Devastating: America’s new folk hero might actually be total jackass

posted at 9:30 pm on August 12, 2010 by Allahpundit

Old theory: Steven Slater’s a Beale-esque everyman striking a blow for dignity in a stressed-out, recession-plagued world. New theory: Steven Slater’s a D-bag who needs to lay off the sauce.

First Obama, now this. Must all of America’s new gods fail, my friends?

Then there’s passenger Kati Doebler. She said that Slater’s story about getting the cut on his head when a passenger dropped a piece of luggage on him from the overhead compartment at the end of the flight — the incident that triggered the cursing on the PA system, and the escape on the chute — may not be true.

In fact, Slater’s legal aide attorney, Howard Turman, told the media on Thursday Slater actually suffered the injury in Pittsburgh, before Flight 1052 even took off.

Before any of that happened, Doebler said, passengers saw the bleeding cut as soon as they boarded, and she said Slater never bandaged it. And, she said, there was that drink he always seemed to be carrying.

“One of the times he passed by me he was carrying what could either have been a drink for himself, and that was a little bit of the impression I got, as he was kind of waving it about like it was his own cocktail,” Doebler said.

Investigators are looking into claims by several passengers that Slater seemed to be irritable and unsteady, as if drinking, even throwing the mask and life jacket to the ground, some said, during the demonstration.

A CBS radio producer onboard the flight claims Slater hit the back of his seat and demanded that he return it to the upright position, even though it, er, already was in the upright position. As for the mysterious cut on his head, we were initially told that that happened at the end of the flight when a passenger dropped a bag on him, thus supposedly spurring his deploying of the emergency chute in a fit of righteous rage. Not so much, as it turns out. In fact, the Journal’s hearing that if there was an altercation with a passenger, Slater might have started it:

Marjorie Briskin, a 53-year-old schoolteacher from Pittsburgh, said she was deplaning in John F. Kennedy International Airport around noon Monday when Mr. Slater and a woman walking in front of her got into a heated conversation over the woman’s luggage. She said the passenger, who appeared to be in her 20s, asked Mr. Slater where her bag was stowed.

Ms. Briskin said the seemingly normal conversation turned unexpectedly nasty when Mr. Slater blurted out an expletive to the passenger…

Lauren Dominijanni, 25, who was flying to New York on business, said Mr. Slater was rude to her the moment she got on the plane.

She said someone had spilled coffee on her seat and when she asked for a sanitary wipe to clean it up, Mr. Slater “rolled his eyes at me and said, ‘What?’ in a real rude manner.”

Ms. Dominijanni, of Pittsburgh, said that when she pointed to the spilled coffee, Mr. Slater barked, “No! Maybe when we get in the air! I need to take care of myself first, honey!” She said he was pointing to the gash on his head.

There are even more reports of strange behavior, but that’s all I can safely quote. Follow the links up top. As if all this isn’t bad enough, Jet Blue sent around a memo to employees earlier today reminding them that deploying the chute is no laughing matter since it springs open “with enough force to kill a person.” If Slater was soused and/or woozy from that knock on the head, he’s lucky there was no one on the tarmac in the wrong place at the wrong time. Silver-lining exit question: Should we be grateful that he didn’t try to parachute out mid-flight a la D.B. Cooper?

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Rod on August 13, 2010 at 6:29 AM

That wimp needs a good dose of John Wayne’s true grit discipline dealt.

maverick muse on August 13, 2010 at 8:03 AM

And so it begins,Anarchy,Mayhem,and Kaos aboard another
flight involving another “incident”!!

This time a pillow fight!!!!!!!
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Flight attendant starts mid-air pillow fight

A flight attendant received a round of applause from passengers for taking part in a mass pillow fight at 20,000ft.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/travelnews/7942462/Flight-attendant-starts-mid-air-pillow-fight.html

canopfor on August 13, 2010 at 8:05 AM

Steven Slater and Judge Walker have a lot in common. Both derive pleasure from having screwed people over to fluff their egos and satiate their demand for attention and acceptance. Slater managed to inconvenience several dozens or a couple hundred people with his pouting tantrum. Judge Walker managed to screw over seven million voters with his pouting tantrum, his election cancellation and his attempts to have his sham trial televised.

