Initial jobless claims rising to six-month high; Update: “Unexpectedly,” says Reuters
posted at 9:30 am on August 12, 2010 by Ed Morrissey
The number of initial jobless claims hit a six-month high this week, as did the four-week rolling average, according to the new release from the Bureau of Labor Statistics. The new data marks a high since the first quarter of the year, and comes as no surprise after the latest round of economic indicators show stagnation and malaise setting into the American economy. Even the AP can’t feign surprise any longer:
First-time claims for jobless benefits edged up by 2,000 to a seasonally adjusted 484,000, the Labor Department said Thursday. Analysts had expected a drop. That’s the highest total since February.
Initial claims have now risen in three of the last four weeks and are close to their high point for the year of 490,000, reached in late January. The four-week average, which smooths volatility, soared by 14,250 to 473,500, also the highest since late February.
The prospects of more layoffs added to this week’s grim outlook for the economy, which began Tuesday when the Federal Reserve lowered its assessment of the recovery.
Investors were bracing for another rocky day on Wall Street. Dow Jones industrial average futures, which were down about 50 points before the report came out, fell further. They were down nearly 90 points before the market opened.
That followed a Dow fall yesterday of 265 points after Wall Street saw the much-worse-than-expected trade numbers from June. Exports and manufacturing have reversed since a brief period of growth, and the outlook for sales abroad seems pessimistic. That will have an impact on future hiring — and since most of the economic woes in the US are tied to joblessness, the outlook for overall growth is also pessimistic.
The chart below tracks initial jobless claims for the year:
The four-week rolling average will probably have more impact, as it is supposed to eliminate weeklong spikes and troughs. Hitting a six month high shows that whatever gains the US made in Q1 and part of Q2 have more or less dissipated. We have not even come close to the 325,000 level that usually indicates healthy job creation over that which merely keeps up with population growth, and we are once again headed in the wrong direction.
Update: Reuters still didn’t see it coming:
The number of U.S. workers filing new claims for unemployment insurance unexpectedly rose to its highest level in close to six months, a fresh signal of a weak jobs market. …
Economists polled by Reuters had expected claims in the latest week to fall to 465,000 from the previously reported 479,000.
Maybe Reuters should find other economists to poll. Paul Krugman is busy enough these days. (h/t DogSoldier)










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its a total disaster and the left and media are utterly bewildered about the failure of their ideology.
rob verdi on August 12, 2010 at 9:32 AM
Democrats Tout Their Role in Stopping Employer Interrogation Program
Mervis Winter on August 12, 2010 at 9:33 AM
You can add my Nephew to that group. Worked for a company for 6 years. He was pretty much the last to go.Recovery Summer?
sandee on August 12, 2010 at 9:34 AM
for example this was in the Times today:
rob verdi on August 12, 2010 at 9:34 AM
Not only is the Obama clueless, they are helpless. They don’t know what to do, and they are out of levers to pull, buttons to push which makes them desperate and very dangerous.
Skandia Recluse on August 12, 2010 at 9:35 AM
“The status quo won’t do. We need more of the same, not just the same amount of the same,” -Obooba.
Akzed on August 12, 2010 at 9:35 AM
“Look daddy, the soup line is now shorter than the unemployment line!”
ted c on August 12, 2010 at 9:35 AM
I wonder if my Beagle could get one of those government sniffer jobs at the airport or seafood inspector on the Gulf. We could use the extra $ and especially the benefits.
cartooner on August 12, 2010 at 9:36 AM
Obama’s America.
Inanemergencydial on August 12, 2010 at 9:36 AM
I’m seeing red.
Akzed on August 12, 2010 at 9:38 AM
Unexpectedly by whom?
Cindy Munford on August 12, 2010 at 9:39 AM
Spreading the wealth sure does have an odd effect.
artist on August 12, 2010 at 9:39 AM
My retinas !!!!
Dr. Carlo Lombardi on August 12, 2010 at 9:39 AM
Sorry about the red font; forgot the closing tag.
