Rasmussen: 9% of Americans believe in the Pete Stark model of federalism

posted at 12:55 pm on August 6, 2010 by Ed Morrissey

Before we get to Rasmussen’s latest survey on American attitudes on federal government, let’s recall the immortal words of Rep. Pete Stark (D-CA), who said that the federal government could do pretty much whatever it wanted:

At a July 24 Town Hall meeting, Democratic Congressman Pete Stark of California may have inadvertently articulated the Political Class view. In responding to questions about whether or not the recently passed health care law is unconstitutional, Stark said, “I think that there are very few constitutional limits that would prevent the federal government from rules that could affect your private life.” In response to a follow-up, he added, “The federal government, yes, can do most anything in this country.”

Do Americans agree that Washington DC has unlimited power? Not exactly:

Eighty-six percent (86%) of voters nationwide say there should be “limits on what the federal government can do.” A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that only nine percent (9%) believe the federal government should be allowed to do most anything in this country.

These views are overwhelming shared across virtually all partisan and demographic lines.

There is one group in the US that agrees with Rep. Stark, however:

The only exception is America’s Political Class. By a 54% to 43% margin, the Political Class believes the federal government should be allowed to do most anything. Mainstream voters reject that view by a 94% to three percent (3%) margin.

I discussed the definition of “political class” in this post, but suffice it to say, this is really the definitional question for the label.  The bigger question from this result is why 43% of the political class disagreed with Stark’s idea of constitutional government.  If anything, it shows Stark as even more extreme than ever before.

Apart from the political class, it’s rather remarkable to see just how isolated Stark is on his declaration.  Only 17% of Democrats agree with his statement, and the same percentage of voters under 30 years of age; 21% of liberals agree, and it does best with African-American voters as a demographic at … 25%.

The survey has other interesting nuggets related to the central question.  The individual mandate in ObamaCare still has a double-digit deficit, with voters supporting it only 43/54.  A plurality of 46% supports their state suing to end the mandate, with only 37% opposed to the idea.  The idea of a referendum on the question has slightly less support at 42/36, perhaps because some states don’t have a mechanism for referenda.  Two thirds of respondents oppose the expansion of Medicaid without federal funding to pay for the cost, a position that wins support from a plurality of Democrats as well (49/26).

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9% of Americans need to move to North Korea.

petefrt on August 6, 2010 at 12:58 PM

Is the water tainted or something? Did the Chinese drop a mind-altering bio weapon on us?

Bishop on August 6, 2010 at 12:59 PM

Sure, 9% of “American’s”, but they don’t matter—what are the numbers in the ruling class? That’s what matters.

FloatingRock on August 6, 2010 at 12:59 PM

Stark differences!

Schadenfreude on August 6, 2010 at 1:00 PM

Rush Limbaugh is absolutely wiping the floor with the Democrats and Obama!

Dire Straits on August 6, 2010 at 1:00 PM

Eighty-six percent (86%) of voters nationwide say there should be “limits on what the federal government can do.”

As Rush mentioned, we already have limits on what the federal government can do. It is called the Constitution.

carbon_footprint on August 6, 2010 at 1:02 PM

Videos of Stark need to be played early and often into this election cycle.

This guy is an insane and rude nut job like so many politicians but worse.

CWforFreedom on August 6, 2010 at 1:03 PM

Stark and his liberal brethren are all for the government doing want it wants AS LONG AS THEY ARE THAT GOVERNMENT. Nuance.

GarandFan on August 6, 2010 at 1:03 PM

What percent of the population works for the federal government?

UnderstandingisPower on August 6, 2010 at 1:03 PM

Eighty-six percent (86%) of voters nationwide say there should be “limits on what the federal government can do.”

And 14% of voters are complete idiots.

Vera on August 6, 2010 at 1:06 PM

I live in Starky’s district and for months there have been signs and petitions everywhere to “Defeat Pete “Dignified Urine” Stark”. Never have seen that much movement against him in my years of living here. Hope that momentum keeps up through November. Most people you talk to around here can’t stand the guy.

