NBC/WSJ poll shows Americans rejecting “Recovery Summer” meme

posted at 8:47 am on August 12, 2010 by Ed Morrissey

Oh, those media outlets and their skewed samples!  One has to assume that the pollsters behind the new NBC/WSJ survey figured that giving a nine-point edge to Democrats in their sample (without leaners; with leaners, seven points) would buffer the bad news that was sure to come in the midst of “Recovery Summer.”  If so, they must have been mightily disappointed:

Underpinning the gloom: Nearly two-thirds of Americans believe the economy has yet to hit bottom, a sharply higher percentage than the 53% who felt that way in January.

The sour national mood appears all-encompassing and is dragging down ratings for the GOP too, suggesting voters above all are disenchanted with the political establishment in Washington. Just 24% express positive feelings about the Republican Party, a new low in the 21-year history of the Journal’s survey. Democrats are only slightly more popular, but also near an all-time low.

The results likely foreshadow a poor showing in November’s mid-term for Democrats, whose leaders had hoped the public would grow more optimistic about the economy and, as a result, more supportive of the party agenda. Now, despite the weak Republican numbers, the survey shows frustrated voters on the left are less interested than impassioned voters on the right to in the election.

Gee, do you think that the negative feelings towards the GOP might have something to do with overpolling Democrats?  Barack Obama won the popular vote in 2008 with just a seven-point margin, and yet the partisan split in this poll without leaners is 30/21 for Democrats, with 42% identifying as independents.  That’s an absurd sample; it doesn’t even match the electorate in November 2008, let alone the electorate of mid-2010. The GOP scores above its sample in the survey by three points, and the Democrats also score above its sample by three points.

Here’s a fun gauge: the sample shows a 2008 vote of 40/32 for Obama — with six percent claiming they voted for someone else.  Huh?  Was Ross Perot running in 2008?  Seventeen percent didn’t vote at all.  I’d bet that most of the six percent voted for Obama and don’t want to admit it, which demonstrates the rather substantial skew in this poll.

Just to remind readers (and media pollsters), Gallup found the partisan gap in April to be a single point, when considering leaners, 46/45.  This poll has it 42/35.

So how did Obama do with the big head start?  Not well.  His overall approval is still underwater, 47/48, and generally gets worse from there:

  • Economy – 44/52, a new low
  • Afghanistan – 44/45, also a new low
  • Iraq – 49/40, down from 53/39 in March

Michelle Obama doesn’t do well, either, in a poll taken in the middle of her Spanish holiday.  Her approval rating fell to 50%, which was only a drop of five points since January. Compared to Nancy Pelosi, though, she’s Miss Popularity.  Pelosi’s popularity is 21% — in a poll that has 30% of its sample from Democrats.  Harry Reid fares even worse, scoring an anemic 11%, managing to fall below the popularity of Congress overall.

With a nine-point advantage, Democrats manage to win the generic Congressional ballot too … by one point, 43/42.  That’s one point above their sample size when including leaners, while Republicans score seven points above their size in the sample.  Even the sample size can’t save Democrats from reality on the “better off” question.  Forty percent of respondents say the country is worse off than when Obama became president, while only 31% say it’s improved; 28% say “same place.”  Sixty percent have little confidence that Obama has the right goals and policies to lead the nation, while 63% have little confidence in his abilities to lead the economy, while 64% say we haven’t hit bottom in the economy yet.

Not even skewed polls can rescue Obama and the Democrats.  They’re drowning in Recovery Summer.


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Not even skewed polls can rescue Obama and the Democrats. They’re drowning in Recovery Summer.

And the Rs we elect in November better be good swimmers or they will just be chum in the water come 2012.

publiuspen on August 12, 2010 at 8:51 AM

Racism is alive and well if you don’t think Recovery Summer is working.

Good Lt on August 12, 2010 at 8:51 AM

Not even skewed polls can rescue Obama and the Democrats. They’re drowning in Recovery Summer.

