Pew: 8% of American births to illegals?

posted at 9:55 pm on August 11, 2010 by Ed Morrissey

Hmmmm.  With some conservatives broaching the possibility of a Constitutional amendment to modify the 14th Amendment to clarify birthright citizenship as requiring at least one parent to be either a citizen or a legal immigrant, a chorus of voices has insisted that the problem of anchor babies doesn’t exist anyway, at least not significantly enough to make it a focus of political action.  However, the nonpartisan Pew Research Center claim that births from illegals amounts to 8% of all American births does tend to put the question in a whole new context:

One in twelve babies born in the U.S. in 2008 were the offspring of illegal immigrants, according to a new study, a statistic that could inflame the debate over birthright citizenship.

Undocumented immigrants make up slightly more than 4% of the U.S. adult population. However, their babies represented twice that share, or 8%, of all births on U.S. soil in 2008, according to the nonpartisan Pew Research Center’s report.

“Unauthorized immigrants are younger than the rest of the population, are more likely to be married and have higher fertility rates than the rest of the population,” said Jeffrey Passel, a senior demographer at Pew in Washington, D.C.

The report, based on Census Bureau data and analysis of demographic characteristics of the undocumented population, also found that the lion’s share, or 79%, of the 5.1 million children of illegal immigrants residing in the U.S. in 2009 were born in the U.S. and therefore citizens.

How many births did the US have in 2008?  That year actually showed a decline … to 4,247,000, down from 4.3 million the year before.  That means the US had around 339,760 births from illegal immigrants in 2008 alone.  Add in Mom and Dad, and suddenly we have close to a million illegal immigrants that the US would have a mighty difficult time deporting — in one year.

If 79% of 5.1 million children are birthright citizens, that makes just over 4 million.  If we again add in just one parent (statistically, probably slightly less, as some families will have only one parent and more than one child), that’s eight million people that can’t be deported.  If we’re adding 340,000 children a year to that total, it’s going to severely complicate enforcement of immigration law no matter what happens in Congress … assuming Congress ever does anything about immigration enforcement.

One way or another, the question of the nature of citizenship will have to get answered.  However, the legal issue may not be as unresolvable as some think.  The 14th Amendment makes one condition in its language: “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.”  So far as I know, that has led courts to consider children born of legal immigrants citizens of the US, since they submitted themselves to the jurisdiction of America and its laws. A case can be made that the clause could restrict birthright citizenship to only those legally in the country — and it would certainly be easier to float a test case with a deportation order than it would be to amend the Constitution.  Why not let the courts have a crack at it first?

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Anybody that has ever been to the Parkland ER could have told them that. Duh.

txmomof6 on August 11, 2010 at 9:57 PM

“Unexpected”

rickyricardo on August 11, 2010 at 9:58 PM

I would bet money it’s more like 15%. It’s disgusting to say the least.

SouthernGent on August 11, 2010 at 9:59 PM

No surprise, not at all…

Need to fix that 14th Amendment RIGHT NOW!!

Khun Joe on August 11, 2010 at 10:01 PM

I have to admit, that is way more than I thought.

Cindy Munford on August 11, 2010 at 10:01 PM

txmomof6 on August 11, 2010 at 9:57 PM

Yeah. And I bet that number is low.

But there is hope. I just got back from dinner with two of the most liberal people I know. He is an anthropology professor at SMU so you can only imagine. She is a former school teacher (history). When illegal immigration came up, her suggestion was land mines and shooting people at the border and his was to change the 14th Ammendment. The Dems are going to have a real big problem if they try to force amnesty.

mrsmwp on August 11, 2010 at 10:01 PM

Woot! Constitutional convention at my house. BYOB.

Let’s get rid of the 16th and 17th amendments while we are at it.

bitsy on August 11, 2010 at 10:02 PM

awww, man… where did my incredibly witty comment go?

bitsy on August 11, 2010 at 10:03 PM

What difference does the 14th make? Currently illegals are welcome by the elites in any case. Hell, even George Bush wanted to make them citizens.

keep the change on August 11, 2010 at 10:03 PM

Is constitutional Con^&$tion a moderated word, now, too? It’s not like I said w@@kie or re^0lution. geez.

bitsy on August 11, 2010 at 10:04 PM

This is how you take over a country. No violence, no killing, just a slow overturn with a certain party in full control.
With the Abortion is a Right advocates and Abortion insurance starting up in colleges,……
Question…do illegals have as many abortions as legals in this country?

