PPP poll: Palin leads GOP field — among Republicans who say they’ve smoked pot
posted at 4:49 pm on August 13, 2010 by Allahpundit
Who was it, remind me, who was ahead of the curve on this? Who was it who called on her to gently appeal to the legalization crowd weeks before she ended up dropping that mini-bombshell on Napolitano’s show about marijuana laws being overenforced?
C’mon. I have, like, three good ideas a year. Give a man some props.
Among Republicans who say they’ve smoked Marijuana:
Palin 25
Gingrich 22
Huckabee 17
Romney 17
Paul 8Among Republicans who say they have not smoked Marijuana:
Huckabee 24
Romney 23
Gingrich 21
Palin 21
Paul 3
The sample size was only, er, 83 people, but even so, I’m intrigued to see her so far ahead of Ron Paul, whom you might think would have this particular market cornered. Either her brand as a western libertarian-ish type is stronger than we realized or pot-smoking is so mainstream even among Republicans that there’s no “fringe effect” when polling this particular demographic. When you sample a group of conservatives who’ve smoked weed, you end up with … a group of conservatives, not the pilots of the next “rEVOLution” blimp or whatever. Exit question: Which formerly lefty issue will a majority of the right embrace first, marijuana legalization or gay marriage?
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What percentage of Republican “base” voters would you say are for legalization of MJ?
If a significant portion of them are against this (actually finding this wrong or liberal), then perhaps this headline is a negative to them. From my reading, this is not an argument solely about drug laws being right or wrong … but more about how such results impact the average voter (especially, the average Republican primary voter).
It would be like saying, “Hillary Clinton is the Most Pro-Defense Democrat,” and then acting shocked that the base Democrats didn’t want Hillary as President…
MeatHeadinCA on August 14, 2010 at 2:25 PM
“It’s the economy, stupid.”
So:
– marijuana legalization: MORE REVENUE.
vs.
– legalization of gay marriage: LESS REVENUE.
Thus, “marijuana legalization” it is.
Lourdes on August 14, 2010 at 2:26 PM
Though, me, I’d support neither.
Lourdes on August 14, 2010 at 2:27 PM
Yes, HotAir is solely signed up to undermine Sarah Palin, you wacko.
MadisonConservative on August 14, 2010 at 2:28 PM
Wall Street is sucking the taxpayers dry, gang. We should let these massive investment banks collapse, because if we don’t and prevent the biggest Depression in world history (thanks Bush), then ARGHGH that’s deficit spending!!! That’s way worse than having the entire world economy collapse!
Proud Rino on August 14, 2010 at 2:21 PM
hey let’s takeover AIg and use backdoor paynments to prop up forgien banks and companies. Hey let’s right a law saying the POTUS now can do TARP anytime he wants without a vote of Congress and call in finacial regulation. hey let’s allow to big to fail banks grow bigger ensuring that the taxpayer will always be on the hook no matter how many mistakes thier CEO’s make and risky investments they make. Hey let’s avoid the pain of bad decsions at all cost and instead of 12-18 months of high unemployment, reallocation of capital as the bad investments and bad mangers are flushed from the system let’s settle for a decade or two of slow to no growth, high debt, and no personal responsibility for failed decsions…..
unseen on August 14, 2010 at 2:29 PM
Considering that Democrats have spent 20 years on the anti-drug wagon since it caught fire with Reagan and Bush, it could be sizable. Look at the pols opposing the measure. Jerry Brown. Feinstein. Boxer. This isn’t a partisan issue, and since there hasn’t been a lot of national dialogue in recent years regarding the issue, there is potentially a wellspring of support on the right.
MadisonConservative on August 14, 2010 at 2:30 PM
Who runs Wall Street? Who is the CEO of Wall Street, because I’d like to give that guy a call and talk to him about a few things.
As to how it’s regulated, listen, there’s a reason why Wall Street is the banking capital of the world, there’s a reason why Manhattan is crawling with big law firms and big companies, and it’s not because it’s being regulated poorly. They don’t have to be here. Many of those companies have offices elsewhere, they could close up shop here tomorrow and start working out of London or Tokyo and no one can stop them.
