Bombshell: Fiorina 47, Boxer 42
posted at 4:12 pm on August 12, 2010 by Allahpundit
Probably the single most exciting poll of the season thus far. Not only does it suggest that one of the most loathsome Democrats in Congress is really, truly vulnerable, but if even California’s in play then retaking the Senate might be doable after all.
Midterm fee-vah — catch it!
California Republican U.S. Senate candidate Carly Fiorina has increased her lead over Democratic incumbent Barbara Boxer to five percentage points according to a new CBS 5 KPIX-TV poll released Thursday, which also shows gubernatorial candidates Democrat Jerry Brown and Republican Meg Whitman in a dead heat…
The poll results indicated Fiorina’s support was essentially unchanged among men and women, young and old, white and Hispanic while Boxer had lost small ground among men, younger voters, and independents.
The poll also showed Fiorina tripling her lead in the Central Valley, from seven points one month ago to 21 points in this latest poll.
According to the crosstabs, Fiorina wins 27 percent of the black vote, trails among Hispanics by just six points, and crushes Boxer among indies by 17. There’s no GOP slant in the sample either; it splits 44D, 34R, and 23I. Now here’s where I give you the obligatory eeyore caution: Survey USA’s a respected pollster but they’re the only ones to show Fiorina with a lead this year. Their last poll had her up two points and a Pajamas Media poll taken in June had the race even, but literally everyone else — including Rasmussen — has Boxer ahead by anywhere from five to nine points. So consider these new numbers not so much an answer as a question: Just an outlier, or a leading indicator of a trend in the race? Rasmussen’s last poll did show Fiorina closing in, but only ever so slightly (a two-point gain). Keep this on your radar screen, then, with an eye to confirmation via the next round of polls. Just a little tremor happening in California, or is this the Big One?
Meanwhile, WaPo just moved two more Senate races from “lean Democratic” into the “toss-up” column. Hmmmmm. Exit question: Could the bump for Carly be part of a backlash to the Proposition 8 ruling? She denounced it after it was handed down, but per Survey USA’s analysis, it looks like she hasn’t gained any support so much as Boxer has bled some. And given that part of the bleeding is coming from gay-friendly young voters, I’m thinking … no, probably not the Prop 8 decision. But stay tuned.
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Boom!
perroviejo on August 12, 2010 at 4:12 PM
I blame Boxer’s hair.
CATFIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!elevent11!!!!!!!!!!
ramrants on August 12, 2010 at 4:13 PM
Wonderful. As another poster said in the headlines, I will give this a “small golf clap” and wait until late October to get fired up.
carbon_footprint on August 12, 2010 at 4:13 PM
AP may not believe it will help, but I’m on my knees right now, praying for Boxer to go down in flames (figuratively speaking only).
cynccook on August 12, 2010 at 4:13 PM
RINOs of the world unite!!
angryed on August 12, 2010 at 4:13 PM
Central Valley is VDH territory.
Put Boxer on the shelf.Please.
bbz123 on August 12, 2010 at 4:14 PM
My collie says:
Maybe we should make her beg, collie.
CyberCipher on August 12, 2010 at 4:14 PM
Johnson (LGF) calls the lovely Fiorina a racist in 3-2-1…
perroviejo on August 12, 2010 at 4:14 PM
I have never seen any of her commercials here in SoCal, but the thing is, Fiorina is still leading. That’s example of a tide.
Apologetic California on August 12, 2010 at 4:15 PM
Pffft. This is all Rasmussen lies. No Hispanic will ever vote GOP. Harry told me so. And Time magazine had a cover story about how Republicans have scared off blacks and independents for generations to come.
Therefore this poll is s sham.
angryed on August 12, 2010 at 4:15 PM
Munch, munch, munch.
29Victor on August 12, 2010 at 4:15 PM
I’ll vote for Carly, but I won’t be delirious with joy in the doing. She’s better than Babs, but I’d rather have had Chuck DeVore.
Bob's Kid on August 12, 2010 at 4:15 PM
Behold the power of the demon sheep!
Go, Carly, Go!
I am supporting this lady’s campaign with my wallet and I suggest you all do the same unless you want 6 more years of Senator “Ma’am.”
Jenfidel on August 12, 2010 at 4:15 PM
Yes Ma’am
Many Dems too angry to turnout and vote.
seven on August 12, 2010 at 4:16 PM
Tsunami.