Let’s celebrate…now, laugh WITH them…not at them…ok!?

ted c on August 12, 2010 at 8:52 AM

The Labor Department says first-time claims for jobless benefits edged up by 2,000 to a seasonally adjusted 484,000. Analysts had expected a drop. That’s the highest total since the week of Feb. 20.

Initial claims have now risen in three of the last four weeks and are close to their high point for the year of 490,000, reached in late January. The four-week average, which smooths volatility, soared by 14,250 to 473,500, also the highest since late February.

WoosterOh on August 12, 2010 at 8:53 AM

It’s not like I wouldn’t love to participate in a Recovery Summer but they’re doing it wrong.

Cindy Munford on August 12, 2010 at 8:54 AM

I am expecting some of these congressional races that are polling tightly to go 60-40 Republican on Nov 2.

Think about it. They are spotting Democrats 9 points in these polls and still can’t get Obama’s numbers above water. What happens when you level the playing field and factor in all of the enthusiasm Republicans are feeling about voting right now? its going to be a slaughter.

tflst5 on August 12, 2010 at 8:54 AM

This probably accounts for the obvious attempt by Obama’s minions to start portraying him as “moderate.” Example , the rant by Gibbs attacking “liberals” for expecting Obama to close the Pentagon and have Canadian style health care. Nice try Gibbsy. Don’t think we don’t know this entire thing was planned by the White House.

sandee on August 12, 2010 at 8:55 AM

The Labor Department says first-time claims for jobless benefits edged up by 2,000 to a seasonally adjusted 484,000. Analysts had expected a drop. That’s the highest total since the week of Feb. 20.

Initial claims have now risen in three of the last four weeks and are close to their high point for the year of 490,000, reached in late January. The four-week average, which smooths volatility, soared by 14,250 to 473,500, also the highest since late February.

WoosterOh on August 12, 2010 at 8:53 AM

But just remember, Obama brought us back from the brink.

/sarc

Doughboy on August 12, 2010 at 8:56 AM

Get your very own Recovery Summer road sign here.

trapeze on August 12, 2010 at 9:01 AM

Time to spend more money!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

txag92 on August 12, 2010 at 9:01 AM

DRUDGE: JOBLESS CLAIMS JUMP TO HIGHEST SINCE FEB

Teachable moment.

petefrt on August 12, 2010 at 9:04 AM

From a Yahoo commentor:

The unemployment rate under Reagan climbed to 10.6% during his first two years. That is one full point higher than it is now under Obama. The economy today is orders of magnitude better than it was two years ago when Obama took office.

txag92 on August 12, 2010 at 9:04 AM

How this guy’s numbers aren’t in the 30s by now is beyond me.

Obama at 47% or 48% is astonishing.

Orwell would be impressed.

mankai on August 12, 2010 at 9:05 AM

It’s not like I wouldn’t love to participate in a Recovery Summer but they’re doing it wrong.

Cindy Munford on August 12, 2010 at 8:54 AM

They’re liberals! What did you expect?

Oldnuke on August 12, 2010 at 9:06 AM

Yesterday I attended a townhall with our US House Congressman, a Republican. We’re a fairly conservative district in a blue dog state. Guess what? The diner was standing room only–people were fired up, clapping, booing Obama’s agenda–and the only table of lefties were jeered and told to “SIT DOWN AND SHUT UP!” several times.

The Congressman told of a time when he would hold these meetings and five people would show up.

NBC can massage the numbers any way they want; people have not forgotten, and many are counting the days until Nov. 2nd. The House will flip, and maybe by a large margin.

Grace_is_sufficient on August 12, 2010 at 9:06 AM

Just 24% express positive feelings about the Republican Party, a new low in the 21-year history of the Journal’s survey.

nbc/wsj poll shows Americans pouring love on the gop.

sesquipedalian on August 12, 2010 at 9:06 AM

But just remember, Obama brought us back from the brink.

