Harry Reid: I wish they’d build the Ground Zero mosque somewhere else

posted at 3:49 pm on August 16, 2010 by Allahpundit

CNN’s headline is “Reid breaks with Obama,” but that’s not quite true. It was clear from the start, even before Saturday morning’s “clarification,” that The One was voting present on the central question of whether the Park51 center should be built where the owners want it built. Reid’s simply gone a little further than O by addressing that point, while of course reiterating that they have the right to build there if they so desire. Which puts him squarely in line with … Sharron Angle.

“The First Amendment protects freedom of religion,” spokesman Jim Manley said in a statement. “Sen. Reid respects that but thinks that the mosque should be built some place else. If the Republicans are being sincere, they would help us pass this long overdue bill to help the first responders whose health and livelihoods have been devastated because of their bravery on 911, rather than continuing to block this much-needed legislation.”

I know national polls show voters (including a majority of Democrats) overwhelmingly against the mosque but I’m still surprised that he went this route. He’ll be absolutely obliterated by the left for it. They’ll turn out for him anyway, I assume, in the interest of electing Anyone But Angle, but he’s going to take an unholy beating in the meantime. Consider this a parting gift to him from Obama, whose agenda has already placed Reid on the brink of electoral destruction: Had Barry O simply stayed away from this subject and continued with the lame but smart talking point about not interfering in local issues, Reid probably could have ducked it. Instead he spoke up and nationalized it, and now Democrats everywhere will have to decide whether to walk the plank or save themselves. Good work, champ.

There’s a report just across from Haaretz as I write this that the Park51 owners are planning to abandon the project and move it elsewhere, but I haven’t seen that anywhere else. Take it with a grain of salt, but do note the mention in the story of a shortage of funds for the building. That was part of David Frum’s reasoning last week vis-a-vis why he thought the center might be a big publicity stunt. If so, it’s a brilliant one, because as Haaretz says, they’ll probably clean up in sympathy donations now if they do end up moving.

Update: An update from Greg Gutfeld on his gay bar: “The new name is Dialog. Yes, I am building Dialog.”

Update: The first progressive uppercut on Reid comes from Greg Sargent: “This just makes the Dems look weak, unorganized, cowardly, and unwilling to take a stand for principles they plainly believe in.”

Update: As suspected, it looks like the Haaretz story is bogus. The Park51 spokesman is tweeting that there’s no truth whatsoever to it.

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Can someone say a few words for TRC? I’m looking down at the casket and I have nothing to say.

faraway on August 16, 2010 at 6:28 PM

Hope they bought the casket from the monks in LA.

SuzyQAZ on August 16, 2010 at 7:12 PM

build it in nevada then.

RealMc on August 16, 2010 at 7:29 PM

Sincere nut jobs are your thing? hmmmm

CWforFreedom on August 16, 2010 at 6:15 PM

We’re online. Nut jobs are the norm. Sincerity is not.

CWforFreedom on August 16, 2010 at 6:42 PM

Are you sad that I didn’t respond quickly to your first post? Calm. I do other things that read Hot Air.

Esthier on August 16, 2010 at 7:35 PM

Chris Christie outmanned by Harry Reid?

The World Turned Upside Down.

profitsbeard on August 16, 2010 at 7:58 PM

Chris Christie outmanned by Harry Reid?

The World Turned Upside Down.

profitsbeard on August 16, 2010 at 7:58 PM

…no just election-year-BS ! The DummyCraps have always been experts in that !

cableguy615 on August 16, 2010 at 9:28 PM

I don’t care who calls who out vis-a-vis the topic in question. It’s the endless 800-comment digressions about who said what in which thread three months ago about someone being a bigot that annoy the hell out of me. If you guys want to rehash old business, do it elsewhere.

