Pew poll: 18% think Obama is a Muslim

posted at 9:06 pm on August 19, 2010 by Allahpundit

My first reaction whenever this question is polled is commiseration with The One, because, believe it or not, there is something worse election-wise for an American politician to be than Muslim. Anyway, the raw data:

It’s tempting to blame the change on the uproar over the Ground Zero mosque, but the poll was concluded on August 5 and that story didn’t break big until Obama weighed in on it last week, on August 13. DrewM is surely right that the uptick here is due in part to an unpopular president being lumped in with an unpopular group, but I think it’s broader than that. Note that the change in the number of those who no longer say O is a Christian is twice as large as the number who insist he’s a Muslim; that’s evidence, I think, of Americans feeling so alienated by his policies that they’ve concluded he must be from a different planet culturally — if not Muslim, then at least certainly not Christian. In other words, whatever group he’s in, it ain’t theirs. (Pew missed a big opportunity here in not polling the atheism question, as I bet you’d see an uptick in that too.) As for why he’s so often accused of being Muslim, the default lefty explanation is of course racism but I think it’s more a combination of his middle name, his background growing up in Indonesia, and his attempt to win over Muslim public opinion with his Cairo speech last year. And all of that gets compounded by soundbites that are taken out of context or cleverly edited to make it sound like he’s making admissions about his “true faith.” Just last week a commenter e-mailed claiming that Obama had once told Stephanopoulos that he was a Muslim and I had to send him the link to this post from two years ago to set him right.

It’s all very lame and obnoxious, especially given the testimony from pastors that Obama takes his Christian faith seriously, but much like the Birther thing, there’s virtually nothing you can say to convince someone who’s sure that O is what he thinks he is. I recommend re-reading Karl’s post from earlier this month on the phenomenon of polling Birthers, as it holds plenty of applicable wisdom in this case too. Essentially, when polling people who dislike candidate X, the specifics of the questions are almost irrelevant. As long as they’re negatively inclined — e.g., “Is Obama a werewolf?” — you’ll get a certain core percentage willing to say yes. The news in this poll is that as much as 18 percent think being a Muslim is inherently negative. But as I said above, that’s also true (if not more true) of atheism. Via Mediaite, here’s KP on the issue:


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He certainly is not Christian.
He and his ex pastor are followers of Liberation Theology, which is Marxist thus not Christian. They can call themselves
Christians all day that doesn’t make them one. Marxism and
and Christianity are at opposite ends of the spectrum.

lilium on August 20, 2010 at 8:10 AM

BTW, what brand of Christianity is Rev. Wright’s church of “what’s happening now”.

How anyone with two brain cells to rub together on Sunday morning, could sit through that clown’s pontificating, I’ll never know.

Since when is whining, racial grievance mongering and cussing a pathyway to the promised land?

Maybe Chicago Heaven, but not one where you’ll find Jesus.

NoDonkey on August 20, 2010 at 8:11 AM

He and his ex pastor are followers of Liberation Theology, which is Marxist thus not Christian. They can call themselves
Christians all day that doesn’t make them one.

lilium on August 20, 2010 at 8:10 AM

Well to be fair, “Reverend” Wright did once say that his acolyte Barry Obama was a “Christian” — but he admitted that that word means something very different to them than what it means to the rest of us.

AZCoyote on August 20, 2010 at 8:16 AM

Note that the change in the number of those who no longer say O is a Christian is twice as large as the number who insist he’s a Muslim; that’s evidence, I think, of Americans feeling so alienated by his policies that they’ve concluded he must be from a different planet culturally — if not Muslim, then at least certainly not Christian.

Allah

First, note that Drudge is linked to an Al-Time online article which puts the number who think Obama is a Muslim at 24%.

Whatever. The real story is the number who now recognize that he’s not a Christian, and it has nothing to do with hating his policies and worldview. No one knew him before (except us) and voters have now had 21 months to observe Obama since the election.

He has appeared in a Christian church exactly once, to the best of my knowledge. And his sycophant press would hardly allow him to attend worship service publicly without a declaration that he is the Risen Lord, I don’t think I have missed anything.

Attending worship service is still an element of Christianity, unless Obama has canceled that part, so this might account for the dramatic shift in perception. Note that his disciples-by-pigment, the black voters, also show a less than 50% number on whether they believe The One is a Christian, and support him at over 90%. So this isn’t “I hate Obama” fallout. Just reality.