BakerAllie on August 6, 2010 at 1:06 PM

Anyone who wants to be amazed search vids of Stark on youtube. What a piece of work.

CWforFreedom on August 6, 2010 at 1:06 PM

Understanding is Power

About 2 million people work for the federal government.

Hmmm think that does not tilt the polls a bit?

CWforFreedom on August 6, 2010 at 1:08 PM

Anyone heard of the Battle of Athens?

MadisonConservative on August 6, 2010 at 12:58 PM

Wow.

amerpundit on August 6, 2010 at 1:13 PM

BakerAllie on August 6, 2010 at 1:06 PM

Keep up the good work..we are pulling for you! :)

Dire Straits on August 6, 2010 at 1:13 PM

It is not Pete Stark Raving Looney-Tune that scares me as much as knowing that 9% of people asked think it is perfectly A-OK for government to be in everything under the sun, including their own private lives.

These are most likely the same type of wonked-out folk who dream of the nightmare world of “1984″ becoming a reality.

pilamaye on August 6, 2010 at 1:14 PM

86% of americans need to wake up then. Cuz the 9% have the reigns.

lorien1973 on August 6, 2010 at 1:14 PM

As Rush mentioned, we already have limits on what the federal government can do. It is called the Constitution.

carbon_footprint on August 6, 2010 at 1:02 PM

+1..Good point! :)

PS.. He is on a roll today!

Dire Straits on August 6, 2010 at 1:15 PM

Related: Area Man Disappointed in Antiques Roadshow Appraisal of Nation’s Founding Document

Mervis Winter on August 6, 2010 at 1:09 PM

Hehe. At least it’s still worth 7-15 times more than Newsreek.

forest on August 6, 2010 at 1:16 PM

Anyone heard of the Battle of Athens?

MadisonConservative on August 6, 2010 at 12:58 PM

Yeah, my mother is from Athens and her parents lived through that. What’s your point?

rockmom on August 6, 2010 at 1:16 PM

Eighty-six percent (86%) of voters nationwide say there should be “limits on what the federal government can do.”

There are limits on what the federal government can do. It’s all addressed in the Constitution if anyone cares to check. Now, if we only could get our ruling class of legislators and judges to recognize such.

SukieTawdry on August 6, 2010 at 1:17 PM

Yeah, my mother is from Athens and her parents lived through that. What’s your point?

rockmom on August 6, 2010 at 1:16 PM

Take a guess

CWforFreedom on August 6, 2010 at 1:17 PM

Heads will roll.

Take that figuratively or literally. Either way, I’m right.

madmonkphotog on August 6, 2010 at 1:18 PM

BakerAllie on August 6, 2010 at 1:06 PM

Who is running against Stark? I’d love to see this degenerate out of office.

forest on August 6, 2010 at 1:18 PM

There are limits on what the federal government can do. It’s all addressed in the Constitution if anyone cares to check. Now, if we only could get our ruling class of legislators and judges to recognize such.

SukieTawdry on August 6, 2010 at 1:17 PM

Heh. They do not even read the laws they pass.

CWforFreedom on August 6, 2010 at 1:18 PM

9%.

Percentage of the population who think Fred and Wilma should gotten divorced.

Percentage of the population who think “Capricorn 1″ is a documentary.

BobMbx on August 6, 2010 at 1:19 PM

Stark is truly a new strain of stupid.

blatantblue on August 6, 2010 at 1:19 PM

Democrats don’t care about what the people think. That’s why we’re in the shape we’re in.

jdawg on August 6, 2010 at 1:19 PM

Yeah, my mother is from Athens and her parents lived through that. What’s your point?

rockmom on August 6, 2010 at 1:16 PM

I just enjoy American history.