Allahpundit on August 16, 2010 at 5:28 PM

That would probably be me. For the record, it didn’t take 800 posts, only 7 or 8.

ddrintn on August 16, 2010 at 9:50 PM

Playing catch up and thinking; wasn’t the race card already declared ‘maxed-out already’? But I guess today was when it got revoked and cut up. But I digress

1) the whole GZ Mosque is nothing less than our Marines planting the flag on Iwo Jima — not that battle was won, we had yet more days to fight and dead to count before the Island was pacified. GZM isn’t a declaration of victory, it’s a battle cry to rally the faithful that in due time Allah will bless them by adding the great US of A to the caliphate once his flag flies over our capital

2) Since the Iman wants dialogue, he should use his taxpayer-funded trip to the Middle East and ask the various govts to rebuild the churches, synagogues, temples and whatever idols (to whit the Buddhist statues in Afghan) were destroyed. And that they equally protect the right of people to worship as they please without undue penalty. That’s a dialogue worth believing when I see it or more appropriately when pigs fly over their heads. After all, if Allah is so powerful & just, he doesn’t need a two-bit jihadi to act as the sword of god, inflicting death on infidels. Let Allah show some shock & awe via his death angels, if he can. If the God of Abraham could do it, why can’t the god of Mohammed? Unless they’re not one and same. But I digress again.., Point being, let the Musselman show tolerance in his land then we can dialogue

AH_C on August 16, 2010 at 9:59 PM


I know a few Muslim apostates.

Do they count?

Muslims are the first and worst victims of Islam.

Wanting to free people from a theocratic totalitarian dicatorship is a kindness, fool.

profitsbeard on August 16, 2010 at 10:06 PM

There’s Something About Harry borrowing a page from McCain’s re-election playbook that seems fitting…

Gohawgs on August 16, 2010 at 11:45 PM

Man, I wish they had built Harry Reid somewhere else.

Then we couldn’t blame it on America

Meanwhile the mosque issue messed up his First Responder schtick planned for the election

Reid/Pelosi tried to make it look like GOPs were voting against helping first responders when they rejected Reid’s package. This was going to be a tidy plum to show why Reid is needed to protect first responders. Union seminar callers had already been working the talk shows begging GOPs to stop being hard ask

Instead. everyone is off tpic with the Mosque of Hamas at ground zero. That is why Harry is so sad

The best laid plans of mice sometimes turn to cheese

entagor on August 17, 2010 at 12:07 AM

A Re-post:

What Obama had to say about placing a Mosque at ground zero was perhaps expected; but a failure on his part to yield to the will of the majority of people in America will cost Obama everything he has and force him out. No mosque will be built on or anywhere near ground zero.

Why were the Obama comments expected?

For a man who writes, “The Muslim Call to Prayer is one of the Prettiest Sounds on Earth”, said Barack Obama to the New York Times. What would you expect?

For a man who spent a great deal of time as a youth in Indonesia surrounded by Muslims; his step-father Sotero was Muslin, his uncles and aunts were Muslim, his grandfather was Muslim and his relatives and friends were Muslim. Obama read and recited the Islamic book called the Koran daily. What would you expect?

For a man that says America is no longer a Christian nation, despite the statistical fact that almost 80% of American’s relate to Christianity in some way. What would you expect? In truth, Muslims are not more than .06 to less than 1.0% of the population in America (est. 2009). Very small percentage of Muslims in America, very small.

On more than one occasion, Obama has had a Freudian slip and declared that he is, or his religion is, Islamic. What would you expect?

Both Obama and Bloomberg have the right idea. This is a religious question. However, remember that there is NO imperative that a mosque be built in the area called ground zero. And, as a matter of tolerance, we can say that those Muslims that want to build a mosque in New York can build it elsewhere. That is tolerance enough and certainly more than the Muslims have for our feelings about ground zero.

And, as for Obama’s declaration that we must allow for religious freedom, I agree. An overwhelming majority of America’s Christians believe that Islam is primitive, of the devil, intolerant, unforgiving and backward. The Koran is proof that Muslims are encouraged to kill infidels rather than tolerate them; and force their religion upon others. Islam is an extremely degenerate set of outdated tenets.

So we have to be tolerant of Muslims when their Islamic ideals call for intolerance; I say NO.

Nevertheless, Christian opinion is strong enough to carry the day and prohibit, by whatever means, the building of a mosque anywhere near ground zero.

And, as long as Obama has declared that we shall have religious freedom, Christians and other dignified non-Muslim individuals will fight openly and freely against everything that Islam and Muslims stands for.

As a matter of fact, we shall pray fervently that the Muslims who don’t give a damn about the sanctity of ground zero can go to hell. Religiously, we shall oppose this plan of theirs with everything we have. And, to those who feel that we should tolerate Muslim’s intolerance regarding respecting our views on ground zero — Obama and Bloomberg and liberal extreme democrats — we American’s will push them out on election day or sooner by any means we can.

