Video: Metaphor of the day!

posted at 3:35 pm on August 19, 2010 by Allahpundit

A video ode to the news story of the week in all its muscular, seething, rage-filled glory. For weeks the Ground Zero mosque meme paced the ring, biding its time while eyeing the pols and pundits in the crowd. Then The One spoke — and the beast made its move.

And now, my friends, none of us is safe.

Hey, isn’t that Pelosi in the audience, running for her political life?

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Bishop:Bird season is coming up,I AM A PARTRIDGE MONSTER!:)
canopfor on August 19, 2010 at 4:18 PM

Wait. You mean to tell me that you are using a shotgun to maul birds, and if they aren’t dead from the gunshot you have to crush their necks by a rapid twisting motion? All so you can have a few fork-fulls of meat? You make me sick. Murderer.

Bishop on August 19, 2010 at 4:21 PM

Then I process the meat, sell the hide, and sometimes nail the head to the wall of my shop. OMG…am I really doing all of that? Nailing heads to walls, skinning them, I’m like a modern-day Ed Gein! Stop me before I kill again!

Bishop on August 19, 2010 at 4:19 PM

Bishop: That sounds like sooooooooooooo much work,.410
and No.5 shells,birds that is!!:)

canopfor on August 19, 2010 at 4:22 PM

carbon_footprint on August 19, 2010 at 4:14 PM

No problem. Although now I am curious to go back to the Bush welcomes home troops thread again and read the posts and not just search for my name to see who you confused me with.

NotCoach on August 19, 2010 at 4:22 PM

From what I understand, Spanish bulls are steaked and eaten which presumably is making use of them, yes?

Perhaps, but you miss the point.

Look, I have seen you write loving comments about your dogs. Do you approve of dog fighting? What’s the difference here? Torture of animals for betting or entertainment.

carbon_footprint on August 19, 2010 at 4:22 PM

carbon_footprint on August 19, 2010 at 4:19 PM

I vividly remember the Michael Vick threads. Their answer is yes.

Disturb the Universe on August 19, 2010 at 4:22 PM

carbon_footprint on August 19, 2010 at 4:14 PM

No problem. Although now I am curious to go back to the Bush welcomes home troops thread again and read the posts and not just search for my name to see who you confused me with.

NotCoach on August 19, 2010 at 4:22 PM

Thanks. His name is Pappy something or another. I apologize for mixing you up.

carbon_footprint on August 19, 2010 at 4:23 PM

Perhaps El Pollo Loco should feature cock fight nights.

Disturb the Universe on August 19, 2010 at 4:23 PM

Here we go!!
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Ted Nugent- Great White Buffalo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-1s4L8dvYs

canopfor on August 19, 2010 at 4:24 PM

From what I understand, Spanish bulls are steaked and eaten which presumably is making use of them, yes?

In some cases, the meat is given to the poor. Why? Because the treatment the bull goes through makes the meat bad for general consumption. So, not really.

I shoot animals with razor-tipped arrows, often it takes more than one and you wouldn’t believe how difficult it can be to hit the sweet spots that actually kill them immediately . Most times they run off with multiple shafts protruding from their ribs, bleeding and bellowing, trying to keep me from catching them and slitting their throat.

So wait…you try to kill them immediately? You try to avoid them suffering? When you catch up with them, you kill them quickly so that they aren’t in pain?

Too bad that isn’t what happens to bulls in bullfights.

Then I process the meat, sell the hide, and sometimes nail the head to the wall of my shop. OMG…am I really doing all of that? Nailing heads to walls, skinning them, I’m like a modern-day Ed Gein! Stop me before I kill again!

Bishop on August 19, 2010 at 4:19 PM

Good lord, you’re a drama queen. No one here is attacking hunting. Bullfighting is as far from hunting as it gets.

MadisonConservative on August 19, 2010 at 4:24 PM

Distinction without a difference.

ronsfi on August 19, 2010 at 4:20 PM

To the blind, such as yourself, sure.

MadisonConservative on August 19, 2010 at 4:24 PM

Good lord, you’re a drama queen. No one here is attacking hunting. Bullfighting is as far from hunting as it gets.

MadisonConservative on August 19, 2010 at 4:24 PM

Yes, my thought exactly.

