:58 PM
2 additions.
ted c on August 20, 2010 at 12:59 PM
This guy, whether he believes what he says or not, is pulling the classic tactic of saying outrageous things to get a reaction. It’s called baiting. Ignore it.
Weebork on August 20, 2010 at 1:00 PM
bin Laden himself said that the attacks were supposed to happen while Clinton was still in office, but were delayed when Mohammed Atta told him he needed more training time. That added time obviously was successful, as he and his team achieved 75% of their objectives that morning.
In other words, Bush inherited the 9/11 attacks from his predecessor.
Further proof of this can be found in the actions of the Clintonites after the attack-placing a high ranking Justice Department official on the “9/11 Commission” solely so she would not be able to be questioned under oath, and also the escapade with Sandy Berger stealing and destroying classified documents.
And don’t forget their attempts to censor the “Road to 9/11″ film, which continue to this day, as Disney has been pressured by them to never release it on DVD.
Del Dolemonte on August 20, 2010 at 1:00 PM
OT: I know you like airplane stuff..Check this out..:)
Dire Straits on August 20, 2010 at 1:01 PM
Wasn’t Clinton’s fault. Those warnings were somewhere down Sandy Berger’s pants and never made it to the briefings.
Extrafishy on August 20, 2010 at 1:03 PM
Grayson’s reasoning:
The Mosque isn’t an insult to America, it’s and insult to Bush. That makes it OK.
zmdavid on August 20, 2010 at 1:04 PM
I’m only surprised that Grayson didn’t say, “Hey, Bush was the one who made 9/11 happen.”
It’s a complete non sequitur either way, though.
Aitch748 on August 20, 2010 at 1:04 PM
He and Olbermann should retire to a cozy little cottage in Tuscany or something and do what those “types” do. And by that I don’t mean gays, as much as I’m talking about Satanic worshipers perving out with animals types.
My apologies however to Satanic worshipers who like to perv out with animals…I perhaps went to far.
TiminPhx on August 20, 2010 at 1:05 PM
The more I see of these rants, Weiner,Grayson,Patrick Kennedy, Pelosi on and on I have come to the conclusion that in order to be a DEM you have to be deranged, crazy or have a screw loose or all the above.
What constituents do these pathetic excuses represent, The Cuckoo’s Nest?
concernedsenior on August 20, 2010 at 1:06 PM
I don’t know about canopfor, but I thought that was way cool. Thanks for sharing.
Extrafishy on August 20, 2010 at 1:08 PM
ditto. that was really cool! thx.
ted c on August 20, 2010 at 1:08 PM
Like punch each other in the face 900 times and blame their pain on BoooooSHHH???
BigWyo on August 20, 2010 at 1:10 PM
The August 2001 PDB was mostly a compendium of info given in a December 1998 PDB to Bill Clinton.
It must always be pointed out when the left brings this up. The existance of the August PDB was leaked in spring 2002 and spun with the “Bush Knew” but ignored or didn’t address lie put on it. That tells you everything you need to know about anyone who pushed and continues to push that story.
KittyLowrey on August 20, 2010 at 1:10 PM
Hey Alan…
what happen to ya cue card….
U know… if people don’t agree with ya it’s because they want people to die…
what an embarrassment….. Jefferson… Adams… GRAYSON?
Bwahahahahahahahaha
Point and laugh kids…. point and laugh
roflmao
donabernathy on August 20, 2010 at 1:11 PM
Can someone please explain to me why it’s such a terrible thing that 20% of Americans thank Obama is a Muslim? Hugh Hewitt hyperventilated about it for three hours last night, and Allahpundit compares it to Trutherism in this post.
I don’t get it. Seriously, who cares? If it were true, it would just be one more lie from Obama, and what is so bad about being a Muslim that raises this controversy to a crisis?
Kensington on August 20, 2010 at 1:12 PM
If by Bush, you mean Clinton, then you’re right. Ya inbred yokle.
Geronimo on August 20, 2010 at 1:13 PM
Will someone defeat this schmuck?
ahem on August 20, 2010 at 1:13 PM
Living in Orlando I’ve had a front row seat to this idiot’s stage show. Fortunately, it looks like it only has one act!
The lineup of Conservatives waiting to run against this guy is long and deep and his district is light purple.