Electrongod on August 11, 2010 at 10:04 PM

What difference does the 14th make? Currently illegals are welcome by the elites in any case. Hell, even George Bush wanted to make them citizens.

keep the change on August 11, 2010 at 10:03 PM

Yeah, ain’t that the sad, stinking truth.

But at least if the offspring aren’t automatic citizens then it’s harder, though not impossible, to get welfare and there’s no sob story about deporting US citizens with their illegal parents.

mrsmwp on August 11, 2010 at 10:06 PM

With some conservatives broaching the possibility of a Constitutional amendment to modify the 14th Amendment to clarify birthright citizenship as requiring at least one parent to be either a citizen or a legal immigrant

Lindsey Graham? He is just trying to trick the fools. Since the Constitution took effect in 1789, there have been more than 11,000 attempts to amend it. And how many have been ratified in those 221 years? Only 27, and that’s counting the first 10, the Bill of Rights.

Tav on August 11, 2010 at 10:06 PM

And how many of those births were paid for by Tax Paying Americans?

wren on August 11, 2010 at 10:07 PM

Yep, come to the Lone Star State. We whites are quickly becoming a minority and the illegals are the biggest reason why.

Towash on August 11, 2010 at 10:07 PM

Is constitutional Con^&$tion a moderated word, now, too? It’s not like I said w@@kie or re^0lution. geez.

bitsy on August 11, 2010 at 10:04 PM

I’m not sure but I think that unless it says “Your comment is awaiting moderation” then it just got eaten. That has been happening to me on hotair for the last couple of days. They seem eventually show up but not all of them.

mrsmwp on August 11, 2010 at 10:08 PM

Even my somewhat liberal relatives in Seattle agree that illegal immigration must stop or it will collapse our country, and that children of illegals shouldn’t be given the rights of citizens. Did I mention these people live in Seattle? The dems (and illegals) should be worried.

LASue on August 11, 2010 at 10:08 PM

I was enrolling my son in Kindergarten today. I was the only parent there that spoke English. In fact, I was the only person there with an American drivers license. Thankfully I was just covering my bases in case the private school we’re looking into doesn’t work out, but it was really pretty shocking.

Vera on August 11, 2010 at 10:09 PM

What’s the law on Mexican citizenship for the children of illegal immigrants in Mexico? Canada?

Anybody out there know?

Bruno Strozek on August 11, 2010 at 10:09 PM

Undocumented immigrants make up slightly more than 4% of the U.S. adult population. However, their babies represented twice that share, or 8%, of all births on U.S. soil in 2008, according to the nonpartisan Pew Research Center’s report.

Of course they do, IT’S INTENTIONAL!

Go figure.

GarandFan on August 11, 2010 at 10:09 PM

This is how you take over a country. No violence, no killing, just a slow overturn with a certain party in full control.
With the Abortion is a Right advocates and Abortion insurance starting up in colleges,……
Question…do illegals have as many abortions as legals in this country?

Electrongod on August 11, 2010 at 10:04 PM

Just look at Europe and the Muslim populations through out, they are doing the same thing. Answer to your question, my guess, no they do not initially.

bluemarlin on August 11, 2010 at 10:12 PM

This is a future national security issue. You have women who come here just to give birth to their child, stay 4-6 weeks, return home, and never come back. Why would they do this? Why would you go to a country you have never been, have a baby, go back home, and never return to the US?

This is actually a much bigger problem than our neighbors to the south.

ramrants on August 11, 2010 at 10:14 PM

Can someone answer me :
Q
What is the average number of kids an illegal woman gives birth to, in US in her lifetime ?

Q
What is the average number of kids in an illegal ‘family’
( one or both parents illegal) ?

Q
What is the average number of kids in a US citizen / legal immigrant family ?

