Jennifer Granholm: Criticizing the Chevy Volt is “un-American” or something

posted at 10:03 pm on August 16, 2010 by Allahpundit

Via Think Progress, which evidently thinks this is a nifty soundbite for their side. Since it’s their edit I assume it’s fair to the spirit of her remarks, in which case let me ask: Am I to understand that criticizing American-made products now qualifies as un-American? I.e. griping about the antenna issues on the new iPhone is … an act of disloyalty? Or are we limiting this critique to government-owned companies whose products may be both prohibitively expensive and hugely inefficient in terms of marginal gas mileage achieved, but who at least provide makework for American labor?

She’s not even making sense about GM paying back its loan. In fact, she’s not making sense about Limbaugh’s criticism either: He reiterated repeatedly in his recent monologues about this that his target was the administration’s handling of GM, not GM or the Volt. (“I want to stress again, my comments here have nothing to do with General Motors, the people that work there, their design staff, ’cause they’re not running it, and I’m not trying to talk anybody out of buying a General Motors car.”) Exit question: Is it un-American to think this is lame too?

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I had some fun with a Lefty recently on the topic of electric cars. He was hyped that it ran on “clean” electricity.

Then I reminded him that a battery is a storage device. Not a power generator. What the electric car “runs on” is entirely dependent on what fuel powers the electricity plant that the car is plugged into. If it’s a coal powered plant then the cars runs on coal.

Inform them that a coal powered plant consumes tons of coal for up to 8 hours while the car sits there doing nothing but charging just so you can drive it later for about 45 minutes. Watch their heads explode!

Guardian on August 16, 2010 at 10:27 PM

I loved this. Great post!

enoughalready on August 16, 2010 at 11:33 PM

Lol. Think Progress.

I’m sure Leo Dicaprio will buy one. The rest of us? Uh, no.

muckdog on August 16, 2010 at 11:35 PM

Jennifer Granholm is a hapless moron.

ktrush on August 16, 2010 at 11:41 PM

Maybe Granholm can make a career of selling used Volts in a couple of years.

GarandFan on August 16, 2010 at 11:21 PM

Once again, absolutely NOBODY will have a career selling Volts… used or otherwise.

JohnGalt23 on August 16, 2010 at 11:50 PM

Negative Granholm short-circuits with direct charges polarizing on Volt. Miswired UAW jolted to induce alternating threats of battery. Resistors conduct lightning session to rectify lines. Online surge transforming. Breakers getting amped on reverse potential. Seek dynamo to ground current governor’s static.

News at ten.

viking01 on August 16, 2010 at 11:54 PM

@ktrush: “Jennifer Granholm is a hapless moron.”

Oh… You don’t know the half of it.

She is a Canadian who cannot drive a car, does not have a driver’s license, and is driven everywhere she goes.

The people of Michigan elected her. Twice.

Pray for them.

Extra Special Prosecutor on August 16, 2010 at 11:54 PM

To think some are suggesting her for the Supreme Court

For all who enjoy my tedious harping on the subject, if you wish to understand Granholm, research her baby, the State of Michigan ‘Cool Cities’ program. Read it and weep

Basically, if a city becomes cool, jobs will follow. Therefore give out quarter mil grants to cities to study how to be cool. Scientifically proven by an academic who did a study and found cities with jobs had more cool people than cities without jobs, ergo, coolness attracts jobs

Coolness is defined in detail and it involves a lot of gender bending

Granholm herself cannot be cool, since she has driven jobs out of the state, except windmill repairmen and lithium ion battery factories factory.

entagor on August 16, 2010 at 11:58 PM

Sieg Heil!!!

You vill not speak dis vay about the VolksVolt.

Das people vill each have one after Dear Leader finishes die plan to put all citizens on unemployment stimulus in order to afford a VolksVolt.

ButterflyDragon on August 17, 2010 at 12:03 AM

I love electric vehicles. Have built several pretty cool electric motorcycles, and run a nice little electric mini-pickup for chores out at ‘the gulch’. I Charge it up with about fifty grand of solar system. (such are the costs of self sufficiency… Willingly paid, to be beyond the control of bureaucrats)

Know a little bit about electric vehicles, including the ‘big picture’ beyond the engineering and ‘just plugging it into the wall’….
If Chevy REALLY wanted to make a practical electric car, they would have updated the EV1, instead of building an 0bamacar.

