Quotes of the day
posted at 10:35 pm on August 18, 2010 by Allahpundit
When President Barack Obama turned the battle over a planned New York Islamic center into a national debate over religious freedom, he unwittingly allied himself and his party with an ill-planned, long-shot development project described by one of its most prominent allies as “amateur hour.”
The efforts to launch the $100 million Cordoba House (now dubbed Park51) two blocks north of the World Trade Center site have been an uphill battle from the start, and not just because of controversy. And even as the “Ground Zero Mosque” emerges as a hotly debated national symbol, New York government officials and real estate insiders are privately questioning whether the project has much chance of coming to fruition…
“They could have obviously done a lot better in explaining who they are if they really wanted to get approval,” said publicist Ken Sunshine, a veteran of New York’s development wars. “There’s a real question as to whether there’s money behind this.”
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As Dean explained, the purpose of the Ground Zero mosque — which is, in essence, to promote cross-cultural reconciliation — became irrevocably compromised once the controversy began bubbling around the project. This is no fault of the planners behind the Cordoba House, Dean acknowledged. But that didn’t nullify the argument that they would be better served to sit down with city and state officials to find an alternate site less objectionable the critics…
“I’ve seen a lot of the comments about this and a lot of it is silly that I’m agreeing with Sarah Palin or Newt Gingrich,” Dean said in response to the criticism. “That’s just silly. I don’t believe in race baiting…”
“The battle lines have been drawn so firmly on every issue that when the right says ‘X’ the left has to take the opposite position,” he added. “This seems like one issue where if you have a congregation that wants to make things work and want to bring America back together again then why don’t you do that.”
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But the mosque fiasco hasn’t only exposed the pretensions of the GOP. It’s exposed the pretensions of the Democrats as well. In important ways, it has revealed that the Obama administration, too, is a false dawn. After all, what did Obama promise liberals when he ran against Hillary Clinton? He promised that if he won, Democrats would no longer consult polls to decide what they believed. That’s what made Obama’s 2002 Iraq War speech so significant: when Washington Democrats were ducking for cover, taking positions that they manifestly did not believe, he did what he thought was right…
So let’s stop sneering when Dick Morris comes on TV. The behavior of today’s Democratic pols must have made him proud. And it’s time for New Yorkers to stop talking haughtily about the prejudices of flyover country. According to Fox, 30 percent of Americans support building the mosque near Ground Zero. In New York City, according to Marist, it’s 34 percent. That, evidently, is the margin of blue state decency. Turns out that when push comes to shove, folks in the Big Apple are about as concerned about the rights of Muslims as folks in Murfreesboro, Tennessee. Who says we’re a nation divided, that we can’t find common ground? Almost a decade later, we’ve finally done it: The memory of September 11 has brought us together again.
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Indeed, listening to all of this talk about “crowd” politics from liberals these days, you get the distinct impression that there are a lot of 20-something liberal bloggers, MSNBC talk-show hosts, and newspaper editorial writers who honestly believe that they are not only better than the American public but that they are in fact the duly anointed conscience of this, our embarrassingly backward and bigoted nation. They must stand ever vigilant, lest America’s deep reservoirs of hatred and bigotry burst their levees and spill out through the sluices of the Republican Party.
How does this river of hate manifest itself? The supposedly anti-Muslim 70 percent of Americans who don’t like the idea of building the Cordoba House near Ground Zero mostly also believe the owners have the right to do it if they can’t be persuaded otherwise. Wow, that’s some crackdown on Muslims.
In any decent society, tolerance must work both ways. If the majority is expected to show respect for a minority, the minority must also show some tolerance for the values of the majority.
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The mosque should be built precisely because we don’t like the idea very much. We don’t need constitutional protections to be agreeable, after all.
This point surpasses even all the obvious reasons for allowing the mosque, principally that there’s no law against it. Precluding any such law, we let people worship when and where they please. That it hurts some people’s feelings is, well, irrelevant in a nation of laws. And, really, don’t we want to keep it that way?









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No I did not..