Jaibones on August 20, 2010 at 8:21 AM

Socialists worship government. That’s their religion.

rhombus on August 20, 2010 at 8:22 AM

A man who … based his choice to attend Wright’s hate-church … on the belief that it had the best potential for him to gain an audience as a community organizer, DEFINITELY takes his faith seriously.

Alden Pyle on August 20, 2010 at 7:18 AM

Bing.

Jaibones on August 20, 2010 at 8:24 AM

Listen.

If Obama says he’s a Christian, it’s good enough for me.

He’s a great speaker and he’s always been truthful with the American people.

Sidenote – anyone else notice how much Hot Air sucks these days? There are tons of more relevant pieces of evidence about Obama’s inclinations and beliefs than the that stupid exchange with Stepie noted here and quickly knocked down.

How is this any different than the headline style of the AP? “18% believe wrongly…”

I’m just sayin’ – piss poor analysis…as usual.

Dorvillian on August 20, 2010 at 8:39 AM

By their fruits ye shall know them.

Mojave Mark on August 20, 2010 at 8:40 AM

What I find most amusing about this is the stronger-than-usual insistence on telling us that such-and-such-an-idea is WRONG. How often do you find headlines like “18 Percent Believe Incorrectly That [insert proposition here]“?

Whether Obama is “really” a Muslim or not, it seems that some people in the media really, really don’t want other people getting the idea that Obama might be a Muslim and not a Christian. Why? Our “betters” don’t seem to care what we think, and yet they rush to correct us on this particular point. Why is that? They’ll just laugh at us if we say we believe in flying saucers and little green men, but they don’t seem to be laughing about the “Obama is a Muslim” idea. Why not?

Aitch748 on August 20, 2010 at 8:53 AM

As for why he’s so often accused of being Muslim, the default lefty explanation is of course racism but I think it’s more a combination of his middle name, his background growing up in Indonesia, and his attempt to win over Muslim public opinion with his Cairo speech last year.

You can add to that: his insistence on a cross being covered up so it was not a backdrop to a speech, using our tax dollars to send an imam (who is trying to build a victory mosque) around the world to suck up to moslems, etc. There are plenty of current examples of incidents that give people pause.

Vashta.Nerada on August 20, 2010 at 9:01 AM

Hate is too powerful an emotion to waste on inconsequential people.

Extrafishy on August 20, 2010 at 9:12 AM

This hand-wringing over a dumb poll question is itself pretty silly. More Americans say they believe in ghosts and reincarnation than believe the President is Muslim. In other words, Americans largely take him at his word that he is a Christian of sorts, despite the fact that he does not make any effort to show evidence that he is, and despite the fact that, under Islamic law, he is Muslim whether he chooses to be or not. It’s a twisty turny road.

Regardless, he’s a lousy president who has well and truly screwed up our economy. On that, far more Americans agree.

MTF on August 20, 2010 at 9:26 AM

It doesn’t really help that his spiritual mentor is a “former” muslim who is buddies with Farrakhan or his affinity for the poor oppressed Palestinians. Plus I thought if you were born into the faith because your father is in the faith that well… you are a muslim. So doesn’t that make him a muslim by default, even if he is a non-practicing appostate?

crashland on August 20, 2010 at 9:27 AM

I don’t know if this man is a Muslim or not; however, I am convinced that the man is a Racist and a Marxist. These two dynamics of this mans character are clearly in plain sight. In fact, this mans hatred of white people and clear visions of black people being victims of the evil white man have brought about feelings in my spirit that I haven’t experienced in my 56 years of life until now. History is history, the future is the future, and the now is the now… I don’t hate Germans for what happened before my time. It would seem that loads of black people have very strong hatred for other races and see Obama’s presidency as “our turn” or something, as if Obama represents them instead of all Americans.

I’m really disgusted with what I’m witnessing. Silly me, I thought we lived in an era where a person was judged by their character rather than by the color of their skin.

Keemo on August 20, 2010 at 9:40 AM

Are those the same 18% who can’t find Iraq on a map and don’t know who George Washington is?

They’re called stupid people, and they make up a disturbing chunk of the population of every western country.

This ain’t news.

