Ground Zero mosque spokesman to Gutfeld: Your gay bar won’t build dialogue because it doesn’t consider our sensibilities
posted at 4:32 pm on August 10, 2010 by Allahpundit
He’s got a point. Construction projects that fail to consider local cultural sensitivities aren’t very conducive to dialogue, are they?
You’re free to open whatever you like. If you won’t consider the sensibilities of Muslims, you’re not going to build dialog
That’s part of a running Twitter exchange — ongoing as I write this, replete with a perfunctory accusation of “hate speech” — between the Park51 group and Gutfeld. If you’re hungry for more, Gut will be on Beck’s show later to explore the deepening nuance regarding when it is and isn’t appropriate to care what your neighbors might think about your real estate ambitions. Meanwhile, although The One’s team continues to show admirable message discipline in quickly punting any Park51 questions tossed their way, there’s finally a break on the Democratic side: Lame duck New York Governor David Paterson is offering to help the property owners find new digs elsewhere if they’re willing to move. Why they’d be willing to do that now when they haven’t offered to do so already despite the opportunities for “dialogue” having imploded weeks ago, I have no idea. But it’s nice to see a politician trying to do something productive here instead of grandstanding.
Exit question: Has Frum solved the mystery behind this whole clusterfark? Dude, I think he has.









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Behind the Velvet Curtain
Oil Can on August 10, 2010 at 5:37 PM
I’d be happy to send a check for this. Also would like to know if it would be possible to open a dog breeding facility next door, or an animal shelter for rescued dogs. After all, there were a lot of rescue dogs either lost in the collapse or who have since died while trying to find survivors. It would be a fitting tribute and could open some more dialogue.
Kissmygrits on August 10, 2010 at 5:38 PM
..and the mandatory look for all vendors outside ‘piggly wiggly’
;-)
macncheez on August 10, 2010 at 5:39 PM
These people are so clueless.
We have an open society — it’s easy peasey to figure us out — but they still demonstrate a complete and utter lack of understanding for U.S. culture.
Y-not on August 10, 2010 at 5:41 PM
Add some coconut oil, and that is h.o.t., mac.
HornetSting on August 10, 2010 at 5:41 PM
The mosque is a maybe. It doesn’t have funding. It doesn’t have a building permit. It may be a sham for the developers to try and get someone to buy them out.
If they start construction as proposed, it won’t be completed until 2015.
Gutfeld could open his bar in currently available space within 6 months (Ok 9 months, it is New York) and operate it for years before he mosque MIGHT be finished.
barnone on August 10, 2010 at 5:46 PM
Finally you got some attention!
DarkCurrent on August 10, 2010 at 5:46 PM
I’m going to start recording Red Eye every night just to show support. We all should. I watch when I can but now I’m a true fan. Even if I dont watch the numbers will show based on DVR hits.
UncleZeb on August 10, 2010 at 5:47 PM
I think they understand us quite well. That’s how they’ve gotten away with so much up to this point, and continually demand even more concessions in the name of tolerance and diversity. I just hope what Gutfield is doing is the start of a trend.
Laura Curtis on August 10, 2010 at 5:51 PM
Heh.
ladyingray on August 10, 2010 at 5:52 PM
very interesting
Consolidated Edison Company of New York, Inc. (Con Edison) [NYSE:ED] unveiled a massive new substation complex in the Bronx as part of the company’s overall building program to help meet the energy needs of 9 million New Yorkers.
So Con Edison no longer has 9 million New Yorkers requiring energy?
Did Obama Green Power influence Con Edison to give up business there?
At least David Frum had the courtesy to thank Isabel Vincent and Melissa Klein in the New York Post for the information.
I’m not so sure about Frum’s optimism that there is no possible Islamic funding. Islamic grassroots, if no group of Jihadists, would cough up for the mosque. It would simply be too convenient for terrorists to have free play in America after building that mosque. And the American politicians promoting it have all been paid off to play PC nice with Muslim sensitivities. After all, they’re the only ones that matter.
Is NYC property value around ground zero hopeless?
Where are those businesses that worked from within the World Trade Center Twin Towers now operating? No longer in NYC? No longer existing?
maverick muse on August 10, 2010 at 5:54 PM
Broke Back Mecca
Oil Can on August 10, 2010 at 5:54 PM
Gutfeld is on Beck now floating names:
Turban Cowboys
Suspicious Packages
Sorry, I didn’t catch any others.
