HUD offers interest-free $50K loans to unemployed homeowners to stem foreclosures

posted at 2:20 pm on August 12, 2010 by Ed Morrissey

Call it a hair-of-the-dog solution to a seemingly intractable problem.  The Department of Housing and Urban Development have begun issuing emergency $50,000 loans at zero interest to unemployed homeowners in an attempt to stall foreclosures, using $1 billion of Porkulus funds for the effort and $2 billion from the same source for indirect aid through state governments.  Ironically, while foreclosure seizures are rising, the actual trend is more optimistic:

The Obama administration is providing $3 billion to unemployed homeowners facing foreclosure in the nation’s toughest job markets.

The Treasury Department says it will send $2 billion to 17 states that have unemployment rates higher than the national average for a year. They will use the money for programs to aid unemployed homeowners. Some of those states have already designed such programs.

Another $1 billion will go to a new program being run by the Department of Housing and Urban Development. It will provide homeowners with emergency zero-interest rate loans of up to $50,000 for up to two years.

The news comes as foreclosure seizures have increased by 6% over last year:

The number of U.S. homes lost to foreclosure surged in July, another sign lenders are moving quicker to take back properties from homeowners behind in payments.

Lenders repossessed 92,858 properties last month, up 9 percent from June and an increase of 6 percent from July 2009, foreclosure listing firm RealtyTrac Inc. said Thursday.

Banks have stepped up repossessions this year to clear out the backlog of bad loans. July makes the eighth month in a row that the pace of homes lost to foreclosure has increased on an annual basis.

Also, the cancer appears to have spread to areas outside of the original epicenters of the collapse:

Home foreclosures are climbing in the Northwest and Midwest, areas that had earlier dodged the worst of the mortgage crisis, according to real estate data firm RealtyTrac Inc. With 14.6 million Americans out of work and consumer spending declining, further weakness in housing could push the economy back into recession, former Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan said Aug. 1.

Foreclosure rates in Utah, Idaho, Illinois and Colorado rose in the second quarter compared with a year earlier, and rank among the 10 highest in the country. The number of homes seized by lenders at least doubled in 19 states and more than tripled in seven of them, according to Irvine, California-based RealtyTrac.

That’s the bad news, and it’s legitimately bad.  The Obama administration has failed to do anything more than to extend the cycle of foreclosures, which merely postponed the inevitable for lenders faced with unsalvageable situations.  However, it masks better news, which is that the actual failure rate is finally declining as the worst cases finally get cleared off the ledgers:

The number of properties receiving an initial default notice — the first step in the foreclosure process — rose 1 percent last month from June, but tumbled 28 percent versus July last year, RealtyTrac said.

Initial defaults have fallen on an annual basis the past six months.

In other words, the market has begun to find its equilibrium, a process in which the Obama administration has interfered for the last eighteen months in a vain attempt to make some political hay while the sun not only didn’t shine, but the skies poured.  The use of a billion dollars to float homeowners over the next two years is hardly the most damaging intervention concocted yet by the administration, but it’s not going to do much without a big change in employment to match it.  The real problem, as just about every one of these news reports acknowledge, is the lack of jobs for American workers.

To fix the foreclosure crisis, the Obama administration has to abandon its top-down, command-economy policies and eliminate the uncertainties that its massive expansion of the regulatory state and of the national debt has created.  Otherwise, the interest-free loans will also mainly default and the foreclosure crisis will only be extended into 2012 … right before the presidential election.

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I’ll take a $50k interest free loan. If I skip some mortgage payments, can I have one too?

lorien1973 on August 12, 2010 at 2:23 PM

The number of properties receiving an initial default notice — the first step in the foreclosure process — rose 1 percent last month from June, but tumbled 28 percent versus July last year, RealtyTrac said.

This is because lenders are not sending out notices anymore. The amount of people not paying is still increasing. But banks have so many properties already, they can’t handle any more.

Don’t be fooled by this statistic.

angryed on August 12, 2010 at 2:24 PM

uhh, what’s the definition of insanity again?

bloghooligan on August 12, 2010 at 2:25 PM

God, I put a bid in on a house for 130K today. And I see THIS! Why the hell do I have a job anymore? My interest was 4.15 on my prequalification.

upinak on August 12, 2010 at 2:25 PM

So people who can’t pay their current bills – get a loan?

jake-the-goose on August 12, 2010 at 2:26 PM

Vote buying sure is getting expensive…..