Dave Rywall on August 20, 2010 at 9:53 AM

I don’t know if this man is a Muslim or not; however, I am convinced that the man is a Racist and a Marxist. These two dynamics of this mans character are clearly in plain sight. In fact, this mans hatred of white people and clear visions of black people being victims of the evil white man have brought about feelings in my spirit that I haven’t experienced in my 56 years of life until now. History is history, the future is the future, and the now is the now… I don’t hate Germans for what happened before my time. It would seem that loads of black people have very strong hatred for other races and see Obama’s presidency as “our turn” or something, as if Obama represents them instead of all Americans.

I’m really disgusted with what I’m witnessing. Silly me, I thought we lived in an era where a person was judged by their character rather than by the color of their skin.

Keemo on August 20, 2010 at 9:40 AM
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As retarded as it is to hold people responsible for the actions of their ancestors, it happens.

Chinese folks hate Japan (hell, most of Asia hates Japan)
Israelis hate Palestinians and vice versa
etc
etc

It’s all the parents’ fault for perpetuating the hate.

Dave Rywall on August 20, 2010 at 9:57 AM

He certainly is not Christian.
He and his ex pastor are followers of Liberation Theology, which is Marxist thus not Christian. They can call themselves
Christians all day that doesn’t make them one. Marxism and
and Christianity are at opposite ends of the spectrum.

lilium on August 20, 2010 at 8:10 AM
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Please explain to the class the marxist policies enacted by or currently being pursued by Obama.

Dave Rywall on August 20, 2010 at 9:59 AM

“18% think Obama is a Muslim”

Well thats what will happen when you live in Kenya and pray five times a day to the muslim allah. Plus it doesn’t help when you cover up Jesus at a speach. There is SO much PROOF out there that obama hussein is NOT a Christian.

“no matter what we once were, we are no longer a Christian nation”
-President Hussein

JihadKiller1s1k on August 20, 2010 at 10:18 AM

“18% think Obama is a Muslim”

Well thats what will happen when you live in Kenya and pray five times a day to the muslim allah. Plus it doesn’t help when you cover up Jesus at a speach. There is SO much PROOF out there that obama hussein is NOT a Christian.

“no matter what we once were, we are no longer a Christian nation”
-President Hussein

JihadKiller1s1k on August 20, 2010 at 10:18 AM
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ha ha ha 5 times a day ha ha ha ha
I guess he sneaks into broom closets and stuff because nobody has ever seen him do it
so moronic

Dave Rywall on August 20, 2010 at 10:31 AM

Please explain to the class the marxist policies enacted by or currently being pursued by Obama.

For our hapless and clueless neighbor from the great white waste :

From each according to his ability, to each according to his need

runner on August 20, 2010 at 10:32 AM

Please explain to the class the marxist policies enacted by or currently being pursued by Obama.

For our hapless and clueless neighbor from the great white waste :

From each according to his ability, to each according to his need

runner on August 20, 2010 at 10:32 AM
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ha ha such baseless tripe

Dave Rywall on August 20, 2010 at 10:41 AM

Is Obama Muslim? Who knows. Part of the problem may be the pictures floating around of him dressed in local attire, the “my Muslim faith” Freudian slip with Stephanoupoulous, his Muslim father and step-father and upbringing in a predominantly Muslim country in his formative years, and his statement in a NYT interview that “the Muslim call to prayer is the most beautiful sound in the world”.

Now, each taken separately are inconsequential. Taken together they paint a picture of a man who MAY be hiding his actual faith for political gain. Given the above facts, you can’t really blame people for wondering. Personally, I think the entire reason he won’t release his long-form birth certificate is that it lists his father’s religion.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuXxtg4M_z8&p=D171A8F07C8827B4&playnext=1&index=30

ElvenPhoenix on August 20, 2010 at 10:44 AM

I could care less if he were green and had antennas and worshiped flying spaghetti, he’s still not a good president.

scalleywag on August 20, 2010 at 10:53 AM

Please explain to the class the marxist policies enacted by or currently being pursued by Obama.

Dave Rywall on August 20, 2010 at 9:59 AM

Are you the guy in the corner wearing the big cone on your head?
Having said that, I said nothing about policy. I said he is not a Christian. That includes his buddy Michael Pfleger who is a priest.

lilium on August 20, 2010 at 10:59 AM

It’s all very lame and obnoxious, especially given the testimony from pastors that Obama takes his Christian faith seriously…

Well, the problem is I told take his “pastors” seriously. If Wright’s “church” is his understanding of Christianity, I doubt he is a Christian, because Wright shows no sign of genuine faith in (or even understanding of the message of) Christ.