/sarc

Doughboy on August 12, 2010 at 8:56 AM

Takes real chutzpa for Øbama to say something like that. If this is ‘back from the brink’, I’d hate to see what ‘over the edge’ looks like.

petefrt on August 12, 2010 at 9:08 AM

nbc/wsj poll shows Americans pouring love on the gop.

sesquipedalian on August 12, 2010 at 9:06 AM

waste of bits.

Inanemergencydial on August 12, 2010 at 9:08 AM

“This is a big f-in’ deal.”

NoDonkey on August 12, 2010 at 9:09 AM

How this guy’s numbers aren’t in the 30s by now is beyond me.

mankai on August 12, 2010 at 9:05 AM

No, you seem to understand it very well. You posted the answer.

Orwell

The liberal media just lies about it.

Oldnuke on August 12, 2010 at 9:09 AM

nbc/wsj poll shows Americans pouring love on the gop.

sesquipedalian on August 12, 2010 at 9:06 AM

Great point! Looks like November is gonna be great for the Democrats.

/s

mankai on August 12, 2010 at 9:10 AM

Here’s a fun gauge: the sample shows a 2008 vote of 40/32 for Obama — with six percent claiming they voted for someone else. Huh?

These are the same mindless cows who were lead to slaughter under the hopey changey thingy. The ones who are surreptitiously scraping the ho’bama biden stickers off their car or claiming it was there when they bought it! The true reality TV generation automatons, mindless drones who have the right to vote.

PatriotPete on August 12, 2010 at 9:13 AM

No, no, no…. they meant IT’S MICHELLE’S RECOVERY SUMMER !

stenwin77 on August 12, 2010 at 9:13 AM

Even the Democratic candidates don’t want to be seen with Obama.

kingsjester on August 12, 2010 at 9:13 AM

Regarding the Presidential split, it’s even worse. Taking just those that claimed they voted in the election (itself far higher than the actual turnout of 63.0% of the eligible population) into account, depending on the rounding error, self-professed Obama voters had between a 8.54-point and 10.98-point advantage over self-professed McCain voters.

Obama won the popular vote by 7.25 points over McCain, with every other counted vote accounting for 1.42% of the votes cast.

steveegg on August 12, 2010 at 9:15 AM

The differences with Reagan are in the plan. Reagan had to get a tax cut through a Democratic House and he had only a slight majority in the Senate.

Tax cuts (and deregulation) take time to work as they eventually lead to investment which eventually leads to hiring. We all knew that. Obama and the Dems passed a $1 Trillion spending bill that was supposed to IMMEDIATELY improve unemployment figures. It has done nothing of the sort… and they have no Plan B.

Also Reagan was dealing with sky-high interest rates and inflation, neither of which are a problem for Obama.

Tax cuts are a long-term, real solution to a stagnant economy. Borrowing kajillions from the Chinese to buy votes is short-sighted, foolish and only mortgages the future against real growth.

mankai on August 12, 2010 at 9:15 AM

petefrt on August 12, 2010 at 9:04 AM

Later today they will announce that unemployment went from 9.5% to 9.4%, YAY! We’ve turned the corner!!!!!

Cindy Munford on August 12, 2010 at 9:16 AM

you’re aware the the NBC/WSJ poll is a bi-partisan poll conducted by a Republican-only firm and Democrat-only firm?

maybe it was the Dem’s turn to lead on that poll…

just sayin

Butters on August 12, 2010 at 9:16 AM

Takes real chutzpa for Øbama to say something like that. If this is ‘back from the brink’, I’d hate to see what ‘over the edge’ looks like.

petefrt on August 12, 2010 at 9:08 AM

Well he has told some crowds that we ain’t seen nuthin’ yet.

Doughboy on August 12, 2010 at 9:16 AM

Bbbbbbut I was told that there was going to be a hard pivot to jobs and the economy.

