Dean: ObamaCare mandate won’t survive
posted at 2:20 pm on August 6, 2010 by Ed Morrissey
Come for the tapdance on ObamaCare, stick around for Howard Dean’s fantasy predictions in the Senate races this November. The clip picks up with Howard Dean discussing the meaning of the Missouri vote that had 71% of the electorate registering their opposition to the ObamaCare mandate to buy health insurance. Not to worry, Dean says, because the mandate was never going to survive anyway — and he notes offhandedly that it’s almost certainly unconstitutional:
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Who benefits from the mandate? Well, Dean’s right that insurers do, but without the mandate and with the federal requirement to issue health insurance to all comers, the risk pools will get very expensive indeed. Health insurers operate on a thin margin as is (traditionally between 2-6%), and adding higher risk without balancing it out with healthier subscribers means higher costs. Either insurers will have to hike rates or offer fewer services — and if the government blocks them from either or both options through further coverage mandates and price controls, they’ll simply go out of business.
That’s the reason why the mandate is key to the bill’s survival. Without it, Congress has to go back to square one.
The Senate predictions sound like a milder replay of the Dean Scream from January 2004. There certainly is an antincumbent mood, but it’s most definitely not bipartisan in its targets. Poll after poll shows voters getting angry at the Democratic agenda and at Democratic malfeasance, and while one or two Republican seats might get lost, the overall results from the midterms will be a significant pickup of seats — and not a Republican net loss of “four or five.”









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Wrong. After the mandate is ruled unconstitutional, everyone will know at that point there are only 2 options.
1. Dismantle Obamacare. (Which will never happen because by the time this works it’s way through the system, there will be thousands {if not millions} of Americans dependent upon the programs.)
2. Institute an across the board hike in taxes much like social security or medicare taxes. In other words, institute a single-payer system.
We are headed for a single payer system no matter what because of this monstrosity of a law. No one will take away what has already been given. And it has to be paid for, so forcing a new tax on everyone is the only way to do it.
ButterflyDragon on August 7, 2010 at 12:49 AM
What kind of drivel is that?
Why is everyone try to equate insurance to some vast complicated machination?? There are contracts that cross state lines every day of the week without much hand wringing. It’s called automobile insurance.
But let’s call insurance what it really is. It’s legalized gambling. Period. Nothing more. Nothing less.
Health insurance is the only type that the government rails against because they got into the gambling business and have found out they suck at it. Their ventures into it via Medicare has proven to be a failure with good intentions. One part gambling with one part Ponzi scheme and it all goes to hell.
ButterflyDragon on August 7, 2010 at 1:02 AM
That’s Himbo3 Drivel™–a HA exclusive brand.
Accept no substitutes.
Love this!
You’re probably right.
Why can’t we go back to paying the doctor’s bill after we see him or her?
Like the good old days.
Jenfidel on August 7, 2010 at 2:28 AM
If the mandate is unconstitutional and the insurers elect to go out of business then the government must step in to take up the slack, right? I think this is a planned Alinsky “disaster” in the bill.
{^_^}
herself on August 7, 2010 at 4:15 AM
To be totally honest, yes it is.
So is the stock market.
Neither of those institutions are going away.
Because in ‘the good old days’ (I’m assuming you mean the pioneer era or earlier), medicine was downright primitive compared to modern treatments.
CAT scans and X-rays and ultrasounds, childhood vaccinations so your kids don’t die before they hit puberty, standards of sanitation that are still unknown in much of the world, these and many other technologies cost a whole stinking lot of money from start to finish. Some medicines and treatments keep alive people that, should they suddenly be unavailable, would die or suffer immensely for the rest of their shortened lives.
To put it quite simply, paying out of your own pocket for every medical expense is a shaky prospect. Especially when (not if) an accident or sudden disease strikes. So unless you want us all to go back to the days of herbs and ‘home remedies’, or look to the state to pay for everything major…
Dark-Star on August 7, 2010 at 4:43 AM
Dean’s going to challenge Obama in ’12.
B Man on August 7, 2010 at 4:52 AM
Howard Dean only proved that he lies and distorts as much as Soetoro the Storyteller.
Ricohoc on August 7, 2010 at 4:53 AM
Because we’re not raising enough chickens to give to good ol’ Doc Smith to take home in his buggy after he gives Johnny some home-brewed elixir for his whopping cough??
Rod on August 7, 2010 at 9:35 AM
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!
Ass. Clown.
JeffinOrlando on August 7, 2010 at 10:06 AM
By golly Dr. Dean is back facing reality of the impact this Legislation will have on his private practice, and he don’t like it a tol.
MSGTAS on August 7, 2010 at 12:58 PM
Wrong. After the mandate is ruled unconstitutional, everyone will know at that point there are only 2 options.
ButterflyDragon on August 7, 2010 at 12:49 AM
Wrong again – because of the way that Obamacare was (not) written, if one part of it is determined to be unconstitutional, THE WHOLE THING automatically becomes unconstitutional. Apparently, the wording that is usually added to bills to prevent this from happening was left out or the healthcare bill (it may have something to do with the fact that it is “technically” a budget bill).
That’s why it is so vitally important that JUST ONE PIECE of Obamacare be found unconstitutional. If that happens, the whole thing goes away.
TeresainFortWorth on August 7, 2010 at 3:59 PM
txmom had asked why companies now can’t sell policies interstate.
And it’s not legalized gambling: Insurance is an atempt to prevent losses. You can’t insure your house for $100,000 and get $500,000 if it burns down. That’s unlike regular gambling, where you can make a profit.
Jimbo3 on August 7, 2010 at 5:00 PM
Dean’s credibility is shot full of holes and as a prognosticator and he does not think that objectively.
MSGTAS on August 8, 2010 at 10:53 AM
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