LegendHasIt on August 17, 2010 at 12:05 AM

Spinmeisters.

Dhurka Dhurka on August 17, 2010 at 12:08 AM

Granholm is positively reVolting.

viking01 on August 17, 2010 at 12:14 AM

No Jenny, un-American is when a Canadian worms her way into the governorship of Michigan and presides over the complete destruction of education, industry, and the economy! Your whining, name-calling, and LIES do not hide the fact that you have totally pimped-out the good people of Michigan. I can only pray that you and your Union goons have at least reminded Michiganders of the vile disregard that Democrats have for the free-market system that allowed Detroit to rise to the top many decades ago. You, Ms. Granholm, are nothing but a boot-licking DESTROYER of America. Please go home!

redwhiteblue on August 17, 2010 at 12:19 AM

Here is a perfect example of outrageous misrepresentation. There is some serious editing of how much energy is required to get this thing going. Riding a 19 lb carbon frame bike up a hill with a 10 mph head wind is a tough slog. Something tells me this vehicle weighs a lot more than 19 lbs. It looks like one of the tires is at least half that at best.

A fool and his money are soon parted.

davo on August 17, 2010 at 12:26 AM

This Canadian is just doing the job that Americans won’t do.

Mojave Mark on August 17, 2010 at 12:39 AM

I love electric vehicles. Have built several pretty cool electric motorcycles, and run a nice little electric mini-pickup for chores out at ‘the gulch’. I Charge it up with about fifty grand of solar system. (such are the costs of self sufficiency… Willingly paid, to be beyond the control of bureaucrats)

Know a little bit about electric vehicles, including the ‘big picture’ beyond the engineering and ‘just plugging it into the wall’….
If Chevy REALLY wanted to make a practical electric car, they would have updated the EV1, instead of building an 0bamacar.

LegendHasIt on August 17, 2010 at 12:05 AM

I doubt any former staff/management at GM had all that much say in the specifications of the ‘Volt’.

Your “independent solar-panel energy” system is a great move (there are some people in my area with them). You can sell power (kilowatts) back to your local power company during the daylight hours with it.

But the ‘powers that be’ don’t like the idea of individual citizens being independently capable of self-sufficiency.

They will eventually come up with “some reason” to justify legislatively taking solar-panels away from us.

listens2glenn on August 17, 2010 at 1:01 AM

A fool and his money are soon parted.

davo on August 17, 2010 at 12:26 AM

In this country, the most disciplined and productive geniuses are parted from their money by Government mandate.

listens2glenn on August 17, 2010 at 1:10 AM

…They will eventually come up with “some reason” to justify legislatively taking solar-panels away from us….
listens2glenn on August 17, 2010 at 1:01 AM

They have to find them first. And I’m not grid connected; I purposely did not apply for tax credits etc. and paid cash, so as to not come to their attention. Sure, they can find them from a very careful aerial examination …..since John hasn’t shared his secret of gulch cloaking devices with me ;-) …but it is a big wide country…

And if they do find them… Well, if they would have them, let them come and take them. I’m not playing their games.

LegendHasIt on August 17, 2010 at 1:19 AM

Any profit that Government Motors makes, should go to the bond holders that were ripped off by Obama to buy his union buddies votes.

Kini on August 17, 2010 at 2:22 AM

Granholm is un-American. She’s a stupid, Canadian socialist.

Granholm is an out-and-out disgrace, and the people of Michigan are some of the dumbest people in the nation for voting her in. Those that voted for her deserve every drop of misery she douses them with, and they also need to be paid in full for every bit of misery those that didn’t vote for that inexperienced, incompetent Canadian asshat shyster.

Granholm is a disgusting, loathsome low-life that has transformed Michigan into a third-rate hole in the ground like the trash-heap she came from: Canada. If only her status as an American citizen were found fraudulent, and she were permanently deported to that damnable country.

Virus-X on August 17, 2010 at 3:27 AM

There’s a VW available in Europe that gets 75 to the gallon.
WTF?
In 89 the Geo Metro was EPA rated at 68 highway! WTF?

and so on….