Both have similarly defective personalities; completely willing to do whatever possible to be in the public’s face with efforts to force a captive-audience public to accept their abnormalities as normal… pretending the victim all the while.

viking01 on August 13, 2010 at 8:22 AM

Not to say ‘I told you so,’ but. . . many of us have been saying from the first that the guy was a jackass.

From the beginning, the popularity of this story has mystified me. You’d think that we all suffer from an excess of restraint and self-possession, the way that some people were applauding someone for cursing in front of planeful of innocent passengers, abandoning them while responsible for their safety, and abusing emergency equipment. What part of this story wasn’t total jackassery from moment one?

Chuckles3 on August 13, 2010 at 8:30 AM

Conversely, jackass that popped the chute of an airplane started off as a jackass and was wrongly tabbed “America’s newest folk hero” by same guy that gaga’s over anything shiny, new, and starts with “i”…./

ted c on August 12, 2010 at 9:55 PM

Hahahahaha, classic!!!

MobileVideoEngineer on August 13, 2010 at 8:32 AM

Who cares? He is still a hero in my mind.

“The Customer Is Always Right” is absolute hogwash. Repeating the same stuff, time after time, day after day, with customers who should know better gets tiring.

“Oops~! Spilled coffee on my seat! Can you get me a towel?”

I would eyeroll, too.

Well, guess what. If you are in business of serving countless people, day after day, some are going to spill their coffee. If that causes you to roll your eyes, it’s not because people are jerks, it’s because you shouldn’t be in the service business.

People do this all the time. We’ve lost the power of no. I don’t care how many anecdotes can be drawn about this guy’s “attitude” — “customers’” attitudes are often the most stank, self-important, and unwarranted of them all.

lansing quaker on August 12, 2010 at 10:35 PM

Well, but so what? This is the collective guilt fallacy. I’ve had airline personnel be incredibly rude to me — that doesn’t give me a license to be obnoxious to other airline personnel. If customer A is rude to you, that doesn’t give you the right to be rude to customer B. And if you lump “customers” together in your mind as people who irritate you, rather than reacting to them based on what they’ve done indvidually, that is your own damage, nobody else’s.

Chuckles3 on August 13, 2010 at 8:42 AM

lol, that picture remind you of anything?

“This? why I can make a hat, or a broach, or a pterodactyl”

MechEng5by5 on August 13, 2010 at 8:43 AM

What it all boils down to is if the pouting goofball doesn’t like his airline job then perhaps he should consider interior decorating. Then any customers unwilling to indulge him can leave his theatrical realm without needing a parachute.

viking01 on August 13, 2010 at 8:48 AM

He had a perfectly good paying job, and he sacrificed it in a fit of pique. Since my husband and son would love to be employed at this point, even in a job they could gripe about, I have no sympathy for Mr. Slater. He knew what the job was when he took it. Whadda maroon!

College Prof on August 13, 2010 at 8:49 AM

“The Customer Is Always Right” is absolute hogwash. Repeating the same stuff, time after time, day after day, with customers who should know better gets tiring.

Btw, as an antidote to this attitude, I’ll repeat a story about Joe DiMaggio. A reporter once asked DiMaggio whether it was difficult to continue making his best efforts on the field, given the endless demands of the public and press.

I’m paraphrasing, but in effect, DiMaggio said, “No, it’s not difficult. I just try to remember every time I take the field that somewhere in the stands is a kid who is seeing me for the first, and possibly the only, time.”

Chuckles3 on August 13, 2010 at 8:56 AM

inviolet on August 13, 2010 at 7:27 AM

Sorry, thought the / would be unnecessary. Picture is a hoot.

Cindy Munford on August 13, 2010 at 8:57 AM

AP since you want heroes tell me the names of the highest decorated soldiers from the Iraq and Afghanistan wars? Amazing how Steve Slater has received more press then either of these nameless men. Then again Hot Air has talked more about Slater then either of these men also.