Bishop, hunting is not the same thing. Get over it and relax. Unless you are a matador, you are not a monster.

carbon_footprint on August 19, 2010 at 4:25 PM

Michelle Obama must support bullfighting since she just vacationed in Spain.

faraway on August 19, 2010 at 4:26 PM

Nice quotes, there. What do you consider this, if not torture?

Apparently I’m a torturer; you should see the Moose I’ve tried to take down with even X-Cutter’s, this pic you’ve provided is mild.

I can’t believe I was raised to be the torturing sadist that I’ve become. I blame my Dad for bringing me hunting that first day way back when.

Bishop on August 19, 2010 at 4:27 PM

Bishop:Bird season is coming up,I AM A PARTRIDGE MONSTER!:)
canopfor on August 19, 2010 at 4:18 PM
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Wait. You mean to tell me that you are using a shotgun to maul birds, and if they aren’t dead from the gunshot you have to crush their necks by a rapid twisting motion? All so you can have a few fork-fulls of meat? You make me sick. Murderer.

Bishop on August 19, 2010 at 4:21 PM

Bishop:Oh yes,and I carry Slugs as added insurance!!:)

Piff,Left foot on left wing,right foot on right
wing,grab both feet and pull,then pollute the
nearest river with partridge blood and guts!!:)

canopfor on August 19, 2010 at 4:28 PM

When the Pope concluded his dream, the author to whom he related it did not make any comment on what had been said. But he did write that “I had never seen such a sad expression on the face of this man.” Considering that this was the same man who had related the horrors of his young manhood under Nazi occupation, the author’s remark shows the deep impact this dream had on the Pope.

If the Pontiff offered a commentary on his dream, Anton Gronowicz does not share it with the reader. But we are told that John Paul began to recite the prayer of St. Francis of Assisi. “Lord, make me an instrument of thy peace. Where there is hatred, let me sow love, where there is darkness, light, and where there is sadness, joy.”

Many years after Cardinal Wojtyla had his dream and had become Pope John Paul II, he made a pilgrimage to Assisi, the birthplace of St. Francis. In the Message of Reconciliation he delivered there, the Pontiff spoke of the Saint’s love for animal, as well as human, beings. And he likened that inclusive love to an anticipation of the Peaceable Kingdom, envisioned by the Prophet Isaiah, a world in which all God’s creatures will live in peace with each other.

The Pope also said that the “solicitous care, not only toward people but also toward animals and nature in general,” that St. Francis demonstrated is “a faithful echo of the love with which God in the beginning pronounced his ‘fiat,’ which brought them into existence.” And, the Pope added, “We, too, are called to a similar attitude.”

Some who read these remarks are surprised to find in them such strong support of God’s other creatures. They are surprised to hear the Pope refer to the lives of animals as a manifestation of God’s love: lives that deserve our “solicitous care.” But I was not surprised. By the time I came across a copy of the message he gave at Assisi, I had read God’s Broker and the lengthy account of the Pope’s dream. And I knew that if John Paul II had not wanted this very revealing dream to be published, it would never have appeared in print.

So in spite of the policies and pronouncements of “religious people” of the same or other persuasions, who try to denigrate the value and the importance of the lives of God’s other creatures, we know that John Paul II had a dream. And although people of lesser vision and lesser spiritual development have closed their hearts and their minds to the needs of other creatures, John Paul has given witness to a need for the “solicitous care, not only of people, but of animals.”

In this witness, the Pope is being true to the Gospel message in which Jesus also gave witness to the need for the solicitous care of all beings: “I tell you, whenever you refused to help one of these least important ones, you refused to help me.” (Matthew 25:45 TEV)

Tav on August 19, 2010 at 4:28 PM

Okay Bishop, don’t make me offer you a half-price plane fair to teach you a leason.

carbon_footprint on August 19, 2010 at 4:29 PM

Heh. Spaniards.

Tres Angelas on August 19, 2010 at 4:29 PM

Apparently I’m a torturer; you should see the Moose I’ve tried to take down with even X-Cutter’s, this pic you’ve provided is mild.

I can’t believe I was raised to be the torturing sadist that I’ve become. I blame my Dad for bringing me hunting that first day way back when.

Bishop on August 19, 2010 at 4:27 PM

You went full retard.

