It begins: McCain breaks with GOP on birthright citizenship amendment

posted at 8:05 pm on August 13, 2010 by Allahpundit

The primary’s 10 days away, he’s sitting on a 20-point lead and outspending Hayworth three to one, and he should win the general comfortably. He’s finally out of danger, in other words.

Which means, for the first time in a long time … it’s Maverick time.

McCain told The Associated Press that, despite a statement he made last week that was widely interpreted as meaning he supported hearings on the 14th Amendment, he remains unconvinced that a change in the Constitution is needed. Instead, he argued that fully securing the border would help to solve the problem.

“When I was asked … I said ‘Look, if senators want to have hearings then senators have hearings, that’s how the Senate works, but I’m not requesting hearings,’” McCain said in an interview Thursday. “I’m devoting all my efforts to getting the borders secure, and if you get the border secure than the difficulties and challenges with this issue of people coming across our border illegally to have children is dramatically reduced.”…

When asked directly if would support such an amendment, McCain said: “No. I mean, first of all we’d have to have hearings, we’d have to find out what the argument would be, but I certainly don’t at this time.”

I wonder if Lindsey Graham will be doing any “clarifying” of his position too or if he’ll keep pushing in the interests of retaining a bargaining chip for the big amnesty push. In fairness to McCain, even enforcement advocates as stalwart as Mark Krikorian don’t regard birthright citizenship as a priority. It’s not citizenship for their kids that’s the chief incentive for illegals, it’s jobs, so if deterrence is the name of the game, punishing businesses for hiring “the undocumented” will put a bigger dent in the inflow of illegals than anything else. It’s better politics too, of course — tinkering with the Fourteenth Amendment makes for bad headlines no matter the context — and it’ll spare us any further lectures from Bush’s former aides about what terrible people we are. Exit question: Keep it going for bargaining chip purposes, a la Graham, or go the McCain route?


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Maverick!

CyberCipher on August 13, 2010 at 8:07 PM

Oh, and just forget the dang fence.

Cicero43 on August 13, 2010 at 8:08 PM

So you can teach an old dog…new tricks.

Electrongod on August 13, 2010 at 8:08 PM

Very smart. That’s very smart for you, damn gringos.

try again later on August 13, 2010 at 8:09 PM

Something tells me that McCain and Lindsey will soon be resuming their romantic relationship.

Cicero43 on August 13, 2010 at 8:09 PM

buh bye! Take your chubby little daughter with you.

GO JD

400lb Gorilla on August 13, 2010 at 8:09 PM

Secure the border or change birthright citizenship.

Why can’t we do both?

Colbyjack on August 13, 2010 at 8:10 PM

Well, his position was always carefully worded with one finger testing the wind, natch.

What I find most hilarious (though not entirely surprising) is Huckachuck’s repositioning. Evidently in ’08 he was quite a fan and a lone voice on a divisive issue…now? Not so much.

Bee on August 13, 2010 at 8:11 PM

It’s not citizenship for their kids that’s the chief incentive for illegals, it’s jobs, so if deterrence is the name of the game, punishing businesses for hiring “the undocumented” will put a bigger dent in the inflow of illegals than anything else.

So the strain that anchor babies place on entitlement programs isn’t significant, then?

RachDubya on August 13, 2010 at 8:11 PM

“Which means, for the first time in a long time … it’s Maverick time.”

LOL!
And I assume that you mean that in the worst possible way.

Lawsy, I hated voting for this man! (I voted for Sarah!)
I don’t think he would have been any where near as horrible as Obama, but he would have been an awful POTUS.
McCain’s crazy.
Instead of babbling about strawberries, Sen. McQueeg is babbling about hearings!

Jenfidel on August 13, 2010 at 8:12 PM

As the sun rises……

rickyricardo on August 13, 2010 at 8:12 PM

CLOSE THE DAMN BORDERS!

kareyk on August 13, 2010 at 8:12 PM

“Breaks with the GOP”
What? Is repealing the 14th amendment really a GOP platform plank now? When did this happen? I need to wake up…. This nightmare is giving me sweats.

No, really, this is a GOP plank now?

Oxrock on August 13, 2010 at 8:13 PM

So the strain that anchor babies place on entitlement programs isn’t significant, then?

Exactly. There is such a massive disconnect from the realities on the ground and NO ONE is asking them specifically the connect the dots.