CyberCipher on August 12, 2010 at 4:16 PM
That would be great to see Fiorina defeat Tootsie(sorry, but Boxer looks like Dustin Hoffman in drag). Although I’m still debating who I want to see as Governor of that state. California is about to implode from all their debt and I’d rather they not have 2 consecutive GOP governors when that happens.
Doughboy on August 12, 2010 at 4:16 PM
One can only hope little miss arrogant gets knocked out of her seat by a landslide. But if it’s only by a few points, I’d be loving that too.
scalleywag on August 12, 2010 at 4:17 PM
Allah,
Please don’t fall into the MSM world of absolutes. One can be for gay marriage AND against this. I can see more than a few young “gay friendly” voters being OK with gay marriage but opposed to the ruling itself because the judge used a bogus set of criteria for it. Some people have this amazing ability to think about two issues simultaneously.
angryed on August 12, 2010 at 4:18 PM
The give ‘em enough rope strategy keeps paying dividends.
ronsfi on August 12, 2010 at 4:21 PM
Just wait until the debates. Barbara Boxer is galactically stupid and Carly will make mincemeat out of her.
rockmom on August 12, 2010 at 4:21 PM
Maybe people are starting to decide that they would rather have jobs and an actual economy, rather than what the Democrats offer – handouts and serfdom.
NoDonkey on August 12, 2010 at 4:21 PM
It’s gotta be the hair.
lorien1973 on August 12, 2010 at 4:21 PM
Doughboy on August 12, 2010 at 4:16 PM
You know, if the situation with the CA debt improves (more likely to happen than a CA default, BTW), a Gov. Whitman can take all credit thrown her way for that improving situation.
Quit looking at politics as a way to avoid responsibility. It makes conservatives look bad.
BradSchwartze on August 12, 2010 at 4:22 PM
Anyone hear Rush talking about how Rangel and Boxer are identical, other than their hair and clothes? I was figuring the Left would try and call him a racist for that. But he was right. Long-term corrupt member liberal member of Congress.
hawksruleva on August 12, 2010 at 4:22 PM
CA has way more problems than same sex marriage right now…
And the “gay friendly young voters” just got all they wanted out of Judge Walker, thus taking the issue off the ballot for all intents and purposes.
Jenfidel on August 12, 2010 at 4:23 PM
Boxer like Reid and Peloser has to go. Boxer is so intellectually banrupt that a RINO like Fiorina is a step in the right direction. Not much of a step, but at least the liberal insanity that Boxer represents with her every word will become ancient history.
volsense on August 12, 2010 at 4:23 PM
allahpundit:
.
May they never call you rino again.
rob verdi on August 12, 2010 at 4:24 PM
She’s kinda cute, but no bombshell.
faraway on August 12, 2010 at 4:24 PM
You might be on to something there.
skree on August 12, 2010 at 4:27 PM
I’m all for the GOP taking responsibility and turning this country around. But California is a mess. And it’s not like Meg Whitman would have dictatorial powers. She’d still likely be dealing with a heavily Democratic legislature. Granted, Chris Christie is in a similar predicament in New Jersey, but he’s also got the kind of stones we rarely see in a conservative politician(especially in a blue state).
Doughboy on August 12, 2010 at 4:27 PM
Well “ma’am”, perhaps you could flip a few burgers next year just to stay busy . . . and maybe even earn an honest buck for the first time in you life.
rplat on August 12, 2010 at 4:27 PM
“That’s “former Senator” to you General.”
NoDonkey on August 12, 2010 at 4:28 PM
Where are all the California-bashers? I so enjoy their fairness.
John the Libertarian on August 12, 2010 at 4:28 PM
To have Babs be voted out and Nancy lose the speakership on the same night – Be still my beating heart.
Lou Budvis on August 12, 2010 at 4:28 PM
MSM tabloid headline everywhere on Wednesday morning November 3rd, 2010.
Republicans unexpectedly regain control of U.S. Congress.
Democrats demand recounts in 47 states.
Collie, have you thought about the headline that we will be posting on our blog?
My collie says:
CyberCipher on August 12, 2010 at 4:29 PM
I’ll take a few RINOs in California and Massachusetts any day. It’s the ones in Arizona and South Carolina that are worrisome.
Vigilante on August 12, 2010 at 4:30 PM
If Sarah Palin says that Carly isn’t a RINO, I believe her.
Carly’s only a RINO to bitter DeVore supporters.
Jenfidel on August 12, 2010 at 4:31 PM
Truly, losing one of the great democrats, one of the great minds of the democratic party would be a huge loss.