Q
How many illegals’ kids are on welfare / food stamps / disability / mediCal ?

Q
How many illegals’ kids procure tax “refunds” for their “parents” who file tax returns under (real or fake) TIN numbers ?

Until these questions are answered with the exact dollar amounts, we don’t even know how devastating the problem of illegals and their anchors is.

macncheez on August 11, 2010 at 10:15 PM

OK, my thoughts are, who is paying for these births? You know the illegals aren’t. It costs $7-11 thousand to give birth. That is around $3 Billion.

WoosterOh on August 11, 2010 at 10:17 PM

1 in 12? That is simply not true!

mjbrooks3 on August 11, 2010 at 10:17 PM

I was enrolling my son in Kindergarten today. I was the only parent there that spoke English. In fact, I was the only person there with an American drivers license. Thankfully I was just covering my bases in case the private school we’re looking into doesn’t work out, but it was really pretty shocking.

Vera on August 11, 2010 at 10:09 PM

The only way I can feel ok is if you tell me you live in Southern California –because I already know that is the case here. If you live in the midwest, I’ll be sick.

LASue on August 11, 2010 at 10:19 PM

8% of American births to illegals

Congratulations America. For being so “compassionate”, so “tolerant”, so “inclusive”. You win a cupie doll and economic desolation.

You did it for the children after all, because we all know that education, daycare, health care, housing, dental care, transportation, etc…etc at the expense of the American taxpayer is a universal “human right”.

I think we should start footing the bill for Canadian babies so we can be even “tolerant”, more “compassionate”, more “inclusive”.

DeathB4Tyranny on August 11, 2010 at 10:19 PM

Thankfully I was just covering my bases in case the private school we’re looking into doesn’t work out, but it was really pretty shocking.

Vera on August 11, 2010 at 10:09 PM

Isn’t it a shame that, in addition to paying your taxes to support your local school system, you have to pay for private school tuition?

You are effectively being taxed twice because the public school system is so bad.

Just think how many women are working in order to be able to afford the private school tuition, when if the public school systems were acceptable they would be able to stay home to raise their children.

Enforcing the laws against ILLEGAL immigration would be an excellent first step toward improving public schools.

Come on, Pelosi! Do it for the children!

wren on August 11, 2010 at 10:22 PM

If you live in the midwest, I’ll be sick.

Austin, TX.

Vera on August 11, 2010 at 10:22 PM

mjbrooks3 on August 11, 2010 at 10:17 PM

Is it more or less?

Cindy Munford on August 11, 2010 at 10:24 PM

Let’assume that the numbers are not much higher.
8% of all babies are born have illegal alien as parents.

How many other babies born have grandparents who are illegal aliens and only have a legal parent because that parent was also an anchor baby too and thus a citizen now….?

NeoKong on August 11, 2010 at 10:25 PM

Trust me Wren, that fact has not been lost on me.

Vera on August 11, 2010 at 10:26 PM

Politically, all this anti-immigrant thinking on the right is stupid. It would be better to embrace immigrants and pull them toward a side that believes in the true American dream of independence.

Morally, it is offensive.

Run for the hills! People want to come here to live and work!

AshleyTKing on August 11, 2010 at 10:27 PM

The idea of deporting their parents sounds OK (with their citizen children I assume), but in 18 years or less the kids will be back. Legally. With their Mexican spouse. And no need to learn English or assimilate.

Thus, the citizenship issue must be addressed as well.

GnuBreed on August 11, 2010 at 10:28 PM

How many illegals’ kids are on welfare / food stamps / disability / mediCal ?

macncheez on August 11, 2010 at 10:15 PM

OK, my thoughts are, who is paying for these births? You know the illegals aren’t. It costs $7-11 thousand to give birth. That is around $3 Billion.

WoosterOh on August 11, 2010 at 10:17 PM

These are questions that need to be answered and problems that need to be solved. And anyone that suggests the American taxpayer should suck it up in the name of American Values, owes the American Public an apology.

MeatHeadinCA on August 11, 2010 at 10:28 PM

Just great,at that rate,Canada is going to have to donate
a province,so America doesn’t get crammed!!(sarc).

canopfor on August 11, 2010 at 10:29 PM

I’m starting more and more to believe that a horrific global Depression would be a very good thing.