AH, but I KNOW! They’re FATCATS. I don’t want all these businesses and the thousands upon thousands of people they employ in the United States in a place that is quite reasonably called the capital of the world. I’d rather they went to some other country, I’m quite certain they would like to have our fatcats.
Proud Rino on August 14, 2010 at 2:32 PM
Are you seriously arguing that Hotair doesn’t have an anti-Palin slant?
sharrukin on August 14, 2010 at 2:35 PM
Are you seriously arguing that anything HotAir posts about her is negative?
MadisonConservative on August 14, 2010 at 2:38 PM
Man I just hate businesses and their “profits.” Why can’t they just give all their money to Dear Leader Sarah Palin instead of making profits and selfishly using them to expand their fatcat businesses?
Proud Rino on August 14, 2010 at 2:40 PM
That doesn’t really answer my question. Here’s what Ed wrote yesterday.
This is in California, if I understand correctly. Now, I’m not of the mindset that Palin should somehow “tone it down,” but I am sympathetic to those that believe that continual poking at Palin for things like this don’t help her image among Republicans. If it were just one post like this, then perhaps it is funny or entertaining… but if some here claim that this is a pattern, then perhaps it’s not something to brush off so lightly.
What if every week, there were threads along the lines “Mitt Romney supported by Fundamentalist Mormons” or “Mitt Romeny highest in pols among welfare recipients.” While Repulbicans as a whole don’t dislike Mormons and welfare recipients, there are key demographics that would find such things a turn off.
From my point of view, at least Ed has made some compelling cases for legalization and so one could say that perhaps his alleged hitjobs on Palin aren’t really hitjobs at all … more celebration.
MeatHeadinCA on August 14, 2010 at 2:41 PM
I remember a time when stupid anti-corporate rhetoric was just on the Left. Maybe you’d be more comfortable over there, unseen.
Proud Rino on August 14, 2010 at 2:41 PM
No, not everything. Just the vast majority of posts are negative, or the coverage is slanted. Some posts are evenhanded, most are not.
sharrukin on August 14, 2010 at 2:43 PM
Again…it’s not poking if the people bringing it up think it’s a good thing. HA has held a pro-legalization stance for a while, so this post is enthusiastic. People need to stop thinking that their perception overrides the actual commentary of the bloggers.
MadisonConservative on August 14, 2010 at 2:44 PM
You make a good point here.. When people write in a “snark” form it can throw folks off if they are not used to it..:)
Dire Straits on August 14, 2010 at 2:49 PM
Considering that commenters regularly dismiss polling outfits if they put Palin in a negative light, then welcome them back into the fold if they put Obama in a negative light, pardon me if I don’t buy the “vast majority are negative” canard. This blog comments on media output. The vast majority of media output is anti-Palin. We can agree on that, I would think. Do you expect them to only cover pro-Palin pieces? If so, there will be very little to talk about.
If you want pure pro-Palin opinions, there are sites for that. HotAir is a political blog that strives for objectivity. They don’t endorse candidates. They simply provide analysis of media coverage and news events. They have for years. When news is slow, they’re slow. They go after the usual idiots on MSNBC for attacking the Tea Party and Palin all the time. When that occurs, commenters don’t reverse themselves and say “HA must be a pro-Palin site”.
Palin. Is. Flawed. You can’t dismiss anyone as anti-Palin that notices her bad points as well as her good points. If you want propaganda, Conservatives4Palin is just what you need. Same for Romney, Huck, McCain, whoever you wish to hear only good things about.
MadisonConservative on August 14, 2010 at 2:51 PM
No. That’s wrong. I for example am for legalization of pot. I even occasionally joke about it. But if I kept taunting social conservative that were against legalization by saying, “You’re stoner Palin wants to legalize it,” then I’m poking. For the record, I’m not sure Palin wants to legalize it.
I also pointed out that at least Ed makes an argument FOR legalization … very well thought out ones.
If you were a soccon, would you find this to be “poking?”
Now, you don’t find it “poking” when someone who has often been quite against the rLOVEutionists is shocked that the pot-heads don’t flock to Paul? It doesn’t sound like it’s so great to be supported by the former MJ users (at least from the author’s perspective).