Army Brat on August 17, 2010 at 3:55 AM

I see a lot of nonsense about the Volt, slagging off the product because of the political manipulation behind GM.

First: it looks like a pretty good technical effort, more expensive than the Prius but also technically much more ambitious.

Second: it exists not because of any dictate from Obama but because of CAFE. A Volt with substantial CAFE mileage ratings buys headroom to sell more Suburbans without paying penalties.

Third: GM has more interesting cars than, say, Toyota, or Nissan, or Honda, or a whole lot of other automakers. They’ve got some junk, too, and GM (and Ford, for that matter) pretty much abandoned certain segments (e.g. minivans) from which Honda and Toyota make lots of money.

Fourth: None of the above excuses the Federal takeover of GM.

JEM on August 17, 2010 at 4:06 AM

I actually think the Chevy Volt is an interesting idea, except for the fact that the sort who self-tax to gain the aura of eco-cool are unlikely to buy an American car.

If the Volt could sell in numbers, a bunch of useful technologies would be subject to economies of scale.

That said, Granholm is an idiot and should be sent packing at the first opportunity. Michigan needs to massively retool its tax and labor world to allow new industries, including ones that use factories and blue-collar workers, to develop. How many new, small factories have been opened in Michigan while Granholm has been in office?

The problem for politicians like Granholm is they think they’re entitled to business and its cashflow. They simply don’t comprehend that business doesn’t have to sit still while they tax it to death.

foobarista on August 17, 2010 at 4:09 AM

Army Brat – yes, under proper conditions with a tailwind maybe a little Fox 1.4 diesel does do that.

It’s a little bigger than a Smart, you can forget the automatic transmission or other amenities, but it is cheap to run.

I don’t recall any of the little Suzukis (that’s what the Geo Metro was, a Suzuki Swift) being rated at 68mpg. The manual-transmission versions were in the 50s IIRC. They work fine, if something that size will suit you.

JEM on August 17, 2010 at 4:12 AM

foobarista – Granholm’s Canadian by birth, Californian by upbringing, and machine Democrat by training.

She went to high school about ten miles from where I’m sitting.

It’ll be a pleasure to see her political career crater.

JEM on August 17, 2010 at 4:14 AM

Once my nephew graduates from MSU my brother will leave the dump that Michigan has become. Bo weeps in heaven!

BHO Jonestown on August 17, 2010 at 5:00 AM

Clearly, anyone who criticizes the Chevy Obamobile is a racist!

olesparkie on August 17, 2010 at 6:15 AM

I really am sick of how Jennifer Granholm keeps getting held up as part of the leadership. Uhhhhh, MICHIGAN?!?!??! The basket case of America? (or at least California’s kid sister) Why should we care at all what happens in freakin’ Michigan? How does Michigan have ANYTHING to teach to the rest of America except how to bankrupt oneself at the behest of unions and corrupt politicians?

johnmackeygreene on August 17, 2010 at 6:34 AM

Second: it exists not because of any dictate from Obama but because of CAFE. A Volt with substantial CAFE mileage ratings buys headroom to sell more Suburbans without paying penalties.

Corporate Average Fuel Economy is a back-door Government mandate, no matter who in Government is responsible for originating it.

listens2glenn on August 17, 2010 at 7:07 AM

If you build it, they will NOT come.

faol on August 17, 2010 at 7:10 AM

Is it a prerequisite to have a butch-lesbo hairdo when you are a woman in Hussein’s regime?

Alden Pyle on August 17, 2010 at 7:33 AM

She hasn’t made sense for the past 12 years! She is still blaming Engler (the former governor) for the financial collapse of Michigan

flytier on August 17, 2010 at 7:35 AM

Criticizing the Chevy Volt is “un-American”

This moment in thought policing is brought to you by your Liberal Facist friendly Democrat leadership. We use Death Panels teachable moments to promote correct modes of thought.

mad scientist on August 17, 2010 at 7:42 AM

Jennifer Granholm: Paul Krugman’s secret sweetie? They both seem equally reality-challenged.

mad scientist on August 17, 2010 at 7:44 AM

I take it, this ditz has never taken a position against Wal-Mart?