When you STILL see the lack of concern about illegal immigration, a desire to protect them and pay for them, then quite simply, the recession isn’t hurting enough.

I still want to see how tolerant Europe will be towards their Muslim invaders once more states go the Greece route, or get dragged there anyway.

Canadian Infidel on August 11, 2010 at 10:30 PM

Run for the hills! People want to come here to live and work!

AshleyTKing on August 11, 2010 at 10:27 PM

And break the law…

How about instead of coming in here on your high-horse, you suggest a solution. Perhaps a guest-worker program. Perhaps ending gov’t funding of illegals (welfare and such…)

You want to work within a socialist system and turn a blind eye to illegal migration… oh, my…

MeatHeadinCA on August 11, 2010 at 10:30 PM

It’s just so maddening when they rally and shove it down our throats.

bernzright777 on August 11, 2010 at 10:31 PM

Thank you Mr. Morrissey for that last paragraph. I’ve been thinking it for a week or longer, but just couldn’t put the words together.

Skandia Recluse on August 11, 2010 at 10:32 PM

Run for the hills! People want to come here to live and work!

AshleyTKing on August 11, 2010 at 10:27 PM

Red herring alert! Red herring alert!

SouthernGent on August 11, 2010 at 10:32 PM

Run for the hills! People want to come here to live and work!

Fine. Do it legally and learn our language.

Sorry if that sounds harsh, but when your actions start to impact my life, we have a problem. Just how exactly is my son supposed to learn anything when 99% of his classmates don’t even speak the same language as he does? I guess it’s my fault. I should have just taught him Spainish from the get go so he’d have a chance.

Vera on August 11, 2010 at 10:33 PM

It is called Reconquista. It is a slow process. It took the Christians 800 years to repopulate the Muslims out of the Iberian Peninsula. At the rate we are going, it won’t take that long.

Jocundus on August 11, 2010 at 10:34 PM

A case can be made that the clause could restrict birthright citizenship to only those legally in the country — and it would certainly be easier to float a test case with a deportation order than it would be to amend the Constitution. Why not let the courts have a crack at it first?

Bingo. This is an issue of first impression. The 1898 case had distinguishable facts. This is not a matter of societal or cultural change. It’s a matter of national security.

Why do we grant citizenship to people who someday may create a clear and present danger to us?

BuckeyeSam on August 11, 2010 at 10:35 PM

It’s a matter of national security.

BuckeyeSam on August 11, 2010 at 10:35 PM

And sovereignty… but alas, wanting orgs such as the UN OUT is somehow un-American.

MeatHeadinCA on August 11, 2010 at 10:36 PM

awww, man… where did my incredibly witty comment go?

bitsy on August 11, 2010 at 10:03 PM

bitsy: Always copy/paste your comment,as an insurance
policy,before submit!!:)

canopfor on August 11, 2010 at 10:36 PM

Hey,ahem,its more Liberal votes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

canopfor on August 11, 2010 at 10:36 PM

AshleyTKing on August 11, 2010 at 10:27 PM

Do it legally.

Cindy Munford on August 11, 2010 at 10:38 PM

Politically, all this anti-immigrant thinking on the right is stupid. It would be better to embrace immigrants and pull them toward a side that believes in the true American dream of independence.

Morally, it is offensive.

Run for the hills! People want to come here to live and work!

AshleyTKing on August 11, 2010 at 10:27 PM

You left out a very important word: illegal
What part of this word do you not understand?

kingsjester on August 11, 2010 at 10:40 PM

The GOP has betrayed you.

True_King on August 11, 2010 at 10:41 PM

You know, we have existing laws to cover all of this. It takes more time then they are willing to spend and they would rather pay a coyote then the fees. Find the reason that they don’t do it legally and improve on whatever the problems are there. Making more laws to ignore is just a waste of time and money.

Cindy Munford on August 11, 2010 at 10:41 PM

***

Morally, it is offensive.

***

AshleyTKing on August 11, 2010 at 10:27 PM

Adherence to the rule of law is morally offensive. Who knew?