MadisonConservative on August 6, 2010 at 1:23 PM

As a practical matter, Stark is right. The Federal government CAN do pretty much whatever it wants. The only real restraint on that power is the self-restraint of Congress, and the occasional slap-on-the-hand ruling from SCOTUS.

Note that a majority of State governments oppose ObamaCare, but Congress passed it. That’s because the 17th Amendment took away the only serious counterbalance to unlimited Federal power.

The Monster on August 6, 2010 at 1:24 PM

The 9% unfortunately controls about 90% of the power.

angryed on August 6, 2010 at 1:25 PM

There is hope for this country. Remember 9% of the population would go on the Broken Glass Diet if Oprah Winfrey touted it on her show. So if that 9% is all you can get behind you, I would say your ideas were toast.

Lily on August 6, 2010 at 1:25 PM

I just enjoy American history.

MadisonConservative on August 6, 2010 at 1:23 PM

OK. ;-)

rockmom on August 6, 2010 at 1:27 PM

5% undecided, never heard of the US Constitution.

Eighty-six percent (86%) of voters nationwide say there should be “limits on what the federal government can do.” A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that only nine percent (9%) believe the federal government should be allowed to do most anything in this country.

maverick muse on August 6, 2010 at 1:28 PM

9% of the American population strongly support inflating one’s scrotum.

carbon_footprint on August 6, 2010 at 1:28 PM

I can’t believe someone who has such open disdain for his constituents can still get elected. I’m sure a lot of elected officials look down on the little people who elect them, but to be so blatant about it is amazing to me.

He is the perfect face of the ruling class. I hope the GOP use his quotes and videos early and often. The country should see this smug turd and know he is an Obama democrat.

Ampersand on August 6, 2010 at 1:29 PM

Is the water tainted or something? Did the Chinese drop a mind-altering bio weapon on us?

Bishop on August 6, 2010 at 12:59 PM

Funny you should say that. Yesterday, Bill Hemmer did an interview with an Islamic man, who once apon a time belonged to the radical groups. I didn’t see the interview from beginning to end, so I can’t remember his name or what his affiliations used to be. However, he has since reformed, and gave insight. Basically he said, it was easier to manipulate smart people. I found that striking, but then again, not all that surprising.

I know a lot of college, and ivy league educated people. Smart? You betcha. But they don’t have an ounce of common sense. They fall for just about anything. So it’s no longer shocking to me why they are pandering over this mosque, and making these lame excuses for tolerance, and such. They’re being lured in. The bad part is…when they fully succumb to such seductions….how much danger are we in for, that we don’t even realize?

capejasmine on August 6, 2010 at 1:30 PM

At least half the population has a below average IQ so I’d say only 9% is pretty stellar.

ncborn on August 6, 2010 at 1:31 PM

Anyone heard of the Battle of Athens?

MadisonConservative on August 6, 2010 at 12:58 PM

The national version of this is approaching….

CC

CapedConservative on August 6, 2010 at 1:31 PM

I just enjoy American history.

MadisonConservative on August 6, 2010 at 1:23 PM

Then you should check this out..The Free State of Jones.

Dire Straits on August 6, 2010 at 1:36 PM

1:31

National scale Battle of Athens Tennessee would illustrate exactly why the first publicized DHS Memo from Janet Nincompoopano targets conservatives and veterans for persecution and prosecution based upon whole cloth evidence.

maverick muse on August 6, 2010 at 1:36 PM

I live in Starky’s district and for months there have been signs and petitions everywhere to “Defeat Pete “Dignified Urine” Stark”. Never have seen that much movement against him in my years of living here. Hope that momentum keeps up through November. Most people you talk to around here can’t stand the guy.

If what you say is true, then how on earth can it be possible that the people of his district keep electing a pathetic jerk like Stark?

Eichendorff on August 6, 2010 at 1:42 PM


it does best with African-American voters as a demographic at … 25%.

Wow … the Great Society sure is … great.