BigWyo on August 12, 2010 at 2:26 PM

So people who can’t pay their current bills – get a loan?

jake-the-goose on August 12, 2010 at 2:26 PM

yeah.. fun huh.

upinak on August 12, 2010 at 2:27 PM

I’m a little confused as to why foreclosures are up and this is really necessary. I thought a majority of homeowners were underwater on their mortgages – i.e., they owe far more than their homes are now worth if repossessed and resold.

Doesn’t it benefit the banks to work something out with cash-strapped homeowners? Better to secure the payments on larger mortgages surely than settle for property the banks cannot unload or mortgages of far lower value?

Firefly_76 on August 12, 2010 at 2:27 PM

The real problem, as just about every one of these news reports acknowledge, is the lack of jobs for American workers.

“You could go down to minus two per cent! They can’t afford the house!” – Rick Santelli

Doughboy on August 12, 2010 at 2:28 PM

Oh COME ON!!!

I went to college on my own, didn’t buy the fancy shmansy TVs or fancy cars after college to pay off my students loans. I paid them off ON TIME without going through Ameri-Corps or teaching whatever.

I stayed away from the McMansion-craze until I could adequately afford the payments on my own home with a decent down payment which I’m just about at that point and NOW they’re just GIVING THEM AWAY!?!?

FUBO!!

Skywise on August 12, 2010 at 2:28 PM

And what happens when people inevitably default on these loans? Will the government really let them get kicked out their homes?

Doughboy on August 12, 2010 at 2:30 PM

Have we entered the Twilight Zone? People who have no income are getting loans??? The genius of Democrats on display!!! Can I haz Havaaaard bizness edjumacation two?

conservative pilgrim on August 12, 2010 at 2:30 PM

Why..do..I…bother…paying…my…bills.

WitchDoctor on August 12, 2010 at 2:31 PM

“To fix the foreclosure crisis, the Obama administration has to abandon its top-down, command-economy policies and eliminate the uncertainties that its massive expansion of the regulatory state and of the national debt has created.”

But that would put the car in “R” and not “D”…

/

Seven Percent Solution on August 12, 2010 at 2:31 PM

ROFL clueless my name is government.

the government would be better off taking over the title and collecting rent form these people.

unseen on August 12, 2010 at 2:32 PM

I think this is unfair… If they are going to give interest free loans, give them to the taxpayers who’s money they are using, who have jobs and can pay it back and who then could go out and spend it on things that would actually stimulate the economy!

CCRWM on August 12, 2010 at 2:32 PM

Anything but a “hard pivot on jobs”, eh?

Anything is better than doing what’s necessary.

Liberals live in a special sort of hell, and I don’t enjoy being part of it.

Cody1991 on August 12, 2010 at 2:32 PM

These loans will never be repaid. How may F-22 could we have purchased, which we actually need for our defense these troubled times.

Oil Can on August 12, 2010 at 2:33 PM

Let me see if I get this straight. To fix the problem caused by giving loans to people who can’t afford them, we’re going to give loans to people who can’t afford them?

hawksruleva on August 12, 2010 at 2:34 PM

Doesn’t it benefit the banks to work something out with cash-strapped homeowners? Better to secure the payments on larger mortgages surely than settle for property the banks cannot unload or mortgages of far lower value?

Firefly_76 on August 12, 2010 at 2:27 PM

Fed regs are very strict about what a bank can and cannot do.

I find this program offensive for many reasons, not least of which is that it deals with a symptom, not the problem.

The only real solution to the actual problem is to stop spending money and CUT TAXES. But dems are too stupid to see it. Maybe we should play JFK’s speech on the subject.

dogsoldier on August 12, 2010 at 2:34 PM

And what happens when people inevitably default on these loans? Will the government really let them get kicked out their homes?

Doughboy on August 12, 2010 at 2:30 PM

come on that won’t happen….at least not till AFTER the election….

unseen on August 12, 2010 at 2:34 PM

Doughboy on August 12, 2010 at 2:30 PM

Thinking the same thing.