Permitting illegal immigration is nothing more than arbitrary application of duly enacted laws. It’s time to dig in on this.

BuckeyeSam on August 11, 2010 at 10:42 PM

True_King on August 11, 2010 at 10:41 PM

No sh!t, Sherlock. Most of them would sell their mothers to get a vote.

Cindy Munford on August 11, 2010 at 10:43 PM

NeoKong on August 11, 2010 at 10:25 PM

Which is exactly why so many Hispanics are pro-illegal. Think how many are only legal because of the 1986 and subsequent amnesties. It would only be logical that those who benefitted from amnesty (and their offspring) would support another amnesty.

That is why there must NEVER BE ANOTHER AMNESTY!!!!!!!

mrsmwp on August 11, 2010 at 10:44 PM

Cindy Munford on August 11, 2010 at 10:41 PM

I’m not picking on you but I wondered where you live. Because, quite frankly, here in Dallas, I’m getting sick of all the immigrants, legal and illegal. The Mexicans have taken over. I too have registered my child for kindergarten and almost every piece of paper in the school is in Spanish. The kid’s schoolwork, etc. PTA and assemblies are twice as long because every freaking word has to be translated into Spanish. I am sick of it!

mrsmwp on August 11, 2010 at 10:48 PM

Politically, all this anti-immigrant thinking on the right is stupid

Morally, it is offensive.

Run for the hills! People want to come here to live and work!

AshleyTKing on August 11, 2010 at 10:27 PM

AshleyTKing: They are not coming through Ellis Island,yes
yes,I know its a tourist attraction,and thjey
are hoping your fence!!

I know the Left brain can’t handle logic,oh
here a nightmare scanario,like the European
black Death,and…yes..yes,I know,thats Nazi
talk and Brown Shirt tactics…yes..yes I
know all the sound-bites and talking points!!!
===========================================================

VAN FILLED WITH ILLEGAL ALIENS WITH CHICKEN
POX STOPPED BY SHERIFF’S DEPUTIES IN HUMAN
SMUGGLING OPERATION
——————–

(Phoenix, AZ) During a routine traffic stop, a van filled with human cargo was stopped by Sheriff’s
deputies a few hours ago in the area of 1-17 and Jomax Roads.

The eleven occupants inside that passenger vehicle have been arrested. They are all from Mexico.

And in the process of interrogation, deputies determined that up to four of them are quite ill.

One illegal immigrant is now confirmed as having chicken pox, and three others are suspected of
being infected.

All occupants have been exposed and may be carriers of the highly infectious air
born disease.
==============

http://www.mcso.org/include/pr_pdf/Chickenpox%20load%20vehicle%20Release.pdf

http://www.mcso.org/index.php?a=GetModule&mn=Special_Announce

canopfor on August 11, 2010 at 10:48 PM

The anchor babies have become a millstone.

Time to stop this criminal national suicide nonsense.

profitsbeard on August 11, 2010 at 10:53 PM

mrsmwp on August 11, 2010 at 10:48 PM

I’m in Florida. My statement was meant as a commentary on the ploy by politicians for “comprehensive immigration” policies. It’s total b.s. and it is a way to pander to the Hispanic vote. If you listen to the politicians our current illegal immigration problem is due to not enough laws instead of the lack of enforcement of existing laws.

Cindy Munford on August 11, 2010 at 10:53 PM

Why not let the courts have a crack at it first?

Because the courts have already had a crack at it, and interpreted it differently?

I don’t like leaving things like this up to the whims of 9 unelected people — something about “judicial activism” and all that. How about we make it clear what is meant. This would not necessarily require a Constitutional amendment; an act of Congress could well suffice. After Congress passes a clarifying bill, then see whether the courts would be willing to nullify their interpretation.

And if they do, then we amend the Constitution.

But we have a hard time finding a majority of Representatives or Senators willing to do the right thing, much less the 2/3 required for an amendment.

notropis on August 11, 2010 at 10:54 PM

The GOP has betrayed you.

True_King on August 11, 2010 at 10:41 PM

True_King: Ya…..okay…..sure….yup..

canopfor on August 11, 2010 at 10:56 PM

The GOP has betrayed you.