They stuck those in the bull one at a time, with plenty of time between each. They were dragging out the animal’s suffering as much as possible. Are you saying you take a shot at an animal, and as soon as you have another shot, you relax, have a smoke, and let the thing bleed out for a while before you shoot it again? And you shoot such that the arrow barely enters the body, causing as much bleeding as possible but not attempting to kill the creature?

Night and day, dude.

MadisonConservative on August 19, 2010 at 4:30 PM

Apparently I’m a torturer;

Bishop on August 19, 2010 at 4:27 PM

Bishop: Torture,oh gawd,I`m laughing my *ss off!!

Well,yes I track a Partrige,er Stalk it through
the Bush,but they are soooooooo sneaky,they can
flap their wings,SCARE THE H*LL OUT OF YOU,and
be down range 50 yards in a tree,in a blink of
an eye!!

There asking for it!:)

canopfor on August 19, 2010 at 4:32 PM

So wait…you try to kill them immediately? You try to avoid them suffering? When you catch up with them, you kill them quickly so that they aren’t in pain?

No, if I was overly concerned about their suffering in the first place I would shoot them using a firearm, but I like the silence and skill of bowhunting. Now that’s not to say that I’m immune to their suffering, but I slit their throat or blow their brains out because that is how I get them to stop moving so I can process their corpses for my own wicked use. You know, to hang their stuffed heads on my wall.

If I was overly concerned about their suffering I would track them until found, instead of reaching a bramble patch, giving up, and leaving them to their painful, slow death which I have done on more occasions than I care to count.

I also like to sit on a hillside with a rifle and shoot Prairie Dogs. I don’t process their meat, use their hides, hang their heads, or make sure they’re dead after being shot. Sometimes my aim might be faulty and I blow their legs off, I don’t mean to but it happens and they scurry around, sometimes crawling into a burro to die. Is this torture considering that I have no use for the animals I shoot, but do so merely for enjoyment?

Bishop on August 19, 2010 at 4:35 PM

So, this is how Cordoba was allowed to happen.

midlander on August 19, 2010 at 4:36 PM

Burrow….not burro. I crack myself up.

Bishop on August 19, 2010 at 4:36 PM

All this livestock talk made me realize I haven’t seen thomassur lately. Anybody?

Cindy Munford on August 19, 2010 at 4:36 PM

Is this torture considering that I have no use for the animals I shoot, but do so merely for enjoyment?

Bishop on August 19, 2010 at 4:35 PM

It does make you kind of an a-hole, actually.

Disturb the Universe on August 19, 2010 at 4:37 PM

Is this torture considering that I have no use for the animals I shoot, but do so merely for enjoyment?

Bishop on August 19, 2010 at 4:35 PM

It makes you a dick.

carbon_footprint on August 19, 2010 at 4:37 PM

I used to have a dairy farm and we always had bulls. We did artificial insemination but some girls will only settle for the real deal. And I have seen a bull charge, it is amazing how fast something that big can move. And they are strong. Really really strong. As in go through walls and fences strong.

Terrye on August 19, 2010 at 4:38 PM

People who enjoy this type of thing are demented. I don’t see how a decent person can defend it.

Rose on August 19, 2010 at 4:38 PM

canopfor on August 19, 2010 at 4:32 PM

Never tried Partridge, I’m a Pheasant man myself though not a very good hunter of them. I think I enjoy walking the fields with my dogs more than actual bagging my limit.

I hear Morning Dove’s are fun to hunt too, ever tried that?

Bishop on August 19, 2010 at 4:39 PM

canopfor on August 19, 2010 at 4:32 PM
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Never tried Partridge, I’m a Pheasant man myself though not a very good hunter of them. I think I enjoy walking the fields with my dogs more than actual bagging my limit.

I hear Morning Dove’s are fun to hunt too, ever tried that?

Bishop on August 19, 2010 at 4:39 PM

Bishop: I pack a lunch,thermas of tea,and walk old logging
roads,it takes a half hour roughly I think per mile,
I might get 10 birds per season!!