MeatHeadinCA on August 14, 2010 at 2:53 PM
Many of those companies have offices elsewhere, they could close up shop here tomorrow and start working out of London or Tokyo and no one can stop them.
Proud Rino on August 14, 2010 at 2:32 PM
ROFL….sure they could infact they started to do just that when sarbanes-Oxaly law (one of those regulations that runs wall street)was passed. which made london grow to be bigger than NY for a time. that is until the UK raised taxes.
no one can stop them? well not in a free trade environment at least. i would like to see these companies move to london or toyko if tarrifs increased by say 50% for all imports. can you say “insorucing” and the total destruction of China’s trade based economy.
As to how it’s regulated, listen, there’s a reason why Wall Street is the banking capital of the world, there’s a reason why Manhattan is crawling with big law firms and big companies
finally something I can agree with you on. yes there is a reason but it is one that people on wall street and you have forgotten. the reason is the US consitution and the rule of law formed by that Republic founded by those documents have allowed Wall street to become the banking capital of the world over the last 200 odd years. and all of that has been sacrificed to the alter of Crony capitalism for the safety of a pay chec
unseen on August 14, 2010 at 2:55 PM
Where has HA called her a stoner?
MadisonConservative on August 14, 2010 at 2:57 PM
Am I hallucinating, or is Proud RINO defending Wall Street and capitalism?
MadisonConservative on August 14, 2010 at 2:58 PM
As far I know, they haven’t. That’s why I used the word “I”
MeatHeadinCA on August 14, 2010 at 2:59 PM
I remember a time when stupid anti-corporate rhetoric was just on the Left. Maybe you’d be more comfortable over there, unseen.
Proud Rino on August 14, 2010 at 2:41 PM
I remember when what was good for GM was good for America. The corprate world has forsaken America, its ideals, its laws, its founding doucments and placed profit over country. I can’t wait till china goes through a massive recession and its communist government seizes their companies in the name of the people.
unseen on August 14, 2010 at 2:59 PM
BTW, it should have been “Your” in that last sentence.
MeatHeadinCA on August 14, 2010 at 2:59 PM
I don’t think GM is a good example..Their problems are mainly bad products and unions.
Dire Straits on August 14, 2010 at 3:04 PM
MeatHeadinCA on August 14, 2010 at 2:41 PM
good post
unseen on August 14, 2010 at 3:04 PM
“Again…it’s not poking if the people bringing it up think it’s a good thing. HA has held a pro-legalization stance for a while, so this post is enthusiastic. People need to stop thinking that their perception overrides the actual commentary of the bloggers.
MadisonConservative on August 14, 2010 at 2:44 PM”
“People” should also stop pretending the perception of the anti-legalization bloc of the GOP was likely not on allahpundit’s mind when typing this post.
He’s an astute blogger who knew just what hornet’s nest he was poking here.
Or an idiot. You pick your opinion.
cs89 on August 14, 2010 at 3:06 PM
If I wanted MSNBC I would watch them! I expect evenhanded dealing with conservative subjects, not regurgitated media hitjobs.
Here’s the thing. I don’t think Palin is that great! She is just the best of a very bad lot. You want to pretend that anyone who defends Palin is somehow a ‘cultist’ because they disagree with your opinion of her.
I dismiss someone as anti-Palin when all they notice are her bad points, real and imagined.
sharrukin on August 14, 2010 at 3:08 PM
And that’s just the thing. Poking fun occasionally can be fun/healthy… but if someone were intentionally poking to get higher posts or whatever … well, are they really part of the cause or just some trickster sitting back watching Rome burn?
MeatHeadinCA on August 14, 2010 at 3:09 PM
Heh. I think I’m in the same group as you. I’m kind of surprised I’m in this… but out of fairness, I’m getting tired of Palin people being called cultists simply because they find an extremely unscientific poll being posted on what some might consider a conservative blog.
MeatHeadinCA on August 14, 2010 at 3:13 PM
HotAir spends a considerable amount of their posts eviscerating MSNBC, CNN, ThinkProgress, MediaMatters, and all the other outfits that trash Palin. They don’t regurgitate anything.