That said, I see no indications that he is Muslim, either. Whether he calls himself a Christian or a Muslim, the devout adherents of each faith would call him faithless, or at best, an apostate. I see little indication that faith in any God is of much importance to him.

Beo on August 20, 2010 at 11:04 AM

After years of hearing jokes about people having a “personal relationship with Jesus Christ,” we are now told that we should believe that Obama has an unseen “personal relationship with Jesus Christ.” What a joke.
Frankly, this man wears religion like a suit, different religions for different occasions. Sort of a “religious camelion.” Quite cynical, if you ask me. He’s an agnostic.

J_Crater on August 20, 2010 at 11:04 AM

It’s not his faith that makes people think that way, it’s what he does. Actions speak louder than words.

jdawg on August 20, 2010 at 11:04 AM

Wow.

told don’t

Epic typing fail.

Beo on August 20, 2010 at 11:04 AM

Obama is primarily a Pagan Narcissist.

But is he a Muslim?

If he’s not a radical Muslim, he sure is doing a good imitation of one, complete with a constant ‘destroy America’ campaign.

Obama has already outdone the 9/11 hijackers, who managed to screw up the lives of only 3000 families and do only $40 billion dollars of damage to the country!!

If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, …it’s a duck!!!

landlines on August 20, 2010 at 11:05 AM

In an interview he said “my Muslim faith” and it was so natural to him that he did not even notice that he had done it. Then we heard about his one on one with the Egyptian FM who was quoted on TV as saying that Obama told him he was a Muslim and that he is pushing the Islamic agenda. Then you look at his actions, its all there… I do not think he is a Muslim, I know he is one.

TrueBrit on August 20, 2010 at 11:10 AM

Still waiting for those major media documentaries on the ‘religion’ known as Black Liberation Theology. Back during the last Republican primary, coincidentally we had a documentary on Mormonism, but nada on BLT.

Waiting….

slickwillie2001 on August 20, 2010 at 11:17 AM

Just like Obama wants to keep the birther meme going by refusing to clear up the issue, Obama loves the “Obama is a Muslim” thing as well. They are useful in painting his opponents as cranks and crackpots.

Perhaps if Barack and Michelle joined a church in Washington or even bothered to attend services on Sunday now and then, fewer folks would be confused or have doubts about his religious affiliation.

The Obamas made a point about how they didn’t want their presence to intrude or inconvenience congregants. Of course based on how the Secret Service tied up traffic in LA when he stopped in for a fundraiser, other people’s inconvenience is less important than Barack Obama’s political fortunes.

rokemronnie on August 20, 2010 at 11:29 AM

It is clear that Obama only joined a church in Chicago because he was told that he would not be successful in the black community if he were anything other than a Christian. It is clear he is not anything other than a religious opportunist vis-a-vis Christianity. Whether he is an athiest or a Muslim is up for debate. He probably is an athiest, but hates whites, Americans, and Christians so much he deeply sympathizes with Islam, but probably considers them as stupid as he considers Christians. Of course, his deepest affection is with Marxism as an expression of his deep hatred.

federale86 on August 20, 2010 at 11:34 AM

Are you the guy in the corner wearing the big cone on your head?
Having said that, I said nothing about policy. I said he is not a Christian. That includes his buddy Michael Pfleger who is a priest.

lilium on August 20, 2010 at 10:59 AM
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Who the f do you think you are judging the Christian-ness of another human being?

Whatever stupid checklist you have in your little head is meaningless.

Dave Rywall on August 20, 2010 at 11:36 AM

Perhaps if Barack and Michelle joined a church in Washington or even bothered to attend services on Sunday now and then, fewer folks would be confused or have doubts about his religious affiliation.

rokemronnie on August 20, 2010 at 11:29 AM

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In order to qualify as a Christian, you have to go to church?

How amazingly stupid.

Dave Rywall on August 20, 2010 at 11:43 AM

Those who tart Obama up as muslim waste the effort they could expend persuading others of something that seems much more plausible, and probably much more persuasive to the Americans in general. The simple truth seems bad enough, that Obama likes Islam. Against such an accusation there seems to be, for Obama, no easy, politic defense. It would be interesting to see Obama on camera, when an interviewer asks, “Mr. President, I think intelligent people know you’re not muslim. My question is different: Do you like Islam?”