Ed Morrissey on August 12, 2010 at 9:39 AM
Recovery Summer…..feel it!
RobCon on August 12, 2010 at 9:40 AM
The political class. They’re the ones who keep saying overwhelmingly in poll after poll that the country is on the right track.
Doughboy on August 12, 2010 at 9:40 AM
Obama has always said transformational change is hard. I’m sure that he and his base think this a small price to pay for the long term benefit.
What was it that someone said once…something about breaking eggs to make an omelet?
r keller on August 12, 2010 at 9:40 AM
I am self-employed, in marketing, PR and free-lance writing. I managed to keep afloat in 2009; in fact, thanks to a bonus I made more in ’09 than in several years. Then … finally by ’10, the recession hit enough people that clients first cut back, then eliminated me. Yesterday, I was thrilled to take a part-time job as a communications director at a non-profit. Pay? What I was making as a newspaper copy editor in 1989. I’m still thrilled, though, and news like this makes me doubly so. (And because it’s part-time, I get to keep a few very part-time clients that still pay me at a fairly good hourly rate.
Why did I take the job instead of looking for more clients? Economic news like this, that’s why.
lizzieillinois on August 12, 2010 at 9:42 AM
One of the authors of that piece-James Kwak!
marinetbryant on August 12, 2010 at 9:43 AM
The MSM doesn’t seem to comprehend how embarrassing their reporting is to most of us.
Keemo on August 12, 2010 at 9:43 AM
Ed, you’re working the morning shift and the evening shift.. Treat for us, but hopefully temporary for you.
Keemo on August 12, 2010 at 9:44 AM
Only in Obamaworld is the predictable considered unexpected.
tommyboy on August 12, 2010 at 9:45 AM
Obama has accomplished a great deal in less than 2 years, hasn’t he? By end of his term, our economy will rank right up there with Zimbabwe’s.
kingsjester on August 12, 2010 at 9:45 AM
Thank you, Ed! Happy to help. I read this stuff voraciously.
The market lost 2% at the opening bell this morning. We may see a major selloff today.
The unemployment numbers are starting to approach last year’s levels.
dogsoldier on August 12, 2010 at 9:46 AM
There is no recovery.
forest on August 12, 2010 at 9:47 AM
It seems even the WSJ is getting into the unexpected game.
GnuBreed on August 12, 2010 at 9:47 AM
But the government, as we’re in the process of witnessing, is a MUCH MORE EFFICIENT allocator of resources and a better determiner of where other people’s money ‘needs to be spent.’ Right?
And they’re surprised at the current state of affairs? Really?
Consumer spending doesn’t drive supply, per the Keynesian law. The chief driver of economic activity in the US isn’t consumer spending, anyway. It’s investment. And in order for most people to have money to invest, they have to save it first.
The NYT’s advice to you people during the recession? SPEND SPEND SPEND! Don’t save! Don’t prepare for a rainy day. Don’t be responsible. Don’t worry about it – big daddy Obama will “bail you out” with your neighbor’s money (which the treasury doesn’t have). SPEND SPEND SPEND.
Yup. Central planning and Obama’s Change-o-nomics are really doing gangbusters, aren’t they? Boy, are we lucky.
Good Lt on August 12, 2010 at 9:48 AM
Obama. My God when will this nightmare end!
SPGuy on August 12, 2010 at 9:48 AM
You know if you keep polling the same idiots week after week, you might keep getting the same lame (and wrong) predictions there Reuters.
Johnnyreb on August 12, 2010 at 9:49 AM
I agree but to what end? Obama and the Dems don’t seem to care that they’re facing electoral annihilation in Nov., that the economy is tanking along with the market, or that he’s increasingly seen as a disaster.