Wrong. Cultists are those who attack you if you say anything negative about her. They’ve been doing it since the election ended. I think Palin is pretty damned good, second only to Allen West as the face I would most like to see in the oval office. Cultists, however, would disregard that and say that I hate Palin because I think her resigning as governor was a bad idea.
HotAir, as I linked above, was not only one of the first outlets to notice her as potential Veep material, but covered her good points months before she was announced as the choice. HotAir currently thinks her attitude towards marijuana legalization is a good thing, and it’s dismissed as an “attack”. This game of hopscotch to not be labeled a Palin hater is ridiculous.
MadisonConservative on August 14, 2010 at 3:17 PM
It has been a very good discussion for sure..:)
Dire Straits on August 14, 2010 at 3:18 PM
…they’re only cultists if they turn around and cheer and applaud a poll from the same outfit showing Obama in a negative light. Either polls are meaningless, or they’re not. Some people adapt their opinion depending on what the poll says, which is hypocritical.
MadisonConservative on August 14, 2010 at 3:18 PM
So you’d prefer completely sterile, dry posts unintended to draw comments or discussion?
MadisonConservative on August 14, 2010 at 3:20 PM
I don’t think GM is a good example..Their problems are mainly bad products and unions.
Dire Straits on August 14, 2010 at 3:04 PM
My point was not about any one company. It was about the concept that corpations in the 1950′s 60′s, 70′s 80′s where good for America. that companies like GM, ford, IBM, HP, Microsoft were viewd as American companies. that their good fortunes equaled good things for America as a whole. That as companies like GM or IBM grew the employment and wealth of America grew. These companies were chartered under American laws and regulations. Laws and regulations that were made by men and women voted into power by the rules of the US consitution.
That without that document these companies would have never formed, grew and prospered. It was at that time a symbotic relationship that what was good for IBM was good for America.
Now with the new world order, free trade, outsourcing WTO, etc it is no longer a truism that what is what is good for these companies is good for America. They no longer consider themselves American companies but global companies and thus work activly to get laws, rules and regulations passed to benefit them. They have no concern about the country as a whole. Be it free trade, open borders, low tarrifs, spread and acceptence of Islam, multculturlism to get their products in other markets, using american taxpayer money to build factories overseas, winning wars etc.
they care rightly so about and only about their profits. If it means screwing America to get bigger profits they will never understanding that when america falls and the ideals on which this country is founded their companies will be at the whims of all tin pot dictators around the globe.
unseen on August 14, 2010 at 3:20 PM
Precisely. It isn’t even that the poll is considered news (which it isn’t), but that the same sort of thing is rarely posted regarding other candidates.
I suppose the MSM savaging of Palin has sensitized a lot of people to this sort of thing, but I don’t think my perceptions are that far off. It is a running joke on Hotair, except its not that funny anymore. Too many on the right seem willing to go along with the MSM take on things.
sharrukin on August 14, 2010 at 3:21 PM
Yeah… but, here’s the thing. Who here is a Palin cultist. So far as I’ve been on this thread, the people that are complaining or nit-picking (I’m perhaps in the later category), have tried to make reasonable arguments. I’ve tried not to name call and such. Some reasonable points have been made.
MeatHeadinCA on August 14, 2010 at 3:21 PM
Sorry ..I totally missed your point..got it now.. NAFTA has created a problem for sure..:)
Dire Straits on August 14, 2010 at 3:24 PM
Isolationist!
MeatHeadinCA on August 14, 2010 at 3:25 PM
LOL!..I just hate that most of our goods are made in China ..:)
Dire Straits on August 14, 2010 at 3:28 PM
Yeah, though that’s not my biggest concern. :/
MeatHeadinCA on August 14, 2010 at 3:29 PM
Can you expand on your concern?
Dire Straits on August 14, 2010 at 3:30 PM
Chinese owned debt followed by bad policies in Asia…
MeatHeadinCA on August 14, 2010 at 3:31 PM
Ditto those concerns..plus the printing of money like it is a monopoly game is bad.