FAIL!

30 pcs of silver on August 12, 2010 at 9:17 AM

Even the Democratic candidates don’t want to be seen with Obama.

kingsjester on August 12, 2010 at 9:13 AM

the left is falling to pieces. If the leader of the D party sees only himself as a D Democrat, then there is trouble. It’s every Donk for himself/herself/itself….

ted c on August 12, 2010 at 9:17 AM

With all the bad news floating around it amazes me that Obama’s positive rating is still so high.
What could possibly happen to make it go lower?

Obama and the Democrats must be thinking that his rating is not so bad considering all the bad news.

albill on August 12, 2010 at 9:17 AM

What’s even more frightening about this skewed poll is the fact that there are still on-board with this deadwood. I keep hearing my parents in my ear saying “If Johnny jumped off a building would you?”…guess there are still those who would jump off a building if the media and the one said too.

PatriotPete on August 12, 2010 at 9:17 AM

Polling 1000 adults.

Inanemergencydial on August 12, 2010 at 9:20 AM

Gee, do you think that the negative feelings towards the GOP might have something to do with overpolling Democrats?

Everything you said about over polling Democrats is true, but some of us who regularly vote Republican are also discussed with the party because of all the RINOs in position of prominence, starting with the last two Republican Presidents and going down to the district committee in upstate NY who last year unanimously nominated a person for congress who would rather elect a liberal Democrat to congress than a Conservative.

burt on August 12, 2010 at 9:20 AM

Prediction: Republicans will be swept into office in an epic landslide. The MFM will breathlessly report on it for weeks and weeks…….. and then start blaming every bad thing that happens on the “Republican lead Congress”.

LibTired on August 12, 2010 at 9:21 AM

We’ll get a recovery summer . . . in summer of 2013, once the new tax cuts and the new spending cuts of the new president have gone into effect.

Not until then.

AZCoyote on August 12, 2010 at 9:21 AM

sesquipedalian on August 12, 2010 at 9:06 AM

I think this is one of those “I may be slow but I’m ahead of you” moments in time.

Cindy Munford on August 12, 2010 at 9:21 AM

I wonder what Rasmussen has him at today. I predict -17%.

ted c on August 12, 2010 at 9:22 AM

From a Yahoo commentor:

The unemployment rate under Reagan climbed to 10.6% during his first two years. That is one full point higher than it is now under Obama. The economy today is orders of magnitude better than it was two years ago when Obama took office.

txag92 on August 12, 2010 at 9:04 AM

Yeah, and I recall Reagan poured a trillion $ into the economy and raised taxes but no help. He lost re-election to Mondale in ’84 who then put us on the longest economic expansion ever!

cartooner on August 12, 2010 at 9:22 AM

and then start blaming every bad thing that happens happened over the past two years on the “Republican lead Congress”.

fify

Y-not on August 12, 2010 at 9:22 AM

Obamaville road sign available here.

Copy it and post it wherever you like.

trapeze on August 12, 2010 at 9:24 AM

Prediction: Republicans will be swept into office in an epic landslide. The MFM will breathlessly report on it for weeks and weeks…….. and then start blaming every bad thing that happens on the “Republican lead Congress”.

LibTired on August 12, 2010 at 9:21 AM

One small problem with that strategery by the drive-bys. What if the GOP manages to retake both Houses and actually starts instituting policies that improve our economy? Does the media think the electorate that just put Obama’s opposition in charge of Congress will believe Barry is the one due credit for the turnaround?

Doughboy on August 12, 2010 at 9:26 AM

I hope the Dems and GOP continue to rely on the media’s polling skills.

Dems in order to continue behaving as they are.
GOP to not get over confident and fight for the hearts and minds of their actual constituents.

barnone on August 12, 2010 at 9:29 AM

One small problem with that strategery by the drive-bys. What if the GOP manages to retake both Houses and actually starts instituting policies that improve our economy? Does the media think the electorate that just put Obama’s opposition in charge of Congress will believe Barry is the one due credit for the turnaround?