I can’t figure it out because none of the issues that would generally cause a POTUS or politician to reverse course (or even show some concern) make this current crop even blink. I’m no tinfoil type, but either Obama doesn’t care because he’s not running again (seems more and more likely and would explain his nonchalance) or they really are stupid enough to believe that since they have “him” everything will work out. Strange times indeed.
volnation on August 12, 2010 at 9:49 AM
Our Construction business started to see decline in 2008. Still not bad but down.When Obama took over in 2009 it really started declining. needless to say we had to shut down and my husband had to look for other employment. Nine months of applying for ever single type of job he finally was hired as a project manager. Unfortunately it was too late to save our home or our savings. Bitter, no. We’re actually grateful to have any income. He makes in a week what he used to make in a day.
sandee on August 12, 2010 at 9:49 AM
I don’t know whether to laugh or cry reading that nonsense from the Times. They just don’t live in the same universe as the rest of us. They think all tax cuts go straight into the bank accounts of plutocrats, and all government “stimulus” spending is super-efficient and goes directly into creation of real jobs for people who need them. They are stuck in the 1970s.
What is really going into the bank accounts of the plutocrats is the interest on the federal debt – $20 billion a month now. That’s a direct transfer of wealth from the middle class to the rich, and to Cuban and other foreign holders of U.S. debt. The New York Times used to fuss about this when Bush was increasing the debt.
rockmom on August 12, 2010 at 9:49 AM
I’m not sure what Reuters’ deal is – it’s not like we didn’t tell them exactly what range of values they should expect this week:
Only a value that would fall outside this range could legitimately be considered “unexpected” given the data and the trend. Assuming we’re not witnessing the beginning of a break in the trend that has been in place since 21 November 2009, the range of values to expect to be announced for next week’s seasonally-adjusted new jobless claims (19 August 2010) will fall between 412,000 and 505,000.
ironman on August 12, 2010 at 9:50 AM
Come on, people. It doesn’t matter what the number say, it’s all about the message! The message is Recovery Summer. I don’t know WHY you all can’t just swallow that, be happy about what a great job our King is doing, and go on with life. Why do you insist on questioning the message?
Seriously. Do I really need a /?
UnderstandingisPower on August 12, 2010 at 9:51 AM
“Recovery Summer” fever. Catch It!!
Dr. Carlo Lombardi on August 12, 2010 at 9:53 AM
rockmom,
exactly, its almost criminal and delusional rolled into one.
rob verdi on August 12, 2010 at 9:55 AM
Time to take another vacation!
MADgirl91 on August 12, 2010 at 9:57 AM
I hope illegals are as hard hit as other Americans at this point. I wonder how many of them are self deporting back to Mexico or if the number skittering across the border is decreasing at all.
Canadian Infidel on August 12, 2010 at 9:58 AM
It’s Bushs fault.
Fuquay Steve on August 12, 2010 at 9:59 AM
Marbella Recovery, aragula shoots!
the_nile on August 12, 2010 at 9:59 AM
Where is the “unexpectedly” reference page on Hot Air? Or does one need to be created?
It would be an interesting reference to document every time H.A. has observed the copy-n-paste media using that word in relation to jobs.
ynot4tony2 on August 12, 2010 at 10:00 AM
Know how bad our economy and the Bambi admin are doing????
When was the last time anything done was compared to “nothing”. Think about that for a bit:
“Honey did you take the kids to school”
“No dear, I did got Johnny dressed – which is better than nothing”
“Um waiter – I ordered filet mignon”
“Well, bacon is better than nothing sir”
Etc, etc.
Imagine a world where the most powerful man can simply compare “anything” to “nothing”. We are living it.
Its the ethos of AA and entitlement – lowest common denominator to prove your “worth”, when in fact its nothing but a smokescreen to avoid your failure.
Thats where this fraudulant lie of “jobs saved” comes from (is it 8 or 6 or 9 million????), “economy would have collapsed”, “Ford needed our GM/Chrysler bailout” …. the scary part is 40% of the masses of asses in America believe it.
Odie1941 on August 12, 2010 at 10:00 AM
That’s not going to happen = you won’t be able to pay to feed your children or get a job or own a home.