I think that would be an awkward question for Obama. Could he reply, “Yes, I like Islam”? Could he reply, “No, I don’t like Islam”? I think he would try to come down in the middle, and would embarrass himself in the attempt.

Kralizec on August 20, 2010 at 11:46 AM

The simple truth seems bad enough, that Obama likes Islam.

Kralizec on August 20, 2010 at 11:46 AM

I think that’s the whole point.

Few believe he is a practicing Muslim in private. It’s hard to pray 5 times a day to any God, if you believe yourself to be “the One.” And if he practiced Halal he couldn’t eat all the expensive delicacies his Highness has become accustomed to.

But when people like me think he is a MUSLIM IN AT HEART, it is like Catholics or Jews who were raised in those faiths and no longer practice, but have it in their heart. They are partial to it and will defend it. Put it above other faiths. Defend all forms of Islam, including understanding the motivation of the radicals and and excusing them. Because we are just as bad.

People can mock what I believe all they want. I hope I am wrong. But Obama does not act or speak like a man who has turned his back or his heart to the faith of his father and step father or the Koran passages he memorized as a child.

When I hear him say that the sound of Church bells are o”ne of the prettiest sound on Earth,” like he said of the Muslim call to prayer, then we can talk.

It is what is in his heart. And if it is true, then he should be honest about it. And he shouldn’t lump all muslims in with the good and peaceful moderate Muslims of the world who do not abide by some of the actual dictates of Islam and the Koran. They just want to love God and neighbor. Moderates who are threatened or coerced into being quiet against the radicals.

There are radicals and they are the vocal ones and the moving force in modern day Islam.

And Obama is friendly to these radicals in his actions (or inactions) and in his words.

Elisa on August 20, 2010 at 12:09 PM

I think people say he’s Muslim maybe because he is.

johnnyU on August 20, 2010 at 12:13 PM

And Obama is friendly to these radicals in his actions (or inactions) and in his words.

Elisa on August 20, 2010 at 12:09 PM
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ha ha ha this is so amazingly stupid!

Dave Rywall on August 20, 2010 at 12:34 PM

I don’t care if he’s muslim/Christian/Zoroastroist/atheist/Buddhist/Gaian.

I do care that it’s obvious he hates America.

SouthernGent on August 19, 2010 at 9:13 PM

I agree. I don’t care about what religion the candidate or politican belongs to. I wish people would stop focusing on the candidate’s faith and start focusing on his fruits.

And by his fruits, Obama isn’t honest. He isn’t honest about his faith, his life or what he intends to do for America.

One thing to remember, Reagan hardly ever went to church, so public display of religion is not a good gauge. In Reagan’s case, he said it interfered with other people too much for him.

tarpon on August 20, 2010 at 8:04 AM

Good point to keep in mind. Attendance at a chapel, church, synagogue or temple doesn’t tell me much about a person’s faith or religosity.

I know plenty of good righteous people who don’t go to a building to worship. On the other hand, I know people who attend a religious service faithfully every week who, I consider, not to be the best representatives of their faith.

It’s not his religion. IT’S HIS AUTHENTICITY.

petefrt on August 19, 2010 at 10:08 PM

Bingo! This is the essential issue. The problem with O is not only do people not know what faith he is…but they don’t know how authentic he is with the faith that he professes to belong to.

I can tell how authentic Huckabee, Palin and Romney are about their faith by their words and actions

But when it comes to Obama, I’m in the dark about Obama. I just can’t tell what faith he belongs to and how authentic that faith is.

Conservative Samizdat on August 20, 2010 at 12:36 PM

The matter of attending Church can’t be blown off so easily. The NT is clear that a regenerate Christian has a duty to fellowship with the Saints. This includes the corporate act of communion/Lord’s table, singing hymns and staying on top of who may need assistance from the congregation. This is what we call Church. In the bible “church” is the congregation not a building. Ephesians, Hebrews and 1 Cor. spell this out distinctly. It is not about what church can do for you or what you get fro it but rather what you can do for the Church. It is the type of fruit Jesus says we should expect to see from a truely regenerate Christian.

tommyboy on August 20, 2010 at 12:57 PM

At the rate obama expertly and deliberately creates constant chaos and confusion, throwing dung on every American like a caged animal who missed his supper, his termite-demons in all the regulatory and czar’s offices can write, unmolested by anyone looking over their shoulders, the health care and financial reform bills which nobody read, nor knows if they were just pages full of meaningless words. They are now being “legislated” by obama’s shadow government.