We are so screwed.

rickyricardo on August 13, 2010 at 8:13 PM

So when do we stop believing that this gang of gutless wonders are going to hold the line on Obama and his agenda?

They don’t mean a thing they say and yet… they keep getting re-elected. Is it possible that people really do get the government they deserve?

sharrukin on August 13, 2010 at 8:14 PM

Evidently in ‘08 he was quite a fan and a lone voice on a divisive issue…now? Not so much.

Bee on August 13, 2010 at 8:11 PM

As you would say, “Good Lord.”
It’s one thing to be a flip-flopper like Huckabee or Flip Flopney, but McCain’s a moving target.

Jenfidel on August 13, 2010 at 8:14 PM

This is overblown. No big deal.

I don’t think amending the Constitution is a realistic idea.

Mark Levin doesn’t think it makes any sense either.

If McCain and Levin agree on something involving immigration, that is significant since you won’t find many people more anti-McCain than Mark Levin.

Brian1972 on August 13, 2010 at 8:15 PM

**gritting teeth**

ctmom on August 13, 2010 at 8:15 PM

So the strain that anchor babies place on entitlement programs isn’t significant, then?

Exactly. There is such a massive disconnect between the politicos in DC and the realities on the ground you can’t see the other side of the canyon.

rickyricardo on August 13, 2010 at 8:16 PM

On the bright side, Ben Quayle running in AZ(3) as a Republican. His ad on TV calls Obama worst President EVAH !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4jiqYcUoOk

A$$ kickin’ yeah !

Jeff2161 on August 13, 2010 at 8:17 PM

I’m with Oxrock, I don’t think this breaking with the GOP. Everyone knows it’s just a bargaining chip that Gramnesty has thrown out there to make himself look tough. The word tough and Graham in the same sentence has got to be the biggest oxymoron in the world.

Cindy Munford on August 13, 2010 at 8:17 PM

Oh, and just forget the dang fence.

Cicero43 on August 13, 2010 at 8:08 PM

Teh awesome.

Monica on August 13, 2010 at 8:18 PM

So the strain that anchor babies place on entitlement programs isn’t significant, then?

RachDubya on August 13, 2010 at 8:11 PM

Nor, on education…
/s

Jeff2161 on August 13, 2010 at 8:19 PM

I’m with Oxrock, I don’t think this breaking with the GOP. Everyone knows it’s just a bargaining chip that Gramnesty has thrown out there to make himself look tough.

Cindy Munford on August 13, 2010 at 8:17 PM

What’s disgusting is that Grahamnesty is taking his position because he isn’t up for re-election and McCain is taking his “position” (such as it is) because he is up for re-election.
McVain obviously has his eye on all those Hispanic voters, legal or otherwise, in AZ.
I would like to see conservative Republicans take a stand on an issue and stay there based on firm principles, regardless of whether they are up for election or not!
We need some leadership, given the fact that the Precedent and his party leaders aren’t leading anybody.

Jenfidel on August 13, 2010 at 8:22 PM

Maverick is SO lucky that he’s in Arizona, not Wyoming. With all the wolves over-running the National Parks there, any animal that gets separated from the herd gets eaten.

My collie says:

He’s lucky he’s not a Demonrat, too. They eat their own, ya’ know.

CyberCipher on August 13, 2010 at 8:24 PM

Jenfidel on August 13, 2010 at 8:22 PM

There is no end to our supply of empty suits.

Cindy Munford on August 13, 2010 at 8:27 PM

On the bright side, Ben Quayle running in AZ(3) as a Republican. His ad on TV calls Obama worst President EVAH !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4jiqYcUoOk

A$$ kickin’ yeah !

Jeff2161 on August 13, 2010 at 8:17 PM

And the Lefties are wetting their pants in anticipation since they never abandoned their favorite canard that Daddy Quayle was stupid. Apparently, the Progs haven’t been paying attention to the pearls that have dripped from the lips of their hero Big O.

onlineanalyst on August 13, 2010 at 8:27 PM

Well Moe Lane and Charles Krauthammer aren’t exactly supportive either. In fact, this is not exactly a long held position on the part of the GOP. It was the Republicans who pushed for the 14th Amendment in the first place. It was to protect the rights of former slaves of course, but it was a Republican initiative back in the 19th century.

I think a lot of people are worried about the fact that people are obviously taking advantage of the birth right citizenship, but at the same time they are concerned about changing the constitution and any unintended consequences that might come about. And there is the tradition of the amendment as well.