When the time comes to repay these loans, these same people will not be able to – again.

I thought there was no plan to just give away money to help people out with their underwater mortgages? In effect, that’s what this is, right?

catmman on August 12, 2010 at 2:34 PM

This solution reminds me of paying your credit card bills with another credit card. That kind of shell game seldom ends well.

What are the terms of these loans? When do payments start cause if you are unemployed it may be a while before you can start making an extra payment even with no interest.

Are these “loans” destined to be forgiven if you work for the government?

How is this not economic slavery?

petunia on August 12, 2010 at 2:36 PM

$50K loan gift.

Less than 5% of these loans will ever be paid back.

angryed on August 12, 2010 at 2:36 PM

think this is unfair… If they are going to give interest free loans, give them to the taxpayers who’s money they are using, who have jobs and can pay it back and who then could go out and spend it on things that would actually stimulate the economy!

CCRWM on August 12, 2010 at 2:32 PM

But but that would do nothing for the dems come NOv because it would not change the headline numbers. All of the dem policies are designed for one thing and one thing only. How good they make the dems look for the election. they care nothing about the economy, about emplyment they only care how things LOOK. it is better to have lower forclosures before NOV then higher thus interest free loans to those about to lose their homes

unseen on August 12, 2010 at 2:37 PM

Let me see if I get this straight. To fix the problem caused by giving loans to people who can’t afford them, we’re going to give loans to people who can’t afford them?

hawksruleva on August 12, 2010 at 2:34 PM

Bingo! And Congress must continue to extend unemployment benefits over and over because there are no jobs being created.

Round and round we go…..

Cody1991 on August 12, 2010 at 2:37 PM

AMAZING. So what kind of other financial collapse could we expect when the people who take out these loans cant (or wont) pay them back either?

Then, what financial institutions will we (the taxpayer) be resoponsible for bailing out?

Avatar72 on August 12, 2010 at 2:37 PM

My collie says:

How about dead people? Can they get one of those interest free loans too?

I don’t see why not, collie. After all, most dead people haven’t been making regular mortgage payments either.

CyberCipher on August 12, 2010 at 2:37 PM

Loan? If it is not paid back, then what? 75k loan? So, can I just keep taking loans until I die?

Damn it, if they had just stayed out of it if we’d be in an actual recovery right now.

This truly is insanity. All in the name of politics.

Every time I hear “Party of No” I want to scream. Just saying NO was the right answer.

reaganaut on August 12, 2010 at 2:37 PM

Hey, I have an idea!

Let us pass an Act that forces banks to loan money to people who can’t afford it so they can buy a house in the name of ‘social justice’…

… Who’s with me?

Seven Percent Solution on August 12, 2010 at 2:37 PM

My question is, is it dischargeable in bankruptcy? If so it’s a perfect target for abuse: take the loan and live off of it untill it’s gone, walk away from your home which is still underwater, file Ch.7 bkr.

If it’s not dischargeable, people who take it and wind up not being able to dig out from their financial problems (if you’re not making your mortgage payments, you’ve almost certainly got an obscene amount of credit card debt as well), will have to repay a loan which went to a home they wound up losing anyways.

Dead Hand Control on August 12, 2010 at 2:38 PM

Doesn’t it benefit the banks to work something out with cash-strapped homeowners? Better to secure the payments on larger mortgages surely than settle for property the banks cannot unload or mortgages of far lower value?

Firefly_76 on August 12, 2010 at 2:27 PM

It does if people are paying SOMEthing on those mortgages. But for people who assumed someone was just GIVING them a house in exchange for signing some stack of papers, the banks don’t have a good plan.

These are the same folks who rent a house full of furniture. People think the renters are getting screwed because of the high interest rates on those payments. But if you never MAKE a payment, the interest rate doesn’t matter.

hawksruleva on August 12, 2010 at 2:38 PM

Damn it, if they had just stayed out of it if we’d be in an actual recovery right now.

reaganaut on August 12, 2010 at 2:37 PM

If the Dems hadn’t jacked up the real estate market in the first place, we might not have NEEDED to recover.

hawksruleva on August 12, 2010 at 2:39 PM

This makes zero sense. Why give loans to people who can not pay? Isn’t that called a gift?
This is beyond stupid. Why not let all unemployed people just not make payments?
I truly don’t get it.