Jdripper on August 13, 2010 at 9:02 AM

… tell me the names of the highest decorated soldiers from the Iraq and Afghanistan wars? – Jdripper

Medal of Honor -

Iraq: Ross MacGinnis, Paul Smith, Micheal Monsoor, Jason Dunham

Afghanistan: Micheal Murphy, Jared Monti

Somalia: Gary Gordon, Randy Shughart

All posthumous.

Tony737 on August 13, 2010 at 9:13 AM

Tony737 on August 13, 2010 at 9:13 AM

Right out of the ballpark!!!!!! Glad you were available.
The video of Micheal Monsoor’s services turns me into a bowl of weeping mush.

Cindy Munford on August 13, 2010 at 9:16 AM

From CanOpFor’s link …


Far from condemning the on-board horseplay, the airline paid tribute to the attendant for making the flight from Tel Aviv to Frankfurt more enjoyable for passengers.

Good job Lufthansa!

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Cindy Munford on August 13, 2010 at 9:16 AM

Thank you Cindy, I have those names memorized and I’ll make sure my kids know these names too.

I have videos of each one of them in my YouTube *Favorite* section, just in case I have a “bad day” and I need a reminder of what really matters in life.

Tony737 on August 13, 2010 at 9:22 AM

Steven Slater and Judge Walker have a lot in common. viking01 on August 13, 2010 at 8:22 AM

I heard they’re dating.

Akzed on August 13, 2010 at 9:23 AM

Well, the story was refreshing for its short life.

Sure beats the dominating Illegal Alien Sob Stories that are so popular.

TimBuk3 on August 13, 2010 at 9:26 AM

Schadenfreude on August 13, 2010 at 1:01 AM

Wow, thanks man, that’s like the best compliment anybody in this business could ever get! haha

Jenfidel on August 13, 2010 at 1:23 AM

Jen, give SWA a try, it’s different from the other carriers, you might be pleasently suprised! :-)

Tony737 on August 13, 2010 at 9:37 AM

Tony737 on August 13, 2010 at 9:37 AM

SWA is my first choice every time. If I had money I would buy stock.

Cindy Munford on August 13, 2010 at 9:46 AM

Who cares? He is still a hero in my mind.

“The Customer Is Always Right” is absolute hogwash. Repeating the same stuff, time after time, day after day, with customers who should know better gets tiring.

“Oops~! Spilled coffee on my seat! Can you get me a towel?”

I would eyeroll, too.

After which I’d fire you – which I’ve done in the past – with people just like you who think work mean “give me a check each week but don’t expect me to actually do anything to earn it.”

If you don’t like dealing with people and can’t accept the fact that the customer always comes first, (the one’s that actually pay your salary) then get a job as a dog catcher.

Rod on August 13, 2010 at 9:53 AM

Cindy Munford on August 13, 2010 at 9:46 AM

Cindy, if you’re ever on my flight, your drinks are free! :-)

Tony737 on August 13, 2010 at 9:56 AM

SWA is my first choice every time. If I had money I would buy stock.

Cindy Munford on August 13, 2010 at 9:46 AM

We LOVE SWA and fly with them every trip. In fact, when booking our latest flight, I went out of my way to tell the customer service dept. that they do a great job start to finish.

Grace_is_sufficient on August 13, 2010 at 9:58 AM

Tony737 on August 13, 2010 at 9:56 AM

JAX to ORF.

Cindy Munford on August 13, 2010 at 10:01 AM

Grace_is_sufficient on August 13, 2010 at 9:58 AM

+ One Trillion

Cindy Munford on August 13, 2010 at 10:01 AM

Sorry, thought the / would be unnecessary. Picture is a hoot.

Cindy Munford on August 13, 2010 at 8:57 AM

Am sooo gullible. LOL Sorry bout that.

inviolet on August 13, 2010 at 10:28 AM

JAX to ORF. – Cindy

That one’s too short for my Medal of Honor trivia question on the mic, but, after landing, if you hear something like “This is for the pretty girl in row 5 that didn’t give me her phone number …” (then “You Lost That Lovin’ Feeling” comes on) you’ll know it’s me! Haha :-) make sure to say hello!