Kinda brings a tear to my eye….
right2bright on August 12, 2010 at 4:32 PM
That’s funny. Never thought of it that way.
Although I despise her, I always thought Boxer was kind of attractive. Unlike Pelosi, who looks like a creature from a “B” horror movie from the 1950s.
UltimateBob on August 12, 2010 at 4:32 PM
Yes, ma’am, I believe you have worked hard to earn the title “Former Senator from California.”
IrishTexan on August 12, 2010 at 4:32 PM
I’m a literal kind of guy ….
Jerome Horwitz on August 12, 2010 at 4:34 PM
Oh if only Fiorina would actually win then we could get some real hope!
CCRWM on August 12, 2010 at 4:34 PM
I’ll be happy to call Carly Senator!!
RobCon on August 12, 2010 at 4:36 PM
Call me Ma’amitch. I deserve it. :)
hawkman on August 12, 2010 at 4:36 PM
We’ll take it.
Kissmygrits on August 12, 2010 at 4:38 PM
Babs, not much on brains but BIG on attitude, I don’t see how anyone could ever vote for her to be a U.S. Senator, even in California.
tim c on August 12, 2010 at 4:39 PM
UltimateBob on August 12, 2010 at 4:32 PM
Nothing worse than a geriatric hippie chick.
NoDonkey on August 12, 2010 at 4:39 PM
I just moved back to WA from Arizona. I take full credit for moving Rossi up in the polls!
Actually Murray’s ads are really lame. And Rossi’s are pretty good.
Did you know Rossi mopped floors in the Space needle to pay for college? And according to a Murray ad he did some fund raising with Wall Street types! So two pluses!
Murray has gone negative already.
petunia on August 12, 2010 at 4:41 PM
Barbara Boxer and Tootsie. Which one is which?
Doughboy on August 12, 2010 at 4:41 PM
BINGO!!!!
(You stole my thunder there, Quickdraw!)
Sweet_Thang on August 12, 2010 at 4:41 PM
Christmas could come 7 weeks early this year.
silenced majority on August 12, 2010 at 4:42 PM
I never said I thought she wouldn’t smell. :-)
UltimateBob on August 12, 2010 at 4:43 PM
Goldang AP. take off the gay colored lenses. While the prop8 may be a contributor to this poll, does it have to be gay this gay that ? There are far far greater issues at hand in CA, like the freakin state going under, than there is about what Steven Slater was thinking when he was popping the chute in the plane, or back at the crib with his fella. can i get a witness?
ted c on August 12, 2010 at 4:44 PM
From the Headline thread, but I think worth re-posting.
mwdiver on August 12, 2010 at 4:44 PM
I want to see this headline on a cool morning in November…
NO MA’AM
JonPrichard on August 12, 2010 at 4:44 PM
Good one. Given those two choices, I’d probably rather date Tootsie.
UltimateBob on August 12, 2010 at 4:45 PM
Think I’ll put a auction on ebay for the 1st right to call Boxer Shorts a ‘loser‘
Wade on August 12, 2010 at 4:45 PM
Professional liberals might just stay home.
Akzed on August 12, 2010 at 4:45 PM
I don’t want to get too excited, but yeah, this would be very, very good.
Rasmussen came to the party with a whole basketfull of goodies for us today.
Oh, and fu*k Mark Kirk, of course.
Jaibones on August 12, 2010 at 4:46 PM
No kidding. One liberal for another. And the worst kind of liberal is a Republican liberal.
BowHuntingTexas on August 12, 2010 at 4:47 PM
If the sample is 44% Democrats and Boxer only gets 42%, some Democrats are choosing Fiorina. In today’s economy, maybe a green job is one which pays green-backs. Go Carly!
Steve Z on August 12, 2010 at 4:47 PM
ted, It’s Gay Month at HotAir
faraway on August 12, 2010 at 4:48 PM
Doughboy on August 12, 2010 at 4:41 PM
That’s an insult to Tootsie…
sandee on August 12, 2010 at 4:48 PM
It didn’t seem to hurt Kelly Ayotte in New Hampshire, who is up by 13% in the last Rasmussen poll.