ORconservative on August 12, 2010 at 2:40 PM

so the moral of the story is to go buy a house never pay a payment take the hit on your credit report and get $50,000 in cash and then walk away from the home and loan.

unseen on August 12, 2010 at 2:40 PM

I truly don’t get it.

ORconservative on August 12, 2010 at 2:40 PM

because you are not seeing the reason for the loan. It’s to paint a better picture and to buy votes nothing more nothing less.

unseen on August 12, 2010 at 2:41 PM

My first reaction was to ask whether there is an adult in the regime. Putting people further in debt won’t solve anything.

But on second thought, that’s the idea. It has 2 great benefits:
- seal the bankruptcy of more people in the middle class
- push the country closer to national bankruptcy

The overall plan is working even better than they could have imagined.

notagool on August 12, 2010 at 2:41 PM

I’ll take a $50k interest free loan. If I skip some mortgage payments, can I have one too?

lorien1973 on August 12, 2010 at 2:23 PM

That’s what I’mma do!

/Peggy Joseph

Key West Reader on August 12, 2010 at 2:42 PM

Time to figure out how to sign up for my 50,000. It’s my money anyway.
Are we Zimbawe yet?

ORconservative on August 12, 2010 at 2:43 PM

This is ridiculous. People don’t pay their bills, and get rewarded with my tax dollars?

I have a better solution: Put their belongings out in the front yard, and have the Sherrif hold an auction of their furniture and other posessions to make a down payment on their mortgage-in-arrears, and then put a lien on them for the rest.

Vashta.Nerada on August 12, 2010 at 2:43 PM

At least every penny will be accounted for, and there will be no possibility of waste, fraud and abuse…

Oh, wait!

Seven Percent Solution on August 12, 2010 at 2:44 PM

Wow. I am in the process of starting a new business, (2nd job) and financing it all by myself. I considered a loan, but decided to proceed slowly and self finance. I would love a free $50K loan! I could get product in place in a month and start selling, and quickly hire a person or 2 who may be strapped for a mortgage payment. That would increase the tax base, and earn the government some money for their “free” loan.
But it makes sense, so it won’t work that way.

redshirt on August 12, 2010 at 2:44 PM

If the Dems hadn’t jacked up the real estate market in the first place, we might not have NEEDED to recover.

True, it wouldn’t have been nearly as bad.

Still, it’s just like the whole climate change debate. Yes there will be highs and lows over time, for a variety of reasons, but trying to force changes is amazingly foolish.

The economy is a bit like the climate in some ways, except that when fools meddle with the economy they can do some serious damage.

reaganaut on August 12, 2010 at 2:44 PM

The Democrat Party has gone down to the bunker where it will continue to make war on the economy until the Republicans take over. This will get much worse.
Randy

williars on August 12, 2010 at 2:44 PM

just an fyi: We wrote our Congressman Duncan D. Hunter after more then a year of being run around by a local shyster along with B of A. Within four weeks, B of A was knocking on our door offering us a fixed rate 40 year loan with payments $600 less then we’d been paying. Co0ntact your congressperson. They can help if you can get them off their backside. They can get the loan people off their backside!!!

Vntnrse on August 12, 2010 at 2:45 PM

One down, what’s next, free gas?

Electrongod on August 12, 2010 at 2:45 PM

angryed on August 12, 2010 at 2:36 PM

You’re too optimistic. Visit the HUD site. No recourse. No one will ever pay these back.

lorien1973 on August 12, 2010 at 2:46 PM

Vntnrse on August 12, 2010 at 2:45 PM

Sounds like you got a USDA loan. With a 1% interest rate.

upinak on August 12, 2010 at 2:47 PM

One down, what’s next, free gas?

Electrongod on August 12, 2010 at 2:45 PM

already done. Chavez has that gig.

upinak on August 12, 2010 at 2:47 PM

lorien1973 on August 12, 2010 at 2:46 PM

I have to figure 5% of people are somewhat honest.

angryed on August 12, 2010 at 2:49 PM

Remind me, what the hell am I working for? I know that sounds callous in light of todays economy but I have always observed that times of greatest crisis also led to the greatest levels of achievement, innovation, and progress.