Love to get out,and enjoy the scenry,Morning Doves,
nope,but,when I was youger,Chichadees and Squirrels
were not safe,I don`t do that tho,anymore!!:)

canopfor on August 19, 2010 at 4:44 PM

Disturb the Universe on August 19, 2010 at 4:37 PM
carbon_footprint on August 19, 2010 at 4:37 PM

Ah, but here’s the secret: I am requested by rancher friends to do this because the P-Dogs breed so quickly and in such huge numbers that their burrows become unmanageable. They dig and dig and the cattle or horses of the ranchers step in the holes, breaking their legs and forcing the rancher to kill them on the spot.

These are the same animals who go to market to provide your steak and ground beef and milk, and the loss of animals means the rancher has to charge a higher price for his remaining product.

The P-Dogs also carry a host of diseases that readily pass to herd animals, again causing loss that directly affects you. The rabies alone is a serious malady. Now sometimes the ranchers use poison gas pumped into the burrows to kill the ‘dogs, or they smoke them out into a sort of corral where they are killed en-masse through various ghastly means.

Think about all of that the next time you munch a T-bone steak, all those gassed Prairie Dogs buried underground.

Bishop on August 19, 2010 at 4:45 PM

Crap,thats Chickadees !

I hear Morning Dove’s are fun to hunt too, ever tried that?

Bishop on August 19, 2010 at 4:39 PM

Bishop: Had to google the Dove,wow,55 MPH,thats moving!:)

canopfor on August 19, 2010 at 4:46 PM

I also like to sit on a hillside with a rifle and shoot Prairie Dogs. I don’t process their meat, use their hides, hang their heads, or make sure they’re dead after being shot. Sometimes my aim might be faulty and I blow their legs off, I don’t mean to but it happens and they scurry around, sometimes crawling into a burro to die. Is this torture considering that I have no use for the animals I shoot, but do so merely for enjoyment?

Bishop on August 19, 2010 at 4:35 PM

Assuming you mean to kill them, but for no purpose, it’s not torture. It’s killing animals for no reason other than it amuses you, which makes you a sick douche, IMO.

MadisonConservative on August 19, 2010 at 4:46 PM

Bishop on August 19, 2010 at 4:39 PM

If you’re baiting someone……well played, if not you have lost alot of respect today.

midlander on August 19, 2010 at 4:47 PM

I also like to sit on a hillside with a rifle and shoot Prairie Dogs.

Bishop on August 19, 2010 at 4:35 PM

Bishop: Ya got some posters in sweats and knotts,hehe!!

canopfor on August 19, 2010 at 4:49 PM

canopfor on August 19, 2010 at 4:44 PM

Animal heaven is populated by many a squirrel or chipmunk who met their fate under the sights of my .22 rifles.

And no I didn’t trot into the forest to retrieve their little bodies, they lay where they fell while I continued on my murderous way.

Bishop on August 19, 2010 at 4:49 PM

So Bishop, if I find a stray dog, debilitate it, beat it savagely, gore it and let it painfully bleed out, you’d be cool with it, right?

Good Solid B-Plus on August 19, 2010 at 4:55 PM

Assuming you mean to kill them, but for no purpose, it’s not torture. It’s killing animals for no reason other than it amuses you, which makes you a sick douche, IMO.
MadisonConservative on August 19, 2010 at 4:46 PM

So you are fine with the killing and “torturing” of those bulls because they are meatified after the show? They are being put to use, a purpose, after all.

As long as we’re all defining animal torture here, let me just say that confining a Polar Bear to a small pen in some zoo seems like torture. You go there with your family to view said bear must mean you are a sick douche for providing the funding to keep that bear in his little confine. Polar Bears weren’t designed by nature to swim in a kiddie pool and eat frozen fish, yet there he is, paddling around for your amusement.

But it is all in the defining, now isn’t it?

Bishop on August 19, 2010 at 4:55 PM

canopfor on August 19, 2010 at 4:44 PM
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Animal heaven is populated by many a squirrel or chipmunk who met their fate under the sights of my .22 rifles.

And no I didn’t trot into the forest to retrieve their little bodies, they lay where they fell while I continued on my murderous way.

Bishop on August 19, 2010 at 4:49 PM

Bishop: Yup,thats accurate,.22 long rifle Hornet Jacket,
with one in the middle,on impact,is like a silver
dollar,not much left!!