Doughboy on August 12, 2010 at 9:26 AM

It worked for Clinton in 1996.

steveegg on August 12, 2010 at 9:29 AM

“Recovery Summer”

If this was a recovery summer, what meme is the WH going to invent with the word FALL in it????

Rovin on August 12, 2010 at 9:31 AM

Obama and his dishonest claims

jobless claims are up. He says they are down.
Unemployment is incredibly high. His claim is not supported by facts. It is wishfull thinking.
GDP gets adjusted downward. He has 2 pet bills in line that will kill a couple million more jobs.

seven on August 12, 2010 at 9:32 AM

you’re aware the the NBC/WSJ poll is a bi-partisan poll conducted by a Republican-only firm and Democrat-only firm?

maybe it was the Dem’s turn to lead on that poll…

just sayin

Butters on August 12, 2010 at 9:16 AM

You suggest something that I just don’t understand. It purports to be an NBC-WSJ poll. Now, NBC is all in for Obama, while the WSJ is generally critical of Obama, except when he does something correct in the wars and in education.

Did the NBC people mug the WSJ people and shove them in a closet? The polling samples simply cannot be justified. Trolls, comments?

BuckeyeSam on August 12, 2010 at 9:37 AM

Obamaville road sign available here.

Copy it and post it wherever you like.

trapeze on August 12, 2010 at 9:24 AM

Very cool!

Key West Reader on August 12, 2010 at 9:37 AM

Cindy Munford on August 12, 2010 at 9:16 AM

Probably. O-bots didn’t get where they are by letting facts stand in their way.

RTTNews.com:

At the same time, the report showed that the unemployment rate came in unchanged compared to the previous month at 9.5 percent, reflecting a decrease in the size of the labor force. The unemployment rate had been expected to edge up to 9.6 percent.

petefrt on August 12, 2010 at 9:38 AM

If this was a recovery summer, what meme is the WH going to invent with the word FALL in it????

Rovin on August 12, 2010 at 9:31 AM

Recovery Harvest.

/that’s where they harvest all the dead voters and drag their bodies to the polls in wagons being pulled by the Purple People Beaters and the New Black Panthers.

Key West Reader on August 12, 2010 at 9:39 AM

Michelle Obama doesn’t do well, either, in a poll taken in the middle of her Spanish holiday. Her approval rating fell to 50%, which was only a drop of five points since January.

No kidding!

PatMac on August 12, 2010 at 9:39 AM

NBC/WSJ poll shows Americans rejecting “Recovery Summer” meme

I suppose this means we’re at the part where Chip Diller starts screaming, “Remain calm! All is well!”

apostic on August 12, 2010 at 9:40 AM

petefrt on August 12, 2010 at 9:38 AM

I got the numbers wrong, but I nailed it that they would dust it with Unicorn Skittle poop.

Cindy Munford on August 12, 2010 at 9:41 AM

You want bummer? I gotcher some bummer here. How about THIS latest giveaway, my taxpaying friends?

Obama Administration to Provide $3 Billion in Housing Aid

…Another $1 billion will go to a new program being run by the Department of Housing and Urban Development. It will provide homeowners with emergency zero-interest rate loans of up to $50,000 for up to two years.

The administration was required to launch the HUD emergency loan program by the financial regulatory bill signed by President Barack Obama last month.

I would also like an interest free FIFTY GRAND check to default on, thank you very much. WHERE do I sign?

tree hugging sister on August 12, 2010 at 9:46 AM

FLIM-FLAM SAUCE!!

Dominion on August 12, 2010 at 9:51 AM

You suggest something that I just don’t understand. It purports to be an NBC-WSJ poll. Now, NBC is all in for Obama, while the WSJ is generally critical of Obama, except when he does something correct in the wars and in education.