MNHawk on August 17, 2010 at 7:48 AM

Ask them the range of their electric lemon with the Air Conditioner running … It’s about 15 miles.

tarpon on August 17, 2010 at 8:00 AM

Virus-X on August 17, 2010 at 3:27 AM

You can blame the morons in Detroit for voting her in. Of course the Detroit school district is the worst in the country.

flytier on August 17, 2010 at 8:02 AM

@ktrush: “Jennifer Granholm is a hapless moron.”

Oh… You don’t know the half of it.

She is a Canadian who cannot drive a car, does not have a driver’s license, and is driven everywhere she goes.

The people of Michigan elected her. Twice.

Pray for them.

Extra Special Prosecutor on August 16, 2010 at 11:54 PM

*Ahem* Some of the people in Michigan. The same ones that keep voting for Stabenow, Dingle, Levin, and Conyers.
Many of us keep trying to change this, but we’ve not had many good choices. Much as I hate to say it, we may have been better off with Fieger…..

NavyspyII on August 17, 2010 at 8:55 AM

The GOP has some great ideas, why would any American criticize them, they are American workers, paying taxes, why would anyone criticize a GOP idea…

right2bright on August 17, 2010 at 9:01 AM

I’m surprised that Granholm didn’t say it was “racist” to bash the Volt. She’s done such a great job governing her state. Detroit could be used for a bombed out city backdrop in a movie.

Wills on August 17, 2010 at 9:03 AM

I love how liberals are so dumb. First of all, the NYT said it was a lemon, Rush just read the story. Second, if the car is a piece of crap, then it is a lemon. Whoever makes it doesn’t determine if it is a good car or not.

jeffn21 on August 17, 2010 at 9:16 AM

Jennifer Granholm is a hapless moron.

ktrush on August 16, 2010 at 11:41 PM

“Hapless” is only the tip of the iceberg with this tool!

pilamaye on August 17, 2010 at 9:20 AM

The Chinese electric are built without heaters. How would that work in Michigan? Defrost much?
The batteries are from Lithium. It will create a shortage for Dems that take it by prescription.

seven on August 17, 2010 at 9:26 AM

I’m surprised that Granholm didn’t say it was “racist” to bash the Volt. She’s done such a great job governing her state. Detroit could be used for a bombed out city backdrop in a movie.

It is in the new remake of “Red Dawn”.

Back in the day there was a joke about how Detroit wanted Beirut as a sister city. Beirut declined because they were afaid of the negitive connects to such a horrible place.
That was in the 80′s.

As for Jenny “from the block” Granholm. She promised to blow Michigan away during her re-election campain. She sure did.

Side note: Jenny take Uncle Buck’s advice.

mechkiller_k on August 17, 2010 at 9:45 AM

And it is not your agenda, therefore the idea that GM (Gov. Motors) paid back their debt with TARP money (as are other TARP recipients are). Now that they paid the TARP debt, are they (GM) safely above water? Or, only neck deep with a little bit of breathing room.

Also, the 10′ drive of the Volt by President Obama is a really grueling test. I wonder what kind of mileage it gets in feet, vice MPG.

Also, Ms. Granholm appears not to have an understanding of all of the facts about the vehicle and anything about the human factors involved in a vehicles use. 40 miles on the battery only is not far and the number of recharging stations even further from being able plot their locations. So is Ms. Granholm going to open her electrical panel to recharge vehicles who have drained their battery and what’s it going to cost to recharge the vehicle.

MSGTAS on August 17, 2010 at 9:45 AM

The entire volt mess summed up very nicely with the name.
THE ELECTRIC EDSEL!
It will join the list below in the automotive hall od shame.

Is criticizing a ‘65 Dodge Dart un-American?

Is criticizing the AMC Pacer un-American?

Is criticizing the Edsel un-American?

Is criticizing the Ford Pinto un-American?

Is criticizing the K-car un-American?

Is criticizing the Pontiac Aztec un-American?

I’m sure there are plenty more.

Marty on August 16, 2010 at 10:16 PM

Col.John Wm. Reed on August 17, 2010 at 10:02 AM

Hey! Everyone should own one! Obama owes EVERYONE in America one! It was paid for by our TAX MONEY!