Okay,we better get back to on-topic,*wink-wink*!:)

canopfor on August 19, 2010 at 4:57 PM

Even when the Bull wins fair and square, they kill him. It’s a stupid sport.

Blake on August 19, 2010 at 4:57 PM

How about recreational fishing? I average a hooked gill every fishing trip or two. Am I a murderer?

Holger on August 19, 2010 at 4:59 PM

Where are you guys located that you can do all of that hunting? Sounds like what I do here in Oregon.
Just curious.

ORrighty on August 19, 2010 at 5:02 PM

It’s ok to be against zoos and bull fights.

Schadenfreude on August 19, 2010 at 5:02 PM

So Bishop, if I find a stray dog, debilitate it, beat it savagely, gore it and let it painfully bleed out, you’d be cool with it, right?
Good Solid B-Plus on August 19, 2010 at 4:55 PM

Well if you ate it afterward or made moccasins from its pelt, apparently you would be just fine in doing so. I guess.

I know you are wanting to pigeonhole me as some sort of unfeeling animal-sadist, I’m just trying to point out that there is something going on behind the scenes to provide you with leather goods, food, and dairy products, things that apparently you don’t want to acknowledge.

I have heard it too many times from the sensitive types, “How can I shoot that beautiful doe meandering through the glen”, usually by people wearing alligator-skin belts and chewing on a chicken leg whose previous owner was killed by having its head pulled off in a machine.

Do I enjoy hunting? Sure do, and I give myself every advantage, from high-powered weaponry to vision enhancement to sophisticated blood-tracking gear. Not exactly fair, is it? Then again I also know there are surgeons, good ones, who enjoy the sight of blood as they scalpel open their patients.

So yes I suppose on one level the traditional bullfights of Spain could be seen as barbaric, just as some will see my habit of blowing holes through deer barbaric. If that is so then there are millions of barbarians just like me.

Can’t we agree that there is a sliding scale here and we probably won’t agree on what is what? I won’t shed tears about that bull, you can hate me for that and call me a sick douchebag or whatever other slur you can think of if it makes you feel better, as others here have done.

Bishop on August 19, 2010 at 5:07 PM

Assuming you mean to kill them, but for no purpose, it’s not torture. It’s killing animals for no reason other than it amuses you, which makes you a sick douche, IMO.

MadisonConservative on August 19, 2010 at 4:46 PM

Its called varmint huntin’, and it preserves the natural order.

Many of the varmint’s natural predators have vacated the area and they are rodents after all that are harmful to man and livestock. No matter how pretty they look in the tourist brochures.

I do miss that part about living in the country. It makes for a better shot.

cozmo on August 19, 2010 at 5:09 PM

What an amazing display of raw power. An animal or that size launching itself that far in the air with relatively short legs!

It’s sad that the bull wasn’t able to continue his rampage longer. It would have been gratifying to watch him maul a bunch of lowlife blood-sport spectators. Now THAT would be my idea of first rate blood-sport!

FloatingRock on August 19, 2010 at 5:12 PM

Okay Bishop, just don’t pretend that you have any moral superiority over the guy who burns a burlap sack filled with stray cats.

Good Solid B-Plus on August 19, 2010 at 5:12 PM

Where are you guys located that you can do all of that hunting? Sounds like what I do here in Oregon.
Just curious.
ORrighty on August 19, 2010 at 5:02 PM

Minnesota, though I travel the states and Canada when I need to; bears and moose are on the lottery here and good luck getting one of those golden tickets.

Bishop on August 19, 2010 at 5:13 PM

Now THAT would be my idea of first rate blood-sport!

But in this case the victims chose to be there voluntarily; that’s the difference.

FloatingRock on August 19, 2010 at 5:14 PM

Well I am just waiting to see what Obama says.

Probably something about he’s neither for nor against bull fighting, but he’s always for BS.

Dhuka on August 19, 2010 at 5:14 PM

Bishop on August 19, 2010 at 4:35 PM

Buzzards gotta eat, same as the worms….

BigWyo on August 19, 2010 at 5:14 PM

Mourning (not morning) dove: hard to hit and absolutely delicious.