But, I do think people are getting fed up with the status quo.

Terrye on August 13, 2010 at 8:27 PM

Well what do you know, liars lie.

tarpon on August 13, 2010 at 8:28 PM

The biggest con in this entire immigration debate is the forced connection between ‘comprehensive immigration reform’ and securing the border. They really should have nothing to do with one another.

The day after Congress approves CIR, Bammie could simply go back to not enforcing the border. One is a rewrite of a whole set of laws, the other is enforcement of existing law.

slickwillie2001 on August 13, 2010 at 8:28 PM

So the strain that anchor babies place on entitlement programs isn’t significant, then?

RachDubya on August 13, 2010 at 8:11 PM
Nor, on education…
/s

Jeff2161 on August 13, 2010 at 8:19 PM

Yeah. That little rural school that went bankrupt basically I know about that was forced to hire an expensive interpreter for the non-English speaking kids of the illegals who were employed at the local dairy doesn’t mean a thing.
Nah.
That stuff ain’t happenin’ here.
And oh yeah. Why would anyone come here to have a baby?
It’s not like they’d be allowed to stay here or anything.
Or like, get public assistance or free health care a la the emergency room or Meidcaid or anything.
Nahhhhh.

Badger40 on August 13, 2010 at 8:28 PM

Someone commented the other day that we are the only country that grants citizenship based on birth alone. I don’t know if it is true but doesn’t that open up the opportunity to say “Well all the other countries do it” that we heard over and over again during the health care debate?

Cindy Munford on August 13, 2010 at 8:30 PM

I. Loathe. John. McCain.

Thank you for your service John.

Other than that, rot in hell you bastard.

Midas on August 13, 2010 at 8:30 PM

Exit question: Keep it going for bargaining chip purposes, a la Graham, or go the McCain route?

Maverick(s). Liars who lie.

I don’t care what his poll numbers are today, Lindsey is in trouble and will get primaried. He just doesn’t know it yet. This is McCain’s swan song…but we all knew McCain would do this…he’ll shift far left right back into ObamaLand as soon as the primary is secure…which it is. So, no more border fence commercials for him…he’s now going to ‘reach out’ to the Democrats, because he feels more comfortable there.

As for Grahamnesty…I’m telling you…he’s screwed…he doesn’t know it yet because the pollsters haven’t picked it up somehow…but his exit from GOP politics is now assured. His only hope now is to switch parties and become a Democrat.

AUINSC on August 13, 2010 at 8:30 PM

!!!!!!!!!!!!McCQueeg’s Mutiny Begins Again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Madness Visible
===================

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zgeQmzV9kk&feature=related
============================================================

With a touch of Mr.Roberts,

who did it,who through my Palm tree,over the Fence…….

Mr Roberts Ending
====================

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASOLrKsyrFU

canopfor on August 13, 2010 at 8:32 PM

What? Is repealing the 14th amendment really a GOP platform plank now? When did this happen? I need to wake up…. This nightmare is giving me sweats.

No, really, this is a GOP plank now?

Oxrock on August 13, 2010 at 8:13 PM

Weak strawman, thanks for (feebly) playing though.

Midas on August 13, 2010 at 8:32 PM

“Breaks with the GOP”
What? Is repealing the 14th amendment really a GOP platform plank now? When did this happen? I need to wake up…. This nightmare is giving me sweats.

No, really, this is a GOP plank now?

Oxrock on August 13, 2010 at 8:13 PM

I had the same thought.

I’ve only heard is suggested for a week or two and suddenly it defines your conservatism?

Something that serious would take years of debate and discussion.

McCain is right!

Secure the border!

Then let’s have all those other discussions.

petunia on August 13, 2010 at 8:33 PM

This whole anchor baby thing is just a bargaining chip for the GOP establishment. They can be for it or against it, as they think best for their electoral chances, but when the final bill is written they will all be nuanced and inclusive and “anchor babies” will be sent down the memory hole.

Fred 2 on August 13, 2010 at 8:33 PM

WTF?! You mean, no more TAFKAM??!! No. I don’t believe it.

JimP on August 13, 2010 at 8:34 PM

Which means, for the first time in a long time … it’s Maverick time.

EXACTLY!

What a LOSER.

HondaV65 on August 13, 2010 at 8:34 PM

My collie says:

He’s lucky he’s not a Demonrat, too. They eat their own, ya’ know.