Yes it is painful, but trying to shield people from the pain only prolongs the agony and delays the inevitable.

I am just sick of it. This is like a taxpayer funded participation trophy like they do the children in some sports activities. Pat ‘em on the head, take ‘em for ice cream and pizza and make the boo-boo go away.

*Sigh* I give up. I pursued the American Dream the old fashioned way but I see now what a fool I was.

Just A Grunt on August 12, 2010 at 2:50 PM

Who says Barry hasn’t created jobs?

Foreclosure specialists, repo men and soup kitchens are BOOMING thanks to the Obama economic whiz kids!

NoDonkey on August 12, 2010 at 2:50 PM

So people who can’t pay their current bills – get a loan?

jake-the-goose on August 12, 2010 at 2:26 PM

I prefer to call it a grant, cause you know it’s never gonna be paid back.

Johnnyreb on August 12, 2010 at 2:52 PM

Soooo, all I have to do is quit my job, file for unemployment, and then I can get a $50l interest free loan to buy a house?

This is discrimination. How can you possibly favor one section of the population with interest free loans while another section lives up to their obligations and gets nothing. Are they insane? Well, yes, they are.

scalleywag on August 12, 2010 at 2:53 PM

Someone needs to tell Obama that when he’s turning things around at some point you have to stop before you’re just turning in circles.

moonsbreath on August 12, 2010 at 2:54 PM

These liberal political slugs in Washington are sucking the life blood out of all responsible, productive ,hard working Americans.

rplat on August 12, 2010 at 2:54 PM

Is it the lifelong servitude to the libs that I’ll be signing away for the measly 50 grand? How can anybody expect me to live on such paltry money?

Can I join the MAO’s “Best Friends” program?

Sir Napsalot on August 12, 2010 at 2:54 PM

You people have this all wrong…

… You can’t just triple the size of government and have all those people sitting around with nothing to do.

/

Seven Percent Solution on August 12, 2010 at 2:56 PM

*Sigh* I give up. I pursued the American Dream the old fashioned way but I see now what a fool I was.

Just A Grunt on August 12, 2010 at 2:50 PM

you, 1, everyone on HA and 80% of Americans.

I wonder how the moderates are feeling right now? Or how about those people who voted Obama because they just couldn’t vote for McCain.

Be ticked off at these fools.

upinak on August 12, 2010 at 2:56 PM

This is more transformation of wealth from those who have money to those who have none. And for the most part, those who have none haven’t worked an honest day in their life and certainly don’t intend to ever hold a job after this POSPOTUS has finished raping this country.

We are truly living with a Socialist government and have been for years. It took Obama to finally pull the masks off our Congressmen and Congresswomen and expose them for what they really are.

We are absolutely powerless to do anything about it other than join the game and get in bed with them. Even if many of the scoundrels are replaced in November, the true change needed to save the United States will never come about. We are doomed!

metroryder on August 12, 2010 at 2:56 PM

Are we Zimbawe yet?

ORconservative on August 12, 2010 at 2:43 PM

No, but we’re close to catching Greece!

scalleywag on August 12, 2010 at 2:57 PM

Those of you above who said “these loans will never be repaid”, get it. Just another version of ‘college tuition loans’.

Vote buying sure is getting expensive…..

BigWyo on August 12, 2010 at 2:26 PM

I think that says the most about it, with the fewest words.

listens2glenn on August 12, 2010 at 2:57 PM

I wonder if this action is the result of the anger generated when the regime floated the trial balloon of forgiving the mortgages outright.

People were infuriated with the idea of forgiving the principal, but what actually does this loan amount to? As someone posted above, its a 50k gift to people who probably cant or wont pay it back.

Wow, that’s brilliant.

dogsoldier on August 12, 2010 at 2:59 PM

Upinak: you may very well be right. It is 1%, but it’s also much less then we were paying.

So you may be right!

Vntnrse on August 12, 2010 at 3:02 PM

I’ve been messing with some credit card companies.

Get this. I’ve recorded every conversation. They get nervous about this. They can record YOU, but YOU can’t record them.

Anyway, GE, Citi, BOA & Chase are all tied to Western Union. I just had some dimwit admit that to me. Western Union collects fees for every online payment that you make. So, if you have online banking and you pay a bill, it has to go through Western Union first and they post the date of the payment (despite what your bank says).