Dire Straits on August 14, 2010 at 3:33 PM
Precisely. It isn’t even that the poll is considered news (which it isn’t), but that the same sort of thing is rarely posted regarding other candidates.
sharrukin on August 14, 2010 at 3:21 PM
My biggest issue with the MSM is their framing of the narrative by ommission. not running stories that question their narrative, running stories that reinforce their narrative. I see allah and Ed doing the same with Palin and their posts on Palin. they will gleefully post on Levi’s latest stick but totally ignore the story of 2 Nh dems resinging from wishing death on Palin. they will post about SarahPac not giving alot of money to candidates but not report that mitt gave less or that the 1st quarter is not the time to give to candidates anyhow.
they will post stories on how Palin’s endorsement is a negative but say Carly’s win was due to a media buy instead of Palin’s endorsement.
the only time they post negative posts about other candidates is when it is a topic of the day and it seems they have no choice. they do not go out to find the negative stories on mitt like allah searches for the negative on Palin.
unseen on August 14, 2010 at 3:33 PM
Isolationist!
MeatHeadinCA on August 14, 2010 at 3:25 PM
LOl you say that like its a bad thing…..
seriously somewhere in the last 20 years maybe it was NAFTA maybe something else but somewhere the belief that putting america first, that making sure the country was taken care of before the companies became out of favor.
where and when the globalist’s views became the good and patrotism become bad is hard to say but it is not hard to see that our elites in government and companies across the country have accepted the globalist view hook line and sinker to the possible destruction of our great country.
unseen on August 14, 2010 at 3:39 PM
Nor have I.
MadisonConservative on August 14, 2010 at 3:40 PM
It is essentially a toned down MSM tactic. I honestly do not understand why conservatives let the media stake out the parameters of the debate and how they should be approached.
You saw the same thing with McCain during the debate. Obama’s middle name was taboo before the election and suddenly fine immediately after. This is accepting defeat before you even set out in the morning.
The media perceptions of Palin exist for a reason and that reason is to re-elect Obama. Why go along with it?
sharrukin on August 14, 2010 at 3:41 PM
So whacko is a term of endearment?
sharrukin on August 14, 2010 at 3:43 PM
The media perceptions of Palin exist for a reason and that reason is to re-elect Obama. Why go along with it?
sharrukin on August 14, 2010 at 3:41 PM
good question and the only answer I have come up with is because for the time it also helps get the result they want. I.e Palin not winning the nomination and their candidate of choice or even if they have no cnadidate and think Palin is a bad choice. It helps them sell their idea and thus they are happy to engage in the same tactic.
unseen on August 14, 2010 at 3:44 PM
That is very short-sighted. The GOP does the same thing so I shouldn’t be surprised. The right is essentially a dead duck if they cannot break the MSM dictating the terms of the debate.
sharrukin on August 14, 2010 at 3:49 PM
Look, I’m probably guilty of name calling … especially when it comes to Leftists, but err sharrukin has a point.
MeatHeadinCA on August 14, 2010 at 3:51 PM
Well, I do think the notion of isolation is bad … like North Korean isolation. I never understood why free-market capitalists that are opposed to say the UN are considered isolationists. They have no desire of isolating America when it comes to trade or even exchange of ideas… they just don’t like crony capitalism.
MeatHeadinCA on August 14, 2010 at 3:53 PM
“So you’d prefer completely sterile, dry posts unintended to draw comments or discussion?
MadisonConservative on August 14, 2010 at 3:20 PM”
Wouldn’t you admit there’s quite a bit of daylight between posting a poll of 83 Republicans who’ve smoked pot, and a “dry, sterile” blog?
cs89 on August 14, 2010 at 4:03 PM
Didn’t call you a cultist. Called you a wacko for claiming the headline is meant to turn conservatives off to her, and that it’s HotAir’s forte to do so. That’s why I pointed out HA’s early citing of Palin and boosting of her. Also, as the video shows, a good number of conservatives are in favor of pot legalization. The post should only turn people off if they are against pot, and as I linked above regarding Prop 19, big-name Dems are against it.
MadisonConservative on August 14, 2010 at 4:05 PM
Well, when you put it that way…
MeatHeadinCA on August 14, 2010 at 4:05 PM
During a time of news doldrums? Not really.