CyberCipher on August 13, 2010 at 8:24 PM

They ate McCain when he was no longer ‘convenient’ for them as well.

He’s such an unprincipled sh1t, he’s forgotten already. His only value to anyone is to the Dems, and only when he’s stabbing Republicans/conservatives in the back.

F@#$ you, McCain.

Midas on August 13, 2010 at 8:35 PM

Lets see,page #1,The Great Grand Purge List,
must make a note,have to move Graham over a tad,
and move McCain up a notch,mmmm,its a toss up,on
priority ranking,ain’t gonna matter anywho,mmmm,
McCain dissed SarahCuda,and Graham said,Jesus told
him to vote in Kagan,mmmm,

screw it,purge them both at the same time…done!
(snark).

canopfor on August 13, 2010 at 8:37 PM

“Breaks with the GOP”
What? Is repealing the 14th amendment really a GOP platform plank now? When did this happen? I need to wake up…. This nightmare is giving me sweats.

No, really, this is a GOP plank now?

Oxrock on August 13, 2010 at 8:13 PM

I had the same thought.

I’ve only heard is suggested for a week or two and suddenly it defines your conservatism?

Something that serious would take years of debate and discussion.

McCain is right!

Secure the border!

Then let’s have all those other discussions.

petunia on August 13, 2010 at 8:33 PM

Maybe you need to re-read the 14th amendment if you think that a repeal or rescinding of the 14th is what’s being called for or required.

An accurate reading proves that it applies the ‘anchor baby’ situation only to *LEGAL* immigrants who are under the legal jurisdiction of the US.

No repeal needed – only accurate reading and application.

Midas on August 13, 2010 at 8:38 PM

As you would say, “Good Lord.”
It’s one thing to be a flip-flopper like Huckabee or Flip Flopney, but McCain’s a moving target.

Jenfidel on August 13, 2010 at 8:14 PM

Oh, I know. I just thought the Huckabee flip was particularly funny.

Bee on August 13, 2010 at 8:38 PM

Friends…..the fence…..Fight…Fight….Fight….
with me……..

canopfor on August 13, 2010 at 8:39 PM

McCain, Graham, Boehner, McConnel…..

Need I go on?

The worst of the GOP old white men brigade.

jake-the-goose on August 13, 2010 at 8:40 PM

Hopefully the rest of them will shut the hell up about this loser political narrative.

They’ll be 80 Million LEGAL hispanics in the United States by 2020. If we ever want to win the Presidency again, we’ll have to learn to pick our spots.

AYNBLAND on August 13, 2010 at 8:41 PM

The 14th amendment in no way supports illegals having babies that become citizens. It doesn’t say that. It doesn’t mean that. It doesn’t imply that.

proconstitution on August 13, 2010 at 8:41 PM

Midas on August 13, 2010 at 8:38 PM

There seems to be a lot of debate about this and until it goes to court I imagine there will continue to be.

Cindy Munford on August 13, 2010 at 8:43 PM

My collie says:

He’s lucky he’s not a Demonrat, too. They eat their own, ya’ know.

CyberCipher on August 13, 2010 at 8:24 PM

CyberCipher: Speaking of `’Demonrat’,it reminds me of
*Shudder*, ‘DemonSheep’,ick !!!!!!:)

canopfor on August 13, 2010 at 8:44 PM

Since the Constitution took effect in 1789, there have been more than 11,000 attempts to amend it. But do you know how many have been ratified in those 221 years? Just 27, and that includes the Bill of Rights, the first 10.

Tav on August 13, 2010 at 8:45 PM

and if you get the border secure than the difficulties and challenges with this issue of people coming across our border illegally to have children is dramatically reduced

Remarkably backwards thinking, but I expect that from a politician.

It’s not citizenship for their kids that’s the chief incentive for illegals, it’s jobs, so if deterrence is the name of the game, punishing businesses for hiring “the undocumented” will put a bigger dent in the inflow of illegals than anything else.

This is an interesting assertion, but I guess that’s probably true. To believe that a bunch of poor, transient Mexicans are engaged in a multi-generational conspiracy to fundamentally alter the electorate of the U.S. by overwhelming the populace is pretty paranoid — but isn’t that exactly what conservatives are battling?

What do you call that? An accidental conspiracy?

Jaibones on August 13, 2010 at 8:46 PM

As for Grahamnesty…I’m telling you…he’s screwed…he doesn’t know it yet because the pollsters haven’t picked it up somehow…but his exit from GOP politics is now assured. His only hope now is to switch parties and become a Democrat.