Tres Angelas on August 19, 2010 at 5:16 PM

Okay Bishop, just don’t pretend that you have any moral superiority over the guy who burns a burlap sack filled with stray cats.
Good Solid B-Plus on August 19, 2010 at 5:12 PM

Ah, well there you go, just don’t pretend that your next poultry dinner came from some chicken who didn’t spend his life packed into a barn with a million of his friends, artificially plumped with sweeteners, and later had his living head removed on a steel conveyor-rack.

It’s a bad world out there, isn’t it?

Bishop on August 19, 2010 at 5:17 PM

Its called varmint huntin’, and it preserves the natural order.

Many of the varmint’s natural predators have vacated the area and they are rodents after all that are harmful to man and livestock. No matter how pretty they look in the tourist brochures.

I do miss that part about living in the country. It makes for a better shot.

cozmo on August 19, 2010 at 5:09 PM

That’s understandable. My mom does that because otherwise they go after her garden. However, the way Bishop put it, he was doing it solely for his amusement, with no pretense of any benefit as a result of getting rid of them.

MadisonConservative on August 19, 2010 at 5:20 PM

friends, artificially plumped with sweeteners, and later had his living head removed on a steel conveyor-rack.

It’s a bad world out there, isn’t it?

Bishop on August 19, 2010 at 5:17 PM

And don’t forget about all the growth hormones. Though I think they ended the steroid use.

Used to be you could slop the hogs with the leftovers from the city schools (not any more)and take your eggs to the city grocery store for trade (milk too, but that was before my time), when I was doing it, the city folk would have to come to us for fresh milk)..Now, everything is processed on commercial farms. Progress, I guess.

cozmo on August 19, 2010 at 5:23 PM

speaking of bulls: The vetrinary class at Oklahoma state was visiting a breeding corral and the breeder had just let a cow into the corral with the bull. The bull was totally indifferent (the cow looked like pelosi). So, the instructor went over to the bull and stroked him up his forehead and between the horns with his hand. The bull swept his foor but still stood there. The instructor again rubbed the bull between his horns. The bull really kicked dirt but still stood there. Finally the instructor rubbed the bull again and he (the bull) took off and mounted the cow. The instructor then turned to the students and asked them what lesson they could learn from this. After a few seconds of silence, a cute coed raised her hand and said “I now know why some men are bald.”

Old Country Boy on August 19, 2010 at 5:25 PM

However, the way Bishop put it, he was doing it solely for his amusement, with no pretense of any benefit as a result of getting rid of them.

MadisonConservative on August 19, 2010 at 5:20 PM

Dude, even my hard head saw through the snark…and I can be really dense sometimes.

Varmint hunting was the only way I could justify owning an AR-15, and all that .223.

I did feel bad when I had to take down a dog, but the dog was killing dozens of chickens a day…just for fun.

cozmo on August 19, 2010 at 5:27 PM

MadisonConservative on August 19, 2010 at 5:20 PM

Why do you think I hunt, because I like the smelly, nasty, bloody job of processing the meat and tripe of a deer I just dragged through a field when I can buy venison at my local butcher and save myself the mess?

Bishop on August 19, 2010 at 5:30 PM

Dude, even my hard head saw through the snark…and I can be really dense sometimes.

cozmo on August 19, 2010 at 5:27 PM

The guy is from Minnesota. I never assume anything coming out of his mouth is sarcasm.

MadisonConservative on August 19, 2010 at 5:31 PM

Hey what’s with the ads in front of the feed? Would anyone really pay for these ads? When I see them I click, click away.

hestrold on August 19, 2010 at 5:31 PM

Why do you think I hunt, because I like the smelly, nasty, bloody job of processing the meat and tripe of a deer I just dragged through a field when I can buy venison at my local butcher and save myself the mess?

Bishop on August 19, 2010 at 5:30 PM

Cheaper, for one thing, particularly for the amount you get. Also, it’s good training for when you need that pitiful cardboard box you call a bunker.

MadisonConservative on August 19, 2010 at 5:32 PM

I got a million of ‘em:

In tiajuana (tia- jew- wan- ah) after a bull fight, two blue state dudes (crr6 and drywall) were in a fameous local restaurant. They noticed two well-to-do’s sitting at the next table having a delicious looking plate of huge oval steak like meat. They asked the waiter for the same thing, but were told that was by reservation only and they couldn’t have any at that time. They made reservations for the following bull fight weekend, and sure enough, showed up at that very same restaurant. Theyt asked the waiter for their reserved gourmet special. After a half hour of anticipation, the waiter showed up with two silver dollar sized steaks. The two were beside themselves, thinking they had been cheated. When they asked the waiter why the people last week had huge slabs of meat and they jut got two little bites; he told them them “sorry seniors, sometimes the bull, he wins.”