And one of the things that the chaos has wrought that has galled me, is that so many usually sharp thinkers became melon-heads that have been on the vine too long, as they took pot-shots at the deliberately easy, shiny target obama dangled.

I’M TALKING ABOUT NASA.

WHY DOES ANYONE BELIEVE AND ACCEPT THAT THIS AGENCY, WHICH IS THE FOUNTAINHEAD OF AMERICAN EXCEPTIONALISM, TECHNOLOGY FOR WAR, PEACE AND UNITED STATES SECURITY, HAS MERELY BEEN TURNED INTO A MUSLIM OUTREACH CENTER?????

The fact that obama could unilaterally take over NASA is inconceivable, yet there has been nary a peep. The only sound I’ve heard from conservatives is smug ridicule, “Oh, right, now we’ve got to use NASA to make muslims feel good about themselves. Thanks, obama.”

How about something more like this:

“WE DON’T BELIEVE FOR ONE SECOND YOUR INSULTING, UNCONSTITUTIONAL STORY ABOUT TAKING OVER NASA TO MAKE MUZZIES FEEL GOOD.

How about:

WE WANT TO SEE WHAT, WHERE AND TO WHOM THE BUDGET FOR NASA IS GOING.

WE WANT TO SEE WHAT, WHERE AND TO WHOM INFORMATION ON OUR TECHNOLOGY IS GOING.

WE WANT TO SEE WHAT, WHERE AND TO WHOM THE MONEY THAT WAS TO BE USED TO KEEP US IN SPACE IS GOING NOW THAT YOU HAVE GROUNDED THE ENTIRE SPACE PROGRAM.

HOW IN THE NAME OF GOD DID ANYONE BELIEVE, PARROT, MAKE FUN OF AND LET OBAMA GET AWAY WITH “THIS WAS JUST A FEEL-GOOD MOVE FOR THE MUZZIES”????

I can just see obama sneering at how quickly we suckers swallowed the bait – hook, line and sinker. I can hear him say, “Those rubes can’t resist an easy target. My cover story makes no sense, but they’ll fall all over themselves to try to show how smart they are just to insult me. Dummies.”

How do we know Obama isn’t busy transferring NASA’s entire budget and technology to Islam?

Do we think he intended to take over NASA for the muslims, only to waste it’s power and might on “self-esteem” kindergarten exercises???

Does anyone else wonder if missile building and guidance technology isn’t NUMBER ONE ON THESE THIRD-WORLD-SEVENTH-CENTURY-SAVAGES LIST??????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wake up, melon heads! NASA has been stolen from us, and given to the muzzies. And as usual, obama’s twist of the knife in our back has us footing the bill.

And we will pay for it in more many more ways than one.

tigerlily on August 20, 2010 at 1:14 PM

What is the difference between Islam and Louis Farrakhan’s “Nation of Islam”? I know there is a difference but I’m not exactly sure what it is…
Fallon on August 19, 2010 at 11:23 PM

Don’t count the number of prayers per day and types of food allowed; that’s irrelevant.

Nation of Islam and Trinity Church were founded at the same time, in the same place, and by the same people. They are all based on Black Liberation Theology. And all the “Islamic” and “Christian” references are absolutely nothing but window dressing.

To true Muslims, hatred of America is merely a means to an end. Al Qaida is not a “sect” of Islam; it’s more like a strategic command organization which happens to target one country. They have a similar organization for Israel, one for China, England, India, etc, etc….

But Black Liberation Theology is different. Hatred of America isn’t just a means to an end, it is the sole focus of their belief system. Destruction of “Evil, Slave-Mongering White America” is their only true driving goal.

That’s why so many liberals glommed onto Obama initially. What they see as fearlessness is really just nonchalance. Sure latte liberals want Communism; but they could never quite figure out how to get from here to there without losing their wonderful standard of living. Obama is slashing and burning like he knows the secret endgame to a nonviolent transition from Evil Capitalism to the long-dreamed-of Worker’s Paradise.