Tony737 on August 6, 2010 at 1:42 PM

Dire Straits @ 1:36

The Free State of Jones congregating place of Confederate deserters in a town of loyal Confederates — restructured after the Civil War by reconstructionists…

Hm, makes sense that Confederate deserters would go home to protect the farm.

maverick muse on August 6, 2010 at 1:46 PM

Hey Hot Air tweeps please follow @Forest4Congress. Forest Baker is the Republican candidate running against Fortney “Pete” Stark in CA13. Forest has an MBA from The Wharton School at Univ of PA. Pete Stark graduated magnu cum laude from the School of Insanity.

bobnox on August 6, 2010 at 1:49 PM

There are limits on what the federal government can do. It’s all addressed in the Constitution if anyone cares to check. Now, if we only could get our ruling class of legislators and judges to recognize such.

SukieTawdry on August 6, 2010 at 1:17 PM

Heh. They do not even read the laws they pass.

CWforFreedom on August 6, 2010 at 1:18 PM

Congress doesn’t even WRITE the bills they don’t read before voting and then sending the law to Obama to sign and ENFORCE.

Congress needs to stop passing new laws.

maverick muse on August 6, 2010 at 1:50 PM

9% of the American population strongly support inflating one’s scrotum.

carbon_footprint on August 6, 2010 at 1:28 PM

Some images are just “seared” into memory. Birth of a child, the car crash, being in Cambodia on Christmas day, and some old guy with a mohawk sporting a scrotum the size of a volleyball.

Zombie. Thanks a bunch.

BobMbx on August 6, 2010 at 1:50 PM

All of the 9% live in Stark’s district.

PrettyD_Vicious on August 6, 2010 at 1:52 PM

As Rush mentioned, we already have limits on what the federal government can do. It is called the Constitution.

carbon_footprint on August 6, 2010 at 1:02 PM

Huh? What’s that?

hawksruleva on August 6, 2010 at 1:55 PM

9% of Americans think Martin Sheen was one of our top ten presidents of all time.

slickwillie2001 on August 6, 2010 at 1:57 PM

Congress needs to stop passing new laws.

maverick muse on August 6, 2010 at 1:50 PM

Job one for the GOP. Start proposing bills that require ridiculously simple things. Like reading bills. Like requiring a budget (not even a balanced budget, just a frickin’ BUDGET). A bill that phases in term limits as incumbents are defeated. Maybe a bill to reform the earmark process, requiring earmarks to be directly related to the main bill.

If the Dems want to object to these sorts of simple, commonsense measures, let’s get them on record.

hawksruleva on August 6, 2010 at 1:58 PM

bobnox on August 6, 2010 at 1:49 PM

hey….I should sue you for name stealing. Intellectual property and all…..

BobMbx on August 6, 2010 at 2:01 PM

Job one for the GOP. Start proposing bills that require ridiculously simple things. Like reading bills. Like requiring a budget (not even a balanced budget, just a frickin’ BUDGET). A bill that phases in term limits as incumbents are defeated. Maybe a bill to reform the earmark process, requiring earmarks to be directly related to the main bill.

hawksruleva on August 6, 2010 at 1:58 PM

No, no, no! We need the smartest people in the country in Congress so that we can have laws that help us in our everyday functioning, like, well, why are there no federal laws that detail the tensile strength requirements of cling-wrap? Does anyone realize the damage done as a result of the failure of Congress to act?

Elect me! and I’ll submit legislation that provides comprehensive cling-wrap reform!

BobMbx on August 6, 2010 at 2:05 PM

“Only”? That’s pretty freaking high.

Ortzinator on August 6, 2010 at 2:16 PM

The problem is the difference between ‘can’ and ‘should’.

As the commerce clause is currently interpreted, as our government currently sees its role, CAN they do just about anything? Yes.

SHOULD that be the case? Hell no.

JEM on August 6, 2010 at 2:18 PM

In the modern welfare state, government has the power to regulate your life. That’s bad enough. But at least there is one restraint on this bloated power: the separation of powers. Such constraints on your life must first be approved by both houses of Congress.