Steve Z on August 12, 2010 at 4:49 PM
“dancin’ and a drinkin’”
garry on August 12, 2010 at 4:49 PM
I have to add that my husband recently did some work for a gay couple who hate Obama and think gay marriage is a joke. They say they have a domestic partnership that covers everything marriage does without the headache.
sandee on August 12, 2010 at 4:50 PM
ditto!
cmsinaz on August 12, 2010 at 4:51 PM
I have to add that my husband recently did some work for a gay couple who hate Obama and think gay marriage is a joke. They say they have a domestic partnership that covers everything marriage does without the headache.
sandee on August 12, 2010 at 4:50 PM
Can’t at least one of them run for some kind of office?!?
cynccook on August 12, 2010 at 4:53 PM
At this point, it is still an outlier, though it does confirm a tightening trend, which is not exactly Boxer’s friend.
steveegg on August 12, 2010 at 4:55 PM
All Whitman would have to do is one 30 second spot several weeks following her victory that pointed two fingers – one at the unions and one at illegal immigration – then ask for help overcoming oppostion from the left in Sacramento – and I think we might just tip over Guam coming to her aid and defense.
It all depends upon whether she’s already been bought – or if she’s got the stones to be a Christie.
Given the place in history she’d maintain were she to step up, why would any rational person decide to do otherwise I wonder.
oldfiveanddimer on August 12, 2010 at 4:56 PM
Can’t at least one of them run for some kind of office?!?
cynccook on August 12, 2010 at 4:53 PM
They live in San Francisco. Could you imagine the vitriol they would get running for office there?They are dyed in the wool Republicans and doing quite well financially.
sandee on August 12, 2010 at 4:57 PM
The Donks are wounded and cornered.
Ugly ain’t gonna describe where this is going….
Bruno Strozek on August 12, 2010 at 4:59 PM
I agree
he he he :)
FontanaConservative on August 12, 2010 at 5:00 PM
I have a male employee who has been in a committed heterosexual relationship for several years – but for various reasons is unable to move forward with marriage. He applied for domestic partnership status to benefit his two children from a previous marriage and was told, by the state, that that option is available only to homosexuals.
Since this caveat is presumably to make up for homosexuals inability to get married, I wonder if it will be repealed for gays – or granted for straights.
oldfiveanddimer on August 12, 2010 at 5:00 PM
They live in San Francisco. Could you imagine the vitriol they would get running for office there?They are dyed in the wool Republicans and doing quite well financially.
sandee on August 12, 2010 at 4:57 PM
Ahhh. Bummmer.
cynccook on August 12, 2010 at 5:01 PM
Bruno Strozek on August 12, 2010 at 4:59 PM’
The Democrats have been acting like Charlie Manson since Al Gore failed to steal the 2000 election.
Really ain’t much more that they can push the limits of idiocy, inanity and all around buffoonery.
NoDonkey on August 12, 2010 at 5:07 PM
While I agree Boxer is stupid, have you actually heard or seen Boxer debate? I am not challenging you, but back when I was a CA voter, Boxer was always the leader and refused debates with no repercussions.
marybel on August 12, 2010 at 5:10 PM
I don’t think Boxer has that luxury any more.
UltimateBob on August 12, 2010 at 5:12 PM
Scott Brown redux
Carly is not a conservative , but hey ANYTHING IS better than Boxer , bigger implication is that the White House is in big trouble and maybe they are finally out of gas
Could we ask SANTA to get FEINSTEIN to resign ?
ELMO Q on August 12, 2010 at 5:14 PM
Hope it stays that way, Bob. It always ticked me off that Boxer could get away with that kind of in-your-face stonewalling.
marybel on August 12, 2010 at 5:19 PM
From California, it’s hard to imagine having a Senator, after all these years! A SANE one…
praying.
jodetoad on August 12, 2010 at 5:21 PM
Indeed…or Bye Mam
Schadenfreude on August 12, 2010 at 5:23 PM
Unless you know something about her platform that I don’t, I believe that Fiorina is a conservative.
Jenfidel on August 12, 2010 at 5:27 PM
DONT TEASE ME!
JeffinOrlando on August 12, 2010 at 5:30 PM
Boxer’s # 1 on my list to see go down, followed by Dingy Harry. Seeing those two concession speeches will make my night.
PatMac on August 12, 2010 at 5:31 PM
Funny. Reminds me of a cheer they had us do en masse in high school. The perky cheerleaders would shout “Sportsmanship’s contagious!”, to which we were to respond “Catch it!” Of course, most of us would yell “Cat sh!t”, which sounds suprisingly similar…
miConsevative on August 12, 2010 at 5:33 PM
Jenfidel – she’s more of a conservative than Mark Kirk, and no worse than a Lindsay Graham.