What the latte liberals don’t understand is that Barak Hussein Obama doesn’t HAVE an endagame. Black Liberation Theology strategically focuses on the destruction of Evil White America. What happens after that blessed day, they leave entirely in the hands of God.

After that point, Nation of Islam and Trinity theologists suddenly stop talking brass tacks and just devolve into a lot of gibberish about “giant mother wheel spaceships” and “chickens coming home to roost.” That’s the fundamental miracle of Black Liberation Theology: that once the White Devil has been struck down, Paradise happens. And absolutely nothing else matters.

logis on August 20, 2010 at 1:18 PM

tigerlily on August 20, 2010 at 1:14 PM
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share that glue you’re sniffing

and your disgusting racism is noted

go back to the sewer you crawled out of

Dave Rywall on August 20, 2010 at 1:24 PM

go back to the sewer you crawled out of

Dave Rywall on August 20, 2010 at 1:24 PM

Take your own advice. No one takes you seriously. You’re like a circus clown. You imagine yourself to be the center of attention, but Dave… we’re not laughing with you, we’re laughing at you!

sharrukin on August 20, 2010 at 1:36 PM

Elisa on August 20, 2010 at 12:09 PM

You’ve made an important distinction that is spot-on.

obama doesn’t practice Islam externally – that wouldn’t do for the “president” of the U.S.A., and besides, he is too lazy for all that.

BUT, he does love, cherish, sympathize with and carry Islam in his heart. Anyone who is even a so-so judge of character and actions can see it on obama a mile away.

tigerlily on August 20, 2010 at 2:57 PM

Dave Rywall on August 20, 2010 at 1:24 PM

I’m so sorry, my little man, but I haven’t the time, nor the least inclination, to give you the attention you so desperately crave, nor to engage your angry, dim wits.

tigerlily on August 20, 2010 at 3:01 PM

Nation of Islam and Trinity Church were founded at the same time, in the same place, and by the same people. They are all based on Black Liberation Theology. And all the “Islamic” and “Christian” references are absolutely nothing but window dressing.

logis on August 20, 2010 at 1:18 PM

Thanks for such an informative post.

I was unaware of this genesis. It makes perfect sense now about Rev. Wright being an “ex-muslim” and his closerthanthis friendship with Farrahkan.

The more one finds out about Black Liberation Theology, and it’s doctrine of racial hatred, and at it’s core hatred of God Himself, the more one wonders what further damage the demons that swirl in obama’s head from 20+ years as a faithful follower of this cult will be doing…..How did we let such a man into the highest most powerful Office in the world? Yikes, Yikes, Yikes. The worst is yet to come.

tigerlily on August 20, 2010 at 3:11 PM

The behind the headlines purpose of this “Is He a Muslim?” excercise by the liberal media is to try to brand anyone that says anything negative about Obama as a right-wing, kook.

Do not question or criticize the Obama. If you do, you are bad, bad, crazy, nuts. You don’t like Obamacare, well, then you are as crazy as those Birthers and people calling him a Muslim!
Do not criticize the One.

(I wish someone would bring up Obama’s grades and classes at the Universities he attended, plus reveal his SAT and LSAT scores.)

albill on August 20, 2010 at 5:26 PM

The matter of attending Church can’t be blown off so easily. The NT is clear that a regenerate Christian has a duty to fellowship with the Saints. This includes the corporate act of communion/Lord’s table, singing hymns and staying on top of who may need assistance from the congregation. This is what we call Church. In the bible “church” is the congregation not a building. Ephesians, Hebrews and 1 Cor. spell this out distinctly. It is not about what church can do for you or what you get fro it but rather what you can do for the Church. It is the type of fruit Jesus says we should expect to see from a truely regenerate Christian.

tommyboy on August 20, 2010 at 12:57 PM

I agree with you that Church attendance is necessary. However, the fact that someone does attend a church and how frequently one attends doesn’t tell me much about a person and how dedicated they are to their faith.

They can perform all the required things and go to the necessary places of worship but their hearts may not be in the right place.

That’s why Jesus called the Scribes and Pharisees “whited sepulchres” (Matthew 23:27) because they professed follow the Jewish law and attend the local synagogue but their heart was not in the right place.

Conservative Samizdat on August 20, 2010 at 5:53 PM

I believe that he is a luciferian also known as humanists. He also taught the Alinsky method who dedicated his book to lucifer.