AUINSC on August 13, 2010 at 8:30 PM

From your lips to GOD’S ears!

and from Michele M……SURPRISE………
HSINO: The $600 million Homeland Security In Name Only bill
Took the money, lol, from the FENCE APPROPRIATIONS!
Soooooooo, NO FENCE folks.
{btw, upon reading the bill I found that they paid for it only thru Nov. 2011}

lilspitfire on August 13, 2010 at 8:54 PM

What? Maverick? Who? Amnesty what?

MadisonConservative on August 13, 2010 at 8:54 PM

The 14th amendment in no way supports illegals having babies that become citizens. It doesn’t say that. It doesn’t mean that. It doesn’t imply that.

proconstitution on August 13, 2010 at 8:41 PM

That is what Mark Levin says, that it’s a matter of interpreting the amendment properly, rather than twisting it to allow for the instant citizen child for border jumpers. Thus, amending the amendment is not necessary, and would be highly unlikely to succeed anyway.

Don’t you need 2 3rds of the Congress, and 3 4ths of the States to ratify what Congress passed? That is a high bar, and I don’t think it would get through.

Goober Grahamnesty is full of crap.

Brian1972 on August 13, 2010 at 8:54 PM

Someone commented the other day that we are the only country that grants citizenship based on birth alone. I don’t know if it is true but doesn’t that open up the opportunity to say “Well all the other countries do it” that we heard over and over again during the health care debate?

Cindy Munford on August 13, 2010 at 8:30 PM

Cindy Munford: Correction,Canada is the other country,
that does the same as the US of A!!
=====================================================

Made in America: Myths & Facts about Birthright Citizenship

http://immigrationpolicy.pairsite.com/perspectives/made-america-myths-facts-about-birthright-citizenship

I`m banking on,that this is an Activist Website!:)
=======================================================

BirthRight International

Birthright began in Toronto, Ontario, Canada, in 1968, when Louise Summerhill, a busy housewife and mother of seven children, felt something should be done to help women through an unplanned pregnancy. The grassroots response to her idea was overwhelming, and the Toronto chapter quickly grew into Birthright International, the world’s first international crisis pregnancy service.

http://www.birthright.org/htmpages/index.htm

canopfor on August 13, 2010 at 8:58 PM

How now black cow Arizona?

listens2glenn on August 13, 2010 at 9:00 PM

Why in the hell would any SANE person want to turn having a child into a bureaucratic nightmare of establishing legal status? What problem are people trying to fix? Anchor babies? Well, a child must turn 21 before he can sponsor a parent and the parent has to show a “legal entry” into the USA. People please inform yourselves.

Chekote on August 13, 2010 at 9:01 PM

McShamnestye can tapdance on one foot while kicking himself in the butt with the other.

It’s M.C. Maverick Time!

profitsbeard on August 13, 2010 at 9:03 PM

Changing the Constitution wasn’t going to happen anyway. So it’s not like it’s healthcare where 1 vote could have made a difference.

Tasha on August 13, 2010 at 9:08 PM

No repeal needed – only accurate reading and application.

Midas on August 13, 2010 at 8:38 PM

The 14th amendment in no way supports illegals having babies that become citizens. It doesn’t say that. It doesn’t mean that. It doesn’t imply that.

proconstitution on August 13, 2010 at 8:41 PM

1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

Now I guess you can take that as if you’re born here, no matter what the circumstances, you’re a citizen.
But that does not mean their parents get to stay if they are illegal.
And notice we do not deny them any service or right that a citizen enjoys.
But there is nothing here that gives the citizen a ‘right’ to social services for their parents to take care of them.
The parents can go & if they wish to leave their child, then I suppose they can.
But we are not obligated to take on the rest of a family just bcs one of them was born here.
Just like when you marry a foreigner that does not automatically give you the right to bring that person here legally.
Notice the last sentence there:
No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws

This does not confer Const. rights upon non-citizens.

Badger40 on August 13, 2010 at 9:09 PM

No repeal needed – only accurate reading and application.

Midas on August 13, 2010 at 8:38 PM

The 14th amendment in no way supports illegals having babies that become citizens. It doesn’t say that. It doesn’t mean that. It doesn’t imply that.

proconstitution on August 13, 2010 at 8:41 PM

Awww, NOOO! Another fight just like 2nd Amendment only with less well defined plaintiffs.