MadisonConservative on August 14, 2010 at 4:06 PM
Oh, come on… was it just me, of did HA not post a lot about Rangel Dancing, with Bloomberg (and the D establishment watching), his supporter giving a man the finger, and Sharpton comparing him to Jesus…
MeatHeadinCA on August 14, 2010 at 4:08 PM
I can’t even believe this is still an issue. I don’t know anyone left or right who hasn’t smoked pot. In fact, I know a lot of people who still do.
jonezee on August 14, 2010 at 4:09 PM
“During a time of news doldrums? Not really.
MadisonConservative on August 14, 2010 at 4:06 PM
”
Seriously?
cs89 on August 14, 2010 at 4:10 PM
And which would generate more interest and discussion? Again, do you want a dry, sterile blog?
MadisonConservative on August 14, 2010 at 4:11 PM
I don’t think anyone claimed you called him a cultist. My point was name-calling in general … and to be clear, I’m fine with humorous names … just seems like calling someone a wacko isn’t exactly enlightening (especially when they’re being fairly civil.)
MeatHeadinCA on August 14, 2010 at 4:11 PM
Congress is in recess. The oil spill has blown over. What’s the big news?
MadisonConservative on August 14, 2010 at 4:12 PM
Closer to barely.
MadisonConservative on August 14, 2010 at 4:13 PM
I’m actually not sure. I find it pretty sickening that Rangel is out dancing while DC is burning… and while he’s the reason. Perhaps I overestimate the anger towards people like him. Perhaps different people have different perceptions.
MeatHeadinCA on August 14, 2010 at 4:16 PM
Funny how Drudge and other sites seem to find something to post?
sharrukin on August 14, 2010 at 4:16 PM
MadCon, I know you’re a big allahpundit fan. But you’ve been around long enough to remember his near-constant posts on Palin after the election, to the point that Ed’s April Fool prank was all Palin picks.
You’re welcome to try to argue those were evenly balanced & “objective” if you want, but simple content analysis would show they were primarily negative about her.
That’s the history feeding perceptions here.
For myself, given that history a “positive” post about how a few pot-smoking Republicans like Palin…
It’s a crock.
cs89 on August 14, 2010 at 4:17 PM
Yeah, I probably wouldn’t have called you a bunny act. Still, you did call him a wacko after claiming you didn’t call people names (I think).
MeatHeadinCA on August 14, 2010 at 4:18 PM
Oh yeah. Look at that:
Current top headline is Obama being a pansy about the Ground Zero mosque. HA covered it. Christ, they covered a rumor coming from Mike Tyson. News is dead right now.
MadisonConservative on August 14, 2010 at 4:19 PM
Not interested in semantics. I respond in kind. If you think implying someone is a liar isn’t as bad as name-calling, you have misplaced priorities.
MadisonConservative on August 14, 2010 at 4:20 PM
I am conscience stricken that I implied that you might be an innocent bunny and would like to take this opportunity to apologize if such words and implications were deeply wounding to you!
sharrukin on August 14, 2010 at 4:23 PM
I won’t apologize for implying that you lied or at least stretched the truth, but I’m sorry if you’re offended.
It seems this thread has turned into a bash against you. Perhaps I should follow some of my own suggestions and move on … or at least point out some of your good qualities.
Either way, the conversation seems to have devolved. Perhaps one reason why such “controversial posts” receive so many posts.
Best
MeatHeadinCA on August 14, 2010 at 4:24 PM
Was Ed’s prank because of Allah’s attitude, or commenter’s perception of his attitude? Are you suggesting that the prank was solely done for Allah’s attention, or the commenter’s? Do the math. I’m not arguing that AP is Palin’s biggest fan. I’m arguing that he’s not an enemy of hers. Again, when Ed gave a reasoned, objective opinion that her resignation was a bad move, 20 pages of comments followed, excoriating Ed and accusing him of being a Palin-hating RINO. That was the ultimate demonstration of the fanaticism that has tinged the thought processes of some of Palin’s supporters.
MadisonConservative on August 14, 2010 at 4:26 PM
I didn’t complain about that. You complained about being called a wacko. You set the tone, and apparently are bent out of shape that you got the same in return. I’m used to it. You seem unable to take what you dish out.