Old Country Boy on August 19, 2010 at 5:35 PM

Video: Metaphor of the day!

There comes a day, when after raising athletic bulls to chase you around, they do, what you’ve been raising them to do.

Speakup on August 19, 2010 at 5:36 PM

Why do you think I hunt, because I like the smelly, nasty, bloody job of processing the meat and tripe of a deer I just dragged through a field when I can buy venison at my local butcher and save myself the mess?

Bishop on August 19, 2010 at 5:30 PM

Hunting is fine. There is something that you are displaying in your comments in this tread that makes me and others think you have some sort of issue. I have always respected you and even considered you one of the best commentators here before today. Not sure what you are trying to prove or if you are just blind to the way your comments come across today. You were the one who mistakenly equaled hunting to bullfighting. No one else here brought that up, and you failed to realize that after several clarifications.

You failed to answer my question about dog fighting being similar to bullfighting. I think I know why. You love your dogs and you know not to go down that road because you can not fathom that fighting dogs is just as bad as bullfighting.

You mentioned shooting prairie dogs for fun a while back in a thread and I ignored it because I respect you. But this time, it wasn’t enough and you had to describe the joy of seeing his back legs shot off and crawling away and dying. No one has said that hunting is cruel; you were the one who assumed that. But there is something in your descriptions in previous comments in this thread that is sinister and paints you as one who might enjoy watching living things suffer. That is different and there are links to serial killers and boys who torture animals. It is a character defect and you have exposed your flaw here today to the dismay of myself and many others.

Sklee on August 19, 2010 at 5:38 PM

Then again, Bishop also thinks he’s going to run Bartertown with Master Blaster after The Quickening, so maybe I should take all this with a grain of salt.

Good Solid B-Plus on August 19, 2010 at 5:41 PM

Cheaper, for one thing, particularly for the amount you get. Also, it’s good training for when you need that pitiful cardboard box you call a bunker.
MadisonConservative on August 19, 2010 at 5:32 PM

This has been a rousing thread, though I’ve been called so many names I don’t know whether I should request that Ed change my screen name to “Murderous Douchebag” or “Bloody Sadist”.

As for the venison, it helps to be related to the butcher ;-)

As for my bunker, does yours have purple shag carpet and a Hendrix blacklight poster? Do you even have a bunker? Will I let you enter mine after the collapse? No, no and no. So shut it.

Bishop on August 19, 2010 at 5:48 PM

Good Solid B-Plus on August 19, 2010 at 5:41 PM

You’re forbidden from entering the bunker too. Good luck with the Ayatollah of Rockenrollah.

Bishop on August 19, 2010 at 5:50 PM

As for my bunker, does yours have purple shag carpet and a Hendrix blacklight poster? Do you even have a bunker? Will I let you enter mine after the collapse? No, no and no. So shut it.

Bishop on August 19, 2010 at 5:48 PM

Thanks for the laugh. I never thought I would need one after the Berlin wall fell. I am beginning the re-evaluate that position. A semi-self sustaining plot of land north of the Red River. Possibly in a blue state (fewer well armed common sense types per capita). Who knows, you may be running Barter town.

cozmo on August 19, 2010 at 5:53 PM

As for my bunker, does yours have purple shag carpet and a Hendrix blacklight poster? Do you even have a bunker? Will I let you enter mine after the collapse? No, no and no. So shut it.

Bishop on August 19, 2010 at 5:48 PM

I saw the “Sexy Firefighting Studs” calendar, dude. You got some ‘splainin to do.

MadisonConservative on August 19, 2010 at 5:54 PM

Who knows, you may be running Barter town.
cozmo on August 19, 2010 at 5:53 PM

You need a job after the collapse, you come and see me.

At the front gate there will a shriveled husk of a man chained to the wall, his only job is to give directions to visitors, he will point you to my palace.

His name is Madison Conservative, feel free to give him a thump on the head if he isn’t properly deferential.