Okay, where is our NRA equivalent? We have only 235 years to do this.

And BTW my copy of our constitution agrees with you.

As for McLame; just go away RINO. You are no longer trusted. It’s what happens with aisle crossers.

Caststeel on August 13, 2010 at 9:09 PM

Our country’s economy is in the crapper and we’re worried about citizenship amendments??? Is there a point when people stop thinking about the squeaky front door and take note that the house is on fire?
For God’s sake, people, focus! Maybe it’s time to take Mitch Daniel’s advice. (The advice he gave before he remembered he was a politician and declared the truce over)

Scranton on August 13, 2010 at 9:15 PM

Scranton on August 13, 2010 at 9:15 PM

Sorry. How about this OT?
Bambi Hussein supports building a victory mosque at Ground Zero. Speech at whatever the fast breaking dinner during Ramadan is called.
I forget, what number outrage is this?

Caststeel on August 13, 2010 at 9:21 PM

McShamnestye can tapdance on one foot while kicking himself in the butt with the other.

It’s M.C. Maverick Time!

profitsbeard on August 13, 2010 at 9:03 PM

profitsbeard: A blast from the past,thanks for the laugh!:)

canopfor on August 13, 2010 at 9:21 PM

McCain is right.

alice on August 13, 2010 at 9:21 PM

Re: Last

And the PLO rep was invited.

Caststeel on August 13, 2010 at 9:22 PM

McCain is right.

alice on August 13, 2010 at 9:21 PM

Well, he is in good company…Obama, Pelosi and Reid agree.

AUINSC on August 13, 2010 at 9:22 PM

McCain is right.

alice on August 13, 2010 at 9:21 PM

To be honest, I don’t think we do need a Const. Amendment. So in that sense, he is right.
But why does he want to secure the border now when he didn’t want to before?
That is my burning question.

Badger40 on August 13, 2010 at 9:24 PM

It’s a bridge too far for Mr. Amnesty.

NoLeftTurn on August 13, 2010 at 9:25 PM

McCain is right.

alice on August 13, 2010 at 9:21 PM

Poor John. He has said many things that are right but perform wrong. Judgment and discrimination used to mean an ability. McCain has no more credibility because he means well. He has not done well.

Caststeel on August 13, 2010 at 9:28 PM

Bringing this up is a stupid and shady political calculation by Grahamnesty anyway. We don’t need to mess with the constitution if we just enforce our current immigration laws on the books and promote assimilation.

Daemonocracy on August 13, 2010 at 9:31 PM

It’s long past time for Sen. McAnus to just go the hell away.

Dave R. on August 13, 2010 at 9:32 PM

What the hell is wrong with you voters in Arizona? JD Hayworth is a hell of a lot better than this prick!

Winebabe on August 13, 2010 at 9:38 PM

McCain has no more credibility because he means well. He has not done well.

Caststeel on August 13, 2010 at 9:28 PM

Beautifully worded.

Badger40 on August 13, 2010 at 9:38 PM

Disgusting.

petefrt on August 13, 2010 at 9:39 PM

Taqiyya in American politics…
Now that’s progress.

jerrytbg on August 13, 2010 at 9:44 PM

The 14th Amendment was to guarantee citizenship to those freed slaves born in the country but who were left in legal limbo after the Civil War.

It has nothing to do with instant citizenship for those babies whose mothers came here illegally since the Civil War.

Interpreting the Constitution strictly is all that is needed.

Why didn’t McCain say something like this instead of playing along with the Dem meme?

Because he’s a pandering schmuck.

profitsbeard on August 13, 2010 at 9:47 PM

He’s right on this. We don’t need a birthright citizenship amendment if we secure our borders. Lindsey Graham’s support of the amendment is a cheap ploy for political cover because he knows it will never pass. McCain’s not the opportunist here, Graham is.

Caiwyn on August 13, 2010 at 9:48 PM

In fairness to McCain, we are talking about a change to the Constitution, and while there are a few Republicans who are strongly in favor of the change, the headline here is misleading, as the change is not yet the “Republican position.”

Phil Byler on August 13, 2010 at 9:52 PM

McCain’s not the opportunist here, Graham is.