True_King on August 11, 2010 at 10:41 PM

The GOP doesn’t have the numbers to betray, or not betray, anybody. They’re onlookers.

RBMN on August 11, 2010 at 10:58 PM

Cindy Munford on August 11, 2010 at 10:53 PM

Yeah. Hispandering. Florida sure has a ton of Hispanics but alot of them are Cubans and Puerto Ricans which are all legal right? Puerto Ricans are US citizens and Cubans get defacto amnesty. I guess y’all are also getting alot of the illegal Mexicans, Hondurans, Guatamalans, too? I don’t mean to pick on Mexicans, etc but these people come from a corrupt, socialistic country and they bring their ideas and behaviors with them.

mrsmwp on August 11, 2010 at 11:03 PM

mrsmwp on August 11, 2010 at 11:03 PM

I’m in Northern Florida and oddly enough we seem to have a lot of Europeans working retail. We don’t seem to be overly inundated with folks from any specific area. My kids are grown but I would love to see a huge protest for all school systems. Massive homes schooling or something to get their attention. Easier said than done in today’s world.

Cindy Munford on August 11, 2010 at 11:11 PM

I’m in Florida. My statement was meant as a commentary on the ploy by politicians for “comprehensive immigration” policies. It’s total b.s. and it is a way to pander to the Hispanic vote. If you listen to the politicians our current illegal immigration problem is due to not enough laws instead of the lack of enforcement of existing laws.

Cindy Munford on August 11, 2010 at 10:53 PM

You guys just introduced your own version of AZ immigration law today, I thought. One with requirements to confirm legal status or not, yes?

bluemarlin on August 11, 2010 at 11:16 PM

Run for the hills! People want to come here to live and work!

AshleyTKing

Which, in the grand scheme of things, has nothing to do with the issue. What they want isn’t relevant. This is our country, not theirs. I want to sleep with Megan Fox, but I don’t get to do it just because I want to. Pro-illegal that you are though, I’m sure you’ll have no problem if an illegal moves into your house and takes your car. After all, he/she is just here to live and work.

And speaking of work…..the 10% plus actual unemployment rate says “hi”.

xblade on August 11, 2010 at 11:22 PM

PTA and assemblies are twice as long because every freaking word has to be translated into Spanish. I am sick of it!

mrsmwp on August 11, 2010 at 10:48 PM

mrsmwp: We had the same type problem,everything had to be
English and French,so our city manned up,and said
English only!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:)
======================================
Sault Ste. Marie language resolution

The Sault Ste. Marie language resolution was a government motion passed on January 29, 1990 by Sault Ste. Marie City Council, the governing body of the city of Sault Ste. Marie, Ontario, Canada, which resolved that English was the sole working language of city government. The resolution ignited a national controversy which made the city a flashpoint in the Meech Lake Accord debate.

The Sault Ste. Marie resolution was not the first of its kind in Ontario, but Sault Ste. Marie was the largest municipality to pass such a resolution and bore the brunt of the controversy.

Sault Ste. Marie was originally founded by French-speaking missionaries in 1623 but had become overwhelmingly English-speaking by the twentieth century.
====================================

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sault_Ste._Marie_language_resolution

canopfor on August 11, 2010 at 11:23 PM

bluemarlin on August 11, 2010 at 11:16 PM

Yes, but unfortunately I think it was done as a political stunt. Attorney General McCollum is running for governor and although he has always supported AZ decision he didn’t think the law was needed here. Until he started getting heat from his GOP opponent. I’m still going to vote for him but I think the timing is suspect.

Cindy Munford on August 11, 2010 at 11:25 PM

Run for the hills! People want to come here to live and work!

AshleyTKing on August 11, 2010 at 10:27 PM

Wow, you are the biggest idiot on Hot Air and that says a lot (MadCon, TRC, etc)

Towash on August 11, 2010 at 11:25 PM

And speaking of work…..the 10% plus actual unemployment rate says “hi”.

xblade on August 11, 2010 at 11:22 PM

Snort!!!!