THE LUCIFERIAN DOCTRINE–must see video for those who have not studied luciferianism; it parallels with the one’s actions and words cannot be ignored and cannot be ignored.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6INi5RG8wE&feature=related

also see the video: The Pure Luciferian Doctrine Revealed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWl_lK1-HvY

Obama also practices the Crowley satanic philosophy of “do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law”

satanists and luciferians believe that they are gods and all globalists. Remember when Farrakhan and others called him a god overtly and covertly, Obama did not refute what they were saying and never has.

Watching_Cloward-Piven on August 20, 2010 at 6:31 PM

also I love how so called conservatives and Republicans who wrap themselves in the flag find “birthers”(aka citizens who believe that the constitution is the supreme law of the land and swear to uphold it because holding dual citizenships and allegiances would cause problems and damage our Republic hence why the founders specifically wanted a natural born citizen born on US soil of 2 US citizens for the reasons our country is witnessing today) crazy and annoying. Yet the only defense they can mount is by mocking the person and issue, minimizing the person and issue, dismissing the person and issue (and other tactics of the left and Alinsky) while the “birthers” offer fact after fact as the evidence mounts daily that Obama is an usuper who should be thrown in jail along with anybody from both parties who allowed the most dangerous threat this country has even faced from within take office– all because unlike the “birthers”, these new card carrying country club Republicans, and psuedo-Constitutionalists, from Cable news channels to the Mainstream blogs, do not want to have their membership taken away and blackballed by the establishment.

This site is a shadow of what it used to be, which is unfortunate IMO.

Watching_Cloward-Piven on August 20, 2010 at 7:02 PM

Please explain to the class the marxist policies enacted by or currently being pursued by Obama.

Dave Rywall on August 20, 2010 at 9:59 AM

Dave how about Obamacare for starters because you should know if you have read about Marxism and Marxist countries that Lenin said “Medicine is the keystone to Socialism”.

Watching_Cloward-Piven on August 20, 2010 at 7:11 PM

Who the f do you think you are judging the Christian-ness of another human being?

Whatever stupid checklist you have in your little head is meaningless.

Dave Rywall on August 20, 2010 at 11:36 AM

Thanks for making my point. You are the dunce in the corner.

lilium on August 20, 2010 at 8:08 PM

Who the f do you think you are judging the Christian-ness of another human being?

Whatever stupid checklist you have in your little head is meaningless.

Dave Rywall on August 20, 2010 at 11:36 AM

Now we all know you aren’t a Christian neither.

lilium on August 20, 2010 at 8:10 PM

He also taught the Alinsky method who dedicated his book to lucifer.

Watching_Cloward-Piven on August 20, 2010 at 6:31 PM

Wow, I didn’t know that. Obama being a true disciple of Alinsky is one of the scariest things about him to me.

But I didn’t know the book was dedicated to Lucifer. So I looked up the quote. Here is the dedication in Alinsky’s book:

“Lest we forget at least an over-the-shoulder acknowledgment to the very first radical: from all our legends, mythology, and history (and who is to know where mythology leaves off and history begins — or which is which), the first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment and did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom — Lucifer”

Remember when Farrakhan and others called him a god overtly and covertly, Obama did not refute what they were saying and never has.

I remember the night of the election when he was looking out over the crowd with this superior and satisfied look on his face. It creeped me out and I remember it even creeped out the Newsweek (of all magazines) writers as well. That he was “watching them watching him.” He feels he is the messiah sent to us to save us from our own stupity. To redo our country and our constitution. Because he was raised to dislike Americanism by his mother, absent father and step-father. By the time his grandparents got him as a teenager, the damage was done and he already had a chip on his shoulder. And from what I’ve seen he doesn’t have much gratitude for his grandparents. “Typical white person.”

Elisa on August 20, 2010 at 9:07 PM

By the time his grandparents got him as a teenager, the damage was done and he already had a chip on his shoulder. And from what I’ve seen he doesn’t have much gratitude for his grandparents. “Typical white person.”

Elisa on August 20, 2010 at 9:07 PM

His grandparents were pretty radical too, and hooked him up with that Marshall fellow, the pedophilic Marxist, to mentor the young radical-in-making.

Maquis on August 23, 2010 at 11:17 AM

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