Did the NBC people mug the WSJ people and shove them in a closet? The polling samples simply cannot be justified. Trolls, comments?

BuckeyeSam on August 12, 2010 at 9:37 AM


You’re confusing yourself and showing that you didn’t read past the third paragraph…if any of it.

“Even with Republicans having low numbers, they are the opposition party and are going to benefit from people saying, ‘We’re ticked off and we want a change,”‘ said Republican pollster Bill McInturff, who conducted the survey with Democratic pollster Peter Hart. “The way you vote your discontent is to say you’re going to vote Republican.”

Butters on August 12, 2010 at 9:55 AM

FLIM-FLAM SAUCE!!

Dominion on August 12, 2010 at 9:51 AM

It’s excellent when drizzled on wagyu beef and wilted arugula.

forest on August 12, 2010 at 9:57 AM

Cindy Munford on August 12, 2010 at 9:41 AM

I’d think the number is still ‘in flux,’ and it will end up as you suggested.

petefrt on August 12, 2010 at 9:57 AM

Obama and the Dems have forced me to practice what I call my own “Galt by Default” economics.

They have teams of “experts” working on ideas of how to extract even more money from my paycheck and I make less than $90,000 a year. To get there, I have to work a tremendous amount of overtime, which is available due to job reductions where I am employed.

I know that healthcare costs are going to continue to rise, taxes are going to increase on everyone except for those who don’t pay taxes now. I am certain that cuts in Social Security are coming soon and I am months away from retiring.

I have money in my pocket now and a sizable savings in the bank. That’s where it is staying until the Feds start confiscating more of it in the near future. It is a sure thing, and I can’t spend money and contribute to the economy anytime soon. It would be economic suicide to part with my money as long as Obama and the Dems are in power.

metroryder on August 12, 2010 at 10:07 AM

I’ve been on unemployment 3 times in the last year. In the Telecom buisness as a contractor, I went from $65 an hour down to $17 and hour with no guarantees of extensions to the project. I suspect that near December, I’ll be back on unemployment again. And I’m the lucky one in this kind of game. I have aquaintences that have been unemployed for over a year now… solid.

Recovery my azz!

44Magnum on August 12, 2010 at 10:10 AM

petefrt on August 12, 2010 at 9:57 AM

Now if I could just get the lottery numbers right.

Cindy Munford on August 12, 2010 at 10:12 AM

Not even skewed polls can rescue Obama and the Democrats. They’re drowning in Recovery Summer.

There has already been a huge political earthquake but it was far out at sea. We all know the tsunami’s coming. It’s just a question of how much damage it’s going to do the democrats.

I know there are dyed in the wool socialists who will never change until they die but even some lifelong libtards are waking up to reality. Not having a job will do that for you.

Mojave Mark on August 12, 2010 at 10:14 AM

Every time I see that photo, all I can think of is dialogue:

Obama: “kiss me, kiss me, you white man.”

Lourdes on August 12, 2010 at 10:25 AM

Nearly two-thirds of Americans believe the economy has yet to hit bottom

The evidence is overwhelming and obvious. I “expect” the pace to accelerate downward if appropriate action isn’t taken to stop the momentum.

Snowballs gather mass and velocity as they roll downhill toward that fat stump at the bottom.

As long as Zero and the clown posse continue to poison the private sector they are actually pushing the snowball.

dogsoldier on August 12, 2010 at 10:29 AM

Don’t lose your morning coffee, but read this:

O’s latest biz-killer
Racial quotas for business loans

What lurks beneath the surface of the “Frank-Dodd” legislation. With Obama’s name written all over it, in the blood of the taxpayers.

Lourdes on August 12, 2010 at 10:32 AM

Don’t lose your morning coffee, but read this:

O’s latest biz-killer

Racial quotas for business loans

What lurks beneath the surface of the “Frank-Dodd” legislation. With Obama’s name written all over it, in the blood of the taxpayers.