CynicalOptimist on August 17, 2010 at 10:17 AM

Granholm is running Michigan using all of the liberal ideas she’s ever heard. The results, not suprisingly, are bad for Michigan.

hawksruleva on August 17, 2010 at 10:18 AM

Hey! Everyone should own one! Obama owes EVERYONE in America one! It was paid for by our TAX MONEY!

CynicalOptimist on August 17, 2010 at 10:17 AM

Only problem, I don’t want one. If I had a Chevy Volt, I’d just be paying taxes on a car that would never leave my driveway.

hawksruleva on August 17, 2010 at 10:19 AM

Volt. $41,000.

Camaro SS. $34,000, loaded 435hp Corvette LS3 V-8.

No contest.

I will not drive a chicklet with wheels, battery or not.

Brian1972 on August 17, 2010 at 10:22 AM

Volt. $41,000.
Camaro SS. $34,000, loaded 435hp Corvette LS3 V-8.
No contest.
I will not drive a chicklet with wheels, battery or not.

Brian1972 on August 17, 2010 at 10:22 AM

Sure but that big badge of moral superiority that the Volt comes with is worth thousands to a liberal moonbat.

slickwillie2001 on August 17, 2010 at 11:13 AM

Wasn’t it Hillary that screamed we had a right to criticize the Chevy Volt or any other kind of car?
Oh, wait, maybe that was something else she screamed.

JellyToast on August 17, 2010 at 11:18 AM

The Chevy Volt is powered not by little gremlins or magic fairy dust but by 48% coal fed power plants.
It is the first “coal-powered vehicle” in probably 60 or more years built in the US.

J_Crater on August 17, 2010 at 11:31 AM

griping about the antenna issues on the new iPhone is … an act of disloyalty?

Yes, one which the Dark Lord, Steve Jobs, will punish harshly.

I R A Darth Aggie on August 17, 2010 at 11:34 AM

listens2glenn – yes, CAFE is a government mandate and unfortunately it’s part of the legacy of Reagan’s years in office.

CAFE had all kinds of unintended consequences.

By clobbering large passenger cars it pushed people to trucks and SUVs.

It computed fleet average separately for US production and imports within an automaker’s line, ostensibly to force Detroit to build more small cars here, what it did was push big car production to Mexico.

Automakers resorted to smaller brakes and smaller fuel tanks than the same car has elsewhere in the world, in order to get it into a lighter weight class in the EPA testing.

Similarly they cooked up transmission gearing and shift strategies that improve the CAFE numbers but actually work against gas mileage and driveability in the real world.

And now our eco-Congress has gone and jacked up CAFE again. It’s not just the current idiot in the White House who thinks this is a good idea, the last idiot did too.

JEM on August 17, 2010 at 11:37 AM

Sure but that big badge of moral superiority that the Volt comes with is worth thousands to a liberal moonbat.

slickwillie2001 on August 17, 2010 at 11:13 AM

For around $41,000, you can get the Camaro SS and have a few grand left over for an aftermarket intercooled supercharger kit and chip upgrade. That puts you in the 475-500hp range.

That will leave their moral superiority in a cloud of burnout smoke. :)

As far as the girl-magnet factor goes, I would probably find the type of girl whose cheeks get a little flushed red from the V-8 power more attractive than one who was drawn to the “green” marketing.

The difference between Cheryl Crow and S.E. Cupp.

Just like the cars, no contest there.

Brian1972 on August 17, 2010 at 11:38 AM

J_Crater – no, the Volt is powered by gasoline, just like the Prius, and just like most other cars.

You can plug it in to charge it, and maybe people will, but a lot won’t.

What your electricity comes from depends on where you are. Out here in California we’ve got IIRC about 1/3 hydro, 1/3 natural gas, and 1/3 nuke, no coal.

Hydro’s great when you can get it as long as the anti-dam clowns don’t get their way.

It’s just amazing how we’ve given up building infrastructure, we’re going to let the environuts price what we’ve always regarded as a middle-class existence out of the middle-class’ reach.

JEM on August 17, 2010 at 11:42 AM

Brian1972 – which would all be fine if the new Camaro weren’t ugly as being stuck in a Hefty Contractor Cleanup Bag with Rosie O’Donnell and two gallons of salad oil.

They tried to get the ’69 look but the beltline’s too tall and the windows are too small and it just looks weird.