Bishop on August 19, 2010 at 6:00 PM

BTW: GREAT camera work. Three seconds of action, three minutes of nothing, thrown in with random butts.

ChipDWood on August 19, 2010 at 6:33 PM

I think I’ll just report my comment from the original thread. It still seems apropos.

I don’t buy the “cruel” line. In the end, it’s a dumb animal that without bullfighting would either have never been born, or been destined for the dinner plate. How is it cruel to allow it to fight for it’s life rather than be lead to the slaughter?

Bullfighting is extraordinarily dangerous for all involved. Matadors and Toreros are injured and/or killed all the time. Think about it: they are facing down a full sized Bull with nothing more than a scrap of cloth and some sharpened sticks.

Also, it should be noted that not all styles of Bullfighting are fatal to the Bull. “Recortes” bullfighting and American freestyle bullfighting both involve a person or team simply dodging the bull over a set period of time in as fancy a manner as possible. The bull is unharmed, although the human participants are often injured.

I think we just have too many people that have been insulated from any real danger for too long. Bullfighting isn’t any more or less cruel than anything that goes on in the wild. Grow up people.

wearyman on August 19, 2010 at 7:09 PM

Ugh. Should have been rePOST my comment. Argh.

wearyman on August 19, 2010 at 7:10 PM

The Spaniards in the audience should ask themselves why the bull hates them. And then they should be tolerant of the bull trying to kill them.

Pervygrin on August 19, 2010 at 7:17 PM

wearyman on August 19, 2010 at 7:09 PM

Totally agree. I’ve been on bow hunts that were far more barbarous than anything I’ve ever seen in a bull ring.

Most people who call it ‘barbaric’ have no concept of how incredibly dangerous a Mirua bull is in this tight of a space. Even with a gun you would be seriously risking your life.

Oh and yes contrary to some opinions, when the toreros are gored or killed the bull goes off to the stud farm. That is the point of fighting it in the first place: to see which one is tough as nails and thus prime breeding material and which one will be eaten at the feast. (which again, happens after every bullfight)

MannyT-vA on August 19, 2010 at 8:42 PM

Not only is bull fighting barbaric, those who would glorify it have some serious issues. How can a decent person get any pleasure out of the torture death of an animal? Especially for sport. I really don’t care how “brave” these barbaric men are. They are still lowlife.

Rose on August 19, 2010 at 8:45 PM

Hey, isn’t that Pelosi in the audience, running for her political life?

If only.

JimC on August 19, 2010 at 11:21 PM

Good for the bull. Payback is sweet. Seriously, the bull was just trying to get away from its tormentors. What kind of people take pleasure in torturing animals? It’s despicable.

NNtrancer on August 19, 2010 at 11:31 PM

For all you sensitive types:

Rats in the hen house with .22 shot shells (rat shot). Iron sights and a flashlight. A hit bird cancels the fun for a week. OTOH all the rat bodies feed other critters. And, surprise, only rats die of “lead poisoning”. A short evening of fun for a country boy.

Then you sight in the .22 for 100yd. for crow. And learn stalking and field craft. 1/4 is pretty good. Labor Day is dove time; shotgun time. Expensive shells for a boy; not to waste. After first frost, squirrel and rabbit are game of choice. But first, butcher hogs. .22 for squirrel and 12 ga. for buns. Breakfast and lunch meat. A weekend chasing ‘coon. Listen to the dogs and old folks yarns. Feb. or so, butcher a beef. Gotta grain them first.

Those of tender aspect, go hungry. Accuracy allows time for other pursuits. Bishop, you rule. Hats off to bow hunters.

Caststeel on August 20, 2010 at 2:28 AM

I love a good steak, hamburger, etc, but when it comes to bullfighting, rodeos or the running of the bulls, I tend to root for the cow! just because….

Yakko77 on August 20, 2010 at 3:03 AM

I would also like to tip my hat to Mr. Bishop in this thread. I’m in Northern Alabama and would like to go hunting with you if you ever happen to be in the area. Mostly because I need to learn to do it properly, and I really don’t care what anyone in here thinks of that.

runawayyyy on August 20, 2010 at 12:44 PM

“The injured acted stupidly”.

RalphyBoy on August 21, 2010 at 2:47 PM

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