BuckeyeSam on August 10, 2010 at 5:56 PM
Kissmygrits on August 10, 2010 at 5:38 PM
Brilliant!
maverick muse on August 10, 2010 at 5:56 PM
When you have so many other countries meeting their expectations why would they not think that the US will be sensitive?
CWforFreedom on August 10, 2010 at 5:56 PM
Grind zero
You mecca me hot
( IIRC)
macncheez on August 10, 2010 at 5:57 PM
And also, it really isn’t a “bar” because he won’t be selling alcohol.
It will be just a flavored tea house.
He was just on Beck and said they would be serving 72 Virgin drinks.
barnone on August 10, 2010 at 5:58 PM
What exactly goes into a 72 Virgin drink?
HornetSting on August 10, 2010 at 6:00 PM
You won’t want to be anywhere near there on Dollar Goat Night.
Bugler on August 10, 2010 at 6:00 PM
Ha. I like Suspicious Packages.
I’d make NYC a vacation destination for that one!
ORconservative on August 10, 2010 at 6:01 PM
Hehehe
Those arms those arms
those awsome awsome arms
( now who do they remind me of ??? hmmmm)
macncheez on August 10, 2010 at 6:02 PM
I about died at “You Mecca Me Hot”. I think Glenn lost it a little, too.
Marcus on August 10, 2010 at 6:02 PM
Making me eSPAIN that one?
HornetSting on August 10, 2010 at 6:03 PM
No, no… on Beck he said he’ll serve 72 Virgin drinks (I’m assuming that’s alcohol free drinks???)
MeatHeadinCA on August 10, 2010 at 6:05 PM
That one was pretty funny.
MeatHeadinCA on August 10, 2010 at 6:06 PM
I don’t know, but it makes you feel like you were in a suicide blast the day before.
Oil Can on August 10, 2010 at 6:07 PM
Exactly.
Though they take bribes, politicians do not make effective points either for public discussion to achieve a positive end.
WE direct the dialogue by demanding their attention. Elections are approaching.
maverick muse on August 10, 2010 at 6:07 PM
..and the mandatory look for all vendors outside ‘piggly wiggly’
;-)
macncheez on August 10, 2010 at 5:39 PM
macncheez: Ahem,thats a h*lluva strutt!!:)
canopfor on August 10, 2010 at 6:08 PM
Ooooohhh, 72 Virgin Drinks…..Shirley Temple, with a cherry.
*snicker*
HornetSting on August 10, 2010 at 6:08 PM
Heh… I wonder if there will be a virgin car bomb…
MeatHeadinCA on August 10, 2010 at 6:09 PM
Upinak wins. Good luck contacting Gutfeld with the suggestion.
maverick muse on August 10, 2010 at 6:09 PM
A Shirley Temple would be racist. They should just call it a Shirley Sherrod.
MeatHeadinCA on August 10, 2010 at 6:10 PM
It’s a flesh wound.
HornetSting on August 10, 2010 at 6:10 PM
If David “Palin sends sexual signals to her fans” Frum has solved this case, Mayor self-made billionaire Bloomberg is not only NYC’s Nanny 911, he is the mother of all patsies, and that’s why I wouldn’t bet on David Frum. And certainly the idea that this was all a bait and switch scam to coax out a deep-pocketed über-Gutfeld assigns way too much savvy to a couple of developer clowns.
Seth Halpern on August 10, 2010 at 6:10 PM
masculine arabic names
http://www.sudairy.com/arabic/masc.html
canopfor on August 10, 2010 at 6:16 PM
Bin Laden`s Booty Bar.
ThePrez on August 10, 2010 at 6:17 PM
Going to have to be alcohol free bar/
NY State Liq. Auth. will not give a licence to any place within 200 feet of a house of worship – been that way since 1933.
I think this whole thing is a sham – like the guys who puffed up companies in the dot com boom who only wanted to sell them and count their money, not run a business. Find a riled up buyer, who will overpay to keep this mosque out, sell it to him and run.
Wander on August 10, 2010 at 6:19 PM
Uncle Fatimah’s?
MeatHeadinCA on August 10, 2010 at 6:19 PM
Abdul-Wadud/Adan/Anwar-NightClub
Servant of the Loving/(Garden of) Eden/Radiant, full of light Night Club!!!!!!!!!!!!
canopfor on August 10, 2010 at 6:20 PM
An important reminder for PC white liberal bleeding hearts who prattle on about “tolerance”:
Mr. RogersMayor Bloomberg’s Neighborhood.Buy Danish on August 10, 2010 at 6:20 PM
WADhidi’s
HornetSting on August 10, 2010 at 6:22 PM
I still like the Pork Place Bar, since it would be built on PARK Place.