Rebar on August 12, 2010 at 10:01 AM
I had a chuckle at this. The NY Times is clueless. What more possible incentive can you give business NOT to hire?
neobadger on August 12, 2010 at 10:02 AM
dear leader: let’s spend more money!
cmsinaz on August 12, 2010 at 10:02 AM
Obama’s top economist
Rosie Scenario PHd
seven on August 12, 2010 at 10:04 AM
You are correct. All the blather about any recovery was complete fiction. Every single economic indicator I have seen and researched shows things getting increasingly worse. Now I admit, I paid attention in my college economics and biz calc classes.
Zero and posse are convinced of the correctness of their folly.
dogsoldier on August 12, 2010 at 10:05 AM
OT: Dems keepin’ it classy
cmsinaz on August 12, 2010 at 10:05 AM
My daily “Morning View Report” from Charles Schwab refers to the “unexpected increase” in jobless claims. If it was so “unexpected” to them, it makes me wonder about trusting them to manage my retirement savings, as one of their “Private Clients.” I could see it coming. They should have, too!
“The US equity markets moved below the flatline following an unexpected increase in US weekly initial jobless claims, which is adding to the slew of reports recently that have dampened the outlook for the economic recovery and led to yesterday’s steep losses in global stock markets.”
Star20 on August 12, 2010 at 10:06 AM
I really expected this week to be different.[Insert Palinesque eyeroll here]
chief on August 12, 2010 at 10:06 AM
I think they’re polling only one, Turbo Timmy.
dogsoldier on August 12, 2010 at 10:08 AM
Maybe The One’s ocean-lowering ray got bumped by a guest at some White House party. It’s been aimed at the economy all this time and nobody in the Administration has noticed.
Cicero43 on August 12, 2010 at 10:08 AM
Is it that, or is it because you just didn’t like having a black president?
I think we all know the answer to that, wingnut.
Good Lt on August 12, 2010 at 10:09 AM
“Recovery Summer” = “Whip Inflation Now” buttons.
Dr. Carlo Lombardi on August 12, 2010 at 10:11 AM
Another sh!t fight in the monkey pen.
Phil-351 on August 12, 2010 at 10:13 AM
I feel for you lizzie – and I am in the same boat – with a similiar story. In the end – clients were either cutting to almost nothing, while asking for more service to make up for the other relationships they terminated – or in 2 cases – not paying at all and giving me the “well, sue us”
Finally jumped back into the job market – which is a sobering and pathetic experience.
Odie1941 on August 12, 2010 at 10:17 AM
Apparently these particular analysts have overdosed on fairy dust and moonbeams. Or maybe a unicorn just kicked them in the head.
Oldnuke on August 12, 2010 at 10:19 AM
Why not save all this up and package it as the Sunday Funnies?
The lame stream media is lying, and everybody knows it now.
tarpon on August 12, 2010 at 10:20 AM
All that’s left is for Obama to cuss out America, grab a couple of
beerswine coolers, and slide down the emergency chute. To paraphrase Bristol Palin, we got played.Mojave Mark on August 12, 2010 at 10:21 AM
Anyone advocating government spending has not understood a very basic truth explained by Milton Friedman about the “Four Ways to Spend Money”:
Bambi and the sycophants in the NY Times will never learn this because of their massive hubris. They truly believe they have the knowledge about the “right way” to spend other people’s money.
PackerBronco on August 12, 2010 at 10:23 AM
Judging by the comments left on the Reuters article, no one is buying the “unexpectedly” tag any more. Frankly, if Hot Air and other news blogs like them would stop linking to them, I don’t think anyone actually reads these articles.
rollthedice on August 12, 2010 at 10:25 AM
We can always count on you for the Op-Toons! Thanks!!!
lovingmyUSA on August 12, 2010 at 10:30 AM
OT: Has anyone seen video clips from Atlanta of those people lining up for applications to get on a waiting list for Section 8 housing?