MadisonConservative on August 14, 2010 at 4:27 PM
I didn’t say that you did.
MadisonConservative on August 14, 2010 at 4:28 PM
Actually you made a false claim that you were not name calling in this thread and in fact you were. Which sort of proves my point regarding your honesty… or lack of it!
sharrukin on August 14, 2010 at 4:30 PM
Well, I do think the notion of isolation is bad … like North Korean isolation. I never understood why free-market capitalists that are opposed to say the UN are considered isolationists. They have no desire of isolating America when it comes to trade or even exchange of ideas… they just don’t like crony capitalism.
MeatHeadinCA on August 14, 2010 at 3:53 PM
so true
unseen on August 14, 2010 at 4:32 PM
I don’t think Ed was publicly calling his co-blogger out as a “Palin-hater” or anything.
I do think the volume of ap’s Palin posts made it possible for such a prank to resonate. Additionally, I think it is fairly easy to demonstrate that a clear majority of those posts were negative and snarky.
Which is why I laugh at your characterization of this blog as striving to be “objective” on a “puffers like Palin” poll posting.
cs89 on August 14, 2010 at 4:33 PM
When I said “Nor have I”, I meant I hadn’t called anyone a cultist. MiC had asked that, and it was what I was addressing.
So you’re interested in playing gotcha games, and crying foul when someone returns your hostile attitude to you. How about you quit the innocent bunny act claiming to want to have a civil discussion.
MadisonConservative on August 14, 2010 at 4:35 PM
Snarky? Every one of his posts is snarky, about everyone. If you’re trying to argue that he does that solely for Palin, you’re being intellectually dishonest to an astounding degree.
MadisonConservative on August 14, 2010 at 4:36 PM
Actually a discussion with you is rather pointless due to the fact that you have most of the characteristics you claim to dislike in those who support Palin.
sharrukin on August 14, 2010 at 4:40 PM
You refuse to acknowledge daylight between a “dry, sterile” blog, and posting a poll of 83 Republicans who’ve smoked pot…
And accuse me of being “intellectually dishonest.”
Bwahahaha.
cs89 on August 14, 2010 at 4:41 PM
Apparently not.
MadisonConservative on August 14, 2010 at 4:41 PM
I disagreed with “quite a bit”.
MadisonConservative on August 14, 2010 at 4:42 PM
Oh come on, MC!!! You know AP only uses his double-secret-harsh-snark on Palin threads!
ladyingray on August 14, 2010 at 4:43 PM
The Shadow Snark! I completely forgot!
MadisonConservative on August 14, 2010 at 4:44 PM
Current top headline is Obama being a pansy about the Ground Zero mosque. HA covered it. Christ, they covered a rumor coming from Mike Tyson. News is dead right now.
MadisonConservative on August 14, 2010 at 4:19 PM
hmmm news items just on Palin, Nh dem resigns in disgrace, another leaves campaign over Palin insult. GOP candidate for MD insults Palin mouths MSM line. Palin tweets on wikileaks aiding and abetting enemy, tweets on Obama endorsing the ground zero mosque, new CNN poll showing Mitt and Palin tied for lead in 2012 nomination. Any topics are fine blooging material.
Instead we get Palin has potheads on her side, levi and bristol sign visitation agreement and Palin is a closet Libertarian.
Out of the three new items Allah choose to post two sows division among the GOp and one carries on the tabloid theme about Palin.
the ones he choose not to blog about protray Palin as a politican talking about the news of the day, protray Palin expounding on a topic the vast majority of the nation not only the GOP supports and shows Palin in a human light as a victim of hatred.
You be the judge of why allah posted on what he did. was it to 1) drive hits, 2)continue and reenforce a narrative, or 3) cause division within the GOP? or all three or none of the above or 2 out of three.
his history points to all three but you want to concentrate on the #1
unseen on August 14, 2010 at 4:44 PM
Oh, and allahpundit isn’t solely snarky about Palin.
However, he has probably posted more pieces about her than any other Republican since the 2008 election. Also, I would argue the degree of snark employed is often greater about her than many of his other subjects.
cs89 on August 14, 2010 at 4:45 PM
Palin’s tweets are news stories?