Grab the popcorn Nov. 2nd
GrayDog on August 20, 2010 at 1:20 PM
Cenk Uygur? Isn’t that the medical name for an infected boil?
50sGuy on August 20, 2010 at 1:23 PM
Grayson is just being put out there by berri while he vacations as one of a plethora of distractions designed to make his holiday a more enjoyable one.
Here’s something that we should really worry about:
At the rate obama expertly and deliberately creates constant chaos and confusion, throwing dung on every American like a caged animal who missed his supper, his termite-demons in all the regulatory and czar’s offices can write, unmolested by anyone looking over their shoulders, the health care and financial reform bills which nobody read, nor knows if they were just pages full of meaningless words. They are now being “legislated” by obama’s shadow executive branch.
But I digress.
One of the things that the chaos has wrought that has galled me, is that so many usually sharp thinkers became melon-heads that have been on the vine too long, as they took pot-shots at the deliberately easy, shiny target obama dangled.
I’M TALKING ABOUT NASA.
WHY DOES ANYONE BELIEVE AND ACCEPT THAT THIS AGENCY, WHICH IS THE FOUNTAINHEAD OF AMERICAN EXCEPTIONALISM, TECHNOLOGY FOR WAR, PEACE AND UNITED STATES SECURITY, HAS MERELY BEEN TURNED INTO A MUSLIM OUTREACH CENTER?????
The fact that obama could unilaterally take over NASA is inconceivable, yet there has been nary a peep. The only sound I’ve heard from conservatives is smug ridicule, “Oh, right, now we’ve got to use NASA to make muslims feel good about themselves. Thanks, obama.”
How about something more like this:
“WE DON’T BELIEVE FOR ONE SECOND YOUR INSULTING, UNCONSTITUTIONAL STORY ABOUT TAKING OVER NASA TO MAKE MUZZIES FEEL GOOD.
How about:
WE WANT TO SEE WHAT, WHERE AND TO WHOM THE BUDGET FOR NASA IS GOING.
WE WANT TO SEE WHAT, WHERE AND TO WHOM INFORMATION ON OUR TECHNOLOGY IS GOING.
WE WANT TO SEE WHAT, WHERE AND TO WHOM THE MONEY THAT WAS TO BE USED TO KEEP US IN SPACE IS GOING NOW THAT YOU HAVE GROUNDED THE ENTIRE SPACE PROGRAM.
HOW IN THE NAME OF GOD DID ANYONE BELIEVE, PARROT, MAKE FUN OF AND LET OBAMA GET AWAY WITH “THIS WAS JUST A FEEL-GOOD MOVE FOR THE MUZZIES”????
I can just see obama sneering at how quickly we suckers swallowed the bait – hook, line and sinker. I can hear him say, “Those rubes can’t resist an easy target. My cover story makes no sense, but they’ll fall all over themselves to try to show how smart they are just to insult me. Dummies.”
How do we know Obama isn’t busy transferring NASA’s entire budget and technology to Islam?
Do we think he intended to take over NASA for the muslims, only to waste it’s power and might on “self-esteem” kindergarten exercises???
Does anyone else wonder if missile building and guidance technology isn’t NUMBER ONE ON THESE THIRD-WORLD-SEVENTH-CENTURY-SAVAGES LIST??????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wake up, melon heads! NASA has been stolen from us, and given to the muzzies. And as usual, obama’s twist of the knife in our back has us footing the bill.
And we will pay for it in more many more ways than one.
tigerlily on August 20, 2010 at 1:25 PM
What district does Grayson represent? Somewhere near Orlando? Somewhere near Florida flight schools where some of the 9-11 hijackers were learning to take off and not land, and nobody bothered to notify the FBI, and Jamie Gorelick built a wall between the FBI and the CIA under the Clinton Administration. And Clinton had the chance in 1996 to take custody of Bin Laden from the Saudis, but Clinton didn’t have a good enough lawyer to indict him.
Yeah, sure, Bush let it happen. Because nobody told him what Al Qaeda was planning, and Clinton let Bin Laden get away, and cut our military defenses in half.
Now New York Muslims want a place to pray for a re-run.
Steve Z on August 20, 2010 at 1:28 PM
What kind of fools elect such an arrogant bastard?