When do the riots start? I think that if we had one more month to this summer, they’d start. With autumn and an election coming, I hope it doesn’t come to that.
I was in college around the time of Reagan’s first midterms. What were mortgage rates? 12%? I remember getting a CD with an interest rate of 17.45%. But then, there was optimism and faith in the private sector. Today, there’s no news about the private sector. Instead, it’s non-stop news about Obama, Gibbs, Summers, Romer, Browner, Salazar–nothing but news about governing elites and how they’re undermining our economy and our national security.
If we ever recover, we have to cite the Obama administration as a “never again” period in our country’s history.
BuckeyeSam on August 12, 2010 at 10:30 AM
Is this an artifact of the Census jobs?
hawksruleva on August 12, 2010 at 10:33 AM
We warned you that “HTML by Ace” wasn’t a wise book choice :P
lorien1973 on August 12, 2010 at 10:34 AM
The Dems spent ONE TRILLION dollars and promised it would turn employment and the economy around. Who is accountable? I read that they could have sent each household in the USA more than $30,000 with a trillion dollars.
It’s gonna be a long summer.
iam7545 on August 12, 2010 at 10:35 AM
Count it!
lorien1973 on August 12, 2010 at 10:35 AM
Obamanomics has worked out so well that I can hardly wait for Obama Care to kick in too! It’s like double prizes! It’s morning in America everyone!
The Chewbacca Defense on August 12, 2010 at 10:36 AM
ONE MORE TIME!
“It’s all Bush’s Fault!”
Those liberal lemmings in Washington are leading this country right over an economic cliff.
Double dip recession, anyone?
GarandFan on August 12, 2010 at 10:38 AM
Yep, it looks like everything is going as planned. I can’t wait for November.
Joe Caps on August 12, 2010 at 10:40 AM
When the car has already gone off the cliff, putting it in (R) won’t help.
Cicero43 on August 12, 2010 at 10:40 AM
I’ve had it with “unexpectedly.” This recession has gone on way longer than average, with no end in sight—the news worsens. The only news that should be referred to as “unexpected” are spikes in private sector job creation, home sales or significant falls in numbers of initial job claims. If that stuff ain’t happening….then it’s all “expected.” The economy is in the toilet, it shouldn’t be a surprise when a turd floats by and stuff all around you stinks. 2cent
ted c on August 12, 2010 at 10:41 AM
Either we have the most incompetent leadership we’ve ever had, or the most malicious.
Either they don’t know what the H377 they’re doing or they are intentionally deceiving us and trying to run the country into the ground.
CynicalOptimist on August 12, 2010 at 10:45 AM
All part of the plan.
Cloward-Piven
angryed on August 12, 2010 at 10:45 AM
Reuters is unexpectedly still considered a viable and legitimate news source. Story at 10.
It’s not news anymore, it’s ideology and agenda peddling wrapped up as news but really it’s BS.
Yakko77 on August 12, 2010 at 10:47 AM
What a waste of remedial ed.!!!
lovingmyUSA on August 12, 2010 at 10:50 AM
MSM credibility sinks to record lows…
UNEXPECTEDLY
Greek Fire on August 12, 2010 at 10:50 AM
Unexpected indeed. Everything’s a surprise to the stupid.
theCork on August 12, 2010 at 10:54 AM
At what point is it a criminal act of fraud trying to manipulate the economy and the voters with obvious lies? If a CEO of a company porposefully lies about projected earnings and expenses to maniuplate stock values and share-holder votes, it is a crime. Why isn’t it a crime for the president and his administration to do the same to the American people.
I’m not just annoyed or rolling my eyes, I’m really, truly, angry.
WashingtonsWake on August 12, 2010 at 10:57 AM
This is why the “jobs created or saved” memo was created. Even if 300,000,000 file for unemployment anyone left working he claim he saved “saved”.