I had another unwitting person also recorded, who openly admitted that all of the banks have Servicing Agents who might… might… just happen to be overseas as in India. So, if you’re an American that pays his/her bills online to one of the bailout banks, and if you pay on time online? Your payment will not be posted. And then?

Your entire account’s interest rate is bumped from 9.2 to 29.999% because… awwe, they didn’t post it when you paid even if you have proof to show it posted.

I kid you not.

Key West Reader on August 12, 2010 at 3:04 PM

Those of you above who said “these loans will never be repaid”, get it. Just another version of ‘college tuition loans’.

Vote buying sure is getting expensive…..

BigWyo on August 12, 2010 at 2:26 PM

I think that says the most about it, with the fewest words.

listens2glenn on August 12, 2010 at 2:57 PM

Spend other people’s money to buy votes. Commit massive voter fraud (decade after decade) using criminal groups like ACORN……

Why? Sounds to me like a criminal enterprise with no salable ideas, right? Right. They’re called Democrats.

In former days they were known as the Mafia.

Cody1991 on August 12, 2010 at 3:06 PM

Two words: Cloward-Piven

shick on August 12, 2010 at 3:06 PM

That lady during Obama’s 2008 campaign was right: Obama was going to make her housing payment. As someone said earlier, free gas must be next.

BuckeyeSam on August 12, 2010 at 3:06 PM

Wouldn’t it be a lot easier if America had it’s free economy back and people had good paying jobs?

I mean how many times do we have to re-run FDR Fascism before we declare total failure. It seem like Obama and the Democrats hadn’t had a new idea since 1848 Marxism came out from under a rock.

tarpon on August 12, 2010 at 3:06 PM

To fix the foreclosure crisis, the Obama administration has to abandon its top-down, command-economy policies and eliminate the uncertainties that its massive expansion of the regulatory state and of the national debt has created.

No, Ed, this is not what the Osama Obama regime “has” to do.

The government needs to get the hell out of the mortgage/giveaway racket, just as it needs to quit meddling with the economy as a whole.

Those who can’t afford — and often could never afford — inflated housing prices need to suck it up and rent. Those who can afford to buy should be freed of the burden of paying for the greed and stupidity of others.

I can’t afford to buy a house, and I admit a fast, free $50K would help me a lot. But I don’t expect the government to provide it to me.

And, apparently unlike you, Ed, I believe any meddling in my life by D.C. is not worth the pain it inflicts on others and, eventually, on me.

Oh, yeah: if you believe that “foreclosures decreasing! news, Ed, I bet you just love the gubmint’s jobs data….

MrScribbler on August 12, 2010 at 3:09 PM

“a vain attempt”

This phrase sums up the Obama presidency perfectly.

Fallon on August 12, 2010 at 3:10 PM

If your neighbor has two chickens…..

BobMbx on August 12, 2010 at 3:11 PM

And what happens when people inevitably default on these loans? Will the government really let them get kicked out their homes?

Doughboy on August 12, 2010 at 2:30 PM

come on that won’t happen….at least not till AFTER the election….

unseen on August 12, 2010 at 2:34 PM

It will provide homeowners with emergency zero-interest rate loans of up to $50,000 for up to two years.

There’s a reason why the term for these “loans” is two years. All the defaults start to happen just after the next presidential election.

Buying votes ain’t cheap.

AZCoyote on August 12, 2010 at 3:12 PM

Upinak: you may very well be right. It is 1%, but it’s also much less then we were paying.

So you may be right!

Vntnrse on August 12, 2010 at 3:02 PM

The USDA use to have a rural loan for people who had a certain income and it was a 45 yr loan at 1% interest, but would be checked on yearly if they were paying OVER their loan amount. Don’t pay over your amount. And be careful if you decide to try to refinance if you can a couple years down the raod as it will have a HUGE ballon payment.

upinak on August 12, 2010 at 3:16 PM

Wouldn’t it be a lot easier if America had it’s free economy back and people had good paying jobs?