RedNewEnglander on August 20, 2010 at 1:29 PM
That’s basically what he is. His Young Turk videos on YouTube are pure liberal and dhimmi snide.
MadisonConservative on August 20, 2010 at 1:31 PM
Thank goodness we no longer have a president who takes the entire month of August off to go on vacation.
/sarc off
WV736 on August 20, 2010 at 1:31 PM
Sorry if someone already wrote this:
Alan Grayson–the gift that keeps on giving
mwbri on August 20, 2010 at 1:32 PM
I thought they passed a law that said you were still brother and sister even if you got divorced.
jdawg on August 20, 2010 at 1:33 PM
I also don’t understand why there isn’t more outrage. I don’t even understand what he has done to it to make it an outreach to the muslims, other than getting rid of the space program. I see it as he doesn’t want us to have the sky to protect ourselves if these idiots decide to launch, whatever.
You know Glenn Beck had a recording where obama was asked if he believed in Jesus Christ. And his answer was, well he is a great teacher. Isn’t believing that he is the son of G-d what makes a Christian? Muslims believe he was a prophet. Is that what the traitor in office is saying?
Who in the heck is running against this grayson, so that we can get behind them? I’d also like to know who is trying to put out pelosi, anyone?
Bambi on August 20, 2010 at 1:35 PM
canopfor on August 20, 2010 at 12:48 PM
OT: I know you like airplane stuff..Check this out..:)
Dire Straits on August 20, 2010 at 1:01 PM
Dire Straits: Now that was awesome,and its TGIF to boot,
thanks!:)
canopfor on August 20, 2010 at 1:37 PM
It’s just that, whenever I see his picture, I immediately hear “Dueling Banjos” in my head.
CurtZHP on August 20, 2010 at 1:40 PM
If Clinton shares no blame for 9/11, I guess W doesn’t have to share any blame for the current economy.
Kataklysmic on August 20, 2010 at 1:40 PM
Once, when I was a wee small leprechaun, my sixth grade class was taken on a field trip. We toured the local sewage treatment plant. Viewing anything involving Mr. Grayson causes me to have severe flashbacks, right down to the sickening, overpowering, stench. I’ll take a pass on watching/listening to the gentleman. But thanks for the offer.
oldleprechaun on August 20, 2010 at 1:43 PM
Alan Grayson is the voice of the new democrat party. There must be a lot of people in Grayson’s district who think and act just like him because they keep electing him to Office.
Wonder what type of medication he is on or should be on.
flintstone on August 20, 2010 at 1:44 PM
Where will the billions which were budgeted for, of all things, NASA keeping Americans in space, technological advancement and weapons applications, go to now that obama has canceled NASA’s reason for being???
The Islamic middle east comes to mind.
I just can’t believe obama’s getting away with all he has gotten away with. He’s flushing the nation down the toilet and nothing is stopping him.
Even if we get November done, his shadow executive branch is legislating through thousands of deeply imbedded regulators, executive orders and scores “czars”. Will that be pulled out, root and branch?
It’s an indictment on all Americans that obama deserves a solid A+.
tigerlily on August 20, 2010 at 1:54 PM
Hey Allah, this is the second time you’ve called people who suspect a man with a Muslim father (and step father) might be Muslim himself, stupid. It comes across as intolerant, and, frankly, damn rude.
teacherman on August 20, 2010 at 1:57 PM
How did landing gear crash through the GZ Mosque site? Bush, you genius.
faraway on August 20, 2010 at 1:57 PM
Wow – this is great. The Ground Zero Mosque issue is like throwing a pile of horsepoop on the ground while hunting for flies. Every whack job has been attracted to this issue providing the GOP with sound bite clips to last a lifetime!
Allah is probably right about Graysons position but when carved into a 5 second sound bite he will look like the whack job that he is.
iam7545 on August 20, 2010 at 1:58 PM
You know, I just can’t help thinking everytime I see this d*ckweed on television, how good his face would look framed by my toilet. Him and Al Franken should get their own show; Best Buy would be selling TV’s hand over fist for all the people breaking theirs at home listening to those two trash receptacles blathering on.
austinnelly on August 20, 2010 at 2:03 PM
Anyone know if this grotesque ogre is getting tossed in November?