I have had a few HotAir readers (but not commenters) onboard, they got free drinks too. I saw them reading H.A. before it was time for everybody to turn off their devices.

Tony737 on August 13, 2010 at 10:31 AM

Wait, you’re telling me that the guy who acted like a total jackass is actually…a total jackass?

Whoah.

CatsGodot on August 13, 2010 at 10:32 AM

Grace_is_sufficient on August 13, 2010 at 9:58 AM

Grace, everytime you fly, if you have a male F/A, look at his name tag, if it says Tony, indroduce yourself as Grace from HotAir, if he looks at you like you’re cray, it isn’t me! Haha! :-) But if it is me, you’ll get a free drink! (black hair, 5’11, blue shirt, Air Force pin on the collar).

Tony737 on August 13, 2010 at 10:36 AM

Well, that confirms it, they’ve taken away my sole gay hero.

vilebody on August 13, 2010 at 10:43 AM

In this now reativistic world the term hero is one of many words that have been redefined beyond perspecuity. The word hero once referred to someone who puts themself at risk for the sake of others (e.g. miliary, police, firemen).

Please tell me what selfless acts this “hero” performed to deserve the title? From the moment this story first came out his actions screamed nothing but narcisism.

shick on August 13, 2010 at 10:53 AM

reativistic=relativistic

shick on August 13, 2010 at 10:54 AM

What is really galling about this Slater story is that anyone who does anything unusual (odd, crazy, dangerous) becomes an instant folk hero from the media and the Internet playing to easily-impressed “sheeple”.

Then we find out that Slater may have been drunk, and was nasty to several passengers (perhaps because he was hit in the head) during the flight, then cussed out a passenger and jumped down the emergency slide in a non-emergency situation, where the slide could have injured someone on the tarmac–like a baggage handler just doing his job.

Flight attendants do mostly routine tasks like the safety demonstration nobody listens to, stowing bags, serving drinks and snacks, telling passengers a million times to put their seat backs up and turn their cell phones off, etc., but THEY HAVE SERIOUS DUTIES to ensure passenger safety if a plane gets in trouble due to bad weather, turbulence, or mechanical failure.

Yes, Sullenberger was a hero for landing that plane on the Hudson, but his flight attendants also acted calmly and quickly to ensure passenger safety, and escort everyone out on the wings after the plane was down. What if one of them was a drunken loose cannon like Slater, ready to panic and abandon ship if he bumped his head during the landing? Might some of Sullenberger’s passengers have died?

Flight attendants have a very important responsibility, and they need to be sober, calm, and clear-thinking under stress–it’s part of the job. Slater is not worthy of the job, and he could have caused injury or death if he had acted this way in an actual emergency.

Steve Z on August 13, 2010 at 10:55 AM

Who cares? He is still a hero in my mind.

“The Customer Is Always Right” is absolute hogwash. Repeating the same stuff, time after time, day after day, with customers who should know better gets tiring.

“Oops~! Spilled coffee on my seat! Can you get me a towel?”

I would eyeroll, too.

Remind me never to go to any…any…establishment that you ever work in.

There’s big a difference between “the customer is always right” to “being a decent human being.” Hell, even if I wasn’t working for JetBlue in this case, and I had some at my disposal, I would gladly offer up a towel (or napkins or whatever I could) to help a fellow passenger.

This guy isn’t a folk hero. This guy is just a real-life Homer Simpson.

CatsGodot on August 13, 2010 at 10:56 AM

Tony737 on August 13, 2010 at 10:36 AM

They won’t let you put Tony 737 on your name tag? My son worked for a company that wouldn’t let him use his nickname on his badge because it wasn’t professional (it’s a common number substitution)until they hired someone with the same name. Poof! Professionalism out the window.

Cindy Munford on August 13, 2010 at 11:23 AM

inviolet on August 13, 2010 at 10:28 AM

Gullible is good, it keeps you from being jaded.

Cindy Munford on August 13, 2010 at 11:24 AM

They won’t let you put Tony 737 on your name tag? – Cindy

Yeah, they would let me, but I wouldn’t want to put 737 on there because EVERY SWA F/A works on a 737! Haha! I’m just glad they don’t make me wear one that says Anthony! YUCK!