Alden Pyle on August 12, 2010 at 10:57 AM
Don’t worry, we’ll just re “save” those jobs with another $800 Billion. Never mind that we haven’t spent all of the LAST $800 Billion that was intended to save jobs.
hawksruleva on August 12, 2010 at 10:58 AM
Government spending to pay salaries and unemployment benefits doesn’t solve the problem any more than buying heroin for an addict solves his addiction. We’re just taking out a loan to kick the can down the road.
hawksruleva on August 12, 2010 at 10:59 AM
Constant state of surprise = clueless. Quick somebody buy the media a thesaurus.
Kissmygrits on August 12, 2010 at 11:01 AM
This week jobless claims rose, last quarter’s growth has been adjusted to below 1% and the deficit has–OMG LOOK!! Sarah Palin’s picking her nose!!! SHE’S PICKING HER NOSE!!!!!!
PetecminMd on August 12, 2010 at 11:03 AM
“This is not the recovery you’re looking for.” – Obi Bama
or
“We inherited this disaster, and we’ve done an incredible job of starting the road to recovery. Without the decisive and immediate action we took, the Bush Recession would have been much, much worse. Imagine if we hadn’t provided a stimulus program, there would have been 15%, maybe 20% unemployment and then all of our teachers would have been out of jobs and no one would be teaching our community’s children…” – Obambi
Hey, I’m just wondering if the Democrats will unexpectedly lose in November, or whether we really will see them drive us off the cliff first…
Geministorm on August 12, 2010 at 11:04 AM
Lowest level people hardest hit … And wasn’t that the ones that Obowma wanted to protect and give them the wealth? Too bad there is no way to give them the brains.
tarpon on August 12, 2010 at 11:09 AM
There is exactly one thing that would work – the one thing that has always worked – and it is exactly the one thing Cpt Zero will never do — lower taxes so businesses stop thinking (correctly) that the government sees them as a) a piggybank, and b) a political pinata, rather than the ones who could actually hire people if only hunting season would end.
It’s the only thing that would help, and it’s not rocket science; but only a Republican would do it, because they’re the only ones whose religion it isn’t against.
It’s not businesses’ fault that they’re not idiots. “Kill the rich – tax them to death”… what did they THINK would happen? How many people collect a paycheck from a poor boss?
So 2013 is the soonest this can get better. If there’s anything left by then.
Dirty Creature on August 12, 2010 at 11:28 AM
This pretty much defines the national mood
faraway on August 12, 2010 at 11:33 AM
It’s OK though….Government Motors made a “profit” of $1.3B. See the economy is booming. All we have to do is unionize every company, give the unions $50B in taxpayer money and the economy will roar back.
angryed on August 12, 2010 at 11:44 AM
BruceB on August 12, 2010 at 12:09 PM
Sam, here it is Obamaville Housing applicants
I recommend if you can, to watch the video. It looks like a third world country with the people reaching out for applications. Worse than Katrina.
The Still Small Voice keeps saying, stock in, stock up and be prepared.
Key West Reader on August 12, 2010 at 12:33 PM
What most of you fail to realize is that jobs are not a leading indicator of recovery. The jobless rate always lags behind the real improvements. As soon as companies see the profits from the increase in sales and exports… oh wait. Never mind./s
Sgtmack on August 12, 2010 at 1:06 PM
Gee. When you kill individual incentives, the economy tanks. Indeed, that’s why socialist and communist countries always fail. Now, Mr. Hubris’ transformational attempts are tanking our economy too! So why is that UNEXPECTED?
Dr. Charles G. Waugh on August 12, 2010 at 2:00 PM
The picture on Drudge of a gal says it all of how many American’s feel! ‘A job is a right’! No, sugar it is NOT a right. As of yet, no employer HAS to hire someone, period!
L
letget on August 12, 2010 at 2:58 PM
How long will it take, I wonder, before O-Freaks realize that their hero, Achilles, not only has a faulty heel but a faulty knee, a faulty arm, a faulty arm, a faulty body and a faulty brain.
MaiDee on August 12, 2010 at 3:24 PM
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