American’s have begun their fight to put Islam down as unAmerican; it is part of our religious right and the free exercise our beliefs. Amen.

AdrianS on August 17, 2010 at 12:33 AM

I thought of the muslim call to prayer last night. I think it was wild turkeys in the Georgia woods. They can make the darndest sounds.

slickwillie2001 on August 17, 2010 at 1:15 AM

I studied the Koran a great deal. I came away from that study with the conviction there have been few religions in the world as deadly to men as that of Muhammad. So far as I can see, it is the principal cause of the decadence so visible today in the Muslim world and, though less absurd than the polytheism of old, its social and political tendencies are in my opinion to be feared, and I therefore regard it as a form of decadence rather than a form of progress in relation to paganism itself.
(Alexis de Tocqueville)

Tav on August 17, 2010 at 4:41 AM

Ed Morrissey on August 16, 2010 at 5:56 PM

Ed Morrissey on August 16, 2010 at 5:59 PM

Thank you Ed.

garry on August 17, 2010 at 6:51 AM

A perfect spot for the new Ground Zero Mosque. Find an outhouse in the eastern Kentucky hills and build the mosque UNDERNEATH it.

MaiDee on August 17, 2010 at 9:02 AM

The mosque needs to be built inside the new WTC. The commerce clause says so.
– crr6

angryed on August 17, 2010 at 10:29 AM

I think the dems stepped in it. People are really enraged over this. Added with porkulus, and obamunistcare, they are in deeeeeeep shiite.

dogsoldier on August 17, 2010 at 11:16 AM

I think the Knight’s Templar should build right across the street.

They want a jihad, I raise them a crusade.

Yes, I believe in your right to worship, but that’s the only right you have. You don’t have the right to build anywhere you want, nobody does.

Let them build it, then imminent-domain it and build a municipal parking lot.

docjohn52 on August 17, 2010 at 3:11 PM

Curiously, how many Hotairheads actually know or have befriended any Muslims?

That must seem like a shallow consideration. But it’s as if you people are talking about those people with NO personal context or familiarity.

The Race Card on August 16, 2010 at 4:52 PM

Actually I know a few, Albanian immigrants, nice folks. I don’t normally ask people what their religion is when I meet and interact with them. Do you? Really, you are an ass.

Willie on August 17, 2010 at 3:37 PM

When I see a synagogue in Mecca, I’ll be sympathetic

Dingbat63 on August 17, 2010 at 6:59 PM

Curiously, how many Hotairheads actually know or have befriended any Muslims?

That must seem like a shallow consideration. But it’s as if you people are talking about those people with NO personal context or familiarity.

The Race Card on August 16, 2010 at 4:52 PM

Me, for decades… you moron…

Khun Joe on August 18, 2010 at 3:23 AM

He is LYING.
His statement was OK’d for his reelection.

lilium on August 18, 2010 at 4:54 AM

Right next to MGM Grand, who should offer a free pork buffet on the mosques opening.

I am sure there is not a speaker system that can overcome the external levels of noise to call their faithful to prey, who are probably to stoned (drugs of alcohol). Also, the women they are partying with are not their wife and refuses to prey with him. So he cuts off her head and calls it an honor killing, because she did not honor his right to prey.

MSGTAS on August 18, 2010 at 10:02 AM

Well TRC really did incite violence against Bishop. That was his intention.
He did it true elementary school style.
I remember when kids would say “I call you out!”
TRC is a mental midget.

The Race Card will be missed. He was one of the great minds of our times. R.I.P.

Narutoboy on August 16, 2010 at 6:09 PM

Thanks for the laugh.
That guy never had anything intelligble to say.
He claimed glittering intellect and is nothing but an empty-headed vessel.
He said himself sometime back that he liked to hit-&-run & watch the fur fly.
He bragged how he had tons of browser windows open all at once.
Silly goose-don’t you understand that multi-tasking leads to low comprehension of critical thinking exercises?
It is true.

On topic-I too have studied the Koran.
They aren’t kidding when they call it the victory mosque.
That’s what it’s for.
A thumb in our eye.
We have such ignorant tools in this country.

Badger40 on August 18, 2010 at 9:44 PM