Caiwyn on August 13, 2010 at 9:48 PM

It’s not an either/or. They are both opportunist’s of the worst sort.

sharrukin on August 13, 2010 at 9:52 PM

So, Reid was right… before…

Come on. I loathe McAmnesty. I really do. But, come on… Reid was for “interpreting” this and writing a law to prohibit anchor baby’s. That alone should tell you something. This is the wrong ploy at this time. And that’s all it is. And it hurts the GOP. This is not “breaking from the GOP”. It’s being sensible and recognizing it for what it is…A bad idea AT THIS TIME.

Oxrock on August 13, 2010 at 9:53 PM

It’s long past time for Sen. McAnus to just go the hell away.

Dave R. on August 13, 2010 at 9:32 PM

What are you, an NVA guard sticking a shiv in your fellow American? St. McAnus? That’s f*^ked up. Shame on you.

AYNBLAND on August 13, 2010 at 9:55 PM

As Cicero indicated…we can no longer afford the traitors among us…

jerrytbg on August 13, 2010 at 10:11 PM

Please AZ dump McShame you can’t be this dumb, please he will ef us good as its his last dance please dump the old fool.

dhunter on August 13, 2010 at 10:18 PM

Bringing this up is a stupid and shady political calculation by Grahamnesty anyway. We don’t need to mess with the constitution if we just enforce our current immigration laws on the books and promote assimilation.

Daemonocracy on August 13, 2010 at 9:31 PM

Absolutely. This proposal was an exercise in pure unadulterated cynicism on the part of that slimeball Graham. The notion that Lindsey Graham speaks for the entire GOP as the Dems are now suggesting, and further that the Lindsey amendment to the 14th amendment is now the official GOP position is a crock – a DEM concocted crock.

McCain’s not going against the GOP on this, just his BFF Graham and now it’s getting hard not to believe that this whole damn thing was a setup.

leilani on August 13, 2010 at 10:28 PM

The more things change, the more they stay the same.

McVain is slipping back into senility, aka, RINOism.

madmonkphotog on August 13, 2010 at 10:48 PM

Is it possible that people really do get the government they deserve?

sharrukin on August 13, 2010 at 8:14 PM

Yes.

manwithblackhat on August 13, 2010 at 10:49 PM

What are you, an NVA guard sticking a shiv in your fellow American? St. McAnus? That’s f*^ked up. Shame on you.

AYNBLAND on August 13, 2010 at 9:55 PM

While I respect and appreciate John McCain’s service to this country in Vietnam, I also understand that was nearly a half century ago.

In the years since, the democrats have shoved this country right to the very edge of the proverbial financial abyss.

But they didn’t do it alone.

They had plenty of RINO help, and sadly, McCain was one of those RINOs.

Our Treasury Department is on the brink of buying its own T-bills.

Do you have any idea what that is going to mean?

It could very well push this nation beyond the point of no return, and that is assuming we haven’t passed it already.

It’s long past time to stop collaborating in any way, shape, or form with those who are working to destroy this nation as it was founded.

We are nearly at that point, far closer than most people realize, and sadly, John McCain did much to help bring us to it.

Dave R. on August 13, 2010 at 10:57 PM

If the border is actually secured and this is still a problem then get back to me. I think this is a desperate idea born of the futility of lack of action by the feds.

lizzie beth on August 13, 2010 at 11:10 PM

I gat knocked for a tirade I did over this guy. Some conservative friends like him and hated what I was saying. I write it here.

One thought: It is his “home” state and he let it reach this point.

If he had won the Vietnam war, I still say toss the man out.

IlikedAUH2O on August 13, 2010 at 11:35 PM

I don’t get it. You don’t need to amend the Constitution to enforce the 14th Amendment since section 5 of the 14th already says:

“Section. 5. The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.”

What’s so frickin’ difficult to comprendo?

bannedbyhuffpo on August 13, 2010 at 11:41 PM

Please AZ dump McShame you can’t be this dumb, please he will ef us good as its his last dance please dump the old fool.

dhunter on August 13, 2010 at 10:18 PM

Who says they can’t be this dumb? Didn’t they elect Napolitano?

Eren on August 13, 2010 at 11:49 PM

He will be the most impertinent maverick after he wins this time. Then he won’t have anything to watch for. The poor citizens of AZ and the U.S. will be scroomed royally.

This is the only time to stop this. How can the citizens of AZ not see what is about to roll over them?

Schadenfreude on August 13, 2010 at 11:52 PM

I respect McCain’s service and sacrifice, he gave far more than any of us can even imagine. That does not however give him unlimited moral authority for the rest of his life to govern us as he sees fit.

slickwillie2001 on August 14, 2010 at 12:08 AM

John McCain is past time for retirement.