Are Whitman and Fiorina my ideal governor and senator? Not quite. I’d much rather see someone, in particular, prepared to stand up and make the case that carbon regulation is a lie and AB32 has to go.
But we could do far worse, certainly if we get Brown Round Two we’ll be in for far worse than anything we’ve seen in the governor’s office since, well, the last time he was in there.
JEM on August 12, 2010 at 5:36 PM
Yet Sarah Palin endorsed her in the primary, and the Right to Life Committee did as well. I’d like to know why, if she is not a conservative.
rockmom on August 12, 2010 at 5:38 PM
How about Patty Murray’s and Russ Feingold’s, too…and Carnahan’s, Crist’s, Blumenthal’s, etc.?
SWEET.
Jenfidel on August 12, 2010 at 5:40 PM
Carly gets my vote the same day the absentee ballot hits my mailbox…
CAN’T WAIT!!!
Khun Joe on August 12, 2010 at 5:47 PM
Jenfidel on August 12, 2010 at 5:27 PM
I am in the Computer / IT industry and I worked for one of the larger HP disty’s .
Trust me when I tell you Carly is great at pandering , waffling , saying whatever it takes.
Carly was ran out of HP and the stock pride exploded in mere weeks , she was an idiot at HP and burned many bridges by saying and promising one thing in public then doing a 180 when the time came to take action
She is pandering and lying . I hope she gets elected
Do you really thin Carly supports CCW? where are the photos of her at the range ? SUUUUUUUUUUUUUURE she supports the 2nd amendment , but that doesn’t mean she thinks INDIVIDUALS can actually own a gun MUCH LESS have a CCW and carry it in public .
Carly is against illegal immigration , yet she endorses all the ” let em come to work here with a permit , which is code for ” yeah we can’t send them home ”
Carly supports the death penalty !! REALLY no one has been executed in California since before Senator Byrd went to D.C
EASY to say things like this when you know there is no chance of it happening in California .
Then again I live in Alabama where you can buy ammo at the gas station , and guns are sold in the newspaper , and CCW permits take 5 minutes and 20 bucks , no training no classes . Of course no one can remember when a NON MINORITY shot a person here .
Carly is RINO at best .
IF you need to define wha ta CONSERVATIVE SENATOR is google
JEFF SESSIONS .. he is actually a prosecutor
ELMO Q on August 12, 2010 at 5:48 PM
Yet Sarah Palin endorsed her in the primary, and the Right to Life Committee did as well. I’d like to know why, if she is not a conservative.
rockmom on August 12, 2010 at 5:38 PM
HMMM by using this same logic the NRA is endorsing HARRY REID , so that makes him CONSERVATIVE ?
Big money is trying to get BOXER thrown out and I hope they accomplish it . I would like Carly to win, but she is no more a conservative than Scott Brown or Snow or Collins
R-I-N-O
ELMO Q on August 12, 2010 at 5:51 PM
Boxer might debate, but she will hold out for the most insipid format possible, probably hosted by Pacifica or some such nutball lefty organization. Look for an SNL-worthy script.
slickwillie2001 on August 12, 2010 at 6:08 PM
She’s not a RINO.
Here’s how Sarah Palin dealt with the RINO issue:
Jenfidel on August 12, 2010 at 6:40 PM
It won’t matter, the Federal courts have thrown down the gauntlet and will “rule” regardless of who is “elected” (what a quaint word) to Congress or any other position. Afterall, they claim they have the power to make the Constitution say anything they want it to say, and therefore, the power to rule them all.
Fatal on August 12, 2010 at 6:41 PM
It may be somewhat close in the polls now but the enthusiasm of repubs and conservatives will drown Boxer and Brown in the general election.
eaglewingz08 on August 12, 2010 at 6:42 PM
I see schadenfreude in someone’s future. Hopefully it will be mine when Babs bites the big one.
vinceautmorire on August 12, 2010 at 7:00 PM
Yeah, because the GOP doesn’t have nearly enough corrupt career politicians.
DeVore, a corrupt politician came in THIRD out of THREE and wouldn’t have been able to beat Boxer. Carly is going to do it.
gary4205 on August 12, 2010 at 7:06 PM
I have often thought that the decision by Al Gore, after he had already conceded the race, to demand a recount will end up being regarded as one of the most destructive and corrosive decisions ever made by a politician in this country.
txmomof6 on August 12, 2010 at 7:18 PM
This is probably an outlier, but polls are trending well for Fiorina in general, so… keep up the support.
Red Cloud on August 12, 2010 at 8:14 PM
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