Lourdes on August 12, 2010 at 10:32 AM

For posterity, I’d like to add that I think anyone in business should have access to reasonable credit based upon their credit worthiness. NOT based upon racial preferences without consideration of credit worthiness or aside from that.

But Obama (and Frank and Dodd and the Democrats) want to “enlarge” the same ripoff, skewered processes that put housing into the swamp and our economy along with it. They’re literally now just encouraging more of the same.

Lourdes on August 12, 2010 at 10:35 AM

Lourdes on August 12, 2010 at 10:35 AM

…because, the Frank-Dodd-Obama-Democrats’ ideas create huge liabilities that fall back on the lives and pocketbooks of each taxpayer. Banks are leaned on, they lean on ‘regular’ repeat customers. Housing flounders, reliable consumers are stuck with the financial liabilities and on it goes as to food, insurance, everything. Business is pressured, they do what they need to to survive and if that means moving offshore, firing American taxpaying employees, they do so.

Obama does.not.get.that or he DOES get.that and he thinks it’s good for whatever his goals are to help ruin the lives of Americans.

Lourdes on August 12, 2010 at 10:38 AM

One small problem with that strategery by the drive-bys. What if the GOP manages to retake both Houses and actually starts instituting policies that improve our economy? Does the media think the electorate that just put Obama’s opposition in charge of Congress will believe Barry is the one due credit for the turnaround?

Doughboy on August 12, 2010 at 9:26 AM

MOst of us are aware that all improvements that a GOP majority in Congress will produce (and they will produce such) is going to be attempted to be hijacked as to credit by Obama and Admin.

At this point, expect that hijacking attempt and be prepared to counter it.

Lourdes on August 12, 2010 at 10:40 AM

The MSM still talk about “the recovery” and it makes my blood boil. There is no recovery! Things have been sucky for 2 years now.

There is a good side to this, however. Every time some libby a-hole comes on TV and talks about the “the recovery” or how we’re really gonna like Obamacare I believe that they just keep on digging their November hole even deeper…

yubley on August 12, 2010 at 10:46 AM

9 points is insane. Still, I’m surprised they even published this.

Missy on August 12, 2010 at 10:57 AM

Cindy Munford on August 12, 2010 at 10:12 AM

Not to worry, with you knack for analyzing stuff, you could probably make a lot of money at NewsFutures.com

petefrt on August 12, 2010 at 11:50 AM

petefrt on August 12, 2010 at 11:50 AM

First, how do you pronounce that? Lumenogic? Second, that read like total b.s. to me. I wonder if there is much money in it?

Cindy Munford on August 12, 2010 at 12:00 PM

Cindy Munford on August 12, 2010 at 12:00 PM

My goof. I meant to link you to InTrade.com

petefrt on August 12, 2010 at 12:07 PM

The Orwellian language has begun to be translated automatically for most Americans.

I’m glad. I was afraid people would keep believing the lies. They really do lie quite well.

But apparently not well enough to make people ignore the realities around them.

petunia on August 12, 2010 at 1:40 PM

Don’t lose your morning coffee, but read this:

O’s latest biz-killer
Racial quotas for business loans

What lurks beneath the surface of the “Frank-Dodd” legislation. With Obama’s name written all over it, in the blood of the taxpayers.

Lourdes on August 12, 2010 at 10:32 AM

So much for color blind.

What I don’t get is why when they are faced with a real problem like this they don’t address the actual problem.

Why isn’t the emphasis on educating minorities on what they are doing wrong?

Give financial education and help them hire accountant and financial people who know how to fix their credit issues long term.

Wouldn’t they rather have truly successful minority companies instead of a few years of success then bankruptcy?

Our government lives in backward world.

petunia on August 12, 2010 at 1:50 PM

Can’t wait for Redistribution November where the the majority of seats are given to someone besides the Democrap.

chickasaw42 on August 12, 2010 at 6:24 PM