Cindy Munford on August 11, 2010 at 11:26 PM

canopfor on August 11, 2010 at 11:23 PM

I won’t hold my breath! But I can dream! I feel bad for people who don’t know English, and I recognize that it is very difficult to learn a new language for older children and adults. But that being said, I have to do and believe what is right for my kids. And I just don’t believe becoming Mexico del Norte is going to be a great future for them.

mrsmwp on August 11, 2010 at 11:29 PM

Illegals breed like rats, and real Americans keep aborting their babies. The complete takeover is happening right before our eyes. I feel terrible that my two young sons have turmoil to look forward to for the rest of their lives.

ErinF on August 11, 2010 at 11:30 PM

Run for the hills! People want to come here to live and work!

AshleyTKing on August 11, 2010 at 10:27 PM

You’re an idiot. Let me correct you: People want to come here and live while WE work to support them.

Go back to Kos.

ErinF on August 11, 2010 at 11:31 PM

Vera,

If you saw a lady in a pink shirt fixing computers today *wave*

Sekhmet on August 11, 2010 at 11:32 PM

Unskilled labor suck more out then they ever contribute. It’s amazing how leftards, libertariantards, and rinos can’t do math.

Blake on August 11, 2010 at 11:33 PM

How many of those babies born in the USA were conceived outside the USA? Do the mothers have actual paying jobs in the USA, under-the-table or not? Are they married? Do the social workers know they are married?

I know sometimes (illegal) boy meets (illegal) girl, but how much more often is it the case that the woman comes here pregnant so she doesn’t have to work to support the child?

Sekhmet on August 11, 2010 at 11:36 PM

Hmmmm.

Republicans have until 2013 to fix the borders, enforce the laws and get this fixed.

After that I will routinely and automatically vote against the incumbent for *every* election regardless of party or affiliation.

Do the job or get out.

memomachine on August 11, 2010 at 11:41 PM

And I just don’t believe becoming Mexico del Norte is going to be a great future for them.

mrsmwp on August 11, 2010 at 11:29 PM

mrsmwp: Yup,I hear ya!!!:)

canopfor on August 11, 2010 at 11:47 PM

8% of American births to illegals?

Doing the labors that Americans do not want.

bayview on August 11, 2010 at 11:47 PM

Oh they would leave if the idiots in D.C . would get tough .
How is this ?
Entering the USA illegally amounts to TERRORISM and you could be held forever without trial …
Make a REAL LAW with TEETH and they will run, swim,walk,jump, any way they can get back across the border
Of course the real damage is that in 18 years they can all vote , and naturally they would be anti amnesty AND anti American….

ELMO Q on August 11, 2010 at 11:51 PM

..and it would certainly be easier to float a test case with a deportation order than it would be to amend the Constitution.

Could we start with Obama?

BacaDog on August 12, 2010 at 12:01 AM

Why not let the courts have a crack at it first?

Ha. Prop 8 in California comes to mind.

Oh. And when mommy and daddy get to stay here because they bore an American citizen, guess what? They get to invite on over their mommy and daddy and their brothers and sisters and their aunts and uncles and nephews and nieces and …. and ….

Might want to start multiplying that 11 (more like 20) mil already hear by about 50.

BowHuntingTexas on August 12, 2010 at 12:03 AM

“Subject to the jurisdiction thereof” sounds like it applies to people who belonged here in the first place. Illegal foreigners are not subject to the jurisdiction of the U.S. Foreign countries should be looking out for these people as their own wayward travelling nationals. They shouldn’t be here.

Since the left likes to rule by judicial action so often, we should give them a taste of their own medicine and try interpreting the Constitution correctly while we can. From what I understand, the 14th Amendment’s primary author stated it would not cover Illegal Immigrants. So why does it?

scotash on August 12, 2010 at 12:13 AM

Zero downside.

ernesto on August 12, 2010 at 12:20 AM

Zero downside.

ernesto on August 12, 2010 at 12:20 AM

Say what?

carbon_footprint on August 12, 2010 at 12:22 AM

carbon_footprint on August 12, 2010 at 12:22 AM

I thought you were a conservative. Don’t we need as many ardent catholics padding our birth rate as we can get? You know, to combat the muslim menace ravaging western civilization?

ernesto on August 12, 2010 at 12:26 AM

Question…do illegals have as many abortions as legals in this country?