Jaibones on August 20, 2010 at 2:09 PM
The vacuous boob has spoken!
MCGIRV on August 20, 2010 at 2:14 PM
@angryed To quote Die Hard 2, “But, John McClane, he’s got a little problem. Hell, let’s shut down the hole f*****g airport. Now, what do you think they’re gonna say upstairs when I’m gonna tell them that?”
Except that we would have had to shut down all the airports, because we didn’t know which one(s). Coming from a background in intelligence, there was no actionable intelligence in that report. It was a very general threat.
munseym on August 20, 2010 at 2:23 PM
Grayson is vulnerable, but his defeat is not a done deal. The the seat leans only slightly R, and the SOB has a lot of cash on hand. We’re going to need to even that score.
Tres Angelas on August 20, 2010 at 2:23 PM
In case any of you havn’t seen it yet (I believe many of us have), here’s a link to a PDF of the Gorelick memo at nationalreview.com.
I wish more people would read it.
listens2glenn on August 20, 2010 at 2:28 PM
ROFLMAO!!! Yup! I’m starting to wonder. And to that, I have to say…it’s to dang bad his parents let him happen! This man makes a good example of why we shouldn’t drink, and procreate!
capejasmine on August 20, 2010 at 2:28 PM
It appears that link is not working, so I’ll try again.
This time I’ll link to freerepublick.com and at the top of that page you will find a working link to the PDF at nationalreview,com.
listens2glenn on August 20, 2010 at 2:35 PM
If you want to get rid of Alan Grayson and help elect Florida’s Michele Bachmann, support Patricia Sullivan. I know her well, and she’s by far the best candidate for the job. Tea party organizer, home schooler, patriot. The primary’s in 4 days. Pleeeeease don’t leave me stuck with Grayson for another term.
[end political ad]
Ronnie on August 20, 2010 at 2:36 PM
Can you imagine the offspring if Grayson married Pelosi?
diogenes on August 20, 2010 at 2:39 PM
Agreed.
And what if obama is a muslim? He is, technically, according to Islamic teaching. It would be very informative if someone would ask obama whether he accepts or rejects that particular teaching, wouldn’t it?
And why shouldn’t he be asked? He is the one so willing to bring Islam into all things American. He has told us that Islam has always been part of America. Well, we have an American president born to a Muslim father and adopted by a muslim man in Indonesia. Does obama accept or reject his Islamic faith passed to him paternally?
It is a question based on a matter of fact, no snark intended.
And he has many curious, exhaustively listed, here and elsewhere, attachments, attractions and behaviours to Islam that I don’t think would be displayed by any Christian-American, even remotely.
For example, as a Christian, I could say, “I have known Christianity on three continents” because to KNOW a religious faith is to intimitately accept it in your heart.
I could never say that I have KNOWN buddhism, or hinduism, or Islam, even if I lived for years in nations where these faiths were dominant.
I could say I lived side-by-side WITH, or KNEW OF them, but never that I KNEW them, because as a practicing Christian,
the only faith I KNOW is Christianity.
However, in the Cairo speech, whose message to the Islamic world from obama could not be overestimated; a speech designed to be heard by billions around the world, where every word must be precise, obama speaks like a natural muslim in several passages, and, as a self-proclaimed Christian, nonetheless proclaims that he has KNOWN Islam on three continents, including North America.
Sorry to say, but these subtleties would be lost on someone who practices no religion, and has but a shallow and many times misrepresentative, incorrectly formed view of Christianity.
These factors would leave one at a distinct disadvantage to make an external judgement (only God can judge obama internally) about obama’s external manifestation of Christian belief. It leaves one to fall back on the word of “pastors” who vouch for obama. One of these pastors, post-Wright, is, according to Glenn Beck’s research, a communist sympathizer at the very least. Last time I checked, communism and Christianty don’t go together. At all. I don’t know who the second pastor is.
As for using outsiders like these pastors and KP as credible sources, because one has no “inside” knowledge or perspective, well, one loses the argument right there.
So, the last refuge, or in this case the first, of a lost argument is the ad hominem. Stupid.
tigerlily on August 20, 2010 at 2:42 PM
Jim Geraghty on Twitter a few hours ago:
leilani on August 20, 2010 at 2:43 PM
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