I mean how many times do we have to re-run FDR Fascism before we declare total failure. It seem like Obama and the Democrats hadn’t had a new idea since 1848 Marxism came out from under a rock.

tarpon on August 12, 2010 at 3:06 PM

You’re absolutely right. Discussing economics with hard left liberals is as crazy as discussing illegal “immigration” vs immigration. It leaves one banging one’s head on the table.

What’s really going on here is more insanity on the part of the administration. They are hell bent on destroying the middle class. Classic Alinsky, Marxist/Communist agenda.

As usual they haven’t figured out that the people who actually fund their dreams, aka our nightmares, are the middle class. The rich stay rich, and the Apparatchicks are added to their rolls (using our money).

In the end, the obvious happens. There is no one left to fund anything. Chaos reigns (note what was happening in Atlanta recently). There are the poor which now includes the former aspiring class and the rich.

Rinse, wash and repeat.

Cody1991 on August 12, 2010 at 3:16 PM

Can’t believe you folks, bi#ching about 3 billions.

Don’t you see? Obama’s trying so hard to presidenting…..
He’s saved us 100 millions (or somenting) last year.

“You’d think they’d be thanking me. Hahahah…”

Sir Napsalot on August 12, 2010 at 3:20 PM

I’m afraid I already know the answer to this but they’re not really going to give the $50K directly to these people, are they? There must be some type of account they put the money in, so that a small amount could be taken at a time to help them make the monthly payments, correct? Because to give $50K cash directly to desperate people whose credit is probably already in the crapper would invite all sorts of abuse. The odds on ever seeing any of this money again is close to nil. This is like the $2,500 Katrina debit cards times twenty.

PatMac on August 12, 2010 at 3:21 PM

So how does this work?

Hypothetically I pay my mortgage, lose my job, and can’t pay.

So I get a 50K “loan” from the government to pay my mortgage for now, with 0 interest that I have to pay back in 2 years… somehow.

Assuming best case, I get a new job; now I have two loan payments stacked on top of me, one for my mortgage (which I used the 50K to pay) and another for the government? Plus any living expenses/credit card/car payment debt that stacked up while I was unemployed.

What exactly are the odds that I’m going to be able to pay back that $50,000 on top of everything else vs. the odds of that (and the other loans) never getting paid back because I’m too far in debt to make a go of it and declare bankruptcy anyhow?

Is this really likely to help people? And for those it might help, do they really need help?

gekkobear on August 12, 2010 at 3:22 PM

Because to give $50K cash directly to desperate people whose credit is probably already in the crapper would invite all sorts of abuse. The odds on ever seeing any of this money again is close to nil. This is like the $2,500 Katrina debit cards times twenty.

PatMac on August 12, 2010 at 3:21 PM

It is what it is. Yes, these people will be flush with $50k cash. Obama delivers.

Key West Reader on August 12, 2010 at 3:26 PM

So I get a 50K “loan” from the government to pay my mortgage for now, with 0 interest that I have to pay back in 2 years… somehow.

Assuming best case, I get a new job; now I have two loan payments stacked on top of me, one for my mortgage (which I used the 50K to pay) and another for the government? Plus any living expenses/credit card/car payment debt that stacked up while I was unemployed.

What exactly are the odds that I’m going to be able to pay back that $50,000 on top of everything else vs. the odds of that (and the other loans) never getting paid back because I’m too far in debt to make a go of it and declare bankruptcy anyhow?

Is this really likely to help people? And for those it might help, do they really need help?

gekkobear on August 12, 2010 at 3:22 PM

$50K over two years with 0% interest comes to $2,083.34 per month payment…….on top of the other bills the unemployed ‘homeowner’ has to pay.

Vashta.Nerada on August 12, 2010 at 3:26 PM

Is this really likely to help people? And for those it might help, do they really need help?

gekkobear on August 12, 2010 at 3:22 PM

The loan isn’t designed to be paid back. It’s reparations at $50k a pop.

Key West Reader on August 12, 2010 at 3:27 PM

They can’t be serious. How is this not an incentive for people to stop paying thier mortgage? I mean, how many people are going to pass up 50K just so they can do the responsible thing? Judging by all those lined up to get “Obama Money” my guess is not many.

Vera on August 12, 2010 at 3:28 PM

Hmmmm. So, I can let go mah house paymint fo three months and sit on mah poach and get unemployments and den sit some moe and gits moe moneys.