Tony737 on August 13, 2010 at 11:31 AM

Tony737 on August 13, 2010 at 11:31 AM

I hope one day we will meet. HotAir Cruise? Just kidding.

Cindy Munford on August 13, 2010 at 11:39 AM

HotAir Cruise?

GREAT IDEA!

A.P., get on it!

Tony737 on August 13, 2010 at 12:06 PM

The escape hatch moron a jackass? Wow, who saw that coming?

mr.blacksheep on August 13, 2010 at 12:29 PM

I always thought the guy was a jack-a**. Never had a second thought about that, no hesitation in that conclusion.

JetBlue would be irresponsible to rehire this guy, too. Or would any airline.

The fellow (Slater) isn’t a competent attendant. He NEEDS an attendant.

Lourdes on August 13, 2010 at 1:17 PM

Slater ran around on the plane with a bleeding gash on his forehead and didn’t so much as bandage the wound.

I mean, what about public safety? On a plane or otherwise…

Slater’s behavior wasn’t funny, it put the plane and all occupants at risk. He’s a danger to himself and others.

Imagine if he’d taken his freak-out slide a bit earlier, say, during landing or while in flight. With a person like Slater, apparently, one can never be sure just what he’ll do and no way should he ever be in any job that involved public safety.

Lourdes on August 13, 2010 at 1:20 PM

Steven Slater and Judge Walker have a lot in common. viking01 on August 13, 2010 at 8:22 AM

I heard they’re dating.

Akzed on August 13, 2010 at 9:23 AM

Ha, really, viking01, they both appear to have Darth Vader complexes.

Lourdes on August 13, 2010 at 1:23 PM

Brings to mind any number of a**hole bartenders I’ve encountered over the years who simply can’t resist the urge to bring all of their problems to work with them. There seem to be lots of folks in the service industry that are simply not equipped for the work. I don’t fly much so I can’t speak broadly but the times I have flown have never exposed me to any outrageous behavior on the part of the paying public nor on the part of the crews. This pathetic chump was probably having cramps.

LarryG on August 13, 2010 at 1:33 PM

Probably drunk or high on something. Someone sees too many of those stupid housewife’s of whatever, or the john & kate plus 8 and wants in on the action.
Hopefully the media will find another idiot that does something equally stupid, and this one will only be heard from again on Dec 31 when the media has their wrap up of the years garbage.

p51d007 on August 13, 2010 at 1:55 PM

Tony737 on August 13, 2010 at 10:36 AM

You know what I miss? When the pilots came to greet the passengers, and handed the kids their honorary pilot’s wings.

Wish I’d meet you at SJU.

ProudPalinFan on August 13, 2010 at 3:37 PM

Disorientation and change of mental status can be due to a head injury. What a mess.

clnurnberg on August 13, 2010 at 7:56 PM

You know what I miss? When the pilots came to greet the passengers, and handed the kids their honorary pilot’s wings.

Wish I’d meet you at SJU.

- ProudPalinFan on August 13, 2010 at 3:37 PM

P.P.F., you’ll prolly never even see this comment at this point, but anyway, in case you check back in, here’s a funny story for you …

Back before 9/11, when Pilots did what you said, a Pilot buddy of mine pulled a fast one on the Pax. Most people don’t know that there’s an extra “jumpseat” in the cockpit for deadheading Pilots, this guy was on the jumpseat in uniform (so there’s three Pilots in there) and wanted to go out and greet the Pax. While he was out there, another Pilot comes out and goes into the bathroom. People are looking around like “Who the hell’s flying the plane?!” So after a minute the one in the bathroom comes back out and grabs the cockpit door handle and pretends like he can’t get it open! HAHA! People are like “WTF?!” Then he opens the door and the other Pilot still in there waves to them – GOTCHA! Haha :-) That’s why I love SWA!