Dire Straits on August 19, 2010 at 3:32 AM
Enjoyed it as always..:)
Dire Straits on August 19, 2010 at 3:36 AM
August 18, 2010
Dear Congressman Klein,
Last week, President Obama made the following comment regarding the proposed mosque at Ground Zero:
“As President, I believe that Muslims have the same right to practice their religion as everyone else in this country…and that includes the right to build a place of worship and a community center on private property in Lower Manhattan.”
As a student of history, and as someone who has stared down our Radical Islamic enemies in Iraq and Afghanistan, I know full well the enemy we currently face and the challenges we are up against. The Constitution allows for freedom of religion; however, this proposed mosque goes beyond the First Amendment. I’m not saying a mosque cannot be built in the United States, or even in New York City. But considering the myriad of external influences that are behind the funding of this so-called Islamic cultural center and mosque (including a tax-payer-funded trip for Imam Abdul Rauf to fly abroad as an “emissary” of the U.S. to raise funds for this project), as well as the fact that the location is sacred ground for millions of New Yorkers and Americans alike, this mosque should not be built.
The good people of Florida’s 22nd Congressional District deserve to hear where their Congressman stands on this important issue. I have made my stance clear – I do not support the building of this mosque in its present location.
I am asking you to join with me in telling President Obama that the residents of this Congressional District oppose building the mosque at Ground Zero. Our message can be simple:
“The constituents of Florida’s 22nd Congressional District want to register the strongest possible objection to the building of the proposed mosque near Ground Zero. While there is much Ron Klein and I disagree on, we both recognize the importance to South Floridians – and all Americans – that the hallowed ground in Lower Manhattan is not a place for anIslamic cultural center and mosque. Furthermore, we believe your enthusiastic endorsement of the building of the mosque symbolizes a clear victory in the eyes of those who brought down the twin towers, while further alienating our friends and allies at home and abroad. We offer this bi-partisan appeal on behalf of the good people of South Florida in order to convey the intensity and breadth of the opposition most Americans have to the building of this mosque.”
According to a CNN Opinion Research poll, 68% of Americans oppose the Ground Zero mosque. If you agree with most Americans, I ask you to join me in signing the above letter to the President, demanding he side with the American people – and all freedom-loving people, from South Florida to Jerusalem, who wish to preserve this piece of hallowed ground in Lower Manhattan.
Together, we can send a strong, bi-partisan message to the President that will echo the thoughts of millions of our fellow countrymen. I look forward to hearing back from you about this concerning issue as soon as possible.
Regards, Allen B. West
Tav on August 19, 2010 at 4:02 AM
Funny, isn’t it, how some people’s reverence and support for the “rule of law” (we’re a nation of laws!) in this country is so very strong when it comes to issues like building a Muslim mosque at Ground Zero, but when it comes to millions of illegal aliens flouting our laws . . . eh, not so much.
AZCoyote on August 19, 2010 at 6:26 AM
Saying it one million times doesn’t make it true. Exactly how is this supposed to promote reconciliation? “Healing?” This is the sort of assertion that almost always remains unchallenged. If conservatives would consistently ask, “In what way?” every time some platitudinous windbag started in with these claims, it would become obvious that these are simply leftist boilerplates designed to silence opposition.
DrMagnolias on August 19, 2010 at 7:11 AM
On the other hand, I think that the mosque should NOT be built in that location precisely because the mosque supporters want it at that location strongly enough to fight hard for it.
Smell test fail. Something’s up. Alarm bells ringing. No mosque at Ground Zero. That is all.
jakev on August 19, 2010 at 7:31 AM
It’s interesting how the Democrats are all saying that this is a local issue. Where was this thinking when it came to Arizona? Or health care?
Kafir on August 19, 2010 at 7:33 AM
You have made a super point. These people treat the Constitution more like a take out menu than a governing document.
Cindy Munford on August 19, 2010 at 7:53 AM
So, lemme’ see if I got this straight…
Kathleen Parker tells me, even though I don’t like the smell of camel dung, I should stick my nose in it anyway, simply because I don’t like the smell of it.. Besides, camels have a right to crap, anywhere they want.
Somehow, the logic escapes me.
franksalterego on August 19, 2010 at 8:26 AM
I wonder if the left’s newfound respect for religious freedom will include a defense of the Utah highway memorial crosses.
darwin on August 19, 2010 at 8:35 AM
Same here.