I loves me some Obamas. Yep indeed I lub me sum dat Obamas. Gimme dat cash.

Key West Reader on August 12, 2010 at 3:31 PM

It’s reparations at $50k a pop.

Fine. Do it and be done with it. Openly advertise that this is what you’re plan is and then STFU about racial entitlements forever.

Vera on August 12, 2010 at 3:31 PM

Your* gah

Vera on August 12, 2010 at 3:32 PM

I believe these are non-recourse subordinated loans….ie you don’t have to pay back if you don’t want to. A better term is walking around money.

r keller on August 12, 2010 at 3:32 PM

Is this really likely to help people? And for those it might help, do they really need help?

gekkobear on August 12, 2010 at 3:22 PM

No. They just file for unemployment as BO told Jindal or they go on welfare.

Part of the plan.

And vote Dem.

The idea is to make the entire nation a GIANT plantation.

Cody1991 on August 12, 2010 at 3:35 PM

Just remember:

Credit is a civil right.

Everyone has a right to credit, regardless of their ability to pay!

PackerBronco on August 12, 2010 at 3:35 PM

Openly advertise that this is what you’re plan is and then STFU about racial entitlements forever.

Vera on August 12, 2010 at 3:31 PM

Ain’t going to happen. Never. Ever.

The “debt” is never paid. Never.

Got it?

Cody1991 on August 12, 2010 at 3:37 PM

PackerBronco on August 12, 2010 at 3:35 PM

And according to the commercials defaulting on that credit is NEVER your fault. In fact it’s the fault of the EVIL bank!

Vera on August 12, 2010 at 3:37 PM

Bridge (loan) to nowhere …

PackerBronco on August 12, 2010 at 3:37 PM

What exactly are the odds that I’m going to be able to pay back that $50,000 on top of everything else vs. the odds of that (and the other loans) never getting paid back because I’m too far in debt to make a go of it and declare bankruptcy anyhow?

gekkobear on August 12, 2010 at 3:22 PM

Looks like the ‘sweet spot’ in this deal is to grab a house worth 50k, then pick a fight with the boss and get fired. You get 99 weeks of unemployment and free rent! Should nicely carry you over till the next presidential election.

As for the 50k loan, at 0% interest, the next question is the amortization schedule. If it is amortized over 30 years then the payment would be $139 a month. On the other hand, if it is a 0% loan with interest only payments, then the monthly payment is NOTHING!

Freddy on August 12, 2010 at 3:39 PM

Hello, I’m from the Treasury Dept. and see that you are underwater already….

Would you like a boat anchor, now?

ajacksonian on August 12, 2010 at 3:45 PM

Bridge (loan) to nowhere …

PackerBronco on August 12, 2010 at 3:37 PM

Ummm ya mind on that? Or I will make fun of your football team!

upinak on August 12, 2010 at 3:45 PM

According to the Dems, the Stimulus monies are dedicated to projects – one of their points when dismissing the GOP’s call for using those funds for unemployment benefits.

If this is a new initiative (and those stimulus funds are already spoken for) how can they justify both stances?

Either the funds are already spoken for – and they’re pulling them away from something else to pay for this – OR they lied and just choose to use them where THEY see fit, not where the GOP suggests.

Which is it?

jrlingreenbay on August 12, 2010 at 3:46 PM

Problem: People can’t pay their debts.

Solution: Loan them more money they won’t be able to repay!

dczombie on August 12, 2010 at 3:51 PM

Your entire account’s interest rate is bumped from 9.2 to 29.999% because… awwe, they didn’t post it when you paid even if you have proof to show it posted.

I kid you not.

Key West Reader on August 12, 2010 at 3:04 PM

That sh*t is illegal now. The credit card bill passed last year prohibits banks from screwing around with posting dates of payments made in good faith by the borrower, and it seriously restricts the use of high “default rates.” There’s also a private right of action for violations. So if your bank is doing that now, you should sue the hell out of it.

rockmom on August 12, 2010 at 3:54 PM

How many votes is that intended to buy?

GarandFan on August 12, 2010 at 3:54 PM

If you push fluids without stopping the hemorrhaging, you just wind up with longer suffering and a bigger puddle on the floor.

redshirt on August 12, 2010 at 3:55 PM

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