Metanis on August 14, 2010 at 12:17 AM

Bee,

I noticed your article about Mike Huckabee supporting the repeal of the 14th Amendment and then his position this week on NOT supporting the repeal of the 14th Amendment and Jenfidel calling Huckabee a flip flopper.

The original article you cited was quoted by Mr. Gilchrist and he was wrong in his assumption. I don’t have the link (sorry), so I’m supplying the response by Huckabee to Mr. Gilchrist’s assumption that Huckabee was for this repeal. If you know anything about Mike Huckabee, you would know that he knows better than try to amend the Constitution on this issue. It has been tryed and failed three times, and you need 3/4 of the states to ratify the change two different times. There is no way that would happen and Mike Huckabee knows that. He doesn’t believe in punishing the children for what their parents have done, so he would never have agreed to try and appeal the 14th Amendment. See below:

2008 Article

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/200 … tizenship/
Quote:
Mike Huckabee yesterday contradicted his own top immigration surrogate, announcing he will not support a constitutional amendment to end birthright citizenship for children born in the United States to illegal aliens.

It was a stark reversal after The Washington Times reported that James Gilchrist, founder of the Minuteman Project, said Mr. Huckabee promised to pursue an amendment to the Constitution. In an article in yesterday’s editions, Mr. Huckabee’s spokeswoman did not challenge the former Arkansas governor’s statements to Mr. Gilchrist and said the two men shared the same goals on immigration.

But by yesterday afternoon, Mr. Huckabee had backed away from that position.

“I do not support an amendment to the Constitution that would prevent children born in the U.S. to illegal aliens from automatically becoming American citizens. I have no intention of supporting a constitutional amendment to deny birthright citizenship,” Mr. Huckabee said in a statement posted on his campaign Web site.

The Times reported that Mr. Gilchrist, in a half-hour conversation while campaigning with Mr. Huckabee last week in Iowa, pinned down the Republican presidential candidate on various immigration stances, including how he would address what most legal scholars see as the 14th Amendment’s guarantee of citizenship to any person born in the United States, except for diplomatic situations.

Mr. Gilchrist said Mr. Huckabee promised to bring a test case to the Supreme Court to challenge the matter, and also would press Congress to pass an amendment to the Constitution.

In an interview with CNN, the candidate said his campaign was not contacted about the story: “It was disappointing the reporter who filed the report never bothered to contact our campaign,” he said.

But Mr. Huckabee’s spokeswoman, Kirsten Fedewa, did talk to The Times for the article. She did not challenge any of Mr. Gilchrist’s statements at the time, and was quoted as saying Mr. Huckabee and Mr. Gilchrist were “united by a mutual desire to end illegal immigration and are political allies toward that end.”

In a statement to The Times yesterday evening, Mr. Huckabee acknowledged his campaign was asked about the story.

“I was asked to respond to questions by The Washington Times about my position regarding presidential pardons for imprisoned U.S. Border Patrol agents Ignacio Ramos and Jose Compean and about personal e-mail correspondence by one of my supporters,” Mr. Huckabee said. “We responded to those questions.

VFT on August 14, 2010 at 12:19 AM

John McCain, you disgust me, but you can’t surprise me.

disa on August 14, 2010 at 12:20 AM

BTW, only Newt Gingrich of the top tier of the Republican candidates for 2012 has spoken regarding this issue. He favors repealing the 14th Amendment.

On Wednesday Mike Huckabee gave an interview with NPO and told them he did NOT favor repealing the 14th Amendment. He doesn’t wait for the other candidates to decide what position he should take. He is a leader and isn’t afraid to make the decisions that might not be popular.

After Huckabee refused to support repealing this amendment, today Fiorni and Meg Whitman have both stated they do not favor repealing the amendment either. Where are Palin and Romney on this issue?

VFT on August 14, 2010 at 12:26 AM

VFT on August 14, 2010 at 12:26 AM

As governor of Arkansas, Huckabee dramatically increased state spending. During his two-term tenure, spending increased by more than 65 percent — at three times the rate of inflation.

The number of government workers increased by 20 percent, and the state’s debt services increased by nearly $1 billion. Huckabee financed his spending binge with higher taxes.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,316496,00.html

sharrukin on August 14, 2010 at 12:34 AM

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