Electrongod on August 11, 2010 at 10:04 PM

It is highly unlikely, given that the majority of illegals in this country hail from Mexico. According to the CIA’s The World Factbook, Mexico is 76.5% Roman Catholic. In my opinion they are, to their credit, very family-oriented people as well, in comparison to modern-day Americans as a whole.

hillbillyjim on August 12, 2010 at 12:26 AM

I thought you were a conservative. Don’t we need as many ardent catholics padding our birth rate as we can get? You know, to combat the muslim menace ravaging western civilization?

ernesto on August 12, 2010 at 12:26 AM

I am a conservative. I welcome all the immigrants to America as long as they are legal.

carbon_footprint on August 12, 2010 at 12:31 AM

carbon_footprint on August 12, 2010 at 12:31 AM

A distinction without a difference. If you’re not willing to take them as is, then you just wish to capitulate to the muslims. They’re winning, you know.

ernesto on August 12, 2010 at 12:34 AM

You know, to combat the muslim menace ravaging western civilization?

ernesto on August 12, 2010 at 12:26 AM

Also, that sentence sure reeks of Islamophobia.

carbon_footprint on August 12, 2010 at 12:35 AM

Don’t we need as many ardent catholics padding our birth rate as we can get?

Yah, that’s the world I want to live in – Colombia, Guatemala, Peru, Equador, et al. No thanks.

keep the change on August 12, 2010 at 12:35 AM

A distinction without a difference. If you’re not willing to take them as is, then you just wish to capitulate to the muslims. They’re winning, you know.

ernesto on August 12, 2010 at 12:34 AM

No, but the law of the land is king, Ernesto. I obey all laws, even those I disagree with.

carbon_footprint on August 12, 2010 at 12:36 AM

carbon_footprint on August 12, 2010 at 12:22 AM

I thought you were a conservative. Don’t we need as many ardent catholics padding our birth rate as we can get? You know, to combat the muslim menace ravaging western civilization?

ernesto on August 12, 2010 at 12:26 AM

Thanks for sharing, Mr. Ardent Victory Mosque Cheerleader.

hillbillyjim on August 12, 2010 at 12:38 AM

carbon_footprint on August 12, 2010 at 12:36 AM

With that attitude, you’ll be obeying sharia before you know it. Glad to see you’ve thrown your conservative credentials by the wayside in an attempt to placate islam. Dhimmi.

keep the change on August 12, 2010 at 12:35 AM

Keep your liberal capitulation to muslims to yourself. You know this country is at war with muslims, and they’re winning. Watch them build their victory monument at ground zero. Illegal hispanic babies can be our own way to influence “facts on the ground” in our favor.

ernesto on August 12, 2010 at 12:38 AM

Don’t we need as many ardent catholics padding our birth rate as we can get?ernesto on August 12, 2010 at 12:26 AM

You must be a theist-aphobe. Tell me, do you always generalize large groups of people?

You must be Hispanic. Let me guess; you probably have a Chevrolet Impala parked in your front yard?

Towash on August 12, 2010 at 12:41 AM

hillbillyjim on August 12, 2010 at 12:38 AM

You’re the only one cheering islamic victory here. How could you support turning down droves of ardent catholics? Islam is WINNING. You admit it yourself when you called it a victory mosque. If islam is winning, how can you support cutting our own capacity to fight it??

ernesto on August 12, 2010 at 12:41 AM

ernesto on August 12, 2010 at 12:41 AM

Hispanic huh? Tell me, how is it like to live in a two room apartment with 16 of your relatives?

Towash on August 12, 2010 at 12:47 AM

You’re the only one cheering islamic victory here. How could you support turning down droves of ardent catholics? Islam is WINNING. You admit it yourself when you called it a victory mosque. If islam is winning, how can you support cutting our own capacity to fight it??

ernesto on August 12, 2010 at 12:41 AM

Your flatulence doesn’t deserve a reply. Adios, liar.

hillbillyjim on August 12, 2010 at 12:48 AM

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