Want to see the community board vote “no”! Tell them you want to bring a Wal-Mart to the same block.
Wander on August 10, 2010 at 6:23 PM
The Pink Burqa
kingsjester on August 10, 2010 at 6:23 PM
The spear of Allah
Oil Can on August 10, 2010 at 6:24 PM
Smoke Pole House.
HornetSting on August 10, 2010 at 6:24 PM
Recipe for a Surely Charade :
1 oz blackberry juice
1 oz watermelon juice
1 oz peach nectar
4 oz sour grape juice
4 oz red koolaid
Shake with lots of ice
Pour it in a tall glass
splash of kefir lime on top
Sip for 15 minutes
When the glass is empty, smash it on the wall and call the bartender –racist
macncheez on August 10, 2010 at 6:25 PM
I just have to say that I love Greg Gutfeld. That is all.
Vera on August 10, 2010 at 6:25 PM
fabUlishus
MeatHeadinCA on August 10, 2010 at 6:26 PM
Oh, that’s a great recipe. I might have to keep that one in mind!
MeatHeadinCA on August 10, 2010 at 6:27 PM
Smoked Pork Palace
MeatHeadinCA on August 10, 2010 at 6:28 PM
The “religion” that by far and away shows the least in the way of sensibilities to others not just wants, but expects, the most in the way of sensibilities to be shown to it. Absolutely astounding. The only thing more astounding is that any non-muslim would put up with it. Islam is an obscene blot on all life and a foul scourge that should perish from the Earth.
Tav on August 10, 2010 at 6:28 PM
House of Preyers?
MeatHeadinCA on August 10, 2010 at 6:28 PM
Arabian Nights.
HornetSting on August 10, 2010 at 6:32 PM
I miss Aleph to give the Islamic side of things.
Tav on August 10, 2010 at 6:32 PM
Make sure you throw in some sesame oil lube
MeatHeadinCA on August 10, 2010 at 6:32 PM
Do you think there will be a floor for camel oil massages?
HornetSting on August 10, 2010 at 6:35 PM
Frum couldn’t find his arse fro a hole in the ground unless it was by blind chance.
Tav on August 10, 2010 at 6:35 PM
Go to Google Images and search “gay muslim”
I liked this image…
MeatHeadinCA on August 10, 2010 at 6:39 PM
camel milk mmm mmm mmm
MeatHeadinCA on August 10, 2010 at 6:40 PM
MY EYES!!!!!!
HornetSting on August 10, 2010 at 6:40 PM
The Camel’s Hump?
Oil Can on August 10, 2010 at 6:41 PM
An important reminder for PC white liberal bleeding hearts who prattle on about “tolerance”:
Mr. Rogers Mayor Bloomberg’s Neighborhood.
Buy Danish on August 10, 2010 at 6:20 PM
Buy Danish: There is no dialogue with these Leftys,zero
common ground,no point in even talking,sad!
-:)
canopfor on August 10, 2010 at 6:41 PM
MeatHeadinCA on August 10, 2010 at 6:28 PM
Arabian Nights.
HornetSting on August 10, 2010 at 6:32 PM
HornetSting:Me likey!!:)
canopfor on August 10, 2010 at 6:43 PM
Right and right. I wish the WH had this attitude instead of running to the courts. Why is it the WH gets so much wrong?
jeanie on August 10, 2010 at 6:43 PM
Their dialog includes jetliners filled with victims, suicide bombers, and beheadings. And, the spineless among us will bend over and allow them to ‘mark our territory’.
HornetSting on August 10, 2010 at 6:44 PM
Go to Google Images and search “gay muslim”
I liked this image…
MeatHeadinCA on August 10, 2010 at 6:39 PM
MeatHeadinCA:Ugh,it looks like Pooh bear!!:)
canopfor on August 10, 2010 at 6:44 PM
More like Poo Bear.
Bleh.
HornetSting on August 10, 2010 at 6:47 PM
canopfor on August 10, 2010 at 6:41 PM
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Their dialog includes jetliners filled with victims, suicide bombers, and beheadings. And, the spineless among us will bend over and allow them to ‘mark our territory’.
HornetSting on August 10, 2010 at 6:44 PM
HornetSting: Right you are,and this crap comes out of
Bloomberg’s neighbourhood,its no wonder he
doesn’t have a problem building the Mosque!