Tony737 on August 13, 2010 at 8:47 PM

Around 2000-2001(pre 9/11)I took my then 6 or 7 y.o. son up to Chicago’s O’Hare Airport for the day. We spent most of it wandering through the different terminals trying to convince the different airlines to give my son mini-pilot wings.
My son was cute and precocious so he ended up doing very well.
He’s 16 now and we still talk about it.
You can’t take a little boy on a field trip to a major airport anymore-and that’s a shame.

annoyinglittletwerp on August 13, 2010 at 11:16 PM

With the current crop of people at the top, a jackass would be a step up

At least with a jackass, you know which direction he will kick

entagor on August 14, 2010 at 1:30 PM

After which I’d fire you – which I’ve done in the past – with people just like you who think work mean “give me a check each week but don’t expect me to actually do anything to earn it.”

If you don’t like dealing with people and can’t accept the fact that the customer always comes first, (the one’s that actually pay your salary) then get a job as a dog catcher.

Rod on August 13, 2010 at 9:53 AM

Oh, please.

I’ve dismissed personnel too for behavioral issues. That isn’t the point, as we are not talking dismissal. The point I’m making is that “the customer” is a part of a relationship — they are supposed to follow rules just like like staff.

Now, as an owner or manager you can sit and take the perspective of “every dollar is a dollar!” and kow-tow to the most unreasonable requests and demands, as well as the most ridiculous and erroneous of charges. Or you can be a consummate capitalist and if someone does not like your modus operandi, they can move elsewhere into the marketplace and save yourself the time and energy (not to mention the costs contained therein).

Every dollar you make from a customer’s transaction can be a net loss in the time, energy, and investment from staff (salaries are money!), much less compounded by throwing money at the problem to the customer directly — the cure-all for any ridiculous-on-its-face charge by customers.

“I want something more!”

Where do you draw the lines? To wit: how about a teacher giving a failing grade to a student? So the parents go and complain to the teacher; if that is a no, it’s then the Principal; if that is a no, then the Superintendent — and soon the entire school board is involved. Teacher says student deserved to fail: but now multiple people need to “address” this “customer service complaint” (aren’t the parents and students customers and employers of a publicly-funded institution after all?).

You listen to professional recommendations, or you do not. You can always ask for a reasoned explanation to the decision, but — sadly — the culture no longer permits that. It becomes “I want a manager! Well, I want a different manager! I want an owner! I’M TALKING TO AN ATTORNEY!”

Pfft.

That’s my argument. People are not automatrons equipped with an automatic ATM to refund anyone who wraps themselves up in undue self-importance. That attitude gets a hearty “NO”.

The reasoned person who is mindful, courteous, and makes reasoned requests? You’ll probably get it, as well as a bonus.

Turnabout is most assuredly fair play.

lansing quaker on August 14, 2010 at 8:56 PM

You know, I just realized this guy is just like the character Johnny in “Airplane.”

NavyMustang on August 15, 2010 at 2:29 PM

lansing quaker on August 14, 2010 at 8:56 PM

Oh I wish you were my boss. Great post! I have worked in several places that felt no matter how little profit (or loss) you made bending over backwards just to keeping bad customers happy and coming back… when you should really cut them lose.

Apparently some business owners/managers refuse to see the good, polite, appreciative customers wasting their time waiting for those abusers to get their way no matter what. Or worse loss of the clients that plan ahead, keep their appointments on time, pay their bills, and have an appreciation for what it is like to have some courtesy in how most businesses operate.

I personally think there are some who know how to game the system and they enjoy seeing how much they can get, for as little as possible, always on their terms. It is a morale shredder when hard working, decent employees are not backed up and be made to feel like we have to take abuse and swearing and worse even reward those people for their actions.

Managing is a two way street, you must also make sure clients and customers feel like what your selling is a value and worthwhile. This behavior strips way value. The flip side of you get what you pay for. If your not worth it, you won’t defend it. Therefore they don’t expect to pay it.

wi farmgirl on August 15, 2010 at 5:11 PM

Why didn’t anyone employed notice that he was soused?

AnninCA on August 16, 2010 at 9:34 AM

lol, that picture remind you of anything?

“This? why I can make a hat, or a broach, or a pterodactyl”

MechEng5by5

+1, added link

Knott Buyinit on August 16, 2010 at 1:11 PM

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