Don’t get me wrong, GM does wonderful wonderful powertrains these days, the CTS-V is a thing of beauty, the C6 ‘Vette, the Holdens (Pontiac G8, RIP, we hardly knew ye), the LNF 2-liter turbo in the Cobalt SS/Solstice GXP/Sky Red Line was a work of art.

But not the Camaro. Bleah.

JEM on August 17, 2010 at 11:47 AM

Hydro’s great when you can get it as long as the anti-dam clowns don’t get their way.

JEM on August 17, 2010 at 11:42 AM

I get my electricity on the Tennessee Valley Authority system.

Several hydroelectric dams on the Tennessee River produce power, and provide killer giant reservoir lakes for sport fishing and water recreation.

They have had to augment with a few coal plants in recent decades, and there are three nuke facilities, one in north Alabama and two in Tennessee.

I get all my heat needs met by natural gas direct to the house.
It is a pretty good system for the region.

Brian1972 on August 17, 2010 at 11:50 AM

But not the Camaro. Bleah.

JEM on August 17, 2010 at 11:47 AM

The new Camaro looks good to me. I like the high beltline and the modern aggressive look.

Cobalt? Why bother?

Cadillac’s CTS-V sedan holds the record time at the Nurburgring for a four door.

The Corvette ZR1 holds the record time for a production car.

That Vette sounds particularly nasty. :)

There are rumors of a forthcoming Camaro Z28 equipped with that supercharged LS9 in the ZR1. That would be interesting.

Brian1972 on August 17, 2010 at 11:58 AM

The difference between Cheryl Crow and S.E. Cupp.
Just like the cars, no contest there.

Brian1972 on August 17, 2010 at 11:38 AM

I’d want to put newspapers down first if Cheryl Crowe was to sit in my car.

slickwillie2001 on August 17, 2010 at 12:12 PM

She’s not even making sense about GM paying back its loan

She’s a democrat & her lips are moving. Therefore, she’s lying.

That being said, yes, I’d hit it.

pain train on August 17, 2010 at 12:25 PM

NOTICE TO LIBERALS:

The decision to use a battery is a decision to waste 75% of the energy you must generate somewhere else!!!

It is not “Un-American” to point out the stupidity of replacing something which works with something which does not work.

landlines on August 17, 2010 at 12:26 PM

“it is mind-blowing to me”.Doesn’t take much to blow a small mind does it?

DDT on August 17, 2010 at 2:12 PM

JEM on August 17, 2010 at 11:42 AM

Brian1972 on August 17, 2010 at 11:50 AM

So if you live in the liberal Northeast, you could think of this as a nuclear-car? Can you drive it in their ‘nuclear-free zones’?

slickwillie2001 on August 17, 2010 at 2:37 PM

DISSENT IS:
(if Democrats in power) UNAMERICAN
(else if Republicans in power) PATRIOTIC

That’s going to be complicated for a bumper sticker; any chance we could have a single rule that applies all the time?

gekkobear on August 17, 2010 at 2:42 PM

I don’t recall any of the little Suzukis (that’s what the Geo Metro was, a Suzuki Swift) being rated at 68mpg. The manual-transmission versions were in the 50s IIRC. They work fine, if something that size will suit you.

JEM on August 17, 2010 at 4:12 AM

I did some research in 89 when I was run down by a semi whilst riding my Motorpickle. I wanted good mileage and ended up buying a Dahaitsu Charade which was rated at 53 highway. The Metro was most certainly rated at 68 as I recall putting a dent in the fender of one with my knuckle when checking out the thickness of the metal involved.

I gave up the extra 15 MPG on that basis. The Daihatsu did not dent when tapped in the same spot. It also went 186,000 miles on its little 53 HP engine before it got too ugly to do business out of. Not bad for a car that cost me 5300 dollars.
My Toyota Echo gets a mere 50 on the highway but will do all of 120. The Charade would get to about 103 after 5 minutes of

Army Brat on August 17, 2010 at 4:25 PM

being floored and rolling down hill….

Army Brat on August 17, 2010 at 4:26 PM

Yahvo, the Volts-vagen will turn Michigan’s economy around.

chickasaw42 on August 17, 2010 at 7:51 PM

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