Have a good one.
Baxter Greene on August 19, 2010 at 8:37 AM
Heard last night that there’s already a mosque 2 blocks away from the proposed site of the new one and there really aren’t that many muslims in the area to need another mosque. Great idea, they can build the mosque when Zero plugs the holes in the border.
Kissmygrits on August 19, 2010 at 9:06 AM
darwin on August 19, 2010 at 8:35 AM
Of course not, darwin. The controversy involves “Christianists”.
kingsjester on August 19, 2010 at 9:06 AM
It’s gonna be a real uniter!
REUTERS
-Muslims in Manhattan who have prayed in a crowded basement or in the streets say they are not looking for confrontation with opponents of a new mosque. They simply need the space.
Some New Yorkers have emotionally opposed a proposed Muslim community center and mosque two blocks from the site of the Sept. 11, 2001, World Trade Center attacks. After President Barack Obama said last week that he supported the right of Muslims to build the center, some Republican politicians seized on the issue.
Although some Democrats have broken with Obama, saying the center should be built elsewhere, Obama said Wednesday during a trip to Ohio that he had “no regrets” about taking a controversial position on whether the project is built near the ground zero site.
In the midst of the debate are Muslims who work in Manhattan and need a place for daily prayers.
“You know how many Muslims are in this area? On Friday ,
the street used to be packed, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>we had a pass from the police to block the streets,” <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
said Saad Madaha, 32, a consultant originally from Ghana who prays at Masjid Manhattan in a narrow basement of a nightclub four blocks from the World Trade Center site.
"I would like to see a mosque that looks more like a mosque," Madaha said. “I would like to go and pray and have full concentration in my prayers and not have music bashing me in my head.”
The proposed Cordoba House, which has won local government approval, would not look like a traditional mosque.
Modeled after a typical YMCA facility , it would include an auditorium, swimming pool and meeting rooms in addition to a prayer space. Organizers say they oppose Islamist extremism.
Critics contend the center is insensitive to the families of the nearly 3,000 people who died when hijackers crashed planes into the twin towers and the Pentagon. Some Muslims say they understand why people might be upset and support an attempt by Gov. David Paterson to move the project to another location.
“We need mosques, but anywhere but ground zero. It’s going to be a problem all the time,” said Sheikh Hossein, 42, an immigrant from Bangladesh. “If this mosque is built here, every time there is terrorism, they are going to blame us.” Opponents and supporters of the proposed mosque both plan to mark the anniversary of the Sept. 11 attacks.
The group Stop Islamization of America said it will hold a rally in lower Manhattan after the annual memorial service honoring attack victims.
Meanwhile, the Arab American Association of New York said it is considering a community service project, interfaith dinner and other events to promote understanding.
-Reuters
Compare the bold text above with this:
“I was terribly impressed four years ago to visit the Holy Land. Beside nearly every Christian and Jewish holy site, the Muslims have built a mosque. These mosques scream the call to prayer five times a day and make quiet meditation and celebration of the mysteries of our faith nearly impossible. There are seven in the Old City of Jerusalem alone. They go off in syncopated fashion during the day and almost made me crazy. A member of the Knesset noted to me that the mosques are a provocation, and in the minds of the Islamic faithful, they are a sign of Islam’s domination over its enemies.”
Akzed on August 19, 2010 at 9:13 AM
To see where this is going just look at Europe. They don’t build mosques to pray … they build them to establish a Muslim presence and take areas over.
darwin on August 19, 2010 at 9:21 AM
Akzed on August 19, 2010 at 9:25 AM
Then why haven’t they accepted any of the multiple offers to compromise and locate the mosque elsewhere?
UltimateBob on August 19, 2010 at 10:05 AM
That might explain why the twin towers have not been rebuilt — to not provoke allah.
Dasher on August 19, 2010 at 10:48 AM
What else is going to be going on in that 15-story “community center”? Is it going to be commercial office space, making money for a supposed non-profit? Is it going to be free office space for terrorist sympathizers like CAIR?
PattyJ on August 19, 2010 at 10:53 AM
It will be full of thousands of Muslims every day, as will the streets around it, in view of the scar.
Akzed on August 19, 2010 at 12:02 PM
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