MadisonConservative on August 14, 2010 at 4:46 PM
Don’t forget again or I’ll call you a Palin-hating Liberal! AND take your guns! ;p
ladyingray on August 14, 2010 at 4:48 PM
Name another Republican with a higher profile in the media.
Thank you for being sensible.
Oh, for f**k’s sake.
MadisonConservative on August 14, 2010 at 4:48 PM
“cs89 on August 14, 2010 at 4:41 PM
I disagreed with “quite a bit”.
MadisonConservative on August 14, 2010 at 4:42 PM
”
Oh.
Well, that means you’re completely justified in accusing someone else of intellectual dishonesty, then.
/sarc.
cs89 on August 14, 2010 at 4:51 PM
I’m glad to know people who disagree with your vague generalizations based entirely on your opinion are intellectually dishonest. That attitude really makes you seem like a reasonable person.
MadisonConservative on August 14, 2010 at 4:53 PM
Palin’s tweets are news stories?
MadisonConservative on August 14, 2010 at 4:46 PM
they are when they are a response to a news story getting national coverage. like the wikileaks or ground mosque stories. the same as if Mitt made any comment about those stories would be news. Hell the fact that Mitt made a comment about anything would be news.
unseen on August 14, 2010 at 4:53 PM
Oooookay. I’m pretty sure tons of other pols tweet about news stories as well. Are their tweets news stories as well?
MadisonConservative on August 14, 2010 at 4:55 PM
“I’m glad to know people who disagree with your vague generalizations based entirely on your opinion are intellectually dishonest. That attitude really makes you seem like a reasonable person.
MadisonConservative on August 14, 2010 at 4:53 PM”
Care to show me my comment saying anything close to this?
cs89 on August 14, 2010 at 4:57 PM
Oooookay. I’m pretty sure tons of other pols tweet about news stories as well. Are their tweets news stories as well?
MadisonConservative on August 14, 2010 at 4:55 PM
when those “tons of other pols” became one of the national leaders of the oppposition party then yes their tweets will be news items as well.
unseen on August 14, 2010 at 5:00 PM
“I agree. That’s why I want to be able to “practice” law when I grow up!”
crr6
Del Dolemonte on August 14, 2010 at 5:07 PM
dont care what this poll says, but the best ticket for the republicans could have in would be
Romney/Thune 2012
camtheman7 on August 14, 2010 at 6:51 PM
omit “in”*
camtheman7 on August 14, 2010 at 6:51 PM
Jeeez, I haven’t been on since yesterday and can’t believe the pot smokers poll is still top story.
I don’t see it as a big negative for her.
Add up the numbers for those who have and those who haven’t and she leads the pack!
I can’t understand this bein a big deal except for maybe the 3% phony preacher, bad governor, Huckleberry Evangelical voters.
It wasn’t a big deal to the 52% that Pinnochio, the lyin “Cousin Eddie” currently inhabiting the Whitehouse was a bi-sexual, if not gay, coke usin, pot smokin, LSD imbibing, heavy drinker who hung out in a Black Marxist America Hating church for 20 years and was raised by avowed Communists and terrorists and that he was educated in Indonesia and still celebrates the Muslim holidays more than Christian or American ones today.
So whats the big deal if Sarahcuda smoked pot when it was legal?
She still has more balls than the NBA and is the only one givin the libs a headache daily and is 100% right on the direction this country needs to go and says so.
Where’s the rest of the pack?
Newt is slippin around the Iowa Sate Fair glad handin the God Old Boy Party and peddlin books, Santorum is slippin around Iowa somewhere doin something.
Pawley Boy has that annoying a$$ popup that talks to me every efin time I log in here,and says a few good things in his best John McCain style soft spoken voice on FOX once in a while.
Mitt, well Mitt must be out there buyin votes in future straw polls or diggin up dirt on all the above I can’t find him anywhere!
Oh I forgot Ron Paul , Paul WHO?, bring the troops home, lock the doors, don’t let anyone in or out, don’t trade with other nations, cut up those credit cards, and SMOKE DOPE!
Dang where’d I leave that bong 24 years ago?
Palin/West 2012 To Clean up the MESS!
dhunter on August 14, 2010 at 7:18 PM
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