That’s called the consent of the governed. The constitutional order is meant to subject you to the will of the people’s representatives, not to the whim of a chief executive or the imagination of a loophole-seeking bureaucrat.

Schadenfreude on August 6, 2010 at 2:28 PM

A bit of legal history for you:

The Tenth Amendment: “ The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. ”

From United States v. Darby, 312 U.S. 100, 124 (1941):

The amendment states but a truism that all is retained which has not been surrendered. There is nothing in the history of its adoption to suggest that it was more than declaratory of the relationship between the national and state governments as it had been established by the Constitution before the amendment or that its purpose was other than to allay fears that the new national government might seek to exercise powers not granted, and that the states might not be able to exercise fully their reserved powers…..

So, apart from the Tenth Amendment, where are the restrictions in the US Constitution on what the Federal Government can do?

Jimbo3 on August 6, 2010 at 3:12 PM

So, apart from the Tenth Amendment, where are the restrictions in the US Constitution on what the Federal Government can do?

Jimbo3 on August 6, 2010 at 3:12 PM

In the Second Amendment.

sharrukin on August 6, 2010 at 3:15 PM

So, apart from the Tenth Amendment, where are the restrictions in the US Constitution on what the Federal Government can do?

Jimbo3 on August 6, 2010 at 3:12 PM
In the Second Amendment.

sharrukin on August 6, 2010 at 3:15 PM

You’re right on that. But does Rush or any of you see anything else within the US Constitution that limits state rights (other than the 10th amendment).

Jimbo3 on August 6, 2010 at 3:25 PM

In other words, those 9%-ers are known as FACISTS.

locomotivebreath1901 on August 6, 2010 at 3:54 PM

In other words, those 9%-ers are known as FACISTS.

Or DOOFUSITS. Petey Stark=prime example!

chickasaw42 on August 6, 2010 at 4:50 PM

Jimbo3 on August 6, 2010 at 3:12 PM

As written or as twisted?

lorien1973 on August 6, 2010 at 5:03 PM

Shorter Jimbo:

Except for the part of the Constitution where the limits of government are clearly established, where else is the power of government limited? Huh? Huh? No where. That means it’s unlimited.

BobMbx on August 6, 2010 at 5:21 PM

But Ed, they didn’t just poll Stark’s district. The people there, who elect this guy all the time, probably believe just the opposite.

Let’s face it, the people of California deserve the representation they get.

bflat879 on August 6, 2010 at 6:38 PM

I live in Starky’s district and for months there have been signs and petitions everywhere to “Defeat Pete “Dignified Urine” Stark”. Never have seen that much movement against him in my years of living here. Hope that momentum keeps up through November. Most people you talk to around here can’t stand the guy.

If what you say is true, then how on earth can it be possible that the people of his district keep electing a pathetic jerk like Stark?

Eichendorff on August 6, 2010 at 1:42 PM

I think a lot has changed in this last election cycle. A lot of the dems in this area were so knee-jerk anti-Bush that he got the vote. And a lot of the GOP voters were of the lazy thinking that their vote either did not really count here or they were not too happy with Bush themselves. We have plenty of crazies out here, believe me. But the current economic situation and President Obama’s disappointment have sparked a lot of noise locally, more than I’ve seen in 8 years from both sides of the aisle.
People are a lot less likely to tolerate a jerk like Stark when they have been laid off and the dems keep wanting to tax us into oblivion.

BakerAllie on August 6, 2010 at 7:35 PM

Anyone heard of the Battle of Athens?

MadisonConservative on August 6, 2010 at 12:58 PM

*jawdrop*

Dark-Star on August 6, 2010 at 8:11 PM

FloatingRock on August 6, 2010 at 12:59 PM
Sure, 9% of “American’s”, but they don’t matter—what are the numbers in the ruling class? That’s what matters.

Floating Rock – that 9% was the ruling class.

MSGTAS on August 7, 2010 at 1:13 PM