-:)
canopfor on August 10, 2010 at 6:47 PM
canopfor on August 10, 2010 at 6:44 PM
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More like Poo Bear.
Bleh.
HornetSting on August 10, 2010 at 6:47 PM
HornetSting: Haha,thats what I was shoot’n for,oops!!:)
canopfor on August 10, 2010 at 6:48 PM
What about ‘My Pet Goat’ as the name of teh ghey bar?
Has a nice 9/11 ring to for liberals everywhere, and would fit in nicely with the clientel?
lukespapa on August 10, 2010 at 6:50 PM
Inside the Velvet Goat…
HornetSting on August 10, 2010 at 6:54 PM
The Sunni Pink Triangle
The Talibone
Goats! Goats! Goats!
TGIFatwas
AaronGuzman on August 10, 2010 at 6:55 PM
Aisha’s Retreat
Bugler on August 10, 2010 at 6:57 PM
It doesn’t matter what it’s called as long as they have a Jewish accountant keeping the books.
AaronGuzman on August 10, 2010 at 7:01 PM
Gaydar Islam.
Maquis on August 10, 2010 at 7:06 PM
Both. The ones that stayed already found digs years ago, after all, it happened 9 years ago.
NYC commercial real estate is generally in a slump, I dont think downtown is worse than any other part of town. But there’s lots of office space going begging all over.
YehuditTX on August 10, 2010 at 7:08 PM
That’s apparently a prime piece of NY property. Doubt if they’d have much trouble selling it to someone with a more appropiate idea for its use.
jeanie on August 10, 2010 at 7:11 PM
Offend THEIR sensibilities?!
Would these be the same sensibilities that caused the hijackers to fly into the World Trade Towers?
Just asking…
Khun Joe on August 10, 2010 at 7:14 PM
I would propose an all-pork menu.
They can call in “Sausage Fest”!
holdfast on August 10, 2010 at 7:14 PM
This is one of the funniest threads I have ever read on Hot Air. You guys are hilarious, ever think of writing comedy for someone? That being said, there was a wonderful moderate Muslin woman from Canada on O’Reilly last night, she actually had BOR speechless with her words of wisdom. Basically she said that the Koran teaches that any act which causes pain to another is unacceptable, and that this mosque is a deliberate attempt at provocation. Wonderful moment for me, I was speechless as well, we need more moderate Muslins to speak out, right now their silence is deafening.
oldoldbabs on August 10, 2010 at 7:14 PM
The Dome of the Cock. Tossed Saladin.
Improvised Ejaculate Devices.
andycanuck on August 10, 2010 at 7:16 PM
What real Amurrican gives a rat’s left gonad about offending the sensibilities of the 7th Century Islamo-NAZI barbarians?
I think offending the camel-washers should be the new national sport.
Let them build there monument to barbarity in Saudi Arabia where it belongs.
Seriously, has Western Society become too f’ing stoopid to survive?
Dave R. on August 10, 2010 at 8:11 PM
Americans to Ground Zero mosque spokesman: Your mosque won’t build dialogue because it doesn’t consider our sensitivities.
listens2glenn on August 10, 2010 at 8:35 PM
Lazy, more than stupid.
This is half the reason we ended up with Obama as President.
The other half being, Republicans blew it.
listens2glenn on August 10, 2010 at 8:41 PM
Why does he assume we want dialogue?
Fighton03 on August 10, 2010 at 9:27 PM
Arabian Knights
Come cross your sword with the best the east has to offer
Koa on August 10, 2010 at 9:28 PM
As far as Muslims are concerned, the only sensibilities that matter is theirs. Why? They are Muslim and our superiors, doncherknow?!!?!
SilentWatcher on August 10, 2010 at 9:29 PM
Gut should be able to get a license to sell alcohol cuz there’s no mosque there. All that’s there is half ownership of a building and Con Ed. No court in the land would uphold the denial of a license based on what might be. Unless the judge is a liberal loon, of course.
SilentWatcher on August 10, 2010 at 9:38 PM
I think ‘Al Jizzera’ is a great idea.
leftnomore on August 10, 2010 at 11:06 PM
Sounds familiar.
http://www.floppingaces.net/2010/08/10/muslim-victim-of-9-11-says-build-the-mosque-elsewhere-reader-post/#comment-290589
And I do agree.
drjohn on August 11, 2010 at 7:21 AM
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